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Salah 15:11 - Sep 1 with 6478 views

As things stand, at least, it's wonderfully refreshing to find every player DOESN'T 'have his price', despite what people in the game (and out of it) drearily try to insist. If a player is happy, not solely motivated by money (and more importantly under contract), and the club don't want to sell, you can sportswash your nation/league all you like, and it needn't matter.
Let's hope he and Liverpool set a trend!

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What do you expect from the Charlton game?

Salah on 15:25 - Sep 1 with 5413 views

Landshark

Rejecting £150 million for a 31 year old. Absolute madness.

Salah on 15:30 - Sep 1 with 5370 views

Logman

Bit naive to think that the club or player don't want to do business. Let's see what happens in the next 8 hours.

Salah on 15:41 - Sep 1 with 5277 views

QPR_Jim

Salah on 15:25 - Sep 1 by Landshark
Rejecting £150 million for a 31 year old. Absolute madness.

Yeah, good fee for his age, I'd take the money, give Palace £100m for Eze and bank £50m.

Salah on 15:44 - Sep 1 with 5232 views

Maggsinho

Salah on 15:30 - Sep 1 by Logman
Bit naive to think that the club or player don't want to do business. Let's see what happens in the next 8 hours.

The Saudi transfer window is open for another week so they could still sign him then. I'd be surprised if he hasn't left by this time next week.

Salah on 16:00 - Sep 1 with 5172 views

stainrods_elbow

Salah on 15:44 - Sep 1 by Maggsinho
The Saudi transfer window is open for another week so they could still sign him then. I'd be surprised if he hasn't left by this time next week.

So that's another handful of nails in the coffin of the game from fans who think all football is is business (rather than romance, glory, entertainment, and all those trivialities).

Neoliberals of the world unite and take over, I guess.

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What do you expect from the Charlton game?

Salah on 16:05 - Sep 1 with 5113 views

bosh67

If Salah is worth north of £150m to the Saudis then surely Willock’s hamstrings are worth £2-3m to them?

	Never knowingly right.
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Salah on 17:01 - Sep 1 with 4964 views

daveB

They should take the money, he's past his best imo

Salah on 17:29 - Sep 1 with 4852 views

Bluce_Ree

Hatred for Liverpool intensifies.

Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.

Salah on 17:41 - Sep 1 with 4830 views

Monkey_Roots

I've just binned him out of my fantasy team... he can do what he likes now.

Salah on 20:04 - Sep 1 with 4542 views

Antti_Heinola

Obviously there’s the political aspect to all this with the Saudi regime, but is what their league does any different to what Euro clubs have done to South American talent? Or what the PL has done for years to all other leagues?
Do people think players leave Rio for Middlesbrough out of a lifelong dream to play in the north east of England?

Bare bones.

Salah on 20:43 - Sep 1 with 4488 views

PunteR

Salah on 20:04 - Sep 1 by Antti_Heinola
Obviously there’s the political aspect to all this with the Saudi regime, but is what their league does any different to what Euro clubs have done to South American talent? Or what the PL has done for years to all other leagues? Do people think players leave Rio for Middlesbrough out of a lifelong dream to play in the north east of England?

Yeh

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Salah on 20:56 - Sep 1 with 4430 views

Northernr

Salah on 17:01 - Sep 1 by daveB
They should take the money, he's past his best imo

Anybody willing to pay £150m for a 31-year-old, certainly be willing to pay £200m.

Salah on 22:48 - Sep 1 with 4276 views

Toast_R

It'd quite amusing really that it's Liverpool with their holier than thou
peoples socialists, Scouse not English bluff. The players they hold in this highest regard are the ones f*cking off for the dirty dollars. Stevie G, Jordan Henderson and now Mo Salad. It's all gone quiet over there.

Salah on 22:54 - Sep 1 with 4239 views

paulparker

For all the scorn on the Saudi league I think I’ve just watched one of the best games I’ve ever seen as a neutral , the Saudi el Classico tonight was better than anything the so called premier league serves up
AL - Hilal 4 -Il -Ittihad -3
End to end doesn’t do it justice it should have been 6-6

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

Salah on 23:27 - Sep 1 with 4202 views

stainrods_elbow

Salah on 20:56 - Sep 1 by Northernr
Anybody willing to pay £150m for a 31-year-old, certainly be willing to pay £200m.

Unless the fans (those who are actually fanatics) finally revolt, soon football will reach a point of monetised Saudification where there is no point in contracts, coaches or trying to build a team of any kind. Just employ a Middle Eastern banker to supervise the movement of player-commodities, depopulate the stadia (or possibly bring back the Covid simulacra) to maximise efficiency, franchise your product around the globe, and those who still care can watch it all on their iPhone13s.

Excuse me while I go and throw up!

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What do you expect from the Charlton game?

Salah on 07:18 - Sep 2 with 4009 views

qprd

Salah on 20:04 - Sep 1 by Antti_Heinola
Obviously there’s the political aspect to all this with the Saudi regime, but is what their league does any different to what Euro clubs have done to South American talent? Or what the PL has done for years to all other leagues? Do people think players leave Rio for Middlesbrough out of a lifelong dream to play in the north east of England?

Yes, it is… bc of the sports washing element

There’s also no financial sense to paying the fees and wages they’re paying … it’s just using excess oil revenues ( inflated by the Ukraine war) to diversify their economy… Saudi cut oil supply last year to keep prices high… the world experienced mass inflation so these idiots could waste billions on footballers … the oil price will eventually dip and this league will go back to being totally irrelevant

Re your last question: Obviously there’s a money element to Brazilian players going to play in tier 2 cities in England etc …. But the premier league and European leagues are the best in the world….. it’s no different than the top actors going to LA, software engineers going to Silicon Valley or pastry chefs going to France..

Salah on 07:28 - Sep 2 with 3997 views

qprd

Salah on 23:27 - Sep 1 by stainrods_elbow

I dislike the Saudi influence as much as anyone

Having said that this has little to no effect on my enjoyment of English football

Does anyone rly care that a few random players like Jordan Henderson and firmino went to Saudi… players come and go all the time, it’s part of the fun of the league with transfers etc

And it’s not like most of these guys are going for free … if salah goes that’ll be a shame, but Liverpool will prob get 150m which they’ll then use to buy other rly good players

Football has seen this cycle many times before

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Salah on 00:10 - Sep 8 with 3626 views

stainrods_elbow

Salah on 15:30 - Sep 1 by Logman
Bit naive to think that the club or player don't want to do business. Let's see what happens in the next 8 hours.

As it turns out, my 'naivete' was vindicated, so will you and others now be humble enough to do the decent thing and reel in your patronising cynicism? Meanwhile,

Liverpool/ World Football 1
Saudi sportswashing murderers 0

[Post edited 8 Sep 2023 0:13]

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What do you expect from the Charlton game?

Salah on 00:24 - Sep 8 with 3597 views

loftupper

Salah on 00:10 - Sep 8 by stainrods_elbow
As it turns out, my 'naivete' was vindicated, so will you and others now be humble enough to do the decent thing and reel in your patronising cynicism? Meanwhile, Liverpool/ World Football 1 Saudi sportswashing murderers 0 [Post edited 8 Sep 2023 0:13]

Just shy of £13 billion worth of exports to Saudi in the last year or so. Apparently the UK's 21st largest trading partner worldwide.

I would imagine there are a few sportsman wondering why they are being singled out and judged for plying their trade when plenty of businesses are doing the same without the media attention

Salah on 06:15 - Sep 8 with 3466 views

SydneyRs

Salah on 20:04 - Sep 1 by Antti_Heinola
Obviously there’s the political aspect to all this with the Saudi regime, but is what their league does any different to what Euro clubs have done to South American talent? Or what the PL has done for years to all other leagues? Do people think players leave Rio for Middlesbrough out of a lifelong dream to play in the north east of England?

This. No different at all. After years of the prem, especially the top few, hoovering up everything with obscene amounts of money they aren't exactly justified in complaining if its all disrupted by someone else with even more money.

Blackburn obviously managed to buy a title in the 90s, but it really went next level with Chelsea from 2003, then City, more recently Newcastle.

I don't like what's starting with the Saudis now, but I haven't liked any of it since the 2003 Chelsea takeover in particular and that's all largely been celebrated.

Salah on 07:36 - Sep 8 with 3379 views

qprd

Salah on 00:24 - Sep 8 by loftupper
Just shy of £13 billion worth of exports to Saudi in the last year or so. Apparently the UK's 21st largest trading partner worldwide. I would imagine there are a few sportsman wondering why they are being singled out and judged for plying their trade when plenty of businesses are doing the same without the media attention

The 13billion you refer to includes things like tea, biscuits, services and cars….

Selling stuff to the Saudi market (ie, random citizens who have nothing to do with their brutal regime) is a lot different than selling your soul to play in a league which the govt is using to sports wash and lay the groundworks for a 2030 World Cup bid

Salah on 18:39 - Sep 8 with 3162 views

loftupper

Salah on 07:36 - Sep 8 by qprd
The 13billion you refer to includes things like tea, biscuits, services and cars…. Selling stuff to the Saudi market (ie, random citizens who have nothing to do with their brutal regime) is a lot different than selling your soul to play in a league which the govt is using to sports wash and lay the groundworks for a 2030 World Cup bid

Thats an awful lot of tea and biscuits. I would imagine that a large part of the total exports would be made up of arms sales and surveillance equipment which would very much be to support a brutal regime.

Salah on 11:09 - Sep 9 with 3002 views

NW5Hoop

Salah on 00:10 - Sep 8 by stainrods_elbow
As it turns out, my 'naivete' was vindicated, so will you and others now be humble enough to do the decent thing and reel in your patronising cynicism? Meanwhile, Liverpool/ World Football 1 Saudi sportswashing murderers 0 [Post edited 8 Sep 2023 0:13]

To be fair, it's probably because
a) They wouldn't have been able to replace him, what with our window having closed
b) Not having him would lessen chances of CL qualification
c) Two years in a row without CL would be cost more than selling Salah would gain (it's estimated Liverpool made €118m from the CL in 21/22)
d) And two years in a row without CL would lessen Liverpool's chances of being able to attract a suitable replacement for Salah.

It always comes back to money. If the Saudi offer had come in at the start of the summer, I suspect the outcome would have been different.

[Post edited 9 Sep 2023 11:10]

Salah on 12:47 - Sep 9 with 2893 views

Bluce_Ree

I too find salads wonderfully refreshing.

Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.

Salah on 16:08 - Sep 9 with 2817 views

stainrods_elbow

Salah on 11:09 - Sep 9 by NW5Hoop

[Post edited 9 Sep 2023 11:10]

Your post is about as coherent as a Devon White dribbling display: you say it all comes down to money, then concede at least three points that have nothing to do with money, all of which precisely supports my own counter-argument.

The facts are Liverpool got a crazy offer, but turned it down because the player was under contract, they didn't want him to leave, and neither did Salah, apparently. Ergo, for the last time, and as you're actually agreeing, sometimes it ISN'T all about the dough.

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What do you expect from the Charlton game?

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