| The stench of complacency 17:20 - Feb 1 with 5498 views | slmrstid |
In the car leaving LR...need my rant.
The place stinks of complacency, not from the players, those who run this club.
I feel for Warburton, he's been put in an absolutely impossible situation for the rest of the season. Any bad result, he'll cop the blame, yet its the board of this club who have left him with a paper thin squad with just 2 strikers, basically phoning in the rest of the season, hoping we'll fluke our way to safety (we can get sucked in so easy, our 2/3 month form is dreadful). Meanwhile us lot who work 40+ hour weejs are expected to keep parting with our hard earned, and a much greater % of our income than any board member going.
Very much giving the impression we are having everything flogged off and trying to get whatever money out they can whilst they can.
Fernandes and his ilk have been an absolute disgrace to this club.
I hate being negative, but as a fan I am furious with those who run our club, and actually feel for the management and playing staff.
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| The stench of complacency on 20:49 - Feb 1 with 1528 views | StreathamRanger |
The way I saw it, they stopped pressing us as they were vulnerable to the ball over the top due to the wind just as we were in the first half. |  | | |
| The stench of complacency on 21:26 - Feb 1 with 1446 views | ozexile |
That's what happens when you sub consciously let the players know that some games can be sacked off ie cup games. It's very very hard to get them mentally back on track. | | | |
| The stench of complacency on 21:30 - Feb 1 with 1433 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| The stench of complacency on 21:26 - Feb 1 by ozexile |
That's what happens when you sub consciously let the players know that some games can be sacked off ie cup games. It's very very hard to get them mentally back on track. |
I was annoyed about the FA Cup game but I honestly didn't see any lack of effort today at all. |  |
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| The stench of complacency on 21:37 - Feb 1 with 1415 views | enfieldargh |
| The stench of complacency on 19:49 - Feb 1 by StreathamRanger |
Being at the game, you got a real feel for how much the wind dictated the game. It was so hard to go long or run in behind them in the first half as the ball would just hold up in the wind if you tried to go over the top. As a result BC were able to play much higher up the pitch and put us under pressure.
Pretty much the exact same thing happened the other way around in the second half we just couldn't quite get the ball in the net.
That's how I saw it from behind the goal in the Lower Loft although the bloody crossbar kept blocking my line of sight. |
so the players were having to deal with a strong wind which I actually forgot about tucked into my seat in SAR.
Makes you wonder why Grant Hall decided to flight a ball across the pitch to eze which got held up in the wind, allowed BC to break , cross & score |  |
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| The stench of complacency on 21:43 - Feb 1 with 1397 views | StreathamRanger |
It was a poor ball, followed by an excellent cross and a bloody good header. A moment of quality which was ultimately the difference between the two sides. Let's hope we capitalise on some of our opponents errors in our games coming up. No lack of effort from any of our players from where I was sitting. | | | |
| The stench of complacency on 22:00 - Feb 1 with 1353 views | qprxtc |
First half : we were crap, barely a football team at all. Bristol City were better at everything and should have been more than 1-0 up.
Second half: we were better but still not much cop, Bristol City were never under serious threat until the 86th minute. Who cares.
Bristol City were the better team and easily deserved their win.
That’s that. [Post edited 1 Feb 2020 22:02]
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| The stench of complacency on 22:39 - Feb 1 with 1263 views | BlackCrowe |
We played most of the first 80 minutes like we were defending a 1-0 lead in stoppage time. Seemed like as soon as we got into the final third we'd find a way to work it back it Kelly. [Post edited 1 Feb 2020 22:39]
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| The stench of complacency on 01:13 - Feb 2 with 1153 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| The stench of complacency on 19:23 - Feb 1 by paulparker |
Disagree
The wind had nothing to do with them miss placing passes and being a yard off the pace
I’ve lost count the amount of games we have started at a snails pace
We didn’t deserve anything today we didn’t start playing until the 80 minute |
I agree with paulparker on this one its just becoming an regular occurrence and infurating to the fans both at LR and sitting at keyboards waiting for Brian to type "get in " or blue flashing images on the official site .We just do not start the games with enough passion ,heart ,drive or are just not motivated from the kick off .That has to land squarely on the manager and his coaches IMO.Its like groundhog day almost every game ,we give up the first goal or even 2 then raise the tempo late to try and salvage a point.Having heart attack pressure late and still getting nothing just makes everybody more upset.At least go balls out from the 46 minute on and give loyal fans something to take home . |  | | |
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| The stench of complacency on 08:23 - Feb 2 with 1078 views | FrankRightguard |
| The stench of complacency on 19:49 - Feb 1 by StreathamRanger |
Being at the game, you got a real feel for how much the wind dictated the game. It was so hard to go long or run in behind them in the first half as the ball would just hold up in the wind if you tried to go over the top. As a result BC were able to play much higher up the pitch and put us under pressure.
Pretty much the exact same thing happened the other way around in the second half we just couldn't quite get the ball in the net.
That's how I saw it from behind the goal in the Lower Loft although the bloody crossbar kept blocking my line of sight. |
Exactly my view from the upper. Wind played a huge part in the game. |  | | |
| The stench of complacency on 08:55 - Feb 2 with 1026 views | gazza1 |
| The stench of complacency on 19:08 - Feb 1 by slmrstid |
I was more than happy with our summer but I cant accept 'being run properly ' is attempting to shift every player going with zero apparent intention for any incomings.
(Or any development elsewhere come to that, training ground, stadium etc...) |
I am sure there is 'stuff' going on in the background re the stadium and training ground, etc, off the pitch basically but you cant build stadiums without cash and sadly we are lacking in that area.
As far as the playing side and this transfer window in particular......what has been done wrong?? We got rid of a CB that is costing, perhaps, £20k per week and realistically is no better than players earning half that amount (Good business imho), Wells was just too expensive, end of story, the two loans we sent back were not playing and were probably a 'punt' that did not work out because they were not good enough. All good business as far as I am concerned. We brought in Clark to see if he fits and brought back QPR players who were out on loan to give them a chance I presume. Good business again. | | | |
| The stench of complacency on 09:05 - Feb 2 with 1007 views | Pikey |
100% in agreement | | | |
| The stench of complacency on 09:09 - Feb 2 with 996 views | StreathamRanger |
You've hit the nail on the head there Gazza. | | | |
| The stench of complacency on 09:35 - Feb 2 with 916 views | DejR_vu |
| The stench of complacency on 08:55 - Feb 2 by gazza1 |
I am sure there is 'stuff' going on in the background re the stadium and training ground, etc, off the pitch basically but you cant build stadiums without cash and sadly we are lacking in that area.
As far as the playing side and this transfer window in particular......what has been done wrong?? We got rid of a CB that is costing, perhaps, £20k per week and realistically is no better than players earning half that amount (Good business imho), Wells was just too expensive, end of story, the two loans we sent back were not playing and were probably a 'punt' that did not work out because they were not good enough. All good business as far as I am concerned. We brought in Clark to see if he fits and brought back QPR players who were out on loan to give them a chance I presume. Good business again. |
I think the fanbase would continue to be patient ( I think, by and large, we’ve all been incredibly patient given the mess the owners have gotten the club into) if there was a glimmer of hope.
We’ve had close to 10 years of bullsh1t and spin from the owners designed to keep the fanbase on side due to the abject failure they’ve inflicted. They’ve delivered absolutely nothing tangible in their entire time here. They kept saying how important the training ground was, how they were ready to roll if it wasn’t for those pesky kids at Save Warren Farm, and yet when we get the final legal obstacle out of the way, nothing. No progress, no explanation. You can understand people questioning whether SWF was a very convenient distraction and it was all just another example of their BS. If not, tell us, whatever it is can’t be that sensitive can it? Or don’t tell us and we’ll have to draw our own conclusions.
The general consensus seems to be that Leistner’s wages were too expensive to wear, so he’s been bundled out the door to get him off the payroll. He was signed on the DoFs watch, a DoF who was brought into to get our house in order to stop the owners’ pants being pulled down. If we can’t afford those wages why was the contract handed out?
I don’t know, maybe the owners have finally learned lessons having banged on about it for years. Maybe the DoF has made all his mistakes learning on the job and gets it. Or maybe until they’re all gone we’ll just continue on this downward spiral into the abyss.
Absolutely massive Summer coming up. It could 100% make or break the club. [Post edited 2 Feb 2020 9:38]
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| The stench of complacency on 10:46 - Feb 2 with 857 views | bosh67 |
| The stench of complacency on 19:23 - Feb 1 by paulparker |
Disagree
The wind had nothing to do with them miss placing passes and being a yard off the pace
I’ve lost count the amount of games we have started at a snails pace
We didn’t deserve anything today we didn’t start playing until the 80 minute |
There is a pattern. If we start slowly or get pushed back early we tend to lose. There seems to be an element of a lack of belief in some games and we get punished for it. Start on the front foot and we usually go on to dominate and win games. We have to come out and simply go for teams. Our purple patch earlier in the season was littered with mistakes but we started fast and went for the throat. We still have enough players with pace to do that. |  |
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| The stench of complacency on 11:06 - Feb 2 with 822 views | DejR_vu |
| The stench of complacency on 10:46 - Feb 2 by bosh67 |
There is a pattern. If we start slowly or get pushed back early we tend to lose. There seems to be an element of a lack of belief in some games and we get punished for it. Start on the front foot and we usually go on to dominate and win games. We have to come out and simply go for teams. Our purple patch earlier in the season was littered with mistakes but we started fast and went for the throat. We still have enough players with pace to do that. |
At the beginning of the season the players that were capable of inflicting damage were, by and large, unknown quantities. No one would have paid any attention to Chair, they wouldn’t have seen anything in BOS to have been unduly worried about, Eze was capable but inconsistent, and Wells was a decent but not outstanding striker. Since then clubs, Cardiff apart (but that’s no surprise with Neil Harris in charge), have worked out what makes us tick and come with a game plan to snuff them out. It’s not that we don’t want to do these things, the opposition is better set up to stop us. We had 70%+ possession yesterday, one shot on target.
Away from home the onus is on the home team so they have to approach things differently, hence our ability for those players to exploit the situation sometimes.
With Wells gone, he’s taken away our ability to convert chances. MW was always claiming our problem wasn’t being clinical with the chances we carve out, it’s going to get a whole lot worse and the struggle’s only going to intensify. | |
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| The stench of complacency on 11:14 - Feb 2 with 809 views | Rangersw12 |
| The stench of complacency on 11:06 - Feb 2 by DejR_vu |
At the beginning of the season the players that were capable of inflicting damage were, by and large, unknown quantities. No one would have paid any attention to Chair, they wouldn’t have seen anything in BOS to have been unduly worried about, Eze was capable but inconsistent, and Wells was a decent but not outstanding striker. Since then clubs, Cardiff apart (but that’s no surprise with Neil Harris in charge), have worked out what makes us tick and come with a game plan to snuff them out. It’s not that we don’t want to do these things, the opposition is better set up to stop us. We had 70%+ possession yesterday, one shot on target.
Away from home the onus is on the home team so they have to approach things differently, hence our ability for those players to exploit the situation sometimes.
With Wells gone, he’s taken away our ability to convert chances. MW was always claiming our problem wasn’t being clinical with the chances we carve out, it’s going to get a whole lot worse and the struggle’s only going to intensify. |
Bristol are a better side than us and you could easily see that but we still deserved a point so not all doom and gloom yet
Wells missed a sitter for them which was expected seeing how many he missed for us | | | |
| The stench of complacency on 12:21 - Feb 2 with 778 views | nix |
| The stench of complacency on 11:14 - Feb 2 by Rangersw12 |
Bristol are a better side than us and you could easily see that but we still deserved a point so not all doom and gloom yet
Wells missed a sitter for them which was expected seeing how many he missed for us |
Exactly we did deserve a point. One shot on target is a stat but doesn't represent the entire performance: they were wetting themselves at the end and we really looked like the only side that was going to score. They survived mainly by pulling over or pushing our players in the box, as it became clear that the ref was never going to give us a pen. Or fouling Ebs or BOS on the break as it was equally clear he wasn't going to book their players. We also had a shed load of blocked shots, which was largely down to them defending well and in numbers at the end. |  | | |
| The stench of complacency on 13:10 - Feb 2 with 751 views | FrankRightguard |
| The stench of complacency on 12:21 - Feb 2 by nix |
Exactly we did deserve a point. One shot on target is a stat but doesn't represent the entire performance: they were wetting themselves at the end and we really looked like the only side that was going to score. They survived mainly by pulling over or pushing our players in the box, as it became clear that the ref was never going to give us a pen. Or fouling Ebs or BOS on the break as it was equally clear he wasn't going to book their players. We also had a shed load of blocked shots, which was largely down to them defending well and in numbers at the end. |
I think the reaction of the Bristol City players at the final whistle said all you needed to know about the efforts of our players, especially in the last half hour. | | | |
| The stench of complacency on 13:15 - Feb 2 with 742 views | kensalriser |
I thought we were mostly a bit crap yesterday.
Back to the slow, ponderous build up play that plagued our performances before Warburton, no urgency, and a lack of ability and desire to get in behind. Even promising breaks were slowed down allowing the opposition to get back in position. Like Blackburn, City controlled the midfield. Bright was very quiet and looked totally unwilling to even try to get past his man, who must have been Usain Bolt. Eze was largely ineffective. Once again we were easily edged out of a game by a competent but in no way outstanding Championship side. |  |
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| The stench of complacency on 13:56 - Feb 2 with 709 views | gazza1 |
Finally, on the subject.......we did not loose any 1st team regulars or 'our up and coming' youngsters in this transfer window which is the exact opposite to complacency - could not of been easy.
We lost 1 key player that was going to happen once money of that amount gets spoken about. I'm disappointed that he went but 'hey-ho'. I say.....lets move on and see what MW comes up with.
& sod the new stadium and training ground until the club are in a more stable situation, lets just go to the Rangers and enjoy the football, winning more than we loose hopefully watching entertaining football which is what I have been doing fairly often this season. | | | |
| The stench of complacency on 15:53 - Feb 2 with 610 views | johncharles |
Perhaps, just perhaps if we hadn't all decided that losing Wells to Bristols that we inevitably lose. Getting our excuses in early. We could have won that game. |  |
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