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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session 18:26 - May 7 with 12234 viewsPatfromPoole

Why oh why would we need to bloody do this?

UTTER MADNESS if true.

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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 12:52 - May 8 with 2303 viewsDorsetIan

He wasn't spying he was just there checking that his video camera would still work after a long drive.

He was heading for Barnard Castle but he went wrong at Scotch Corner.

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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 12:58 - May 8 with 2283 viewsSouthamptonfan

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 11:12 - May 8 by StAnt

I'm assuming this story has credibility because otherwise we'd be shouting our innocence from the rooftops by now - it wouldn't take long to talk to the first team analyst. If it does turn out to be true it's very shoddy because a) we are exposed to a charge which will carry quite major consequences if we are found guilty and b) it is an unwelcome distraction in our preparation for two crucial games.
Fans may try to play this down and claim it is mind games on the part of Boro but it is unlikely they'd have made the official complaint unless they were very sure they have a case.
My guess is that nothing good will come out of this for us and Boro will use it as another way to motivate their players and fans.
I guess we could claim the guy was acting without club authority and sack him - might be the least painful option but the whole thing is a mess.


If Saints are stupid enough to send somebody known to the club, somebody that can be identified on CCTV, then they are utter idiots. If we were going to send a spy, you send a private investigator or an unknown person with no links to the club. I have read that the complaint holds, because CCTV identifies the guy as a club analyst. I can't believe we are that stupid to send someone who can be easily identified as a club representative. It's like Putin himself, hiding in the bushes in Salsbury, and then saying it has nothing to with Russia.

Are we that pathetic and stupid?

We could be facing a points deduction. If the players know this is true, it will no doubt affect the team.
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 13:25 - May 8 with 2219 viewssaint22

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 12:58 - May 8 by Southamptonfan

If Saints are stupid enough to send somebody known to the club, somebody that can be identified on CCTV, then they are utter idiots. If we were going to send a spy, you send a private investigator or an unknown person with no links to the club. I have read that the complaint holds, because CCTV identifies the guy as a club analyst. I can't believe we are that stupid to send someone who can be easily identified as a club representative. It's like Putin himself, hiding in the bushes in Salsbury, and then saying it has nothing to with Russia.

Are we that pathetic and stupid?

We could be facing a points deduction. If the players know this is true, it will no doubt affect the team.
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I cannot BELIEVE we would be so fkn stupid or indeed Tonda Would sanction such a mental idea
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 13:35 - May 8 with 2190 viewsButty101

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 12:58 - May 8 by Southamptonfan

If Saints are stupid enough to send somebody known to the club, somebody that can be identified on CCTV, then they are utter idiots. If we were going to send a spy, you send a private investigator or an unknown person with no links to the club. I have read that the complaint holds, because CCTV identifies the guy as a club analyst. I can't believe we are that stupid to send someone who can be easily identified as a club representative. It's like Putin himself, hiding in the bushes in Salsbury, and then saying it has nothing to with Russia.

Are we that pathetic and stupid?

We could be facing a points deduction. If the players know this is true, it will no doubt affect the team.
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I doubt it would be loss of points - Leeds got a fine.

Im amazed we are that stupid and hope it dosent distract the players

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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 14:02 - May 8 with 2151 viewsHytheFerrytales

I'm inclined to think this is a storm in a piss-pot.

Forget points deduction..that ain't happening. The main action occurring at the club right now is mass deletion of whatsapps and emails and the plaintive sound of a few iPhones going "plop" into the Solent.
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 14:45 - May 8 with 2099 viewsShirtNumbers

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 12:58 - May 8 by Southamptonfan

If Saints are stupid enough to send somebody known to the club, somebody that can be identified on CCTV, then they are utter idiots. If we were going to send a spy, you send a private investigator or an unknown person with no links to the club. I have read that the complaint holds, because CCTV identifies the guy as a club analyst. I can't believe we are that stupid to send someone who can be easily identified as a club representative. It's like Putin himself, hiding in the bushes in Salsbury, and then saying it has nothing to with Russia.

Are we that pathetic and stupid?

We could be facing a points deduction. If the players know this is true, it will no doubt affect the team.
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"We could be facing a points deduction. If the players know this is true, it will no doubt affect the team."

Source please?

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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 14:49 - May 8 with 2091 viewsSouthamptonfan

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 14:45 - May 8 by ShirtNumbers

"We could be facing a points deduction. If the players know this is true, it will no doubt affect the team."

Source please?


https://www.itv.com/news/merid

"If Southampton FC are found in breach of misconduct, the disciplinary commission will have the power to hand out whatever punishment they see fit.

The EFL's handbook lists punishments such as points deductions, fines and transfer embargoes."
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 16:28 - May 8 with 1939 views130yrs_and_one_Cup

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 14:02 - May 8 by HytheFerrytales

I'm inclined to think this is a storm in a piss-pot.

Forget points deduction..that ain't happening. The main action occurring at the club right now is mass deletion of whatsapps and emails and the plaintive sound of a few iPhones going "plop" into the Solent.


I am inclined to think that this is highly embarassing

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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 16:45 - May 8 with 1898 viewsTripleNiemi

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 16:28 - May 8 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

I am inclined to think that this is highly embarassing


In fairness you are correct; and as an expert in the field of 'embarassing' based on your mob screwing charities, that says a lot.......
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Ready and waiting to mop up those European places......
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 17:19 - May 8 with 1865 viewscocklebreath

The boro lot are mental. I genuinely wouldn’t give a shit if they did it to us.

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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 17:32 - May 8 with 1833 viewsMattFinish

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 18:56 - May 7 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup

It does explain your uplift in form, since your new manager joined.


130, he’s just that floater that won’t flush 💩
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 17:50 - May 8 with 1806 viewsShirtNumbers

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 14:49 - May 8 by Southamptonfan

https://www.itv.com/news/merid

"If Southampton FC are found in breach of misconduct, the disciplinary commission will have the power to hand out whatever punishment they see fit.

The EFL's handbook lists punishments such as points deductions, fines and transfer embargoes."
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Fair enough though I doubt the players mindset will be effected as you suggest. Eckert has built a strong mentality in the squad. At the end of the day, "Spygate" or not, there are two very important games of football to be played. That is what I think and hope the players will be thinking, and what fans should be thinking too.

Worrying about this whole thing is pointless. Just focus on those two games when they come

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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 18:14 - May 8 with 1759 viewsTonyfromdk

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 17:50 - May 8 by ShirtNumbers

Fair enough though I doubt the players mindset will be effected as you suggest. Eckert has built a strong mentality in the squad. At the end of the day, "Spygate" or not, there are two very important games of football to be played. That is what I think and hope the players will be thinking, and what fans should be thinking too.

Worrying about this whole thing is pointless. Just focus on those two games when they come


Well said…
There’s a lot of drama queens on here, who are reacting exactly like this news was intended for….
There is more to this, it doesn’t add up.
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 18:31 - May 8 with 1736 views1ASIN12

Didn’t Leeds and Derby have a “spy gate” drama a few years ago?

Seem to remember Leeds fans singing “stop crying Frank Lampard”

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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 18:45 - May 8 with 1707 viewsUlsterBaz

It is completely fecking embarrassing. Why on earth would anyone think that we’d need to stoop to this level? The silence from the club speaks volumes.
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 19:07 - May 8 with 1677 viewsTonyfromdk

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 18:45 - May 8 by UlsterBaz

It is completely fecking embarrassing. Why on earth would anyone think that we’d need to stoop to this level? The silence from the club speaks volumes.


I rest my case, my lord….🙄
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 19:13 - May 8 with 1668 viewsJellybaby

If true, £100k fine and a reprimand. Storm in a tea cup, next story please.

I wholly disapprove of what you say and will defend to the death your right to say it.

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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 19:54 - May 8 with 1614 viewsUlsterBaz

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 19:07 - May 8 by Tonyfromdk

I rest my case, my lord….🙄


Bullshit. If there was nothing in it the club would’ve spoken.
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 20:26 - May 8 with 1570 viewsTonyfromdk

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 19:13 - May 8 by Jellybaby

If true, £100k fine and a reprimand. Storm in a tea cup, next story please.


I agree, keep calm and carry on…
Some spit their dummy out, even before they know the truth.
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 20:36 - May 8 with 1557 viewspjt50

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 19:13 - May 8 by Jellybaby

If true, £100k fine and a reprimand. Storm in a tea cup, next story please.


I wish.

The trouble is Saints have broken the rules in order to gain an unfair advantage over Boro – however minor. That can't be undone. A punishment that hurts Saints (fine or EFL points deduction) without giving any advantage to Boro in the play-offs may not be enough.

I was just listening to a couple of (sensible) Boro guys arguing that the second leg should be played in front of only the travelling Boro fans. I can’t see the EFL interfering with the result, so they don’t have too many options.

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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 21:00 - May 8 with 1503 viewsJoiedevivre

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 19:54 - May 8 by UlsterBaz

Bullshit. If there was nothing in it the club would’ve spoken.


How have you come to this conclusion. If the alleged incident didn’t take place, why would the club offer a rebuttal - giving Boro what they want in this hypothetical scenario (playing to their tune) - a day or two before a big game.

Keep out of it and deal with it after Tuesday. 14 days is what we’re given. Play the game not the press.
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 21:28 - May 8 with 1460 viewsUTS1885

More to come on think on this episode in the next couple of days after teh game and weekend newspapers.

Now were seeing talki of long range mic equipment, which makes it a bit more dodgy.

LOcal media all think its 100& true with a senior staff member telling a junior to do it
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 22:28 - May 8 with 1337 viewsSouthamptonfan

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 18:14 - May 8 by Tonyfromdk

Well said…
There’s a lot of drama queens on here, who are reacting exactly like this news was intended for….
There is more to this, it doesn’t add up.


Well, I hope you're right. Saints have this evening been charged with cheating, pending an investigation which usually takes place within 14 days. But this has been reduced for this case. Reduced to a time period just before the playoff final 😬

https://uk.yahoo.com/sports/ne
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 22:28 - May 8 with 1331 viewssaintmark1976

Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 20:36 - May 8 by pjt50

I wish.

The trouble is Saints have broken the rules in order to gain an unfair advantage over Boro – however minor. That can't be undone. A punishment that hurts Saints (fine or EFL points deduction) without giving any advantage to Boro in the play-offs may not be enough.

I was just listening to a couple of (sensible) Boro guys arguing that the second leg should be played in front of only the travelling Boro fans. I can’t see the EFL interfering with the result, so they don’t have too many options.


The whole thing is complete and utter tosh.

In most cases ( exceptions being The Crown Estate and Defence Establishment as examples) Section 33 of the 1972 Criminal Justice Act allows public access to private land up and until the point when that right is withdrawn by the owner of the land.

If indeed there is any substance in the allegations ( and currently it’s a big if ) the suggestion is that the person was asked to leave and he/she did so, there by complying with their obligations under the law.

Regarding taking photographs and visual recordings, P I N A C applies. Photography Is Not A Crime.

As for playing the second leg in front of just Boro supporters, have a holiday fella.
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Please tell me we haven't really been caught spying on Boro's training session on 22:59 - May 8 with 1249 viewssaintpaz

Saints have been charged by EPL for spying
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