| Expectations for the rest of the season 20:03 - Nov 9 with 16892 views | Rangersw12 |
What are everyone's expectations now that we a quarter a way through the season ?
For me personally, I think we very much underperforming, players from last season regressing with Dunne & Varane being the biggest culprits.
We finally have a bit of pace in the squad and also a couple of decent strikers but we just never seem to improve and now look the most unfit squad in the league . This is a very poor Championship ( look at the top 10 ) yet other clubs with similar budgets are out performing us again .
We should easily be top 10 this with an outside chance of pushing for the play offs but at the moment we seem way off .
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 05:13 - Nov 10 with 2422 views | QPROslo |
I was expecting us to be in another relegation struggle this season and still do. We have been conceding too many goals all season. Hopefully the changes made for the clean sheet at SU with Hamer in goal and Dunne and M'Bengue switching positions will be continued with, but we still really need a new LB, RB and a CB unless the likes of Akindileni and Smith are going to be ready soon. Other than Burrell's the goals have dried up, Kone isn't firing and if he does he maybe away Dec / Jan with the African Nations Cup. We really need more big (in quality and size) goal scorers as most of our competitors have. Maybe we can sell one of our many short attacking players to fund one. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 06:36 - Nov 10 with 2352 views | Spaceman_P |
I'm expecting better than the last 2 seasons because on paper we have a better squad.
So ill take 12th more or less.
If we get in the top 10 that would better my expectations.
But QPR are seriously a cursed side... I blame Joey Barton. That's like saying Fred West was your mate at work. Its just bad Juju. |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 07:18 - Nov 10 with 2297 views | colinallcars |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 06:36 - Nov 10 by Spaceman_P |
I'm expecting better than the last 2 seasons because on paper we have a better squad.
So ill take 12th more or less.
If we get in the top 10 that would better my expectations.
But QPR are seriously a cursed side... I blame Joey Barton. That's like saying Fred West was your mate at work. Its just bad Juju. |
You worked with Fred as well ? |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 07:36 - Nov 10 with 2260 views | Rsole |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 07:18 - Nov 10 by colinallcars |
You worked with Fred as well ? |
Many found their places, under him. |  |
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 07:45 - Nov 10 with 2244 views | Harbour |
Ground Hog day 16th…but with the squad we should be at least 10th..not sure manager knows first 11 or formation so will lose a few more points. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 07:47 - Nov 10 with 2240 views | BayardRanger66 |
For a coach with his pedigree it has been surprising that Stephan has not set out early on how he wants to play or what the core structure of the team is. The regular 5-6 changes must be very disturbing for the players and I think has impacted the form of key individuals especially at the back. Can only hope that he will take stock now and settle on a core team and way of playing as it's the only way to get consistent results. If he does we could be 10-12th - if he doesn't I'd take 16th now. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 08:17 - Nov 10 with 2161 views | JAPRANGERS |
16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th 16th.
Um I think 16th init? |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 09:29 - Nov 10 with 2087 views | BAWHoops |
Expectations are mid table. We should be 10th - 16th.
We now have a lot of wingers/10's who cannot score and 2 strikers.... Issue is that Madsen and Varane behind them are patchy and their back ups are being used at full back because the recruitment was poor.
Bit of luck and we finish 10th.... bad injuries and bad luck then we will be grinding out points here and there to finish 16th.
Of course you stick a proper keeper between the posts, defence settles down, Varane and Madsen hit top form at the same time, Chair works in the 10 behind one of your decent strikers, you suddenly have a good Championship side... but that will rarely happen across a 46 game season |  |
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 10:11 - Nov 10 with 2038 views | terryb |
At the start of the season I thought we would be midtable based on the signings we had made & I'm not changing that at the moment.
However, I have started to question the notion that we have a much better team this season. In theory, yes, but there isn't that much change in personnel in defence, central midfield & our wide areas. For the majority of our games we've still featured Nardi, Cook, Dunne, Morrison, Varane, Madsen & one or two of Smyth, Saito, Dembele & Chair.
We have definitely improved upfront, but look at the starting point for that position! We've a minor change to our system with a second (deeper) forward replacing a third central midfielder, but what else is new? The improvement to me is the quality of the players sat on the subs bench rather than those on the pitch. And yes, I do appreciate that means an improved squad, but not a particulary improved team.
I've no idea if Stephan rotated as much in France, but I do recall Nourry indicating at the fans forum that we hadn't rotated enough last seson & this was a factor in the injuries we had. Perhaps wrongly, I took that to mean that Stephan had agreed at interview to apply rotation this season, although I'm surprised at the amount made in most games. [Post edited 10 Nov 10:14]
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 10:14 - Nov 10 with 1991 views | stainrods_elbow |
I have no expectations, just a whirlpool of fears and dreary desperation.
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 11:00 - Nov 10 with 1936 views | TheChef |
16th.
Unless there is a tear in the fabric of reality between now and May. |  |
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 11:03 - Nov 10 with 1923 views | TheChef |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 10:14 - Nov 10 by stainrods_elbow |
I have no expectations, just a whirlpool of fears and dreary desperation.
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 11:07 - Nov 10 with 1909 views | oldmeadoniansR |
I'm sticking with 9th. Varane and Kone pivotal. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 11:31 - Nov 10 with 1841 views | Lblock |
Where is this top half squad people think we have recruited?
I was never sold on Kone even during his initial purple patch.
He just hasn’t looked happy for months now and he’s done from a definite double figures striker to possibly one in eight type - a more mobile Lyndon Dykes if you will.
The only two players I’d say who have added to the squad in terms of outlay are Burrell and RND.
My feelings are morale is on its arse due to a “them and us” mentality WITHIN the club. Whispers of a friends network at the top protecting each other doesn’t breed harmony and players are no mugs — they know when colleagues are being thrown under the bus or used as pawns in games.
My gut feel at the moment is that if we don’t bag a few wins at home we’ll be in a bottom three scrap. If so I think it’ll be a year too much and we’ll drop due to issues in key positions, lack of spirit and the luck of the novices finally running out.
I’m hoping we do indeed grab a few wins and then ride along with usual ups and downs of mid table mediocrity and I’d take that right now.
Currently I’m saying 22nd |  |
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 13:08 - Nov 10 with 1738 views | Hunterhoop |
There’s a difference isn’t there in expectations between what we thing they should be and where we should be targeting to finish, vs where we each individually predict we will finish.
I don’t see how the expectation can be lower than last season. The squad is undeniably stronger than last season’s. Perhaps not enormously so, but I don’t see how anyone can argue it is similar or worse. RND, Kone, Burrell, Mbengue, Poku…there is more to work with there. Doesn’t mean there aren’t issues with the squad. But standards….we should be expecting to finish at least top 14, if not top half. Why change the head coach otherwise?!
LBlock, whilst I share your concerns and have heard similar, what I will say is it sounds like the players all like Stephan quite a lot. Morale issues don’t relate to him. It’s the other fellas you’re referencing. |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 13:17 - Nov 10 with 1720 views | FDC |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 13:08 - Nov 10 by Hunterhoop |
There’s a difference isn’t there in expectations between what we thing they should be and where we should be targeting to finish, vs where we each individually predict we will finish.
I don’t see how the expectation can be lower than last season. The squad is undeniably stronger than last season’s. Perhaps not enormously so, but I don’t see how anyone can argue it is similar or worse. RND, Kone, Burrell, Mbengue, Poku…there is more to work with there. Doesn’t mean there aren’t issues with the squad. But standards….we should be expecting to finish at least top 14, if not top half. Why change the head coach otherwise?!
LBlock, whilst I share your concerns and have heard similar, what I will say is it sounds like the players all like Stephan quite a lot. Morale issues don’t relate to him. It’s the other fellas you’re referencing. |
Hunter, do you get a sense of how the goal keeper situation (dropping Nardi, then bringing him in again, then dropping him again) has been viewed inside the camp? |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 13:23 - Nov 10 with 1704 views | Hunterhoop |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 13:17 - Nov 10 by FDC |
Hunter, do you get a sense of how the goal keeper situation (dropping Nardi, then bringing him in again, then dropping him again) has been viewed inside the camp? |
No. Sorry. Don’t know that. They’d have all known about it first day back at pre-season training, if not earlier (players talking in the offseason) as it was not a Stephan decision. It was made before him.
The issues some of the players have is with others (easy to guess) due to their methods, behaviour, and one or two senior pros being told they aren’t wanted anymore (ironically, in one case, after awarding a lucrative extension).
And remember we have a load of new players to bed in. That takes time. But I’ve heard a few times that they all genuinely like Stephan. That’s a positive. I get the impression he is more lenient than Cifuentes, which may have something to do with it. Was told Cifuentes had them in on Sundays if they lost on Saturday, for example. Stephan doesn’t. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 13:34 - Nov 10 with 1673 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 13:23 - Nov 10 by Hunterhoop |
No. Sorry. Don’t know that. They’d have all known about it first day back at pre-season training, if not earlier (players talking in the offseason) as it was not a Stephan decision. It was made before him.
The issues some of the players have is with others (easy to guess) due to their methods, behaviour, and one or two senior pros being told they aren’t wanted anymore (ironically, in one case, after awarding a lucrative extension).
And remember we have a load of new players to bed in. That takes time. But I’ve heard a few times that they all genuinely like Stephan. That’s a positive. I get the impression he is more lenient than Cifuentes, which may have something to do with it. Was told Cifuentes had them in on Sundays if they lost on Saturday, for example. Stephan doesn’t. |
Giving players Sundays off?
They're fcked when he finds out trade unions are shit here. [Post edited 10 Nov 15:02]
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 14:27 - Nov 10 with 1564 views | TheChef |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 13:34 - Nov 10 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Giving players Sundays off?
They're fcked when he finds out trade unions are shit here. [Post edited 10 Nov 15:02]
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 16:08 - Nov 10 with 1453 views | TK1 |
Think we'll sign a keeper (Dieng) and at least one full back in January, possibly another CM, and there'll be lots of agitation to get some outgoings too.
My expectation is anything better than last year's 15th is progress. I think that's possible, even probable, given how many teams are within 5-6 point range ahead of us up to 4th currently.
I agree with Hunter that the squad is considerably better than last season. Not sure Stephan is an upgrade for this league and this club on Marti (ironically think Stephan would be better at Leicester), but we shall see. The friction upwards from Marti probably bought some points last season, in that ignored some instruction, and I suspect the more harmonious/subservient relationship between coach and higher ups may be slightly weakening us this season. But 14th should be achievable. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 17:16 - Nov 10 with 1353 views | Hunterhoop |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 16:08 - Nov 10 by TK1 |
Think we'll sign a keeper (Dieng) and at least one full back in January, possibly another CM, and there'll be lots of agitation to get some outgoings too.
My expectation is anything better than last year's 15th is progress. I think that's possible, even probable, given how many teams are within 5-6 point range ahead of us up to 4th currently.
I agree with Hunter that the squad is considerably better than last season. Not sure Stephan is an upgrade for this league and this club on Marti (ironically think Stephan would be better at Leicester), but we shall see. The friction upwards from Marti probably bought some points last season, in that ignored some instruction, and I suspect the more harmonious/subservient relationship between coach and higher ups may be slightly weakening us this season. But 14th should be achievable. |
Think it’s highly likely Dieng joins in Jan, unless whoever takes over at Boro fancies him over their other two keepers. Came very close to joining in Jan. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 17:41 - Nov 10 with 1301 views | mart_Goblin |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 10:11 - Nov 10 by terryb |
At the start of the season I thought we would be midtable based on the signings we had made & I'm not changing that at the moment.
However, I have started to question the notion that we have a much better team this season. In theory, yes, but there isn't that much change in personnel in defence, central midfield & our wide areas. For the majority of our games we've still featured Nardi, Cook, Dunne, Morrison, Varane, Madsen & one or two of Smyth, Saito, Dembele & Chair.
We have definitely improved upfront, but look at the starting point for that position! We've a minor change to our system with a second (deeper) forward replacing a third central midfielder, but what else is new? The improvement to me is the quality of the players sat on the subs bench rather than those on the pitch. And yes, I do appreciate that means an improved squad, but not a particulary improved team.
I've no idea if Stephan rotated as much in France, but I do recall Nourry indicating at the fans forum that we hadn't rotated enough last seson & this was a factor in the injuries we had. Perhaps wrongly, I took that to mean that Stephan had agreed at interview to apply rotation this season, although I'm surprised at the amount made in most games. [Post edited 10 Nov 10:14]
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Yes it would appear that ‘rotation’ was non negotiable as far as the head coach was concerned when we got to the 3 game weeks.
The amount of turn over though seems bonkers to me , but what do I know . |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 18:53 - Nov 10 with 1225 views | FDC |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 17:16 - Nov 10 by Hunterhoop |
Think it’s highly likely Dieng joins in Jan, unless whoever takes over at Boro fancies him over their other two keepers. Came very close to joining in Jan. |
Just looked Dieng up to check his age (30), and was delighted to learn that his middle name is Timothy. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:17 - Nov 10 with 1136 views | FredManRave |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 18:53 - Nov 10 by FDC |
Just looked Dieng up to check his age (30), and was delighted to learn that his middle name is Timothy. |
STD to his friends?! |  |
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:03 - Nov 10 with 1077 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
New manager getting to understand what he’s got plus lots of rotation, not surprising that results aren’t much. Think we will be OK when things settle down, hopefully. If nothing else we have strength in depth which we didn’t have last year. Winning and losing spells are more or less random in the Championship for the likes of us imo. | | | |
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