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Coventry 10:14 - Aug 18 with 5744 viewstoboboly

Interesting to see that they have postponed again at home, I am surprised more hasn't been made of the situation and what repercussions should be.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62575141

The situation is a mess, Wasps own the ground/pitch and Coventry rent it. But from what I have read the Commonwealth games had been booked in for years so this shouldn't have come as a surprise.

I was surprised that Wasps had bought the stadium considering Rugby clubs wouldn't have half the money/income of a football club?

Also surprised more people haven't been pushing for points docked/games moved/games surrendered. If this had been us we'd have had a massive fine and points off.

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Coventry on 10:25 - Aug 18 with 4014 viewsNorthernr

Wasps are basically bankrupt as well aren't they? On the cusp of financial collapse.

That whole stadium, the business model around it, has been a complete mess from the first day it opened.
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Coventry on 10:26 - Aug 18 with 4009 viewsMetallica_Hoop

Maybe for not much longer.

https://www.ruck.co.uk/removed-wasps-close-part-of-the-club-as-financial-woes-co

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Coventry on 10:34 - Aug 18 with 3990 viewsTheChef

Coventry on 10:25 - Aug 18 by Northernr

Wasps are basically bankrupt as well aren't they? On the cusp of financial collapse.

That whole stadium, the business model around it, has been a complete mess from the first day it opened.


I had the pleasure of attending the first ever game at the Ricoh as was. QPR charity in town to hand over a 3-0 win (Ugo Ukah's one appearance for us off the bench, heady days). Even then the stadium was just about half-finished!

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Coventry on 10:39 - Aug 18 with 3966 viewsdmm

I've been to one game at the Ricoh arena years ago and would never go back. It's the definition of an identi-kit souless bowl in the back of beyond. The sooner it's demolished the better.
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Coventry on 10:43 - Aug 18 with 3952 viewsstowmarketrange

Coventry on 10:26 - Aug 18 by Metallica_Hoop

Maybe for not much longer.

https://www.ruck.co.uk/removed-wasps-close-part-of-the-club-as-financial-woes-co


What did they with Derek Richardson as a co owner?He couldn’t keep hold of anything.One of the worst keepers we’ve ever had.Lucky we kept hold of big Phil for so long.
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Coventry on 10:45 - Aug 18 with 3938 viewsEsox_Lucius

Coventry on 10:39 - Aug 18 by dmm

I've been to one game at the Ricoh arena years ago and would never go back. It's the definition of an identi-kit souless bowl in the back of beyond. The sooner it's demolished the better.


The Tesco next store is handy if you have any shopping to do before heading home.

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Coventry on 10:46 - Aug 18 with 3924 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Shame we couldn't have postponed Tuesday's match.
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Coventry on 10:51 - Aug 18 with 3911 viewsCamberleyR

Coventry on 10:43 - Aug 18 by stowmarketrange

What did they with Derek Richardson as a co owner?He couldn’t keep hold of anything.One of the worst keepers we’ve ever had.Lucky we kept hold of big Phil for so long.


It's not the same one, Stow.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/exclusive-wasps-owner-derek

Don't know if he's anything to do with Bryan Richardson who was the Coventry chairman who had the genius idea to sell Highfield Road and move them to the Ricoh White Elephant.

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Coventry on 10:55 - Aug 18 with 3879 viewsstowmarketrange

Coventry on 10:51 - Aug 18 by CamberleyR

It's not the same one, Stow.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/exclusive-wasps-owner-derek

Don't know if he's anything to do with Bryan Richardson who was the Coventry chairman who had the genius idea to sell Highfield Road and move them to the Ricoh White Elephant.


I didn’t think it was mate,but it brought back bad memories of a terrible keeper,even worse than Tony Roberts.
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Coventry on 11:24 - Aug 18 with 3795 viewsMetallica_Hoop

Talking of stadia, I didn't realize the Stoop had been given a makeover.

"The South Stand was opened for the 2009—10 season.[1] It has new toilets, a real ale bar, the Quins Head, which sells Greene King IPA and guest ales and a club shop. The back of the stand also has a clock for the match."

'king civilized if you ask me. Which you didn't, which is fine as well.

I said before we should team up with Fullers.
[Post edited 18 Aug 2022 11:25]

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Coventry on 11:46 - Aug 18 with 3725 viewswestberksr

Coventry on 10:34 - Aug 18 by TheChef

I had the pleasure of attending the first ever game at the Ricoh as was. QPR charity in town to hand over a 3-0 win (Ugo Ukah's one appearance for us off the bench, heady days). Even then the stadium was just about half-finished!


yep; one and only time for me too.

no need to return; I miss Highfield Road (as do all of their fans, no doubt)
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Coventry on 12:04 - Aug 18 with 3672 viewsslmrstid

I did a fair bit of reading on a Coventry forum about all of this - they were none too complimentary about the Rugby Sevens games taking place on it but also know that Wasps have let the place as a whole go to rack and ruin because they can't afford the upkeep and the pitch, instead of relaying it in the summer, had massive concerts on it (The Killers and Rammstein both played there) because they are desperate for the cash.

Lots of chatter about "several tonnes of beef" scrummaging on the turf for hours on end, although Sevens isn't quite the same as regular Union, and the craziness of having 66 games in a handful of days taking place - but again the games are only 14 minutes long so it worked out at about 10/11 normal length games of rugby.

Ultimately a well kept and professionally maintained surface should have been able to cope - Ibrox Stadium had the Rugby Sevens at Glasgow 2014 and had no issues afterwards.

Its quite clear the Wasps move was ultimately disastrous, as you'd well expect when a team called "London Wasps" moves sixty odd miles north, drops the "London" from its name and thinks moving into a 32,000 seater stadium will immediately see the people of Coventry flocking to come and watch, in an area that already has well established union teams in Leicester Tigers and Northampton Saints.

The whole thing is a crazy mess and really Coventry are probably better off trying to build their own, suitably sized stadium. Much easier said than done though. The whole place is a huge white elephant.

As an aside, I'd actually really like to see football try something like Rugby Sevens and have six-a-side matches on a full size pitch in shorter games. It might actually be quite fun to watch.
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Coventry on 12:17 - Aug 18 with 3609 viewsRangersw12

Be interesting to see if the EFL step in and look to deduct points
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Coventry on 12:20 - Aug 18 with 3591 viewsNorthernr

The key mistake with the whole project from the off was Coventry City had to pay to play there, and that amount was set at a ridiculous level - I think they had to get 18,000 fans at every game just to break even, 18,000 people through the gate before you start making any money on your home games. That's insane. It always was insane. Coventry had a perfectly serviceable, slightly rundown but easily developed, ground that they owned in the middle of the town, with a capacity that was plenty big enough for them.

That;s before you even get to the horrid design and location of the place.
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Coventry on 12:30 - Aug 18 with 3546 viewsMetallica_Hoop

Just had a Look that Ricoh game was 17 years ago in 2 days.

20th August 2005. Where has the time gone.

A first and last visit for me too.

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Coventry on 12:33 - Aug 18 with 3522 viewstoboboly

Coventry on 12:20 - Aug 18 by Northernr

The key mistake with the whole project from the off was Coventry City had to pay to play there, and that amount was set at a ridiculous level - I think they had to get 18,000 fans at every game just to break even, 18,000 people through the gate before you start making any money on your home games. That's insane. It always was insane. Coventry had a perfectly serviceable, slightly rundown but easily developed, ground that they owned in the middle of the town, with a capacity that was plenty big enough for them.

That;s before you even get to the horrid design and location of the place.


Classic building a station at the stadium that cannot be used on event days *chef's kiss*

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Coventry on 12:34 - Aug 18 with 3519 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

@slmrstid

“in an area that already has well established union teams in Leicester Tigers and Northampton Saints”

Not forgetting Coventry of course!

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Coventry on 12:44 - Aug 18 with 3484 viewsRs_Holy

Coventry on 12:20 - Aug 18 by Northernr

The key mistake with the whole project from the off was Coventry City had to pay to play there, and that amount was set at a ridiculous level - I think they had to get 18,000 fans at every game just to break even, 18,000 people through the gate before you start making any money on your home games. That's insane. It always was insane. Coventry had a perfectly serviceable, slightly rundown but easily developed, ground that they owned in the middle of the town, with a capacity that was plenty big enough for them.

That;s before you even get to the horrid design and location of the place.


I'd be heartbroken looking at this if I was Coventry fan...

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Coventry on 13:16 - Aug 18 with 3381 viewsPunteR

Coventry on 12:44 - Aug 18 by Rs_Holy

I'd be heartbroken looking at this if I was Coventry fan...



What's the story why they moved?.

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Coventry on 13:18 - Aug 18 with 3378 viewsslmrstid

Coventry on 12:34 - Aug 18 by CliveWilsonSaid

@slmrstid

“in an area that already has well established union teams in Leicester Tigers and Northampton Saints”

Not forgetting Coventry of course!


Fair point - I was thinking of the top flight teams. Admit I'm not knowledgeable enough on rugby to know what level Coventry's team plays at though!
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Coventry on 13:20 - Aug 18 with 3362 viewsMrSheen

Coventry on 12:34 - Aug 18 by CliveWilsonSaid

@slmrstid

“in an area that already has well established union teams in Leicester Tigers and Northampton Saints”

Not forgetting Coventry of course!


Mrs Sheen's best friend from college is from Leamington. Her father played with David Duckham at Coventry RFC in the 60s and 70s and she's a rugby fanatic. CRFC lost their ground about the same time as City in the disaster of early professionalism, and have never been able to get much traction since. She said the response to Wasps going there was very positive from old Coventry fans like her and her friends, as well as from supporters of some of the other collapsed West Midlands clubs (eg Moseley) who could never have transferred their allegiance to a traditional rival like Leicester or Northampton.

It's not lack of local support that doomed them, its the model. Supporting much bigger squads over fewer games on Championship crowds and sponsorship at best, when your main competition is shunted around and diluted by international breaks and call-ups, can't be done without a sugar daddy with deep pockets. There seems to be a reasonable supply of punters who expect to be the one who will be holding the reins when the club game breaks through, but Wasps' ownership team have burned their stash.
[Post edited 18 Aug 2022 13:21]
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Coventry on 13:22 - Aug 18 with 3351 viewsstowmarketrange

Coventry on 13:16 - Aug 18 by PunteR

What's the story why they moved?.


A lot of teams built new grounds around that time and later on.Some were more successful than others.Coventry seems to have been one of the worst examples of a new ground becoming a millstone.
They should’ve negotiated a better deal or stayed where they were.
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Coventry on 13:26 - Aug 18 with 3329 viewsstowmarketrange

Coventry on 13:20 - Aug 18 by MrSheen

Mrs Sheen's best friend from college is from Leamington. Her father played with David Duckham at Coventry RFC in the 60s and 70s and she's a rugby fanatic. CRFC lost their ground about the same time as City in the disaster of early professionalism, and have never been able to get much traction since. She said the response to Wasps going there was very positive from old Coventry fans like her and her friends, as well as from supporters of some of the other collapsed West Midlands clubs (eg Moseley) who could never have transferred their allegiance to a traditional rival like Leicester or Northampton.

It's not lack of local support that doomed them, its the model. Supporting much bigger squads over fewer games on Championship crowds and sponsorship at best, when your main competition is shunted around and diluted by international breaks and call-ups, can't be done without a sugar daddy with deep pockets. There seems to be a reasonable supply of punters who expect to be the one who will be holding the reins when the club game breaks through, but Wasps' ownership team have burned their stash.
[Post edited 18 Aug 2022 13:21]


It was the same for the club I supported,Rosslyn Park.They were one of the most successful teams in the amateur years,but they couldn’t compete once teams went professional.
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Coventry on 13:29 - Aug 18 with 3313 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Coventry on 13:18 - Aug 18 by slmrstid

Fair point - I was thinking of the top flight teams. Admit I'm not knowledgeable enough on rugby to know what level Coventry's team plays at though!


I think they used to be a top flight club but now a second-tier mid-table Championship side.

Imagine… ;)

*Edit- Just saw Mr Sheens post
[Post edited 18 Aug 2022 13:32]

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Coventry on 13:34 - Aug 18 with 3287 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Coventry on 13:22 - Aug 18 by stowmarketrange

A lot of teams built new grounds around that time and later on.Some were more successful than others.Coventry seems to have been one of the worst examples of a new ground becoming a millstone.
They should’ve negotiated a better deal or stayed where they were.


I think they were banking on the Premiership at the time but in fact ended up in League 1 which was disaster.

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