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So where are the bed wetters now 07:12 - Aug 23 with 6808 viewsMattFinish

Who were writing our season off and slagging off Tonda and the players after the opening game

Get a grip
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So where are the bed wetters now on 08:16 - Aug 23 with 5046 viewssaint_04

Agree, totally unnecessary bed wetting already.

Trust the process, Tonda knows what he is doing. Everything he said after the game including the THB situation is spot on. We aren't going to be unbeatable at the start of the season, new players and need to get into our rhythm. Hopefully Jander will be back soon as he is a fantastic part of the jigsaw.

If THB goes, we will replace. He isn't the first player to leave Southampton and won't be the last.

Also excited about Mubama up and running, added energy when he came on after Cyle had done his part.
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So where are the bed wetters now on 08:29 - Aug 23 with 5013 viewsTonyfromdk

I think we all know who the biggest bed wetter is.
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So where are the bed wetters now on 10:33 - Aug 23 with 4740 viewsBridders2

So where are the bed wetters now on 08:29 - Aug 23 by Tonyfromdk

I think we all know who the biggest bed wetter is.


Would it be our Blobby?

Dorsaint
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So where are the bed wetters now on 12:22 - Aug 23 with 4630 viewsTonyfromdk

So where are the bed wetters now on 10:33 - Aug 23 by Bridders2

Would it be our Blobby?


You got it in one
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So where are the bed wetters now on 13:30 - Aug 23 with 4557 viewsIfonly

There's no reason for bed wetting but there's no reason for victory laps either. One win against a poor Stoke side, that could easily have been a draw, doesn't mean we're the greatest. Automatic promotion is the aim, so we need to get to a level where we're putting this kind of side away in our home matches.

We have to be as good as the 3 relegated sides over a long tough season and that means we need to strengthen some key areas by the end of the month, probably while we're losing some key players. It will be tough to do.
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So where are the bed wetters now on 13:32 - Aug 23 with 4548 viewssaint22

So where are the bed wetters now on 13:30 - Aug 23 by Ifonly

There's no reason for bed wetting but there's no reason for victory laps either. One win against a poor Stoke side, that could easily have been a draw, doesn't mean we're the greatest. Automatic promotion is the aim, so we need to get to a level where we're putting this kind of side away in our home matches.

We have to be as good as the 3 relegated sides over a long tough season and that means we need to strengthen some key areas by the end of the month, probably while we're losing some key players. It will be tough to do.


This
If the board wanna show they back the manager then let’s get a decent CB or depending on THB ideally two in asap
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So where are the bed wetters now on 13:41 - Aug 23 with 4529 viewshedgeend61

So where are the bed wetters now on 10:33 - Aug 23 by Bridders2

Would it be our Blobby?


Lads, don't take the p1ss, his poor Ma had 9 pairs of dirty kecks to wash last night,
would have been double figures if we hadn't bagged a late goal.
She is hoping he finds a Doris one day, Bob hope and none I hear you say.

Poor boys hairs all falling out, pity some of the 22 stone don't,
any more pie, finished with that on your plate.
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So where are the bed wetters now on 13:44 - Aug 23 with 4473 viewsBridders2

So where are the bed wetters now on 13:30 - Aug 23 by Ifonly

There's no reason for bed wetting but there's no reason for victory laps either. One win against a poor Stoke side, that could easily have been a draw, doesn't mean we're the greatest. Automatic promotion is the aim, so we need to get to a level where we're putting this kind of side away in our home matches.

We have to be as good as the 3 relegated sides over a long tough season and that means we need to strengthen some key areas by the end of the month, probably while we're losing some key players. It will be tough to do.


Nobody is being complacent, and there is a lot to do, especially with transfers, but certain doom scollers do come out of the woodwork at every opportunity.

Dorsaint
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So where are the bed wetters now on 13:52 - Aug 23 with 4494 viewsshotters

I really dislike the term "bedwetter"

It's understandable to be concerned after 2 key players leaving, more than likely a 3rd in the next few days and wondering who's going to replace them. SR's recruitment has at times been questionable to say the least

Having said that, the constant negativity is rather tiresome, it was noticeable how quiet it was here last night after our first win of the season. Also the hand wringing after we've missed out on signing some random player that most of us have never heard of a few days before can be rather strange

Strap yourself in for a bumpy ride for the next few days until the transfer window closes, I've no doubt there will be plenty of stories about Saints players leaving, most of which will be complete b*llocks with no substance.

I have faith that the club will bring in as good replacements as they can afford and also convince to come and play for a championship club with a somewhat tarnished reputation right now. If you don't have faith and optimism, whats left and why bother putting yourself through some much angst anymore?

Fail we may, sail we must

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So where are the bed wetters now on 09:29 - Aug 24 with 3846 viewsA1079

There was an over reaction to a poor 45 minutes at Watford, but I was detecting that there was a downward mood amongst the fan base last week with stories of players leaving. I think had we not won on Saturday the mood would have been of one of virtual meltdown amongst some of our fanbase.

That said, it was a good and necessary win on Saturday. I was there and I have to say though, for the most part our performance was poor until towards the end. We had plenty of possession in the 2nd half but offered little real threat. The goal by Larin was excellent but I expected us to push on and overwhelm what was in truth a very poor Stoke City, yet we made heavy weather of it. We are lacking in midfield and offering little bite apart from Downes who got his customary yellow card because he was the only one willing to put a tackle in. On that performance (despite the win) we will struggle against a good Millwall side. But, a win is a win and this may kick us on and I do have faith in Tonde. I just hope we have a good closing transfer window as we need some quality strength particularly if THB moves on and at the moment we are looking flaky in midfield.
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So where are the bed wetters now on 14:56 - Aug 24 with 3683 viewsBridders2

So where are the bed wetters now on 09:29 - Aug 24 by A1079

There was an over reaction to a poor 45 minutes at Watford, but I was detecting that there was a downward mood amongst the fan base last week with stories of players leaving. I think had we not won on Saturday the mood would have been of one of virtual meltdown amongst some of our fanbase.

That said, it was a good and necessary win on Saturday. I was there and I have to say though, for the most part our performance was poor until towards the end. We had plenty of possession in the 2nd half but offered little real threat. The goal by Larin was excellent but I expected us to push on and overwhelm what was in truth a very poor Stoke City, yet we made heavy weather of it. We are lacking in midfield and offering little bite apart from Downes who got his customary yellow card because he was the only one willing to put a tackle in. On that performance (despite the win) we will struggle against a good Millwall side. But, a win is a win and this may kick us on and I do have faith in Tonde. I just hope we have a good closing transfer window as we need some quality strength particularly if THB moves on and at the moment we are looking flaky in midfield.


Good post.

Dorsaint
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So where are the bed wetters now on 23:20 - Aug 24 with 3547 viewsMattFinish

The thing is every team in the division is buying and losing players so we're all in the same position.

It's going to be a tougher start for us than anyone in the division because we’re bound to be flat after losing our chance to play in the PL this season, we have the pressure of starting 4 points behind everyone, we’re going to be public enemy number one and we're still waiting for the idiots at the FA to come to some sort of decision on Tonda 16 weeks after we were caught spying.

Although I'm not keen on the term bed wetters it seems the most appropriate way to describe people who were getting their knickers in a twist about our season after only one game.
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So where are the bed wetters now on 23:26 - Aug 24 with 3539 viewsMattFinish

So where are the bed wetters now on 13:30 - Aug 23 by Ifonly

There's no reason for bed wetting but there's no reason for victory laps either. One win against a poor Stoke side, that could easily have been a draw, doesn't mean we're the greatest. Automatic promotion is the aim, so we need to get to a level where we're putting this kind of side away in our home matches.

We have to be as good as the 3 relegated sides over a long tough season and that means we need to strengthen some key areas by the end of the month, probably while we're losing some key players. It will be tough to do.


Don't think I was suggesting victory laps?

"we need to get to a level where we're putting this kind of side away in our home matches" - errr I think we did, 3-1 as far as I can tell and I think over half of the teams in the division will be aiming for automatic promotion including us.

I agree it will be tough to get automatic promotion but I trust in Tonda.
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So where are the bed wetters now on 21:23 - Aug 25 with 3260 viewsButty101

So where are the bed wetters now on 23:26 - Aug 24 by MattFinish

Don't think I was suggesting victory laps?

"we need to get to a level where we're putting this kind of side away in our home matches" - errr I think we did, 3-1 as far as I can tell and I think over half of the teams in the division will be aiming for automatic promotion including us.

I agree it will be tough to get automatic promotion but I trust in Tonda.


This thread could age well. Losing to the youth of Westham badly . still if you believe Matt every thing is great.

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So where are the bed wetters now on 21:38 - Aug 25 with 3228 viewsMattFinish

So where are the bed wetters now on 21:23 - Aug 25 by Butty101

This thread could age well. Losing to the youth of Westham badly . still if you believe Matt every thing is great.


And with that I rest my case

Obviously 3 games into the season our season is over because we’ve just lost to probably the best team to be relegated from the PL in 20 years 🙄🙄🙄
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So where are the bed wetters now on 21:40 - Aug 25 with 3219 viewsMattFinish

This is what we were up against tonight

https://www.transfermarkt.co.u

Transfer fees we could only dream of
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So where are the bed wetters now on 21:44 - Aug 25 with 3188 viewsMattFinish

Obviously things would only be good if we’d beaten West Ham but only good until the next defeat when our season will be over again

Seriously? Crap support
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So where are the bed wetters now on 21:57 - Aug 25 with 3142 viewsButty101

So where are the bed wetters now on 21:38 - Aug 25 by MattFinish

And with that I rest my case

Obviously 3 games into the season our season is over because we’ve just lost to probably the best team to be relegated from the PL in 20 years 🙄🙄🙄


Who said the seasons over?

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So where are the bed wetters now on 22:03 - Aug 25 with 3119 viewsButty101

So where are the bed wetters now on 21:38 - Aug 25 by MattFinish

And with that I rest my case

Obviously 3 games into the season our season is over because we’ve just lost to probably the best team to be relegated from the PL in 20 years 🙄🙄🙄


Keep clapping fella, im more measured and dont jump the gun after a loss or a lucky win against the mighty Stoke.

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So where are the bed wetters now on 22:16 - Aug 25 with 3072 viewsMattFinish

So where are the bed wetters now on 21:57 - Aug 25 by Butty101

Who said the seasons over?


Who said I think everything is great? What I’m saying Butty is the league season is two games in and we’re still eight months from the end of the season so I’m just sick of the usual bed wetters bleating about how bad things are

So if we win the next two everything is fine and if we lose the next two everything’s crap?
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So where are the bed wetters now on 22:21 - Aug 25 with 3037 viewsMattFinish

So where are the bed wetters now on 22:03 - Aug 25 by Butty101

Keep clapping fella, im more measured and dont jump the gun after a loss or a lucky win against the mighty Stoke.


So what should we have done against Stoke

IMO a win against Stoke when we’re not on our usual form is fine

I think everyone was spoiled last season with the 20 game unbeaten run and now if we don’t continue that they’re slagging off the team, manager club etc

I prefer to support
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So where are the bed wetters now on 22:31 - Aug 25 with 3014 viewsSouthamptonfan

So where are the bed wetters now on 22:16 - Aug 25 by MattFinish

Who said I think everything is great? What I’m saying Butty is the league season is two games in and we’re still eight months from the end of the season so I’m just sick of the usual bed wetters bleating about how bad things are

So if we win the next two everything is fine and if we lose the next two everything’s crap?


Read between the lines Matt. Does it not worry you at all that a team that beat Arsenal and didn't lose in 25 games, suddenly loses 2 in 3, look all over the place, arn't motivated like they were, the defence suddenly looks a shambles, our best defender who is still our player can't play and is about to leave. We have just had a massive scandal. Do you not worry it's possible that this cloud has / is affecting the club? You can't just pretend everything is fine when it isn't. People have eyes and can see the mess on the pitch. It's not just a few defeats. It's the manner of them and the sudden change in the attitude of the players that is worrying. People who care about this club arn't always smiley and happy. They are entitled to worry, to feel angry when we get thrashed on our own pitch. I care deeply about my children, but I am not always smiley and happy with them if they do wrong. Support isn't just about saying well done come what may, if it isn't deserved. It was a terrible perfprmance tonight, tell the truth and tell it how it how it is. Millwall is a big game Saturday. They are a really good side in this league. If we win that, things are fine but we.will.have to improve.
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So where are the bed wetters now on 23:18 - Aug 25 with 2947 viewssaintmark1976

So where are the bed wetters now on 22:31 - Aug 25 by Southamptonfan

Read between the lines Matt. Does it not worry you at all that a team that beat Arsenal and didn't lose in 25 games, suddenly loses 2 in 3, look all over the place, arn't motivated like they were, the defence suddenly looks a shambles, our best defender who is still our player can't play and is about to leave. We have just had a massive scandal. Do you not worry it's possible that this cloud has / is affecting the club? You can't just pretend everything is fine when it isn't. People have eyes and can see the mess on the pitch. It's not just a few defeats. It's the manner of them and the sudden change in the attitude of the players that is worrying. People who care about this club arn't always smiley and happy. They are entitled to worry, to feel angry when we get thrashed on our own pitch. I care deeply about my children, but I am not always smiley and happy with them if they do wrong. Support isn't just about saying well done come what may, if it isn't deserved. It was a terrible perfprmance tonight, tell the truth and tell it how it how it is. Millwall is a big game Saturday. They are a really good side in this league. If we win that, things are fine but we.will.have to improve.
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Couldn’t have put it better myself Southamptonfan.

On the 17th of August I put a header on the site asking the question “ Has the disappointment of last season simply been too great for everyone” ?

As is their privilege few agreed with me.

Given our start to the season so far and the currently less than satisfactory dealings in the summer window, I’m really beginning to again wonder if my comment was not as far off the mark as some suggested.
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So where are the bed wetters now on 23:39 - Aug 25 with 2888 viewsSouthamptonfan

So where are the bed wetters now on 23:18 - Aug 25 by saintmark1976

Couldn’t have put it better myself Southamptonfan.

On the 17th of August I put a header on the site asking the question “ Has the disappointment of last season simply been too great for everyone” ?

As is their privilege few agreed with me.

Given our start to the season so far and the currently less than satisfactory dealings in the summer window, I’m really beginning to again wonder if my comment was not as far off the mark as some suggested.
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It's still early days, but I sense something isn't right. Watford was very disappointing. Stoke, ok we got the win and I was delighted but we only just won it and Stoke are very poor. Tonight is only the cup. I don't care about the cup, but getting thrashed and the manner of the performance is worrying. It's very possible that there is a hangover from last season. These players worked so hard, incredibly hard to get to the final and now they have to do it all again and Saints are weaker than last season, which makes it even harder. Without Jander, Harwood- Bellis, Charles, Stewart and a dodgy Jack Stephens as our main defender all feels disheartening. Big game Saturday. A win will feel.huge. A defeat will confirm.that something is definitely wrong I think.

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So where are the bed wetters now on 00:15 - Aug 26 with 2842 viewsMattFinish

So where are the bed wetters now on 22:31 - Aug 25 by Southamptonfan

Read between the lines Matt. Does it not worry you at all that a team that beat Arsenal and didn't lose in 25 games, suddenly loses 2 in 3, look all over the place, arn't motivated like they were, the defence suddenly looks a shambles, our best defender who is still our player can't play and is about to leave. We have just had a massive scandal. Do you not worry it's possible that this cloud has / is affecting the club? You can't just pretend everything is fine when it isn't. People have eyes and can see the mess on the pitch. It's not just a few defeats. It's the manner of them and the sudden change in the attitude of the players that is worrying. People who care about this club arn't always smiley and happy. They are entitled to worry, to feel angry when we get thrashed on our own pitch. I care deeply about my children, but I am not always smiley and happy with them if they do wrong. Support isn't just about saying well done come what may, if it isn't deserved. It was a terrible perfprmance tonight, tell the truth and tell it how it how it is. Millwall is a big game Saturday. They are a really good side in this league. If we win that, things are fine but we.will.have to improve.
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In a word Southamptonfan, absolutely no, it does it not worry me at all that a team that beat Arsenal and didn't lose in 25 games, suddenly loses 2 in 3

“We look all over the place, aren't motivated like they were, the defence suddenly looks a shambles, our best defender who is still our player can't play and is about to leave?” What did everyone expect? Do they expect us to continue undefeated? Did anyone seriously think that no-one from the PL was going to bid for THB? Every single team in the Championship who had players performing at a top level last season will be at risk of losing them this season. That's football.

"You can't just pretend everything is fine when it isn't." I'm not, I'm just not over reacting like a lot of other people on this site. I've said before there is scar tissue from last season just like there was when Tonda took over from Still. But I can't help but reiterate we are only two games into the season and we've won one and lost one. I think it says everything that the bed wetters say we narrowly won 3-1 but we overwhelmingly lost 2-1

Spot on, you’re absolutely right it’s NOT just a few defeats. It’s one narrow defeat against Watford away in the league and a home loss against the team that is a cast iron cert for top of the league – or are you writing them off too because they’ve taken 1 point from two league games?

“Do I not worry it's possible that this cloud has / is affecting the club?” Yes but we are only two games into a 46 game season FFS.

“Support isn't just about saying well done come what may, if it isn't deserved.” I’m not saying that at all. I’m trying to counter the absolute hysteria from certain individuals on this site. Let’s not forget we’ve taken two more points than WHU so far who are out and out favourites for champions. The top 8 include WBA, Charlton, QPR, Blackburn, Watford and Swansea. Do you think they will all be there in a month’s time?

I think everyone needs to get real, chill out and see what develops. FFS we're two games into a new season with 132 points still to play for. Last season when Tonda took over we were 21st with 6 months to go yet we finished 4 points off automatic promotion
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