| Saints charged with spying 09:48 - May 9 with 115533 views | KensalT |
Southampton haven't yet denied these allegations!
For anyone who doesn't know Boro caught someone with some very sophisticated cameras and recording equipment spying on one of their training sessions.
Apparently Boro are looking into the possibility that Saints have done this to other teams this season.
Nightmare timing for the EFL. I can't see any way for them to fudge this
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| Saints charged with spying on 21:03 - Jun 1 with 2401 views | KensalT |
| Saints charged with spying on 19:45 - Jun 1 by daveB |
That statement is incredible, what a club |
One member of the panel played one game for Boro 33 years ago.
So obviously biased 
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| Saints charged with spying on 21:08 - Jun 1 with 2362 views | KensalT |
| Saints charged with spying on 20:21 - Jun 1 by terryb |
Southampton are managing to do quite a good job of deliberately becoming the most disliked club in The Championship! |
They were trying to delete evidence before the hearing
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| Saints charged with spying on 21:12 - Jun 1 with 2329 views | OldPedro |
The more info that comes out makes me think they've got away quite lightly with their punishment |  |
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| Saints charged with spying on 21:55 - Jun 1 with 2182 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Saints charged with spying on 21:12 - Jun 1 by OldPedro |
The more info that comes out makes me think they've got away quite lightly with their punishment |
Pathetic statement by them: as if anyone believes what they say. Clearly did the same things to numerous other clubs but sadly looks like there’s no evidence. I hope their measly 4 points penalty for next season gets at least quadrupled. |  | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 06:30 - Jun 2 with 1976 views | dmm |
Southampton owner will not sack head coach Eckert https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
Surely the FA will rule that Eckert cannot continue to manage in the EFL? |  | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 07:52 - Jun 2 with 1854 views | daveB |
| Saints charged with spying on 06:30 - Jun 2 by dmm |
Southampton owner will not sack head coach Eckert https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
Surely the FA will rule that Eckert cannot continue to manage in the EFL? |
This will backfire on them when more comes out during the FA charges |  | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 08:07 - Jun 2 with 1804 views | EastR |
| Saints charged with spying on 06:30 - Jun 2 by dmm |
Southampton owner will not sack head coach Eckert https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
Surely the FA will rule that Eckert cannot continue to manage in the EFL? |
If the club sack him it will cost them ££
if the FA do the job for them they'll be quids in |  |
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| Saints charged with spying on 08:31 - Jun 2 with 1731 views | KensalT |
| Saints charged with spying on 07:52 - Jun 2 by daveB |
This will backfire on them when more comes out during the FA charges |
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What they are completely ignoring is the Saints fans. A lot of them are very angry and embarrassed by the whole Spygate thing and want the club to clean house, starting with Eckert.
On the other hand everyone will be watching Saints closely next season. It would be interesting to see if Eckert could keep this great run of form he has been on going without the help of cheating.
Somehow I doubt it. [Post edited 2 Jun 8:32]
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| Saints charged with spying on 08:35 - Jun 2 with 1721 views | CorbyQPR |
| Saints charged with spying on 08:07 - Jun 2 by EastR |
If the club sack him it will cost them ££
if the FA do the job for them they'll be quids in |
Will be gross misconduct, surely - therefore no payout..? | | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 08:42 - Jun 2 with 1705 views | KensalT |
| Saints charged with spying on 08:07 - Jun 2 by EastR |
If the club sack him it will cost them ££
if the FA do the job for them they'll be quids in |
The club could sack him for gross misconduct and they wouldn't have to pay compo or give him a notice period.
Systematically breaking the rules ought to be enough grounds for that.
Any sensible club would wait for the FA investigation to play out then sack him regardless of the verdict.
Instead the Saints owner is digging his heels in and thinks Eckert is "a super-talented manager."
But he probably thought the same thing about:
Will Still - lasted 16 games
Ivan Juric - 16
Russell Martin - 73
Ruben Selles - 17
Nathan Jones - 14 | | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 08:47 - Jun 2 with 1690 views | BristolR |
What a nasty, conceited little club. Hope the FA comes down hard on them.
Culture set from the top, rancid, the lot of them |  | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 09:04 - Jun 2 with 1631 views | Lanhoop |
I do hope they get an interesting first away game of the season. Maybe Boro? Or Portsmouth? Come on EFL, show us a sense of humour. | | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 09:09 - Jun 2 with 1606 views | TheChef |
Can't believe the manager is still in situ.
Are they just waiting for it all to blow over and pretend like nothing happened? |  |
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| Saints charged with spying on 09:12 - Jun 2 with 1592 views | Phildo |
| Saints charged with spying on 08:42 - Jun 2 by KensalT |
The club could sack him for gross misconduct and they wouldn't have to pay compo or give him a notice period.
Systematically breaking the rules ought to be enough grounds for that.
Any sensible club would wait for the FA investigation to play out then sack him regardless of the verdict.
Instead the Saints owner is digging his heels in and thinks Eckert is "a super-talented manager."
But he probably thought the same thing about:
Will Still - lasted 16 games
Ivan Juric - 16
Russell Martin - 73
Ruben Selles - 17
Nathan Jones - 14 |
Unless they systematically assisted them and he has evidence they did it in other games. if that came out in an employment dispute they would be in deep do do. Better to let the FA do it for you.
I know a few saints fans and they wanted this ownership gone anyway before all this. Not going to be a happy ship. |  | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 09:27 - Jun 2 with 1533 views | Northernr |
The good news is they're having a third swing at a PR drive today
Best thing on TV at the moment since 'Spurs' ended.
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| Saints charged with spying on 09:40 - Jun 2 with 1482 views | KensalT |
| Saints charged with spying on 09:27 - Jun 2 by Northernr |
The good news is they're having a third swing at a PR drive today
Best thing on TV at the moment since 'Spurs' ended.
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Why are these fools still picking at the scab?
They're stuck on denial while most of their fans have raced ahead to anger.
Specifically, anger with them
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| Saints charged with spying on 10:01 - Jun 2 with 1394 views | TheChef |
| Saints charged with spying on 09:27 - Jun 2 by Northernr |
The good news is they're having a third swing at a PR drive today
Best thing on TV at the moment since 'Spurs' ended.
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Good grief
I can't even be bothered to listen to that, I doubt anyone else can. | |
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| Saints charged with spying on 10:09 - Jun 2 with 1356 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Saints charged with spying on 10:01 - Jun 2 by TheChef |
Good grief
I can't even be bothered to listen to that, I doubt anyone else can. |
You really should, Chef.
Eckert's in particular is hilariously delusional. Genuinely had me laughing numerous times. |  |
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| Saints charged with spying on 10:12 - Jun 2 with 1349 views | daveB |
| Saints charged with spying on 21:08 - Jun 1 by KensalT |
They were trying to delete evidence before the hearing
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But the manager now saying he didn't know it was against the rules.
What a circus | | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 10:13 - Jun 2 with 1345 views | dmm |
If I were a Soton fan, I'd be fuming after listening to those two clips. Both came across as disingenuous and should have simply admitted cheating and apologised profusely. | | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 10:17 - Jun 2 with 1317 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Saints charged with spying on 10:12 - Jun 2 by daveB |
But the manager now saying he didn't know it was against the rules.
What a circus |
That's one of the bits that had me guffawing: like, if they didn't think that watching training sessions was against the rules, then why was the lad hidden behind a tree?
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| Saints charged with spying on 10:20 - Jun 2 with 1304 views | qprninja |
The nature of the offence and the antics to facilitate it instantly makes a total mockery of the manager's claims that he did not know it was against the rules. For the club owners to now be considering not sacking him is astonishing. The very definition of an untenable position. |  | | |
| Saints charged with spying on 10:23 - Jun 2 with 1293 views | kensalriser |
I think I know what they’re doing. They’re digging down until they can get a spot in the A League. |  |
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| Saints charged with spying on 10:31 - Jun 2 with 1256 views | daveB |
They think he will get them promoted so they will stick with him. If other clubs come forward or more evidence comes out they look stupid. If not they will probably use it as a siege mentality next season and play the victims which has already started among their fanbase | | | |
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