| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility 17:55 - Mar 20 with 7048 views | numptydumpty |
Think It's beyond us now.
Today home to bottom team was a must win.
Only three home games, one against Fulham and most games against better performing teams..
Would love it even now but sadly can't see how it could be possible !!! |  |
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 08:20 - Mar 21 with 2186 views | Rs_Holy |
I think weve simply run out of steam. We look physically and mentally shot. The squad effectively only has one fit striker and relies too heavily on Chair and Willock to create chances. Thankfully the team has amassed enough points to avoid relegation but as mentioned it needs a total rethink for next season.
Getting in the playoffs would have created a bit of excitement but we would have lost comfortably in the semis which might have put the team on even more of a downer?
Taking a step back and looking at the season as a whole, it was a great start with some brilliant away victories but the squad is small and the championship season is punishingly long… it all caught up with the team in the end… a real shame. |  | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 08:25 - Mar 21 with 2149 views | TheChef |
As mentioned elsewhere it ain't over till it's over.
Two weeks to get our minds and bodies straight.
Jeff Hendrick winner in the 87th minute at Swansea to seal our play off place.
And if in the end we don't make the play offs, it's because over 46 games we haven't quite been good enough. But we'll have had a bloody good go. |  |
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 09:04 - Mar 21 with 2093 views | BlackAndGoldRanger |
It's still in our hands with Shef U to play twice and Huddersfield away but I think it's gone.
Peterborough were dreadful in the 1st half and we didn't kill them off (see Cardiff - home). If we can't beat those teams we won't beat teams around us.
2021 was a great year for both the performances and results but something has changed this year. We managed to be unbeaten in January not playing well and now it's come home to roost.
No idea what's changed and how to fix it but there is a good team in there somewhere, they proved it last year. Injuries stacking up, confidence on the floor. Go for it against Fulham but wouldn't be surprised if we continue in this same way until the end of the season.
I will be at those home games cheering on the team but these past 2 months have killed any optimism I had left. |  | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 10:21 - Mar 21 with 1962 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
Championship football is far too random to give up all hope. Form often means nothing. Also there’s no such thing as a must win game in March.
When we were 1-0 up yesterday, dominating and their defence seeming sure to cough up a second goal you wouldn’t have wasted your time with this thread.
Would I bet on us at longish odds, no.
Would I be surprised if we made the playoffs, no again.
Lots to play for.j | | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 10:43 - Mar 21 with 1905 views | QPR_John |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 08:07 - Mar 21 by stevec |
Tactically we’ve degenerated into an absolute mess.
I am starting to think ‘management’ wasn’t on the bench, it was on the pitch, in the hands of old pros Johansen, Wallace, Austin and Albert. As their ability to last the season out disappears we have become a rabble on the park.
Dunne was particularly good at talking to his defence, needed big time in a centre back, so MW switches him out left and puts the quietest man in football in his position.
The last straw was watching six of our players chasing down a forward on our left like the fckin keystone cops.
My worry is not so much the play offs but where we are heading next season. |
"My worry is not so much the play offs but where we are heading next season."
Agree. People ask would we have accepted this position at the start of the season and the answer is of course we would. However having reached the heady heights we have gone backwards and it is this trend that is the worrying factor. No good being mathematically safe from relegation with 10 games to go (when was the last time that happened) and then reverting to relegation form for the rest of the season.
Just to emphasise the point after the Reading game we were on 1.82 points per game with 51 points. The 10 games since then we have taken 8 points with a rate of 0.8 points per game. That is a 56% drop. Lies, damn lies and statistics maybe but worrying all the same [Post edited 21 Mar 2022 11:20]
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 10:50 - Mar 21 with 1892 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 08:07 - Mar 21 by stevec |
Tactically we’ve degenerated into an absolute mess.
I am starting to think ‘management’ wasn’t on the bench, it was on the pitch, in the hands of old pros Johansen, Wallace, Austin and Albert. As their ability to last the season out disappears we have become a rabble on the park.
Dunne was particularly good at talking to his defence, needed big time in a centre back, so MW switches him out left and puts the quietest man in football in his position.
The last straw was watching six of our players chasing down a forward on our left like the fckin keystone cops.
My worry is not so much the play offs but where we are heading next season. |
Take out Willock and where's our creativity? The second half at home to a side with -46 GD we failed to have a shot on target. Willock's class had us in a false position. | | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 11:18 - Mar 21 with 1803 views | TacticalR |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 08:20 - Mar 21 by Rs_Holy |
I think weve simply run out of steam. We look physically and mentally shot. The squad effectively only has one fit striker and relies too heavily on Chair and Willock to create chances. Thankfully the team has amassed enough points to avoid relegation but as mentioned it needs a total rethink for next season.
Getting in the playoffs would have created a bit of excitement but we would have lost comfortably in the semis which might have put the team on even more of a downer?
Taking a step back and looking at the season as a whole, it was a great start with some brilliant away victories but the squad is small and the championship season is punishingly long… it all caught up with the team in the end… a real shame. |
Yes, I think the problem is that even if we got into the play-offs, the injuries to key players have piled up and we have run out of steam.
I was at the Forest game on Wednesday and for the first time this season I felt we looked like lightweights and in danger of being overwhelmed. Forest on the other hand had momentum. |  |
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 11:27 - Mar 21 with 1773 views | eastside_r |
If IF we can get some form back then we still have a slim chance.
But we appear to be in a nose-dive at exactly the wrong time, with difficult games to come. Not lost all hope but I am starting to accept we won’t make them.  |  | | |
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 12:05 - Mar 21 with 1687 views | cpgerber |
All of this must have a negative effect on the valuation of the stars we were hoping to sell for $$$ ala Eze.
Bad business all round. Still hoping for a turnaround, though. All is not lost, but looking pretty grim at the moment. |  | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 12:32 - Mar 21 with 1623 views | andrew1302 |
Can't see any chance of the play offs. Frankly we have looked very poor for the past couple of months. For those of us there on Sunday we were worse than the club that is clearly the worst in the division. Shocking does not describe it harshly enough led by Sanderson who had one of the worst games i have seen by any player this season. The concentration now needs to be on what we do next season. Will Barbet re-sign? If not we certainly need 2 defenders. The midfield is in a right mess. Johansen unfortunately has the years catching up on him, Field is great , but clearly we need someone in that area who can drive a team forward. Dozell is not up to it at the moment . And up front we really need to sign at least 2 . Charlie appears shot. I sit in the upper loft and his one shot when he came on on Saturday was not like the old confident Charlie. A relegation struggle could await with this team i fear. And for those detractors Barnsley, Cardiff, Peteborough were all pretty dreadful and they all beat us easily. Warburton churning out we are a good team i think has become we were a good team. Legs on the older players have gone and we do not have any playmaker. i guess that was the idea of Hendrick which clearly was a bad signing. I think a bit of a reality check amongst fans and management would be a good thing. If you look at Luton they have speed, desire and fitness levels that we seem lacking in. We need some players with those characteristics. Perhaps a few of ours started to read the press and have decided they are better than they really are ie Dickie whose loss of form could be connected to people telling him he is a premiership defender - he isn't. | | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 12:42 - Mar 21 with 1577 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 12:32 - Mar 21 by andrew1302 |
Can't see any chance of the play offs. Frankly we have looked very poor for the past couple of months. For those of us there on Sunday we were worse than the club that is clearly the worst in the division. Shocking does not describe it harshly enough led by Sanderson who had one of the worst games i have seen by any player this season. The concentration now needs to be on what we do next season. Will Barbet re-sign? If not we certainly need 2 defenders. The midfield is in a right mess. Johansen unfortunately has the years catching up on him, Field is great , but clearly we need someone in that area who can drive a team forward. Dozell is not up to it at the moment . And up front we really need to sign at least 2 . Charlie appears shot. I sit in the upper loft and his one shot when he came on on Saturday was not like the old confident Charlie. A relegation struggle could await with this team i fear. And for those detractors Barnsley, Cardiff, Peteborough were all pretty dreadful and they all beat us easily. Warburton churning out we are a good team i think has become we were a good team. Legs on the older players have gone and we do not have any playmaker. i guess that was the idea of Hendrick which clearly was a bad signing. I think a bit of a reality check amongst fans and management would be a good thing. If you look at Luton they have speed, desire and fitness levels that we seem lacking in. We need some players with those characteristics. Perhaps a few of ours started to read the press and have decided they are better than they really are ie Dickie whose loss of form could be connected to people telling him he is a premiership defender - he isn't. |
A little harsh but fair. Still, I'm not giving up until the fat lady sings. |  | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 13:06 - Mar 21 with 1533 views | QPROslo |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 12:32 - Mar 21 by andrew1302 |
Can't see any chance of the play offs. Frankly we have looked very poor for the past couple of months. For those of us there on Sunday we were worse than the club that is clearly the worst in the division. Shocking does not describe it harshly enough led by Sanderson who had one of the worst games i have seen by any player this season. The concentration now needs to be on what we do next season. Will Barbet re-sign? If not we certainly need 2 defenders. The midfield is in a right mess. Johansen unfortunately has the years catching up on him, Field is great , but clearly we need someone in that area who can drive a team forward. Dozell is not up to it at the moment . And up front we really need to sign at least 2 . Charlie appears shot. I sit in the upper loft and his one shot when he came on on Saturday was not like the old confident Charlie. A relegation struggle could await with this team i fear. And for those detractors Barnsley, Cardiff, Peteborough were all pretty dreadful and they all beat us easily. Warburton churning out we are a good team i think has become we were a good team. Legs on the older players have gone and we do not have any playmaker. i guess that was the idea of Hendrick which clearly was a bad signing. I think a bit of a reality check amongst fans and management would be a good thing. If you look at Luton they have speed, desire and fitness levels that we seem lacking in. We need some players with those characteristics. Perhaps a few of ours started to read the press and have decided they are better than they really are ie Dickie whose loss of form could be connected to people telling him he is a premiership defender - he isn't. |
We beat Luton twice, the last time recently. | | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 13:19 - Mar 21 with 1488 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 12:32 - Mar 21 by andrew1302 |
Can't see any chance of the play offs. Frankly we have looked very poor for the past couple of months. For those of us there on Sunday we were worse than the club that is clearly the worst in the division. Shocking does not describe it harshly enough led by Sanderson who had one of the worst games i have seen by any player this season. The concentration now needs to be on what we do next season. Will Barbet re-sign? If not we certainly need 2 defenders. The midfield is in a right mess. Johansen unfortunately has the years catching up on him, Field is great , but clearly we need someone in that area who can drive a team forward. Dozell is not up to it at the moment . And up front we really need to sign at least 2 . Charlie appears shot. I sit in the upper loft and his one shot when he came on on Saturday was not like the old confident Charlie. A relegation struggle could await with this team i fear. And for those detractors Barnsley, Cardiff, Peteborough were all pretty dreadful and they all beat us easily. Warburton churning out we are a good team i think has become we were a good team. Legs on the older players have gone and we do not have any playmaker. i guess that was the idea of Hendrick which clearly was a bad signing. I think a bit of a reality check amongst fans and management would be a good thing. If you look at Luton they have speed, desire and fitness levels that we seem lacking in. We need some players with those characteristics. Perhaps a few of ours started to read the press and have decided they are better than they really are ie Dickie whose loss of form could be connected to people telling him he is a premiership defender - he isn't. |
Great post, but there are some real positives in the last 12 months imo,
We now have a good spine in the team of players of the right age, winning mentality and that we own (Dieng, Dunne, Dickie, Field, Dykes, Willock and Chair) we have others finally realising their potential (Amos, Odubajo) so that's 9 players on the right money who really play for the shirt,
We are improving greatly under Warburton, we're moving in the right direction, if we can sign 2 decent wingbacks, a creative midfielder and a forward with pace (remember we scouted Willock, Field and Dunne in a short space of time so why not the above?) we are a million miles from where the club was pre-Warburton. | | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 14:43 - Mar 21 with 1371 views | QPunkR |
Gave up on the playoffs weeks ago - we've been on relegation form for a couple of months now and like others I have fears for next season. What on earth would become of this squad if we lose Willock in the summer?? |  |
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 14:50 - Mar 21 with 1355 views | DesertBoot |
My gut feeling was we've blown it after losing to Cardiff and I could see yesterday's game going the same way - in total control but gave up after the equaliser. |  |
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 14:50 - Mar 21 with 1355 views | DesertBoot |
My gut feeling was we've blown it after losing to Cardiff and I could see yesterday's game going the same way - in total control but gave up after the equaliser.
Appalling body language both games at 1-1 | |
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 16:09 - Mar 21 with 1276 views | andrew1302 |
definitely not anti Warburton. Just think we all need to take a reality check. Fans expectation may have got to the players. As others have said we are 2 or 3 minimum short of a really good side. Accept we are a bit short at the moment and hopefully that will reduce the pressure. It has been a great season until we all started to hope something was possible. I am sorry to say it but i don't think we are as good as say Nottingham Forest with their massive squad or even sorrier to say as Luton with their speed and seeming fantastic team spirit. | | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 16:32 - Mar 21 with 1244 views | PinnerPaul |
Paddy Power have as 11/2 - same as WBA - Millwall are 4/1. | | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 16:54 - Mar 21 with 1198 views | W7Ranger |
As hard as the last couple of months have been, barring Reading, Blackpool and Luton, we can't give up on the season when the play offs are still in our hands.
The break has cone at the right time. A few harsh words to be said, the air cleared, re-group and we go again.
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 17:00 - Mar 21 with 1176 views | themodfather |
based on yesterdays bleak display and current form, yes. no play offs
we needed a goal scorer in january window, proven scorer , we had options and did not get a scorer.
how do you lift that lot from yesterday? warbs can't . , arms round shoulders and massaging feet may work and sometimes the hair dryer does too! | | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 12:33 - Mar 22 with 1013 views | TacticalR |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 17:00 - Mar 21 by themodfather |
based on yesterdays bleak display and current form, yes. no play offs
we needed a goal scorer in january window, proven scorer , we had options and did not get a scorer.
how do you lift that lot from yesterday? warbs can't . , arms round shoulders and massaging feet may work and sometimes the hair dryer does too! |
I don't think the laying on of hands is going to work. | |
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 12:56 - Mar 22 with 945 views | TheChef |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 12:33 - Mar 22 by TacticalR |
I don't think the laying on of hands is going to work. |
What's Eileen Drewery up to? | |
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 13:38 - Mar 22 with 885 views | BAWHoops |
I think relegation next season would be a stretch!
Assuming we sell 2 this summer (likely Dieng and Willock), that still leaves us with Dickie, Dunne, Amos, Johansen, Field, Chair, Dykes to build around.
Certainly good enough!
When you factor in that someone like Spence was a loan bomb out at Boro there will certainly be value in the transfer market for us to explot |  |
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| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 13:49 - Mar 22 with 858 views | Rangersw12 |
Haven't given up but accept with our run in its gonna be very difficult.
This season should still be seen as a positive regardless of what happens especially now that people are trying to rewrite history on here | | | |
| Has everyone given up on the play offs as a possibility on 14:10 - Mar 22 with 811 views | daveB |
despite recent results we shouldn't give up on them, teams with less points than us haven't given up so neither should we. I don't think we'll make it but giving up now seems daft |  | | |
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