| Dieng 18:43 - Feb 6 with 16874 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Dropped two balls today and he was still excellent.
Our best goalie since Seaman?
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| Dieng on 08:07 - Feb 7 with 1976 views | ozexile |
| Dieng on 19:42 - Feb 6 by Gloucs_R |
Since Seaman, here would be my picks...
Stejskal
Smithies
Dieng
Kenny
Camp
Cerny
Green
Day
Sommer [Post edited 6 Feb 2021 19:44]
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Sommer? I'd have Nicky Johns over him, and Johns was poor. |  | | |
| Dieng on 08:21 - Feb 7 with 1951 views | Gloucs_R |
| Dieng on 08:07 - Feb 7 by ozexile |
Sommer? I'd have Nicky Johns over him, and Johns was poor. |
To be fair, I was struggling at that stage.
Our other keepers were...
Cullin
Roberts
Cesar
Jones
Royce
Harper
Dijkstra
Miklosko
Rossi, yep, didn't remember him either
Cole, who is now with my local team Gloucester city
Ikeme
McCarthy
Murphy
Lumley
Kelly
Ingram
Digby |  |
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| Dieng on 08:29 - Feb 7 with 1933 views | Gloucs_R |
| Dieng on 20:41 - Feb 6 by GloryHunter |
Smithies did have an incredible knack with penalties. Which Seny has yet to add to his CV. |
don't forget that goalkeepers had a lot more freedom to save penalties back then. Now they basically have to stand on the spot before it's kicked. Almost impossible. | |
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| Dieng on 08:43 - Feb 7 with 1908 views | Hoopstar |
| Dieng on 08:21 - Feb 7 by Gloucs_R |
To be fair, I was struggling at that stage.
Our other keepers were...
Cullin
Roberts
Cesar
Jones
Royce
Harper
Dijkstra
Miklosko
Rossi, yep, didn't remember him either
Cole, who is now with my local team Gloucester city
Ikeme
McCarthy
Murphy
Lumley
Kelly
Ingram
Digby |
It's funny looking back at that list and the sheer number of players I've almost forgotten...
I always liked Simon Royce - obviously not in the league of others being discussed here but memory is always of him doing a decent job in a bad team.
Abiding memory of Fraser Digby is sitting right behind him for the penalty shoot out against the mighty Vauxhall Motors and him barely bothering to dive or attempt to save any of their penalties...can't remember if he ever did anything good for us.
Looking at McCarthy who has been first choice at Soton for a while now unless I'm mistaken, obviously didn't get much of a look-in here but it certainly seems Dieng has a little more about him.. |  | | |
| Dieng on 09:25 - Feb 7 with 1854 views | Bushman |
We also had Chris Woods who’s worth a mention.
Out of interest what did Troy Deeney call him a c nut after the penalty?
Didn’t see anything between them leading up to it.
Thought that was nasty esp considering he’s a young pro in his first season |  |
| I know almost nothing about the Premier League even though I try to catch the big games every now and then at the end of the season. But I will say this, Queens Park Rangers is just a fukking sick ass team name. Just sounds so cool. |
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| Dieng on 09:35 - Feb 7 with 1836 views | Addinall |
For those of us of an age don't forget Reg Allen!
OK not post Seaman but the very long lists on here caused me to recall my boyhood hero. [Post edited 7 Feb 2021 9:39]
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| Dieng on 09:44 - Feb 7 with 1826 views | Pey |
Can't stop thinking how much difference Sieng would have made in last season.
i know you win and lose as a team but Lumley cost us a fair amount of points. Could we have made the play offs ?
Maybe Warbs had not enough time to have a good look at him in pre season he arrived.
Of all the keepers mentioned i miss an honourable mention of Radek Cerny.
Back up keeper granted but reliable when asked for. |  | | |
| Dieng on 10:23 - Feb 7 with 1789 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Dieng on 21:51 - Feb 6 by bakerloo8 |
Every player has his price. Sad but true. |
It's CEOs, DoFs and boards who DECIDE to sell, sometimes against managers' wishes - always has been. Also, last time I checked, the rules hadn't changed and players aren't moved on against their will, so it partly also hinges on a player buying into a club's future for more than five minutes. That kind of forward-thinking is how all decent and successful squads are still built, which is why I quote Beckett (who was actually more of a cricket man) in explaining that 'the essential doesn't change', FFS or no FFS. |  |
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| Dieng on 10:33 - Feb 7 with 1774 views | ngbqpr |
Seconding aston in the Smithies love. Way more than just a penalty specialist - a points-saving keeper.
I always thought Lee Harper was pretty sound - not a ‘great’ but a reliable keeper. |  |
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| Dieng on 10:43 - Feb 7 with 1743 views | timcocking |
80 million to Barce would be a fair price... |  | | |
| Dieng on 10:53 - Feb 7 with 1735 views | bakerloo8 |
| Dieng on 10:23 - Feb 7 by stainrods_elbow |
It's CEOs, DoFs and boards who DECIDE to sell, sometimes against managers' wishes - always has been. Also, last time I checked, the rules hadn't changed and players aren't moved on against their will, so it partly also hinges on a player buying into a club's future for more than five minutes. That kind of forward-thinking is how all decent and successful squads are still built, which is why I quote Beckett (who was actually more of a cricket man) in explaining that 'the essential doesn't change', FFS or no FFS. |
Injuries, lack of form etc dictate that if the money is there for a player we will sell, and as a club our ethos is to find players and sell at a profit rinse and repeat this is how it will be until we have a team that's capable of challenging.
I know u will say that if you keep selling your best players how will u have a team good enough to promote? Ask Brentford. |  | | |
| Dieng on 11:22 - Feb 7 with 1700 views | BostonR |
Player of the season at the moment - simply outstanding. Will go to a big club in England or Europe eventually for a big fee.
How long before opposing teams start targeting free-kicks and corners to the near pos,t given he comes and claims almost everything launched into the six-yard box and beyond? I have no doubt he will manage anything thrown at him.
Just brilliant at the moment. |  | | |
| Dieng on 11:27 - Feb 7 with 1679 views | Gloucs_R |
Butland went for a million, a couple of years after being touted for £20m.
The value of a keeper is fragile. For a club like us, we need to sell when it's at it's highest. The fact that he speaks German and English opens up so many opportunities for him. | |
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| Dieng on 11:40 - Feb 7 with 1645 views | GloryHunter |
| Dieng on 09:25 - Feb 7 by Bushman |
We also had Chris Woods who’s worth a mention.
Out of interest what did Troy Deeney call him a c nut after the penalty?
Didn’t see anything between them leading up to it.
Thought that was nasty esp considering he’s a young pro in his first season |
I imagine Deeny was trying to rattle him, and put him off his game. Clearly didn't work. |  | | |
| Dieng on 11:42 - Feb 7 with 1647 views | nix |
| Dieng on 11:22 - Feb 7 by BostonR |
Player of the season at the moment - simply outstanding. Will go to a big club in England or Europe eventually for a big fee.
How long before opposing teams start targeting free-kicks and corners to the near pos,t given he comes and claims almost everything launched into the six-yard box and beyond? I have no doubt he will manage anything thrown at him.
Just brilliant at the moment. |
What do we think is the price ceiling for a goalie? Personally I think the top ones are undervalued. Except for the £72 million Kepa, who doesn't even play, lol! |  | | |
| Dieng on 12:32 - Feb 7 with 1603 views | CamberleyR |
| Dieng on 22:43 - Feb 6 by Toast_R |
Someone explain Stejskal for me?
I thought he was ok but anyone who ends up second fiddle to Tony Roberts must have had some serious issues.
My third Rangers game was at home to Wimbledon 92/93 season. Stejskal came on for an injured Roberts in the second half and then flapped at a ball into the box where a looping Robbie Earl header done him all ends up. I remember a lot of QPR fans berating him on the loft. [Post edited 6 Feb 2021 22:45]
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I think Roberts getting selected over Stejskal says more about Gerry Francis to be honest rather than Big Jan. I love Gerry for what he did with us as player and manager but could never understand his blind spot with Roberts.
If Gerry didn't overly trust Stejskal, he should have signed a keeper he did rather than fill in with Coco the Clown. We would have probably finished higher in both the 92/93 and 93/94 seasons had he not been played in goal as much by Gerry. |  |
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| Dieng on 12:40 - Feb 7 with 1586 views | CamberleyR |
| Dieng on 11:27 - Feb 7 by Gloucs_R |
Butland went for a million, a couple of years after being touted for £20m.
The value of a keeper is fragile. For a club like us, we need to sell when it's at it's highest. The fact that he speaks German and English opens up so many opportunities for him. |
That can be traced back to the very bad injury he picked up playing for England in Germany in 2016. Back then he was looking like he was going to be England's keeper for a long time. I think It badly affected his confidence and he hasn't been the same player since. | |
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| Dieng on 13:58 - Feb 7 with 1512 views | Gloucs_R |
| Dieng on 12:40 - Feb 7 by CamberleyR |
That can be traced back to the very bad injury he picked up playing for England in Germany in 2016. Back then he was looking like he was going to be England's keeper for a long time. I think It badly affected his confidence and he hasn't been the same player since. |
To some extent, Lumley and Villa | |
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| Dieng on 14:23 - Feb 7 with 1479 views | CamberleyR |
| Dieng on 13:58 - Feb 7 by Gloucs_R |
To some extent, Lumley and Villa |
True. | |
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| Dieng on 05:30 - Feb 8 with 1358 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Dieng on 10:53 - Feb 7 by bakerloo8 |
Injuries, lack of form etc dictate that if the money is there for a player we will sell, and as a club our ethos is to find players and sell at a profit rinse and repeat this is how it will be until we have a team that's capable of challenging.
I know u will say that if you keep selling your best players how will u have a team good enough to promote? Ask Brentford. |
I'm not saying we should never sell anyone, obviously - even a fan like me who supports a team rather than the 'football business 'doesn't live in Never-Never Land. Though it's sad that the culture of the game - aided and abetted by fans' neoliberal 'buy-in' - means that we're unlikely to see QPR breed loyal heroes like Alan McDonald, Danny Maddix and Kevin Gallen again. For a club with a small fan-base like ours, the opportunity lost to excite young fans to stay with us too by encouraging and rewarding loyalty is far more considerable than at say Manure or the Scum, who basically field a carousel of imported international stars for the most part. Of course, if I call Hoos out on that at the next Fans' Forum, he's likely to have nothing to say.
Re your optimistic statement that we just need to be traders till we're successful, I give you (once again) QPR under Thompson in the mid-1990s. What do you base your great hopes on here? There isn't some sort of transcendental distinction between the self-destructive asset-stripping of that blighted era and replacing the like of Eze, Hugill and Wells with Dykes and hoping for the best. The arrival of promising players like Dieng, Willock and Dickie suggest we can get it excitingly right too, and do the club real credit. But, if, say, we're stupid enough to sell Dieng or Chair in the next year or so when they're under what little contracts mean these days, it's more than likely going to be a case of one step forward and three steps back, I'm afraid. It's not rocket science and it's not even very controversial.
To repeat, just because clubs might have to do a bit more balancing of the books with FFP these days doesn't mean Gerry Francis' commonsense statement that if you lose your best players and don't recruit at the same level you'll go downhill somehow now turns into irrelevant claptrap. He knows more than all of us on this board about how football works, and anyone who dismisses him as speaking from another age as if he were coming over some kind of footballing ouija board, more fool him/her!
As for Brentford, I'm not going to argue they're over-achieving on the face of it right now. They may or may not be promoted, though I'm looking forward to seeing them choke like last year. But it needs absolutely shit-hot recruitment, selling very high, top-notch coaching, and a big splash of good fortune to come off on a consistent basis - in short, a lot of risk. Good players also often come to you because they can see what you're building, and that means retaining your assets for as long as possible, establishing a united squad, and tweaking it here and there, not beahving like the footballing equivalent of Del Boy opening his fur-lined coat at the drop of a hat.
If that's old-fashioned support, better that than new-fangled fandom. [Post edited 8 Feb 2021 5:35]
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| Dieng on 09:03 - Feb 8 with 1295 views | Metallica_Hoop |
Kenny is my favourite.
I rated him before he signed and was chuffed when he did.
We've had some good ones over the years. Even the 50 year old Paul Jones was pretty good. |  |
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| Dieng on 09:36 - Feb 8 with 1264 views | RBlock |
I loved it when we were in the lead and every time Dieng caught the ball, he'd start a slow-motion protracted fall to the ground. Another one where I wish we'd been there, to ironically cheer every single tumble. |  | | |
| Dieng on 09:49 - Feb 8 with 1240 views | loftboy |
Keepers Ive just remembered Nick Culkin, Paul Jones , Carl Ikeme |  |
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| Dieng on 20:41 - Feb 8 with 1131 views | dm97 |
If you enjoy these suave xG graphs like me, here is one telling us all what we already know about Seny. People are catching on... |  | | |
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