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Change in style? 21:56 - Apr 21 with 2825 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Since we became mathematically safe a few weeks back, is it me or do we seem to have reverted to pish balling about at the back?
It's all a bit Warburton era knock it about for 20 passes at the back then lose it.

Is this Stephans preferred style?

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Change in style? on 21:58 - Apr 21 with 2802 viewsbosh67

I hope not. 20 pissing passes around at the back has never got us any points. We're simply niot technically good enough to do that. Not many teams are.

Never knowingly right.
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Change in style? on 22:02 - Apr 21 with 2742 viewsHunterhoop

No. It is not.

Same thing happened last season.

More youngsters getting game time too.

The club presser about Cook told us.

Company policy from on high.
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Change in style? on 22:14 - Apr 21 with 2653 views7374Ranger

That's what it looks like to me as well.

These modern coaches need their heads examining if they think we fans want to watch the ball being played our from the back like that.

Nothing wrong with the keeper playing it short to a defender to then play a forward pass and build an attack but this passing it around at the back is boring and causes havoc leading to conceding goals or scoring chances the opponents.

I only recall one or two goals or scoring chances created by QPR in about 5 seasons of them playing this way. It isn't worth it and it drives most fans crazy watching it.
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Change in style? on 22:46 - Apr 21 with 2486 viewsmart_Goblin

Yep .
We’re safe , so go back to the methodology’.

Here’s news for Nourry and De Souza ..

The method is sh*t.
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Change in style? on 22:51 - Apr 21 with 2456 viewsPaddyhoops

Marc Bircham got in spot in the recent pod he did with Jaz and Jamie .
We don’t seem to have an identity and it changes from week to week .
I’m not sure what we were trying to do tonight but a lack of desire and an ability to win any second ball seem to be the order of the day .
Depressing.
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Change in style? on 22:51 - Apr 21 with 2434 viewsWegerles_Stairs

It is quite something that I still don't know what his, or indeed his master's style, is. Tonight it seemed to be pass it back at every opportunity (the one late in the second half when we had a throw-in 20 yards out and proceeded to play it all the way back was particularly memorable) or boot it long for Burrell to chase. 45 matches (and the Plymouth game) and that's our 'style'. And there's a waiting list for season tickets lol.
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Change in style? on 22:52 - Apr 21 with 2446 viewsNorthernr

This is the game model, no?

Stephan’s style is as it was in France - variations of 442, direct into the channels, inverted wingers… When it’s ā€œmatteredā€ this season he’s gone to what he knows. When it ā€œmatteredā€ last season Cifuentes went to what he knew.

As soon as we’re ā€˜safe’ and building for next season we revert to a possession based, build from the back style which our players are painfully inadequate in, but our CEO/DOF is on record saying he wants us to play.

Shall we maybe sack another manager? Get the snake emojis out? Win another cup final with the development squad and see if it’s all different this time next year?
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Change in style? on 22:53 - Apr 21 with 2438 viewscolinallcars

Change in style? on 22:46 - Apr 21 by mart_Goblin

Yep .
We’re safe , so go back to the methodology’.

Here’s news for Nourry and De Souza ..

The method is sh*t.


Method ? Didn't work in acting let alone football.

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Change in style? on 23:14 - Apr 21 with 2354 viewsdaveB

The difference in the two sides was incredible.

Watch how Swansea played out, quick passes into midfield and into attack, trying to play balls in behind us with runners, if not get a shot in on goal. They were nothing special just very well drilled and had a gameplan which they executed. 2-1 hugely flattered us.

Our attempts were nervous passes until mid way in our half before we give it away, every single time. Usually with a blind pass played into midfield with noone there. When we had a bit of possession in their half it was slow, ponderous with no real idea of what we were trying to do. Chair made a small difference with one lovely pass to Smyth which he should have scored from but overall so poor to watch. No idea how to create a chance.

We're miles off being a good side with that midfield, been that way for 10 years now
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Change in style? on 23:22 - Apr 21 with 2303 viewsstevec

23 points from 21 games second half of season. Borderline relegation form.
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Change in style? on 23:24 - Apr 21 with 2298 viewsNorthernr

Change in style? on 23:14 - Apr 21 by daveB

The difference in the two sides was incredible.

Watch how Swansea played out, quick passes into midfield and into attack, trying to play balls in behind us with runners, if not get a shot in on goal. They were nothing special just very well drilled and had a gameplan which they executed. 2-1 hugely flattered us.

Our attempts were nervous passes until mid way in our half before we give it away, every single time. Usually with a blind pass played into midfield with noone there. When we had a bit of possession in their half it was slow, ponderous with no real idea of what we were trying to do. Chair made a small difference with one lovely pass to Smyth which he should have scored from but overall so poor to watch. No idea how to create a chance.

We're miles off being a good side with that midfield, been that way for 10 years now
[Post edited 21 Apr 23:16]


Beaten in midfield. Beaten in midfield over and over again. The space opponents have in there is unreal. You’re going to be talking 2 years soon since we last won a game with more possession than an opponent. Varane, Morgan. I genuinely feel like I’m losing my mind.
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Change in style? on 23:48 - Apr 21 with 2245 viewsdaveB

Change in style? on 23:24 - Apr 21 by Northernr

Beaten in midfield. Beaten in midfield over and over again. The space opponents have in there is unreal. You’re going to be talking 2 years soon since we last won a game with more possession than an opponent. Varane, Morgan. I genuinely feel like I’m losing my mind.


I watched on tv tonight and on Saturday and the gaps we have between midfielders you could drive a bus through it and the gap between midfeld and defence is amazing. So easy to play through, it's pretty basic stuff but we are so easy to play against most weeks. It was a genuine shambles tonight, Swansea should have won that by 4 or 5 goals.

I felt for Terry Gibson on co-comms, he used to do La Liga every week now he's watching this shit in a studio somewhere in Hounslow.
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Change in style? on 23:57 - Apr 21 with 2210 viewsHunterhoop

Change in style? on 23:24 - Apr 21 by Northernr

Beaten in midfield. Beaten in midfield over and over again. The space opponents have in there is unreal. You’re going to be talking 2 years soon since we last won a game with more possession than an opponent. Varane, Morgan. I genuinely feel like I’m losing my mind.


Sam Field is still a QPR player. The way we have treated him after 4 very good years for us is shameful. He’s far from flawless. He has the same limitations as Varane but he works so much harder, reads the game so much better, and is so much more physical. That stuff matters.

Him and Madsen in there, two 6’4’’ lads with perhaps Chair in front…it would be different.
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Change in style? on 23:59 - Apr 21 with 2199 viewsdaveB

Change in style? on 23:57 - Apr 21 by Hunterhoop

Sam Field is still a QPR player. The way we have treated him after 4 very good years for us is shameful. He’s far from flawless. He has the same limitations as Varane but he works so much harder, reads the game so much better, and is so much more physical. That stuff matters.

Him and Madsen in there, two 6’4’’ lads with perhaps Chair in front…it would be different.


Sorry mate I don't think it will be. The midfield has been crap for years and he's been in it a long time as well. He's better than Hayden, Varane and Morgan but I've seen plenty of QPR games like tonight with him in the team
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Change in style? on 00:04 - Apr 22 with 2183 viewsHunterhoop

Change in style? on 23:59 - Apr 21 by daveB

Sorry mate I don't think it will be. The midfield has been crap for years and he's been in it a long time as well. He's better than Hayden, Varane and Morgan but I've seen plenty of QPR games like tonight with him in the team


He’s not had this version of Madsen to play alongside him.

He was never the problem, the other part of the partnership was. Now that player is thriving, maybe try them together.

There aren’t all these wonderful, all round package midfielders waiting to be picked up for a song in the Championship. And we certainly have none coming through the ranks.

Sell Varane, reinvest part in another high potential young ball player, play Field with Madsen and reconsider if whether we want to lay 442 or have a 3 man midfield. Personally, I’d try the former with the right personnel before trying the latter again.
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Change in style? on 00:12 - Apr 22 with 2163 viewsmart_Goblin

Change in style? on 23:24 - Apr 21 by Northernr

Beaten in midfield. Beaten in midfield over and over again. The space opponents have in there is unreal. You’re going to be talking 2 years soon since we last won a game with more possession than an opponent. Varane, Morgan. I genuinely feel like I’m losing my mind.


ā€œBeaten in midfield. Beaten in midfield over and over againā€

When will he do something about it ?!?!

You could change the personnel but the system and the formation is all wrong .
We are outnumbered in there . Those 2 poor sods were bloody awful tonight but let’s give them a chance.
He continues to get things from wrong from the start .
Listen, the players need to grow some bollox and actually show something ,a bit of grit and desire perhaps but StĆ©phan just doesn’t seem to have any plan other than ā€œdo what we did last weekā€.

He’s starting to worry me
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Change in style? on 00:13 - Apr 22 with 2144 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Change in style? on 23:48 - Apr 21 by daveB

I watched on tv tonight and on Saturday and the gaps we have between midfielders you could drive a bus through it and the gap between midfeld and defence is amazing. So easy to play through, it's pretty basic stuff but we are so easy to play against most weeks. It was a genuine shambles tonight, Swansea should have won that by 4 or 5 goals.

I felt for Terry Gibson on co-comms, he used to do La Liga every week now he's watching this shit in a studio somewhere in Hounslow.


I don't understand this though. Anyone watching us tonight can see how easy we are to play through. Who is calling the shots? If it's Stephan, then he's clueless. If it's Nourry, then we really are screwed.

What on earth are we trying to do? Answers on a postcard please.
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Change in style? on 07:49 - Apr 22 with 1878 viewsdaveB

Change in style? on 00:04 - Apr 22 by Hunterhoop

He’s not had this version of Madsen to play alongside him.

He was never the problem, the other part of the partnership was. Now that player is thriving, maybe try them together.

There aren’t all these wonderful, all round package midfielders waiting to be picked up for a song in the Championship. And we certainly have none coming through the ranks.

Sell Varane, reinvest part in another high potential young ball player, play Field with Madsen and reconsider if whether we want to lay 442 or have a 3 man midfield. Personally, I’d try the former with the right personnel before trying the latter again.


Thats true but I'm not sure he's the answer to be honest, he's playing a lot less for Norwich now.
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Change in style? on 07:52 - Apr 22 with 1863 viewsdaveB

Change in style? on 00:13 - Apr 22 by Wegerles_Stairs

I don't understand this though. Anyone watching us tonight can see how easy we are to play through. Who is calling the shots? If it's Stephan, then he's clueless. If it's Nourry, then we really are screwed.

What on earth are we trying to do? Answers on a postcard please.


Yes I didn't understand what we were trying to do all night. It's a collective thing for me, blame should be shaered betrween players on the pitch coasting through games to the mansger to the coaching staff and everyone of the development coaches
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Change in style? on 07:59 - Apr 22 with 1840 viewsHunterhoop

Change in style? on 07:49 - Apr 22 by daveB

Thats true but I'm not sure he's the answer to be honest, he's playing a lot less for Norwich now.


He might not be. But I’d like us to try it.

If we go to 3 in midfield next season, one of Kone or Burrell doesn’t play. I suppose you could play Burrell wide, but it would be negating his biggest strengths (playing on the shoulder of the last man, and running in behind/down the channels). I’m not sure his first touch and dribbling is up to being a wide forward.

I think a big part of the reason we looked so open tonight in the middle of the park, outside of Hayden looking like his legs have gone and being in a different postcode to their players with the ball, was that we didn’t have Kone up top. He does an excellent job of dropping back in to bolster the middle of the pitch, and works incredibly hard off the ball.

We also tried to play out from the back all the time. This meant we our defence started deep to receive the ball from Walsh stretching our team from back to front across a bigger area of the pitch than when we play more directly. If the move breaks down, or we get pressed and have to go long, we lose the ball with our team spread and spaces all over the pitch.
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Change in style? on 10:12 - Apr 22 with 1703 viewsE17hoop

Change in style? on 07:59 - Apr 22 by Hunterhoop

He might not be. But I’d like us to try it.

If we go to 3 in midfield next season, one of Kone or Burrell doesn’t play. I suppose you could play Burrell wide, but it would be negating his biggest strengths (playing on the shoulder of the last man, and running in behind/down the channels). I’m not sure his first touch and dribbling is up to being a wide forward.

I think a big part of the reason we looked so open tonight in the middle of the park, outside of Hayden looking like his legs have gone and being in a different postcode to their players with the ball, was that we didn’t have Kone up top. He does an excellent job of dropping back in to bolster the middle of the pitch, and works incredibly hard off the ball.

We also tried to play out from the back all the time. This meant we our defence started deep to receive the ball from Walsh stretching our team from back to front across a bigger area of the pitch than when we play more directly. If the move breaks down, or we get pressed and have to go long, we lose the ball with our team spread and spaces all over the pitch.


We did miss Kone - no-one to hold the ball up meant it came back at speed. Kolli and Burrell both want the ball to feet or in front to run onto, and we can't play them both.

I've said before, we need a defensive midfielder who can tackle and ping the ball around. And we do have one... Ronnie Edwards. All the best passes last night came from him looking up and spreading the play. Asking him to play as a DCM next to Madsen would block up the hole in the middle of midfield.

It's always noisiest at the shallow end
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Change in style? on 11:04 - Apr 23 with 1352 viewsHarbour

Change in style? on 23:48 - Apr 21 by daveB

I watched on tv tonight and on Saturday and the gaps we have between midfielders you could drive a bus through it and the gap between midfeld and defence is amazing. So easy to play through, it's pretty basic stuff but we are so easy to play against most weeks. It was a genuine shambles tonight, Swansea should have won that by 4 or 5 goals.

I felt for Terry Gibson on co-comms, he used to do La Liga every week now he's watching this shit in a studio somewhere in Hounslow.


Derby will have a field day on Saturday hoping it’s not another embarrassing final home game of the season.That Burnley game last season was bloody awful.
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