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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 08:06 - Jun 23 by traininvain
Top of the group without losing or conceding a goal and plenty of competition for places going into a mouthwatering round of 16 tie against France, Germany or Portugal. Yet people are still unhappy. We’re a hard bunch to please!
I'm not unhappy at all, it's good progress. Can't say I'm excited either. Getting this far was minimum needed, and if we go out in QF or SF without threatening to win it, well, we've all been there before haven't we?
Don't get me wrong, Southgate's doing OK with what we've got. But I'm still hoping we're saving our best for later.
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 08:30 - Jun 23 with 1235 views
England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 08:06 - Jun 23 by traininvain
Top of the group without losing or conceding a goal and plenty of competition for places going into a mouthwatering round of 16 tie against France, Germany or Portugal. Yet people are still unhappy. We’re a hard bunch to please!
This used to be the successful modus operandi of Italy to progress from group stages at major championships and they won a few.
However on what I have seen of the competition, there are 3 / 4 teams better than England at the moment, so we will do well to make the semis.
The next game will be crucial.
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 09:13 - Jun 23 by eastside_r
This used to be the successful modus operandi of Italy to progress from group stages at major championships and they won a few.
However on what I have seen of the competition, there are 3 / 4 teams better than England at the moment, so we will do well to make the semis.
The next game will be crucial.
Agreed. Major international tournaments are all about moving through the gears at the right time. Portugal drew all three group games in 2016 and went on to win the tournament.
England have come through a potentially tricky group stage unscathed. Massive game next Tuesday whoever England face. Time to move up a gear or two.
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 10:21 - Jun 23 with 1046 views
worth adding that despite all the experts calling Southgate a clown and a fraud on twitter he's navigated the group stage with a game to spare twice now, not sure any other England manager has done that since Alf Ramsey
England far from perfect so far but they beat a decent side last night without really breaking sweat
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 11:12 - Jun 23 with 958 views
England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 10:45 - Jun 23 by daveB
worth adding that despite all the experts calling Southgate a clown and a fraud on twitter he's navigated the group stage with a game to spare twice now, not sure any other England manager has done that since Alf Ramsey
England far from perfect so far but they beat a decent side last night without really breaking sweat
Sadly Dave, as with almost every subject in the public domain, people are too entrenched.
If we go out in the R16 it will be ‘Southgate useless, announce Rodgers / Howe / Wilder’.
If we get to Semi, Final, or win it, it will be ‘lucky Southgate’ like a poster ( gazza maybe?) did earlier in the thread.
Then they’ll wait for the inevitable defeat or uninspiring draw before disregarding his 65% win rate and acting like a draw with Slovenia or whoever is the worst result in the world.
It’s better to be right than successful in a lot of people’s minds.
He’s toast I think whatever the outcome of this tournament.
[Post edited 23 Jun 2021 11:20]
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 11:14 - Jun 23 with 947 views
England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 10:45 - Jun 23 by daveB
worth adding that despite all the experts calling Southgate a clown and a fraud on twitter he's navigated the group stage with a game to spare twice now, not sure any other England manager has done that since Alf Ramsey
England far from perfect so far but they beat a decent side last night without really breaking sweat
Agreed.
I mean so far so good and it's been quite professional, I know it's all about results at the end of the day. Just a shame that it's a bit dull.
Of course the next game could be drama from start to finish and end in glorious failure, and people will still moan anyway!
England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 11:26 - Jun 23 by TheChef
Quite some stats there.
What was his unintentional goal??
I’m guessing the one that went in off his ass against Panama at the World Cup.
It’s a difficult one as Kane has a good track record (aside from international tournaments it would seem!) but he’s struggled so far and Calvert Lewin might be a better option based upon fitness and form.
It’s probably too late now but in future I wouldn’t mind a system like Guardiola’s Man City without a recognised striker but attackers like Sterling, Foden, Saka, Sancho etc interchanging with a false 9.
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 12:08 - Jun 23 by traininvain
I’m guessing the one that went in off his ass against Panama at the World Cup.
It’s a difficult one as Kane has a good track record (aside from international tournaments it would seem!) but he’s struggled so far and Calvert Lewin might be a better option based upon fitness and form.
It’s probably too late now but in future I wouldn’t mind a system like Guardiola’s Man City without a recognised striker but attackers like Sterling, Foden, Saka, Sancho etc interchanging with a false 9.
He certainly does seem to be struggling for some reason, both last night and against Scotland he was easily outpaced by a defender, not something I’ve noticed with him before.
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 12:34 - Jun 23 with 788 views
England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 11:12 - Jun 23 by BazzaInTheLoft
Sadly Dave, as with almost every subject in the public domain, people are too entrenched.
If we go out in the R16 it will be ‘Southgate useless, announce Rodgers / Howe / Wilder’.
If we get to Semi, Final, or win it, it will be ‘lucky Southgate’ like a poster ( gazza maybe?) did earlier in the thread.
Then they’ll wait for the inevitable defeat or uninspiring draw before disregarding his 65% win rate and acting like a draw with Slovenia or whoever is the worst result in the world.
It’s better to be right than successful in a lot of people’s minds.
He’s toast I think whatever the outcome of this tournament.
[Post edited 23 Jun 2021 11:20]
I can't see him being sacked. Unless he has an Iceland style catastrophe he should get a go at the World Cup next year
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread (n/t) on 12:36 - Jun 23 with 783 views
England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 12:08 - Jun 23 by traininvain
I’m guessing the one that went in off his ass against Panama at the World Cup.
It’s a difficult one as Kane has a good track record (aside from international tournaments it would seem!) but he’s struggled so far and Calvert Lewin might be a better option based upon fitness and form.
It’s probably too late now but in future I wouldn’t mind a system like Guardiola’s Man City without a recognised striker but attackers like Sterling, Foden, Saka, Sancho etc interchanging with a false 9.
Is Kane Jimmy Greaves and Calvert-Lewin Geoff Hurst?
England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 12:13 - Jun 23 by Maggsinho
He certainly does seem to be struggling for some reason, both last night and against Scotland he was easily outpaced by a defender, not something I’ve noticed with him before.
Perhaps as someone suggested elsewhere might he be suffering from something undiagnosed like glandular fever or hepatitis just as a very below par Gary Lineker was discovered to have had in the 1988 Euros.
England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 12:08 - Jun 23 by traininvain
I’m guessing the one that went in off his ass against Panama at the World Cup.
It’s a difficult one as Kane has a good track record (aside from international tournaments it would seem!) but he’s struggled so far and Calvert Lewin might be a better option based upon fitness and form.
It’s probably too late now but in future I wouldn’t mind a system like Guardiola’s Man City without a recognised striker but attackers like Sterling, Foden, Saka, Sancho etc interchanging with a false 9.
think that works at club level but having the time to implement that to a National side would be tricky.
It's interesting how few international teams play with freedom and real attacking swagger as you see at club level. the best sides tend to be very pragmatic. When you look at some of the talent France has for example the way they play is similar to England in having 6 defensive players and relying on the flair players to make something happen rather than be a Man City style team who dominates the ball using movement etc. The all out attack teams who are great to watch rarely win anything even Brazil went pretty dull the last time they won the World Cup
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 12:44 - Jun 23 with 734 views
England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 10:21 - Jun 23 by daveB
France and Portugal have been equally dull so far
Didn't see the France / Hungary match so can't comment but thought France were excellent against Germany, could quite easily have won that 4-0. They completely dominated the Germans and were very unlucky to have 2 goals disallowed for offside. A performance a long way from being dull.
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 12:51 - Jun 23 with 705 views
England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 12:44 - Jun 23 by Silverfoxqpr
Didn't see the France / Hungary match so can't comment but thought France were excellent against Germany, could quite easily have won that 4-0. They completely dominated the Germans and were very unlucky to have 2 goals disallowed for offside. A performance a long way from being dull.
They played well and are an excellent side but didn't think they were very exciting
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England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Czech Republic 🇨🇿 Match Thread on 14:34 - Jun 23 with 573 views
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