| Lua Lua on 09:54 - Aug 11 with 1935 views | francisbowles |
| Lua Lua on 19:45 - Aug 10 by DylanP |
Yes we are. We didn't used to be, but now we are. Furlong, Ned, Manning, Freeman, Wszolek, Shadipo, Washington, are all either fast or have quick feet. We used to be a team that lumbered along, but we have added speed all over the field over the last two years. |
I think Manning is a very good player with a great left foot but quick he isn't, which may partly explain why he couldn't break into the first team as a winger. |  | |  |
| Lua Lua on 10:09 - Aug 11 with 1900 views | francisbowles |
I think Shodipo is a young lad who shows ability and potential. His few and mainly brief appearances in our first team were mixed with good things and mistakes. Nothing that you wouldn't expect from player trying to break through.
It was felt by the club and I agree, that he is not ready to challenge for a regular place, needs to learn the game at a higher level than u23 and therefore he should have a spell on loan. Unfortunately, it didn't go well due to injury.
We are told he is still injured. So what has changed since January? He needs to recover and hopefully be ready to go on loan again.
Lua Lua, if he can stay fit, will add some much needed experience, pace and ability to the left side or even up front. There are a lot of games between now and January. We need options in every position. He may even add some goals. | | | |
| Lua Lua on 10:15 - Aug 11 with 1880 views | RBlock |
| Lua Lua on 09:47 - Aug 11 by RANGERS4EVER |
A total amount of £0 spending this season. Manning coming through well, as is Furlon. Eze and Chair both looking promising. One loan signing of a decent player probably not on much and people jump on Hoos straight away for 'spending instead of giving the youth a chance'.
Think the only thing mental here is you |
I mean people aren't really jumping on Hoos are they? Maybe one person mentioned him, in the context of trying to tighten spending rather than blaming him. I imagine Hoos has absolutely nothing to with making a pathway for youth players or bringing in new signings, other than allocating a budget. People can question the logic of a signing without it becoming a witch hunt. Reckon you might have slightly jumped the gun here. [Post edited 11 Aug 2017 10:16]
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| Lua Lua on 10:25 - Aug 11 with 1854 views | RANGERS4EVER |
| Lua Lua on 10:15 - Aug 11 by RBlock |
I mean people aren't really jumping on Hoos are they? Maybe one person mentioned him, in the context of trying to tighten spending rather than blaming him. I imagine Hoos has absolutely nothing to with making a pathway for youth players or bringing in new signings, other than allocating a budget. People can question the logic of a signing without it becoming a witch hunt. Reckon you might have slightly jumped the gun here. [Post edited 11 Aug 2017 10:16]
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It is still a signing I think is needed. Even with Shodipo, who is apparently injured, with only have Wszolek at RW, No harm done in a loan |  |
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| Lua Lua on 10:29 - Aug 11 with 1848 views | rsonist |
Yeah I think LuaLua will be covering Mackie, Washington, Freeman more than just being a pure left wing option (and certainly not a wing-back, obviously).
Nail in the coffin of Yeni you'd imagine. Wouldn't be surprised if we shifted him and Sylla along at cost if we can find buyers before the window closes. |  | | |
| Lua Lua on 10:30 - Aug 11 with 1845 views | Dorse |
| Lua Lua on 10:15 - Aug 11 by RBlock |
I mean people aren't really jumping on Hoos are they? Maybe one person mentioned him, in the context of trying to tighten spending rather than blaming him. I imagine Hoos has absolutely nothing to with making a pathway for youth players or bringing in new signings, other than allocating a budget. People can question the logic of a signing without it becoming a witch hunt. Reckon you might have slightly jumped the gun here. [Post edited 11 Aug 2017 10:16]
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I think the club has done some smart business in this window. Scowen looks to be a good fit for the team; Phillips in the U23s seems to have something about him too. Baptiste looks to be a solid option and we've needed one for some time.
I didn't really know what to make of Lua Lua last season but the management obviously feel he has something and, let's face it, we can always send him back. Freeman, Goss and Smith signed at the same time and I think we've come out on top with those three: Freeman is my first pick every time, Goss looks a prospect (surprisingly at CB - who knew?) and Smith is a known quantity who can duff up oppo CBs when needed.
For what it's worth, I think Hoos and the Axis of Evil have come into the season with a game plan and it appears to be working. They've addressed two of the major flaws of previous years: another First Team CB option and the lack of movement in the middle. We'd all like another striker but with Chair and Eze ('Eze good, Eze good, he's Ebere Eze good') coming through, not bringing in another striker might be a gamble worth taking. |  |
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| Lua Lua on 10:33 - Aug 11 with 1840 views | ichbinnaughty |
| Lua Lua on 10:29 - Aug 11 by rsonist |
Yeah I think LuaLua will be covering Mackie, Washington, Freeman more than just being a pure left wing option (and certainly not a wing-back, obviously).
Nail in the coffin of Yeni you'd imagine. Wouldn't be surprised if we shifted him and Sylla along at cost if we can find buyers before the window closes. |
I hope we don't shift those two on.
I feel they could both have a bright season.
And they're "ours".
Not enamoured with the signing of Lua Lua.
We've got plenty of options in midfield; we;ve got some youth that warrant a go; and I'd rather we appropriated the spend (wages) elsewhere = a striker or a centre-half being the obvious areas. |  | | |
| Lua Lua on 10:43 - Aug 11 with 1808 views | Antti_Heinola |
Don't like to be negative, but this signing is as much a waste of time as it was last season. Go on Kazenga do it, step over, go down the outside, put in a cross for no one. Thanks. Great job. One trick pony, usually injured. |  |
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| Lua Lua on 10:43 - Aug 11 with 1808 views | toboboly |
It's not even like he is very good, even when he played last season he was just a larger version of Yeni. |  |
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| Lua Lua on 10:44 - Aug 11 with 1801 views | Antti_Heinola |
Don't like to be negative, but this signing is as much a waste of time as it was last season. Go on Kazenga do it, step over, go down the outside, put in a cross for no one. Thanks. Great job. One trick pony, usually injured.
As for jamie, after Kane failed to pull up trees at a lower level, assume he wrote him off too. Genius. | |
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| Lua Lua on 11:47 - Aug 11 with 1721 views | kensalriser |
| Lua Lua on 10:29 - Aug 11 by rsonist |
Yeah I think LuaLua will be covering Mackie, Washington, Freeman more than just being a pure left wing option (and certainly not a wing-back, obviously).
Nail in the coffin of Yeni you'd imagine. Wouldn't be surprised if we shifted him and Sylla along at cost if we can find buyers before the window closes. |
Olly was singing Yeni's praises after the Stan game, saying that's the type of character I want in this team. |  |
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| Lua Lua on 11:54 - Aug 11 with 1708 views | rsonist |
| Lua Lua on 10:33 - Aug 11 by ichbinnaughty |
I hope we don't shift those two on.
I feel they could both have a bright season.
And they're "ours".
Not enamoured with the signing of Lua Lua.
We've got plenty of options in midfield; we;ve got some youth that warrant a go; and I'd rather we appropriated the spend (wages) elsewhere = a striker or a centre-half being the obvious areas. |
I agree that they're capable footballers, exactly the sort we should be developing to sell on, but Ollie's set his stall out now and it doesn't seem as though anyone at the club is co-ordinating strategy above him any more. (Even his own trusted scouts don't seem to have much to say so far).
Claw back the £3m we paid for them and maybe Ollie can use the money to print PASHUN or BANTER on the side of a bus or something. | | | |
| Lua Lua on 11:58 - Aug 11 with 1694 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Let loose, I can see him ripping the other 23 clubs a second a-hole. Nailed on for the Championship Team of the Season, which we'll probably have seven or eight in.
Unless he injures himself of course! |  |
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| Lua Lua on 12:11 - Aug 11 with 1646 views | aston_hoop |
He's back
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| Lua Lua on 12:25 - Aug 11 with 1595 views | daveB |
| Lua Lua on 10:33 - Aug 11 by ichbinnaughty |
I hope we don't shift those two on.
I feel they could both have a bright season.
And they're "ours".
Not enamoured with the signing of Lua Lua.
We've got plenty of options in midfield; we;ve got some youth that warrant a go; and I'd rather we appropriated the spend (wages) elsewhere = a striker or a centre-half being the obvious areas. |
We signed a centre half the other day.
I thought this summer we needed to sign a centre half, holding midfielder, left winger and a forward, 3 out of 4 so far so I'm happy. |  | | |
| Lua Lua on 12:57 - Aug 11 with 1527 views | Dando |
Personally really happy about this signing. If hes kept injury free, hes the sort of player who can cause problems for sides and brings some unpredictability | | | |
| Lua Lua on 12:57 - Aug 11 with 1523 views | simmo |
| Lua Lua on 19:04 - Aug 10 by Jamie |
Whilst LuaLua is far from an inspiring signing, it's still a million miles above playing Shodipo who had a chance and was shown to be way below the required standard.
When Port Vale plummeting to relegation send you back and still pay your wages rather than play you, it's time to think of a new career. |
He's twice the player Petrasso is. |  |
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| Lua Lua on 13:14 - Aug 11 with 1473 views | FDC |
| Lua Lua on 11:47 - Aug 11 by kensalriser |
Olly was singing Yeni's praises after the Stan game, saying that's the type of character I want in this team. |
Certainly talks a good game, going from his interview on Loftcast |  | | |
| Lua Lua on 13:23 - Aug 11 with 1446 views | TacticalR |
| Lua Lua on 13:14 - Aug 11 by FDC |
Certainly talks a good game, going from his interview on Loftcast |
Yeni? He was so well coached about the importance of the team over the individual that there was an almost North Korean/Trump Whitehouse Press Secretary quality to his answers. |  |
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| Lua Lua on 13:45 - Aug 11 with 1403 views | ichbinnaughty |
To justify his loan, he needs to influence multiple games and contribute goals and assists.
If he does that then fair play to him.
Otherwise, it's money that could have been spent elsewhere.
Centre back wise, I still think Baptiste is merely a back up to cover injuries (which we did need to sign) and I still don't see Caulker being relied upon to (i) stay, (ii) play regularly, and (iii) consistently play to his ability (for us) = so in my mind we need to sign a centre back that has the capabilities and gravitas to do what Caulker would/should. | | | |
| Lua Lua on 13:46 - Aug 11 with 1394 views | Jamie |
| Lua Lua on 12:57 - Aug 11 by simmo |
He's twice the player Petrasso is. |
Quite possibly. Although club management wildly disagree.
Would be amazed if Shodipo manages anything other than emulating mike doughty - numerous lower league loans before a permanent move to that level. | | | |
| Lua Lua on 14:03 - Aug 11 with 1360 views | eghamranger |
Think there are some harsh comments on here about him. I only saw him a few times last season, but when he came on as sub, he caused other teams all sorts of problems and actually looked our biggest goal threat. He can't help being a sick note, yeni and cilla are out for tomorrow's games so hopefully he will play some part |  | | |
| Lua Lua on 14:04 - Aug 11 with 1360 views | Hunterhoop |
| Lua Lua on 13:23 - Aug 11 by TacticalR |
Yeni? He was so well coached about the importance of the team over the individual that there was an almost North Korean/Trump Whitehouse Press Secretary quality to his answers. |
Haha. Excellent. Sadly I still don't think anyone has explained what Yeni's specific role in the team actually is. He always plays like he's not sure what he's meant to be doing or where to do it....although I'm sure he cares a lot about doing whatever "it" is. |  | | |
| Lua Lua on 14:23 - Aug 11 with 1320 views | nadera78 |
| Lua Lua on 14:03 - Aug 11 by eghamranger |
Think there are some harsh comments on here about him. I only saw him a few times last season, but when he came on as sub, he caused other teams all sorts of problems and actually looked our biggest goal threat. He can't help being a sick note, yeni and cilla are out for tomorrow's games so hopefully he will play some part |
"he can't help being a sick note"
He can help it, but he doesn't want to. He's clearly one of those players who feels a slight twinge and immediately wants to walk off the pitch. He's never going to change, it's who he is. Guaranteed he won't play a dozen games before his loan expires. Absolute waste of everybody's time. | | | |
| Lua Lua on 14:24 - Aug 11 with 1320 views | Hunterhoop |
| Lua Lua on 13:46 - Aug 11 by Jamie |
Quite possibly. Although club management wildly disagree.
Would be amazed if Shodipo manages anything other than emulating mike doughty - numerous lower league loans before a permanent move to that level. |
Is it possible to rate both players? I think both have potential to be good Championship players.
Petrasso has not had a fair crack at the whip in his preferred position for us, but has played well on the international stage and in the reserves.
Shodipo, has already shown he is good enough for the Championship. He was one of the best players on the pitch in the opening 3-0 win vs Leeds. He changed the game in the away win at Fulham. He started quite a few games, which we competed in well and he certainly wasn't being carried in them. If Gladwin is League 1 level, Shodipo must be at least that good if not better now! And he will improve.
Holloway has always had his favourites, and an obsession with working hard, and positional awareness. He's always favoured experience over youth too. It's no surprise Shodipo isn't his bag. But that doesn't mean he's no good or not worth persevering with. | | | |
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