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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries 11:57 - Sep 2 with 3556 viewsandoverpierre

So Ramsdale and Downes still here then after window closed i suppose we are paying them isnt it about time they get integrated into the squad. and what has happened to Mads Roersleve havnt seen him in any squad is he injured like Casper Jander ?
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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 13:15 - Sep 2 with 3394 viewsSaintNick

The window is still open in some countries

Wednesday 2 September – Norway, Holland, Denmark
Thursday 3 September – Scotland, Austria, Belgium
Friday 4 September – Ukraine, Turkey
Monday 7 September – Romania
Tuesday 8 September – Switzerland, Bulgaria, Czech Republic
Wednesday 9 September – Poland
Thursday 10 September – Azerbaijan
Sunday 13 September – Slovakia
Tuesday 15 September – Greece
Wednesday 16 September – Israel
Friday 18 September – Serbia

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 13:16 - Sep 2 with 3390 viewssaintmark1976

Didn’t Damion Downs go out on loan to some American outfit ?

As for Ramsdale, it’s difficult to see any outcome other than he stays until his contract expires simply because nobody will match his salary which is suggested to be anywhere between £75 and £120 thousand a week with a buy out clause of £25 million. Whoever agreed to that for S F C needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

Roersleve and Jander, it appears strange that they haven’t been seen anywhere near the first team squad. Fallen out with Tonda possibly ?

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 15:16 - Sep 2 with 3216 viewsLondonSaint76

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 13:16 - Sep 2 by saintmark1976

Didn’t Damion Downs go out on loan to some American outfit ?

As for Ramsdale, it’s difficult to see any outcome other than he stays until his contract expires simply because nobody will match his salary which is suggested to be anywhere between £75 and £120 thousand a week with a buy out clause of £25 million. Whoever agreed to that for S F C needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

Roersleve and Jander, it appears strange that they haven’t been seen anywhere near the first team squad. Fallen out with Tonda possibly ?


That’s what I thought, DD was supposedly off to St.Louis City on loan but it appears that he remains a resident of Southampton Donkey Sanctuary.

As for Jander, when asked at a recent press conference Tonda said that his injury was not responding to treatment at the rate that type of injury normally does. This means the return date originally forecast was wide of the mark and it is not something that could have been foreseen. Sounds like they won’t be rushing him back.

Roerslev? No idea what is happening with him - he does not get a mention at press conferences….
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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 15:25 - Sep 2 with 3191 viewsSouthamptonfan

Ramsdale won't give up his 100 grand a week, unless it's matched and apart from huge clubs, who is going to pay that? The club have been very naive insisting that Long is number 2. If Ramsdale stays, we pay him 100 grand a week to play for the under 21's?

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 15:25 - Sep 2 with 3191 viewsPatfromPoole

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 13:15 - Sep 2 by SaintNick

The window is still open in some countries

Wednesday 2 September – Norway, Holland, Denmark
Thursday 3 September – Scotland, Austria, Belgium
Friday 4 September – Ukraine, Turkey
Monday 7 September – Romania
Tuesday 8 September – Switzerland, Bulgaria, Czech Republic
Wednesday 9 September – Poland
Thursday 10 September – Azerbaijan
Sunday 13 September – Slovakia
Tuesday 15 September – Greece
Wednesday 16 September – Israel
Friday 18 September – Serbia


Possibly significantly, the Saudi League transfer window closes on Monday 12 October.

Can't see Ramsdale going (on loan) to any of the other countries listed apart from Turkey.

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 20:36 - Sep 2 with 2860 views1ASIN12

I do wonder, the stance we have on saying Ramsdale won’t play is due to some sort of appearance money we can’t afford to pay. Might explain why , even if he stays ,he won’t play.

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 20:57 - Sep 2 with 2831 viewskingslandstand1

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 13:16 - Sep 2 by saintmark1976

Didn’t Damion Downs go out on loan to some American outfit ?

As for Ramsdale, it’s difficult to see any outcome other than he stays until his contract expires simply because nobody will match his salary which is suggested to be anywhere between £75 and £120 thousand a week with a buy out clause of £25 million. Whoever agreed to that for S F C needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

Roersleve and Jander, it appears strange that they haven’t been seen anywhere near the first team squad. Fallen out with Tonda possibly ?


Confirmation, loan only though

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sp

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 21:32 - Sep 2 with 2802 viewsAvior

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 15:16 - Sep 2 by LondonSaint76

That’s what I thought, DD was supposedly off to St.Louis City on loan but it appears that he remains a resident of Southampton Donkey Sanctuary.

As for Jander, when asked at a recent press conference Tonda said that his injury was not responding to treatment at the rate that type of injury normally does. This means the return date originally forecast was wide of the mark and it is not something that could have been foreseen. Sounds like they won’t be rushing him back.

Roerslev? No idea what is happening with him - he does not get a mention at press conferences….


According to Transfermarkt Downs has gone to St Louis
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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 21:57 - Sep 2 with 2761 viewskingslandstand1

Well here's Tonda's stance on Ramsdale. No holding back, but ok he made a commitment to Peretz that implies no competition for places and no incentive for Ramsdale to fight for a place?

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 21:58 - Sep 2 with 2752 viewskingslandstand1

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 15:25 - Sep 2 by Southamptonfan

Ramsdale won't give up his 100 grand a week, unless it's matched and apart from huge clubs, who is going to pay that? The club have been very naive insisting that Long is number 2. If Ramsdale stays, we pay him 100 grand a week to play for the under 21's?


Relegation clause according to the Echo article so that probably reduces that £100k

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 23:10 - Sep 2 with 2657 viewsBridders2

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 21:57 - Sep 2 by kingslandstand1

Well here's Tonda's stance on Ramsdale. No holding back, but ok he made a commitment to Peretz that implies no competition for places and no incentive for Ramsdale to fight for a place?


The club was keen to get Peretz on a permanent deal so probably had to give him assurances that he would be first choice keeper, which is what Tonda is referring to. But if he goes through a period of poor form then he should be professional enough to know there's a great keeper waiting in the wings

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 07:32 - Sep 3 with 2448 viewshortonsaint

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 23:10 - Sep 2 by Bridders2

The club was keen to get Peretz on a permanent deal so probably had to give him assurances that he would be first choice keeper, which is what Tonda is referring to. But if he goes through a period of poor form then he should be professional enough to know there's a great keeper waiting in the wings


Absolutely, whilst I like Perez a lot, he has had an average start this season and as things stand he is (too?) safe in the knowledge that he is first choice. Unless we are committed to appearance payments for Ramsdale, it would seem daft not to promote him to first choice should Peretz’s form not improved. That said, in terms of the shaky start, his kicking and distribution has never been the best, he’s flapped with a couple of crosses and possibly let a goal in at Watford that he could’ve done better with. Not sure if this constitutes a crisis of form. He has plenty of credit for now.
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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 13:17 - Sep 4 with 2043 viewsandoverpierre

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 21:32 - Sep 2 by Avior

According to Transfermarkt Downs has gone to St Louis


At least downes is off the wage bill now as wasnt going to get a look in . that purchase does seem a weird one.

Ramsdale is odd our only hope is that Saudi come in and buy him otherwise we are stuck paying his 50% salary which must have kicked in now but its still 60k a week not to play utter madness .

And Roersleve i just dont get what happening there as bree hasnt been as assured as last season in a few games
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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 14:06 - Sep 4 with 1984 viewsMonksway

For McCarthy read Ramsdale, albeit even more expensive. Sounds like he will be on an excellent salaried four months paternity leave!?! I'd expect Long to be on the bench but if Peretz was seriously injured then, just like McCarthy after Bazunu was injured, Ramsdale will step in. It's an expensive insurance policy for SR and Solak but not bad situation for Saints as Long couldn't really be viewed as a replacement for Peretz over any length of time. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Ramsdale was helping Lallana with the U21s.
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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 14:21 - Sep 4 with 1960 viewsTonyfromdk

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 14:06 - Sep 4 by Monksway

For McCarthy read Ramsdale, albeit even more expensive. Sounds like he will be on an excellent salaried four months paternity leave!?! I'd expect Long to be on the bench but if Peretz was seriously injured then, just like McCarthy after Bazunu was injured, Ramsdale will step in. It's an expensive insurance policy for SR and Solak but not bad situation for Saints as Long couldn't really be viewed as a replacement for Peretz over any length of time. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Ramsdale was helping Lallana with the U21s.


My view on this.
Having Ramsdale floating around has made Peretz insecure of his place in the team.
This is why so far we haven’t seen the same as last season from him.
Hence Tonda coming out with, We have 3 keepers and Rambo isn’t one of them.
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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 14:24 - Sep 4 with 1947 viewsTimSaint

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 13:17 - Sep 4 by andoverpierre

At least downes is off the wage bill now as wasnt going to get a look in . that purchase does seem a weird one.

Ramsdale is odd our only hope is that Saudi come in and buy him otherwise we are stuck paying his 50% salary which must have kicked in now but its still 60k a week not to play utter madness .

And Roersleve i just dont get what happening there as bree hasnt been as assured as last season in a few games


Just for future reference..... :-)

Flynn DOWNES is a midfielder and very much part of our current squad.
Damion DOWNS is a 'striker' that we have loaned out to St Louis City.

Up front we are relying on the fitness of Larin, at least until January. It was great the way we interchanged Larin and Stewart last season, but so far, Mubama is still getting to know his team mates and our style of play. I suppose we could also play Dobbin up top and maybe Princewill as well.

We are stuck with Ramsdale. He will probably continue to be the U21 Keeper, once he returns from Paternity Leave, unless someone comes in for him from a country that still has their window open - but with a new born, I doubt he and his family will be up for a foreign move. He is a talent and definitely needs to be involved, even if it is to put him in the shop window for January.

I saw somewhere in the last week or so of the window, that we were looking to sell Roerslev. Not sure if that was before or after Sugawara went out on loan, but either way, I'm not convinced he has the manager's backing and maybe Will Still will sign him in January !!

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 16:20 - Sep 4 with 1831 viewsSouthamptonfan

Tonda has confirmed that Ramsdale will be staying and that Long will be number 2. 100k a week for sitting in the stands. Easy money!!!


Ransdale was never going to be sold. None of the top 6 would want him. Then you are looking at lower PL teams to not only buy him for a fee, but also pay his extortionate wages. Was never going to happen. Money talks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 20:27 - Sep 4 with 1707 viewsshotters

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 16:20 - Sep 4 by Southamptonfan

Tonda has confirmed that Ramsdale will be staying and that Long will be number 2. 100k a week for sitting in the stands. Easy money!!!


Ransdale was never going to be sold. None of the top 6 would want him. Then you are looking at lower PL teams to not only buy him for a fee, but also pay his extortionate wages. Was never going to happen. Money talks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
[Post edited 4 Sep 16:26]


Not his fault that Saints were shortsighted enough to give him that contract and I may be wrong but I'd hope he had a relegation clause in his contract, if not then again that's not his fault

As long as he's professional, trains properly and available for selection then he's doing nothing wrong

Fail we may, sail we must

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 22:40 - Sep 4 with 1588 viewsSouthamptonfan

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 20:27 - Sep 4 by shotters

Not his fault that Saints were shortsighted enough to give him that contract and I may be wrong but I'd hope he had a relegation clause in his contract, if not then again that's not his fault

As long as he's professional, trains properly and available for selection then he's doing nothing wrong


Totally agree. He is entitled to hold the club to his contract. My point is if Ramsdale was always likely to stay, why didn't Saints make him part of the plans? To me it was very likely that he would stay here on his 100k a week, rather than go somewhere else for a wage cut. Don't blame him at all, but having a 100k a week England international as 4th choice playing for the reserves is ridiculous.

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 00:01 - Sep 5 with 1518 viewsBridders2

window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 22:40 - Sep 4 by Southamptonfan

Totally agree. He is entitled to hold the club to his contract. My point is if Ramsdale was always likely to stay, why didn't Saints make him part of the plans? To me it was very likely that he would stay here on his 100k a week, rather than go somewhere else for a wage cut. Don't blame him at all, but having a 100k a week England international as 4th choice playing for the reserves is ridiculous.


Alfie House quoted in his recent article that Rambo had a relegation clause in his contract and his wages are greatly reduced, so the club are able to 'manage' his return to the squad.

He's probably on £60k a week. Still a lotta dough, but manageable for now.

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window shut :Ramsdale and Downes still here then and mystery injuries on 09:47 - Sep 5 with 1306 viewsjopreston

Seems very odd to me, maybe he is disruptive in some way? He has been with relegated teams many times so maybe he has an attitude. Why else put your best keeper in the reserves?
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