| Championship South and North 21:11 - May 18 with 1911 views | Gloucs_R |
Following on from the possible merger of L2 and Conference...
The Championship would be a really competitive League and also help out a lot of smaller clubs.
South could look like...
Birmingham City
Brentford
Bristol City
Cardiff City
Charlton Athletic
Fulham
Luton Town
Millwall
Queens Park Rangers
Reading
Swansea City
West Bromwich Albion
AFC Wimbledon
Bristol Rovers
Coventry City
Gillingham
Ipswich Town
Milton Keynes Dons
Oxford United
Peterborough United
Portsmouth
Southend United
Wycombe Wanderers
Shrewsbury
Some really good, local, days out there...
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| Championship South and North on 23:49 - May 18 with 1760 views | PeterHucker |
As a QPR fan now living in the north can I just say I think this is dreadful idea. |  | | |
| Championship South and North on 00:03 - May 19 with 1743 views | stowmarketrange |
| Championship South and North on 23:49 - May 18 by PeterHucker |
As a QPR fan now living in the north can I just say I think this is dreadful idea. |
I agree with you mate.No more weekends in Newcastle or similar places.And we’d get to travel to the same grounds year after year.Not for me thanks.
And I was looking forward to using my over 60’s railcard to get some bargains from next season too. |  | | |
| Championship South and North on 07:18 - May 19 with 1656 views | Gloucs_R |
| Championship South and North on 23:49 - May 18 by PeterHucker |
As a QPR fan now living in the north can I just say I think this is dreadful idea. |
I sympathize but less traveling for the majority would be good for attendances, finances, the environment and potentially peopled health. | |
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| Championship South and North on 07:43 - May 19 with 1635 views | Newhopphoops |
How about an "apertura" half season up to Christmas, playing every southern team once. Then the "chiusura" with the top half north and south playing each other once each for a place in the playoffs, and the rest playing each other once to avoid relegation (as now).
That way the romantics still get their January Tuesday nights up north. |  | | |
| Championship South and North on 08:45 - May 19 with 1563 views | daveB |
i think it would make sense in league 1 and 2 but less so in the championship. |  | | |
| Championship South and North on 09:33 - May 19 with 1505 views | Northernr |
Fairly significant fall in quality compared to the league we're in now. |  | | |
| Championship South and North on 09:51 - May 19 with 1458 views | slmrstid |
I've mentioned it on here on a separate thread recently, but I do think the idea of this country having 5 national football leagues before you get to regional level is pretty bonkers, given the size of the country as a whole and its comparison to other, much larger countires (Germany has 3, France 3, Spain 2, Italy 2 etc...) and the size of the clubs in the 4th/5th tiers and the amount of money they must spend on travel each year.
To go immediately regional below the Premiership wouldn't be appropriate, and would also in my opinion lead to the league becoming a bit stale. If you retained the 3 up/3 down approach one of the regional Championship leagues would only have 1 team going up in a year, which is quite disincentivising to everyone else.
I think there is a very good argument for the country being regionalised below League One (so 4th tier onwards) but to do it from the 2nd tier down would be counter-productive. |  | | |
| Championship South and North on 10:07 - May 19 with 1427 views | BrianMcCarthy |
It would be a huge disadvantage to us to stop playing the trick Northern away games we traditionally struggle with. We need to keep playing them so as to challenge ourselves. If we stopped, then we'd get blown away if we had to then play them once we got promoted.
Northern travel must be a fairly insignificant cost for clubs when compared to wages and transfers. I don't see the problem. |  |
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| Championship South and North on 10:27 - May 19 with 1386 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Championship South and North on 10:07 - May 19 by BrianMcCarthy |
It would be a huge disadvantage to us to stop playing the trick Northern away games we traditionally struggle with. We need to keep playing them so as to challenge ourselves. If we stopped, then we'd get blown away if we had to then play them once we got promoted.
Northern travel must be a fairly insignificant cost for clubs when compared to wages and transfers. I don't see the problem. |
Are we worse away up north? Feels like we’re worse in London if anything and just generally when there’s a decent, expectant following. |  | | |
| Championship South and North on 10:46 - May 19 with 1369 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Championship South and North on 10:27 - May 19 by Watford_Ranger |
Are we worse away up north? Feels like we’re worse in London if anything and just generally when there’s a decent, expectant following. |
Fair point, maybe I'm thinking of my days following us up North when we were usually lightweight!
Still, I think we need to play at the highest level and experience all types of challenges. | |
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| Championship South and North on 13:04 - May 19 with 1243 views | Gloucs_R |
| Championship South and North on 09:33 - May 19 by Northernr |
Fairly significant fall in quality compared to the league we're in now. |
Of course, as you have a load of League 1 clubs there...
Which could work in our favour.
Champions go up
Second place play off with Northern team
Anyway, the idea was that it fixes some short term problems.
I think we'll send up seeing regional leagues and aPrem 1 and 2 at some stage [Post edited 19 May 2020 13:05]
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| Championship South and North on 14:22 - May 19 with 1168 views | terryb |
| Championship South and North on 13:04 - May 19 by Gloucs_R |
Of course, as you have a load of League 1 clubs there...
Which could work in our favour.
Champions go up
Second place play off with Northern team
Anyway, the idea was that it fixes some short term problems.
I think we'll send up seeing regional leagues and aPrem 1 and 2 at some stage [Post edited 19 May 2020 13:05]
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We will see. It has always been the clubs that didn't want regionalisation to return & I don'r see that it would have a great effect on finances.
It would still take Colchester longer to travel to Plymouth than to reach Scotland! | | | |
| Championship South and North on 14:59 - May 19 with 1141 views | DavieQPR |
This is like the old 3rd Division South and 3rd Division South. Only the top in each division were promoted and some teams yo yoed between depending on who got relegated. With the improvement regards travel it was no longer deemed necessary and the clubs did not want it. |  | | |
| Championship South and North on 15:35 - May 19 with 1112 views | CamberleyR |
| Championship South and North on 14:59 - May 19 by DavieQPR |
This is like the old 3rd Division South and 3rd Division South. Only the top in each division were promoted and some teams yo yoed between depending on who got relegated. With the improvement regards travel it was no longer deemed necessary and the clubs did not want it. |
Only the champions going up from Div 3 North & South was one of the reasons along with the better road links emerging in the late 50s/60s that they were scrapped.
Back then you had to feel for teams that slogged all season for 46 games knowing that only the champions went up, nothing at all for 2nd. In 1956/57 Torquay missed out on the Div 3 South title on goal average to Alf Ramsey's Ipswich. A season later after finishing 21st they were going to be playing in the first season of Division 4 and have never got anywhere near to the second level again.
Five seasons later Ipswich went on to win the 1st division which led to Alf Ramsey getting the England job. How different English football history may have been. |  |
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| Championship South and North on 18:45 - May 19 with 1055 views | TGRRRSSS |
NO not for me, it won't work really and I think people would get bpred rather quickly constantly playing the likes of Wycombe and Luton etc.
Not bad looking at ideas but I don't see the value of this for anyone.
I can't see the TV or Sponsors going for it either somehow.
Conference North and South kind of work where you get crows often of no more than a thousand. |  | | |
| Championship South and North on 19:21 - May 19 with 1025 views | Northernr |
| Championship South and North on 13:04 - May 19 by Gloucs_R |
Of course, as you have a load of League 1 clubs there...
Which could work in our favour.
Champions go up
Second place play off with Northern team
Anyway, the idea was that it fixes some short term problems.
I think we'll send up seeing regional leagues and aPrem 1 and 2 at some stage [Post edited 19 May 2020 13:05]
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I hope not, if only because PL1 and PL2 would quickly mean no relegation and promotion from PL2 to whatever was below. No shock that it was always Bolton and Phil Gartside pushing that hardest, because he knew the club were in it up to their tits if they ever did get relegated - as has transpired. | | | |
| Championship South and North on 20:29 - May 19 with 980 views | enfieldargh |
| Championship South and North on 13:04 - May 19 by Gloucs_R |
Of course, as you have a load of League 1 clubs there...
Which could work in our favour.
Champions go up
Second place play off with Northern team
Anyway, the idea was that it fixes some short term problems.
I think we'll send up seeing regional leagues and aPrem 1 and 2 at some stage [Post edited 19 May 2020 13:05]
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yes a play off with Northern's team is defo right |  |
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| Championship South and North on 22:40 - May 19 with 939 views | switchingcode |
Some really good local days out Where ?apart from what we already have | | | |
| Championship South and North on 22:54 - May 19 with 916 views | LythamR |
I think its an appalling idea, it immediately brands the division as regional instead of national and would reduce the respect and reputation of the championship in both national and international TV audiences along with subsequent revenues |  | | |
| Championship South and North on 23:49 - May 19 with 889 views | stowmarketrange |
| Championship South and North on 15:35 - May 19 by CamberleyR |
Only the champions going up from Div 3 North & South was one of the reasons along with the better road links emerging in the late 50s/60s that they were scrapped.
Back then you had to feel for teams that slogged all season for 46 games knowing that only the champions went up, nothing at all for 2nd. In 1956/57 Torquay missed out on the Div 3 South title on goal average to Alf Ramsey's Ipswich. A season later after finishing 21st they were going to be playing in the first season of Division 4 and have never got anywhere near to the second level again.
Five seasons later Ipswich went on to win the 1st division which led to Alf Ramsey getting the England job. How different English football history may have been. |
It also ensured that we never got relegated to the 4th division of league football despite finishing bottom of the league on a few occasions.Unlike our middx and Fulham friends. | | | |
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