| Warren Farm 10:13 - Nov 1 with 97970 views | connell10 |
Some one saying on WATRB that the Supreme court has thrown out the appeal placed against us and Warren Farm is a goer! Good news if true! |  |
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| Warren Farm on 00:02 - Jan 25 with 3585 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warren Farm on 21:14 - Jan 24 by Benny_the_Ball |
Hopefully being the operative word.
Since the project was announced back in 2012, QPR wasted £250million+ on PL turd, were hit with a £40million FFP fine and Mittal reduced his share from 30% to 11%. Given that infrastructure is not subject to FFP, the final legal hurdle was overcome in Q4 2018 and no work has happened since, my head tells me that something is amiss.
My heart, however, sincerely hopes that I'm wrong and you get the opportunity to tell me 'I told you so'. |
Well, I wouldn't ever say "I told you so", as I don't know! We're all just guessing, me included.What’s happening with Warren Farm?
This Dave Mc article from Nov 7 2019 is the latest update I can find, and gives hope I think. Construction due to start early 2020, it says.
"With the legal battle finally settled and QPR having been given the green light for a new training ground at Warren Farm, the next steps have involved fulfilling various pre-planning conditions.
These include things like an ecological management plan, construction and logistics plan and an archaeological service, which were all discharged last week, paving the way for building work to actually begin.
In most cases, this process would have been completed quicker. The delay is in part because it is so long — almost six years — since planning permission was initially granted.
There is now an expectation that building work will commence early next year."
https://www.westlondonsport.co |  |
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| Warren Farm on 02:26 - Jan 25 with 3549 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Warren Farm on 00:02 - Jan 25 by BrianMcCarthy |
Well, I wouldn't ever say "I told you so", as I don't know! We're all just guessing, me included.What’s happening with Warren Farm?
This Dave Mc article from Nov 7 2019 is the latest update I can find, and gives hope I think. Construction due to start early 2020, it says.
"With the legal battle finally settled and QPR having been given the green light for a new training ground at Warren Farm, the next steps have involved fulfilling various pre-planning conditions.
These include things like an ecological management plan, construction and logistics plan and an archaeological service, which were all discharged last week, paving the way for building work to actually begin.
In most cases, this process would have been completed quicker. The delay is in part because it is so long — almost six years — since planning permission was initially granted.
There is now an expectation that building work will commence early next year."
https://www.westlondonsport.co |
Thanks for that, Brian. As the old adage goes, time will tell. Interesting that QPR are looking at other means of financing the project, including a bond issue. Given that spending on infrastructure is exempt from FFP and ultimately the owners (as shareholders) will benefit from this asset, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to pay the lion's share. |  | | |
| Warren Farm on 09:22 - Jan 25 with 3455 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warren Farm on 02:26 - Jan 25 by Benny_the_Ball |
Thanks for that, Brian. As the old adage goes, time will tell. Interesting that QPR are looking at other means of financing the project, including a bond issue. Given that spending on infrastructure is exempt from FFP and ultimately the owners (as shareholders) will benefit from this asset, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to pay the lion's share. |
Completely agree, Benny. | |
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| Warren Farm on 09:32 - Jan 25 with 3432 views | QPR_Jim |
| Warren Farm on 02:26 - Jan 25 by Benny_the_Ball |
Thanks for that, Brian. As the old adage goes, time will tell. Interesting that QPR are looking at other means of financing the project, including a bond issue. Given that spending on infrastructure is exempt from FFP and ultimately the owners (as shareholders) will benefit from this asset, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to pay the lion's share. |
I was under the impression that the bond issue was intended as an alternative to borrowing from banks and would have covered a fraction of the cost rather than the lions share.
Either way we need the training ground, so I don't care how they fund it at this point so long as they start building it. |  | | |
| Warren Farm on 15:13 - Jan 25 with 3237 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Warren Farm on 09:32 - Jan 25 by QPR_Jim |
I was under the impression that the bond issue was intended as an alternative to borrowing from banks and would have covered a fraction of the cost rather than the lions share.
Either way we need the training ground, so I don't care how they fund it at this point so long as they start building it. |
Why on earth do they need to borrow from banks? They're good for it and will benefit when they eventually sell the club. I want a training ground as much as the next man but without hamstringing the club. "I don't care how they fund it" is the kind of mantra that landed QPR with a hefty FFP fine. | | | |
| Warren Farm on 21:25 - Jan 25 with 2998 views | QPR_Jim |
| Warren Farm on 15:13 - Jan 25 by Benny_the_Ball |
Why on earth do they need to borrow from banks? They're good for it and will benefit when they eventually sell the club. I want a training ground as much as the next man but without hamstringing the club. "I don't care how they fund it" is the kind of mantra that landed QPR with a hefty FFP fine. |
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| Warren Farm on 21:30 - Jan 25 with 2988 views | LythamR |
| Warren Farm on 15:13 - Jan 25 by Benny_the_Ball |
Why on earth do they need to borrow from banks? They're good for it and will benefit when they eventually sell the club. I want a training ground as much as the next man but without hamstringing the club. "I don't care how they fund it" is the kind of mantra that landed QPR with a hefty FFP fine. |
Rich people tend to not use their own money unless they have to |  | | |
| Warren Farm on 00:20 - Jan 26 with 2859 views | PunteR |
| Warren Farm on 21:30 - Jan 25 by LythamR |
Rich people tend to not use their own money unless they have to |
Except when they buy footballers. hmm |  |
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| Warren Farm on 13:07 - Jan 26 with 2685 views | QPR_John |
| Warren Farm on 15:13 - Jan 25 by Benny_the_Ball |
Why on earth do they need to borrow from banks? They're good for it and will benefit when they eventually sell the club. I want a training ground as much as the next man but without hamstringing the club. "I don't care how they fund it" is the kind of mantra that landed QPR with a hefty FFP fine. |
But in the case of financing a training ground FFP does not come into it |  | | |
| Warren Farm on 01:18 - Jan 27 with 2499 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Warren Farm on 21:30 - Jan 25 by LythamR |
Rich people tend to not use their own money unless they have to |
Didn't stop them spunking £250million on PL prima donnas. | | | |
| Warren Farm on 01:19 - Jan 27 with 2498 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Warren Farm on 13:07 - Jan 26 by QPR_John |
But in the case of financing a training ground FFP does not come into it |
Which is why they can fund it rather than look at alternate options like bonds or loans which would just put the club into further debt (albeit ignored when calculating FFP). [Post edited 27 Jan 2020 1:22]
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| Warren Farm on 09:18 - Feb 11 with 2778 views | R_from_afar |
Please, please, please let this not be true  :
neil flynn
@neilflynn61
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21h
Replying to
@shiftyQPR
@Tonyryan111
and 5 others
Was told last week (can’t prove) that they’re on the verge of scrapping Warren Farm and redeveloping Harlington!
As environmental impact study which should have been done earlier will take two years!
https://twitter.com/search?q=%
*If* this is true there will meltdown, and not just because of the broken dreams and betrayal of the fans, but also because of the sheer incompetence. *If* it's true. Let's pray that it's not. |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Warren Farm on 09:28 - Feb 11 with 2733 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warren Farm on 09:18 - Feb 11 by R_from_afar |
Please, please, please let this not be true :
neil flynn
@neilflynn61
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21h
Replying to
@shiftyQPR
@Tonyryan111
and 5 others
Was told last week (can’t prove) that they’re on the verge of scrapping Warren Farm and redeveloping Harlington!
As environmental impact study which should have been done earlier will take two years!
https://twitter.com/search?q=%
*If* this is true there will meltdown, and not just because of the broken dreams and betrayal of the fans, but also because of the sheer incompetence. *If* it's true. Let's pray that it's not. |
Who is saying this? Trusted source? | |
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| Warren Farm on 09:34 - Feb 11 with 2703 views | R_from_afar |
| Warren Farm on 09:28 - Feb 11 by BrianMcCarthy |
Who is saying this? Trusted source? |
It's "just" a fan, Brain, Neil Flynn, who describes himself as "QPR season ticket holder and grumpy dad to my boys. Also Green Badge licenced Taxi Driver". It might be a load of nonsense, I certainly hope that's the case! | |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Warren Farm on 09:35 - Feb 11 with 2698 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warren Farm on 09:34 - Feb 11 by R_from_afar |
It's "just" a fan, Brain, Neil Flynn, who describes himself as "QPR season ticket holder and grumpy dad to my boys. Also Green Badge licenced Taxi Driver". It might be a load of nonsense, I certainly hope that's the case! |
Well, hopefully.
Thanks anyway. | |
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| Warren Farm on 09:56 - Feb 11 with 2613 views | Hooparoo |
Let’s hope it is BS but if true, it would explain a lot about the lack of action etc. |  |
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| Warren Farm on 09:56 - Feb 11 with 2609 views | Lblock |
NO COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |  |
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| Warren Farm on 10:22 - Feb 11 with 2551 views | connell10 |
| Warren Farm on 09:18 - Feb 11 by R_from_afar |
Please, please, please let this not be true :
neil flynn
@neilflynn61
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21h
Replying to
@shiftyQPR
@Tonyryan111
and 5 others
Was told last week (can’t prove) that they’re on the verge of scrapping Warren Farm and redeveloping Harlington!
As environmental impact study which should have been done earlier will take two years!
https://twitter.com/search?q=%
*If* this is true there will meltdown, and not just because of the broken dreams and betrayal of the fans, but also because of the sheer incompetence. *If* it's true. Let's pray that it's not. |
Could be a runway through the middle of Harlington soon so doubt they will do anything there! | |
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| Warren Farm on 10:27 - Feb 11 with 2527 views | Rs_Holy |
| Warren Farm on 10:22 - Feb 11 by connell10 |
Could be a runway through the middle of Harlington soon so doubt they will do anything there! |
that's the bit I noticed immediately too! |  | | |
| Warren Farm on 10:29 - Feb 11 with 2517 views | BostonR |
| Warren Farm on 09:18 - Feb 11 by R_from_afar |
Please, please, please let this not be true :
neil flynn
@neilflynn61
·
21h
Replying to
@shiftyQPR
@Tonyryan111
and 5 others
Was told last week (can’t prove) that they’re on the verge of scrapping Warren Farm and redeveloping Harlington!
As environmental impact study which should have been done earlier will take two years!
https://twitter.com/search?q=%
*If* this is true there will meltdown, and not just because of the broken dreams and betrayal of the fans, but also because of the sheer incompetence. *If* it's true. Let's pray that it's not. |
Unless I am mistaken, R's do not own Harlington. Any proposal to re-develop would be subject to agreement from the owners, local authorities and don't forget the third runway at Heathrow will heavily impact that parcel of land. |  | | |
| Warren Farm on 10:31 - Feb 11 with 2501 views | CroydonCaptJack |
Would explain the inactivity.
That could be a hat that remains uneaten then. |  |
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| Warren Farm on 10:37 - Feb 11 with 2477 views | R_from_afar |
| Warren Farm on 10:29 - Feb 11 by BostonR |
Unless I am mistaken, R's do not own Harlington. Any proposal to re-develop would be subject to agreement from the owners, local authorities and don't forget the third runway at Heathrow will heavily impact that parcel of land. |
I had forgotten about the third runway's impact on Harlington but I, like you, was under the strong impression that we do not own Harlington.
Re. that runway, I am no expert but a quick search seems to suggest that Harlington is just outside the compulsory purchase zone. | |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Warren Farm on 10:40 - Feb 11 with 2459 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warren Farm on 10:22 - Feb 11 by connell10 |
Could be a runway through the middle of Harlington soon so doubt they will do anything there! |
Low-flying planes explaining us keeping the ball on the deck of late? | |
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| Warren Farm on 10:53 - Feb 11 with 2404 views | R_from_afar |
| Warren Farm on 09:56 - Feb 11 by Lblock |
NO COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
I suspect you really don't want to be proved correct  | |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Warren Farm on 10:53 - Feb 11 with 2399 views | PunteR |
| Warren Farm on 10:40 - Feb 11 by BrianMcCarthy |
Low-flying planes explaining us keeping the ball on the deck of late? |
Haha.. Makes sense. | |
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