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My wife and I went to Le Manoir as a special treat and the home made bread rolls were incredible. I could've just pigged out on those then gone straight to dessert, they were lush.
Re sliced bread, try the Aldi ancient grains loaf, that is excellent.
I think hotdogs should go on the overrated list. Unless you douse them in ketchup and mustard, they are pretty dull. I'd eat them in a survival situation, of course
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My wife and I went to Le Manoir as a special treat and the home made bread rolls were incredible. I could've just pigged out on those then gone straight to dessert, they were lush.
Re sliced bread, try the Aldi ancient grains loaf, that is excellent.
I think hotdogs should go on the overrated list. Unless you douse them in ketchup and mustard, they are pretty dull. I'd eat them in a survival situation, of course
The only negative side-effect I can think of a diet of German bread is ending up with a jaw like David Coulthard’s.
Another vote for poutine. To be fair, Mrs PH a Québécois did strongly advise against it and didn’t order for herself. Just rubbish and affront to potatoes!
However, the title of the thread is overrated and I’m going to say…French food. Sone of it is of course sublime. But so much is predictable and too many French chefs; cooking and dishes are conservative; restaurant menus are repetitive; and stuck in time as much as they are hemmed in by thinking that says, we’ll Escoffier made it this way, so must we.
British food/cooking would out run then in many cases and frankly, I’ve had better choices and food out of many pubs than some French restaurants. The French have been resting on their laurels for too long, something Roux Jr. admits as well - which is ironic to say - but he does think mindsets are changing to be fair.
This is all the more frustrating because oftentimes, French ingredients are superb. They just keep cooking it the same way.
Oh and one passing attack: grits…awfully bland!
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I got one of the daily recipes off Eurosport's Tour de France coverage last Friday. It called for 'Pain aux Céréales'.
I went to the 'Artisan Bread Counter' in my local Dunnes Stores. Calling it 'Artisan' allows them to charge twice the price but you still get served by the two grumpy oul wans from DinnerLadies.
"YA???" (This means 'Hello, how can I help you?") "Hi, have you "Pain aux Céréales, please?" "WHA???" "Pain aux Cér...." "WHA'S THA, LIKE?" "It's French, I think" "BUH WHA ISIH, LIKE" "Well, I was hoping you'd know" "NEVAH HEARD OF IH" "I think it means "Cereal Bread" "SHU ALL BREAH HAS CEREAL IN IH!!!"
Another vote for poutine. To be fair, Mrs PH a Québécois did strongly advise against it and didn’t order for herself. Just rubbish and affront to potatoes!
However, the title of the thread is overrated and I’m going to say…French food. Sone of it is of course sublime. But so much is predictable and too many French chefs; cooking and dishes are conservative; restaurant menus are repetitive; and stuck in time as much as they are hemmed in by thinking that says, we’ll Escoffier made it this way, so must we.
British food/cooking would out run then in many cases and frankly, I’ve had better choices and food out of many pubs than some French restaurants. The French have been resting on their laurels for too long, something Roux Jr. admits as well - which is ironic to say - but he does think mindsets are changing to be fair.
This is all the more frustrating because oftentimes, French ingredients are superb. They just keep cooking it the same way.
Oh and one passing attack: grits…awfully bland!
My last visit to France (the Loire Valley) was a great holiday but the food was really hit and miss. I had one one the best meals I have ever experienced but we also had many, many poor meals and overall poor experiences. We were even totally ignored for around 3/4 of an hour by an elderly lady who owned a small cafe. People (locals) continued to walk in and were served pretty much immediately whilst we were ignored. My wife said "lets go, she obviously doesn't want us here"... I replied "We've done nothing wrong and we are not going anywhere... the cafe closes at 2 o'clock and if she want s to close the cafe at some point she will have to at least acknowledge us". She eventually came over to us and seemed quite surprised my wife could speak French. We were the last in the cafe by the time the food came but it was rank average to be honest.
Rolling around on your plate getting in the way of legitimate food, filling up otherwise promising pies, often alongside their slightly less useless cousin the carrot.
Popping up sporadically to ruin a perfectly decent chicken fried rice, causing me no small amount of extraction-related hassle in a crowded oriental eatery.
Even occasionally squirming their way into a keema nan, which is mad! Now I have to ask "You don't put peas in your keema nan do you?" every time, generally getting back a very fair "No, you moron" sort of look from the waiter.
At least when they come in that modern small pot-thing you can treat them with the immediate disdain they deserve.
Rolling around on your plate getting in the way of legitimate food, filling up otherwise promising pies, often alongside their slightly less useless cousin the carrot.
Popping up sporadically to ruin a perfectly decent chicken fried rice, causing me no small amount of extraction-related hassle in a crowded oriental eatery.
Even occasionally squirming their way into a keema nan, which is mad! Now I have to ask "You don't put peas in your keema nan do you?" every time, generally getting back a very fair "No, you moron" sort of look from the waiter.
At least when they come in that modern small pot-thing you can treat them with the immediate disdain they deserve.
Rs Holy mentioning France reminded me of my regulation school trip to Boulogne back in the day. A few of us sneaked off to a cafe and I ordered some great looking sausages. I had no idea what I was doing. They were andouillette, the sausage made of the lower intestines of pigs. They smelled and tasted of what I imagined shit must taste of. I gagged and spat the first mouthful out.
Rs Holy mentioning France reminded me of my regulation school trip to Boulogne back in the day. A few of us sneaked off to a cafe and I ordered some great looking sausages. I had no idea what I was doing. They were andouillette, the sausage made of the lower intestines of pigs. They smelled and tasted of what I imagined shit must taste of. I gagged and spat the first mouthful out.
Never go near them if you're in France.
My friend did the same in Paris.
He asked his fellow diners "does this smell of shit?"
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Another vote for poutine. To be fair, Mrs PH a Québécois did strongly advise against it and didn’t order for herself. Just rubbish and affront to potatoes!
However, the title of the thread is overrated and I’m going to say…French food. Sone of it is of course sublime. But so much is predictable and too many French chefs; cooking and dishes are conservative; restaurant menus are repetitive; and stuck in time as much as they are hemmed in by thinking that says, we’ll Escoffier made it this way, so must we.
British food/cooking would out run then in many cases and frankly, I’ve had better choices and food out of many pubs than some French restaurants. The French have been resting on their laurels for too long, something Roux Jr. admits as well - which is ironic to say - but he does think mindsets are changing to be fair.
This is all the more frustrating because oftentimes, French ingredients are superb. They just keep cooking it the same way.
Oh and one passing attack: grits…awfully bland!
I have to agree that eating out in France is incredibly hit and miss. We've had great meals sitting on plastic chairs in the streets of scruffy villages, and terrible meals in fancy places - massive difference to Italy where standards are uniformly high, and Belgium, surprisingly perhaps, where they really eat well, if not often healthily.
Someone explained to me that French people get work-issued luncheon vouchers worth about £8 a day, which perversely makes them determined to pay as little as they can on top of this and not too bothered about quality. We've had many meals in Western France in particular where if we've managed to get to the restaurant for 1.30 closing, or 1.15, or whenever they've decided to stop serving, we have sat in packed restaurants to eat three of four courses for €12. Pre-peeled potatoes out of the bag, veg out of a jar, curly, gristly meat. Can we have two course for €15? Might be more palatable.
Not actually food but on the Nando’s theme, TGI f**king Friday! Expensive, shocking bad food. Unfortunately we’ve got one 10 minutes walk away and the wife and kids love it because “they do great cocktails”! Go to a f**king cocktail bar then, I’ll even give up drink for the evening and drop you off and collect you even though you’ll be p**sed!!
Not actually food but on the Nando’s theme, TGI f**king Friday! Expensive, shocking bad food. Unfortunately we’ve got one 10 minutes walk away and the wife and kids love it because “they do great cocktails”! Go to a f**king cocktail bar then, I’ll even give up drink for the evening and drop you off and collect you even though you’ll be p**sed!!
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I used to work in a TGI as a youngster. All fur coat and no knickers. Everything cooked from frozen or the same grill. Mildly pervy cocktails there to distract you from the low grade meat.
Anyone remember Holm's a German bakery in Golborne Rd.My mum used to buy their bread rolls for me to take to school for my lunch and boy were they good.Were talking the 1970'S here.