| Dear Lord 01:35 - Aug 3 with 3649 views | Boston |
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| Dear Lord on 07:33 - Aug 3 with 3364 views | DejR_vu |
Maybe she said something about the club’s senior execs? 😉
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| Dear Lord on 08:40 - Aug 3 with 3201 views | Dixie_CT |
Cowardly and abhorrent behaviour. I hope justice is served.
As George Carlin said ‘We are not that far out of the jungle’ |  | | |
| Dear Lord on 08:42 - Aug 3 with 3189 views | PinnerPaul |
Wonder why there are less and less referees?
Smaller pool, means less talent, it will/does affect the top levels. | | | |
| Dear Lord on 08:50 - Aug 3 with 3173 views | Dixie_CT |
| Dear Lord on 08:42 - Aug 3 by PinnerPaul |
Wonder why there are less and less referees?
Smaller pool, means less talent, it will/does affect the top levels. |
I’m encouraging my son to become a qualified ref when he turns 14 in February. Great way for him to develop as an individual and earn some decent pocket money.
I feel I will need to be at all of his games to support him but also protect him from the parents/coaches. | | | |
| Dear Lord on 08:54 - Aug 3 with 3137 views | PinnerPaul |
| Dear Lord on 08:50 - Aug 3 by Dixie_CT |
I’m encouraging my son to become a qualified ref when he turns 14 in February. Great way for him to develop as an individual and earn some decent pocket money.
I feel I will need to be at all of his games to support him but also protect him from the parents/coaches. |
On the flip side events like that ARE incredibly rare.
Good luck to your son, you are quite right, if he enjoys it, a great way to learn and develop life skills. | | | |
| Dear Lord on 08:58 - Aug 3 with 3099 views | Dixie_CT |
| Dear Lord on 08:54 - Aug 3 by PinnerPaul |
On the flip side events like that ARE incredibly rare.
Good luck to your son, you are quite right, if he enjoys it, a great way to learn and develop life skills. |
Thanks Pinner. He is keen to do it, which I’m slightly surprised about as he can be very lazy, but I think the responsibility will do him good.
I agree, incidents are rare, but as a coach, I’ve seen other coaches go at, parents go at coaches, and parents go at parents. I expect to be an insurance policy, not a bouncer. Fingers crossed. | | | |
| Dear Lord on 09:27 - Aug 3 with 2935 views | derbyhoop |
My son has given up playing after dislocating his shoulder. Now reffing.
Over 35s game a player called him a "sh1t ref".
Response was "if I was any good I wouldn't be reffing at your level". Game, set & match? |  |
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| Dear Lord on 09:48 - Aug 3 with 2884 views | daveB |
| Dear Lord on 08:50 - Aug 3 by Dixie_CT |
I’m encouraging my son to become a qualified ref when he turns 14 in February. Great way for him to develop as an individual and earn some decent pocket money.
I feel I will need to be at all of his games to support him but also protect him from the parents/coaches. |
We used to have young 14/15 years olds reffing my sons games when he was in under 8/9 leagues. Was good experience for them and easy pocket money as well. Parents a nightmare though, we had a few who treated every game like a world cup final was part of why my son didn't want to do it anymore, also partly that he was rubbish but we go with the former to not completly destroy his confidence |  | | |
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| Dear Lord on 09:49 - Aug 3 with 2881 views | terryb |
| Dear Lord on 09:27 - Aug 3 by derbyhoop |
My son has given up playing after dislocating his shoulder. Now reffing.
Over 35s game a player called him a "sh1t ref".
Response was "if I was any good I wouldn't be reffing at your level". Game, set & match? |
That's the sort of response that you normally only think of when it is too late to use! | | | |
| Dear Lord on 09:52 - Aug 3 with 2865 views | terryb |
Hopefully he was taken directly to gaol. | | | |
| Dear Lord on 09:59 - Aug 3 with 2806 views | BlackCrowe |
My daughter did the FA course and got her ref badges at 16. It's been great for her plus the pay works out at around £20 an hour which at that age is a fortune. Two years on she's about to go to Uni and will carry on reffing at wherever she ends up, she'll never earn that amount as a student doing bar working, waiting table etc.
Generally she hasn't copped too much flak. There was one time when the opposing manager was screaming and swearing at her on a penalty decision and she calmly went up to him and said 'you do realise you are a middle-aged shouting and swearing and 17 year old girl'. He was crushed and apologised profusely. |  |
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| Dear Lord on 10:28 - Aug 3 with 2723 views | Stanisgod |
Probably would have got a yellow and a 'play on' from Stroud 😳 |  |
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| Dear Lord on 10:32 - Aug 3 with 2695 views | slmrstid |
| Dear Lord on 09:59 - Aug 3 by BlackCrowe |
My daughter did the FA course and got her ref badges at 16. It's been great for her plus the pay works out at around £20 an hour which at that age is a fortune. Two years on she's about to go to Uni and will carry on reffing at wherever she ends up, she'll never earn that amount as a student doing bar working, waiting table etc.
Generally she hasn't copped too much flak. There was one time when the opposing manager was screaming and swearing at her on a penalty decision and she calmly went up to him and said 'you do realise you are a middle-aged shouting and swearing and 17 year old girl'. He was crushed and apologised profusely. |
Good on her! Good luck to her at Uni too. |  | | |
| Dear Lord on 10:55 - Aug 3 with 2610 views | loftboy |
| Dear Lord on 09:27 - Aug 3 by derbyhoop |
My son has given up playing after dislocating his shoulder. Now reffing.
Over 35s game a player called him a "sh1t ref".
Response was "if I was any good I wouldn't be reffing at your level". Game, set & match? |
A game I was reffing a player was in my ear all game, nothing too bad but niggly, anyhow he missed a sitter from 3 yards, I couldn’t help but whisper in his ear “ and you think I’m shit” always had a decent rapport with him after that. |  |
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| Dear Lord on 11:48 - Aug 3 with 2429 views | Loftgirl |
| Dear Lord on 10:28 - Aug 3 by Stanisgod |
Probably would have got a yellow and a 'play on' from Stroud 😳 |
Especially if was Bournemouth. |  | | |
| Dear Lord on 15:05 - Aug 3 with 2095 views | Dixie_CT |
| Dear Lord on 09:48 - Aug 3 by daveB |
We used to have young 14/15 years olds reffing my sons games when he was in under 8/9 leagues. Was good experience for them and easy pocket money as well. Parents a nightmare though, we had a few who treated every game like a world cup final was part of why my son didn't want to do it anymore, also partly that he was rubbish but we go with the former to not completly destroy his confidence |
Sorry to hear your son was put off playing by idiotic parents. Hope he found something else to enjoy. | | | |
| Dear Lord on 15:06 - Aug 3 with 2092 views | Dixie_CT |
| Dear Lord on 09:59 - Aug 3 by BlackCrowe |
My daughter did the FA course and got her ref badges at 16. It's been great for her plus the pay works out at around £20 an hour which at that age is a fortune. Two years on she's about to go to Uni and will carry on reffing at wherever she ends up, she'll never earn that amount as a student doing bar working, waiting table etc.
Generally she hasn't copped too much flak. There was one time when the opposing manager was screaming and swearing at her on a penalty decision and she calmly went up to him and said 'you do realise you are a middle-aged shouting and swearing and 17 year old girl'. He was crushed and apologised profusely. |
Put that in the referee manual and on the coaching courses!!
As a coach I felt I had the right to speak to the referee but I wasn’t in the business of challenging or chastising them. What does it gain? | | | |
| Dear Lord on 18:56 - Aug 3 with 1836 views | bosh67 |
In the case of this clip that is a jail sentence and a lifetime ban from playing football. Disgusting. |  |
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| Dear Lord on 20:14 - Aug 3 with 1688 views | Boston |
| Dear Lord on 15:06 - Aug 3 by Dixie_CT |
Put that in the referee manual and on the coaching courses!!
As a coach I felt I had the right to speak to the referee but I wasn’t in the business of challenging or chastising them. What does it gain? |
Exactly. When I had an involvement with youth football our league banned coaches / spectators from questioning a ref about any decision they had made. I did ask sometimes and often got a reply because I wasn't there to chastise, just wanted to know the officials thinking on a call, which they usually gave, maybe my accent helped😀 [Post edited 3 Aug 2022 20:15]
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| Dear Lord on 09:44 - Aug 4 with 1362 views | davman |
| Dear Lord on 18:56 - Aug 3 by bosh67 |
In the case of this clip that is a jail sentence and a lifetime ban from playing football. Disgusting. |
It is and really interesting that most of the responses on the Tweet focus on the fact that the ref was a woman. That maybe an additional factor, but should be largely irrelevant; the attack was disgusting whether on a man or woman.
Absolutely with Pinner on this; this is a major factor why people are not interested in reffing, leading to the "top" refs coming from a smaller pool. How do refs get recruited to the top lists? Do they all have to go through grass roots (where this sort of thing has to be more prevalent) or is there a selection process for people to be fast tracked? Surely the latter would be a way of "protecting" refs who don't want to go through the grass roots shite who can offer something at the top level?
Also, is that a professional game, 'cos looking at the physique of some of those players, I could have made some money out there well into my 40s. A number (including the hitman) would be well into the Super Heavyweight category if they were boxers.
A horrible and unnecessary scene. Horrible. |  |
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| Dear Lord on 11:06 - Aug 4 with 1286 views | ozranger |
It is quite interesting that the first thing that I noted is not the fact there was an attack per se, but that the attack was from behind.
Some years ago there were a rather large number of these type of attacks late at night in various cities in Australia. The state and territory governments, to clamp down on these blind attacks from behind (termed "coward punches"), implemented automatic jail terms of up to ten years or longer if the person died or suffered an ongoing life threatening injury. Most of those attacked fell hitting their head on the hard ground which was either fatal or significantly damaging.
But, as per the referee's own voice from the various commentary on this incident, this is not an attack on a woman, but a cowardly attack on a person. The individual has been arrested and the referee is pressing charges according to reports. |  | | |
| Dear Lord on 12:00 - Aug 4 with 1212 views | QPR_John |
I take the point that it was a cowardly attack on a person regardless of gender but maybe it’s a generation thing but for me the fact it was a women makes it of a magnitude far worse. | | | |
| Dear Lord on 15:04 - Aug 4 with 1109 views | PinnerPaul |
| Dear Lord on 09:44 - Aug 4 by davman |
It is and really interesting that most of the responses on the Tweet focus on the fact that the ref was a woman. That maybe an additional factor, but should be largely irrelevant; the attack was disgusting whether on a man or woman.
Absolutely with Pinner on this; this is a major factor why people are not interested in reffing, leading to the "top" refs coming from a smaller pool. How do refs get recruited to the top lists? Do they all have to go through grass roots (where this sort of thing has to be more prevalent) or is there a selection process for people to be fast tracked? Surely the latter would be a way of "protecting" refs who don't want to go through the grass roots shite who can offer something at the top level?
Also, is that a professional game, 'cos looking at the physique of some of those players, I could have made some money out there well into my 40s. A number (including the hitman) would be well into the Super Heavyweight category if they were boxers.
A horrible and unnecessary scene. Horrible. |
Your first paragraph is exactly what was said on RefChat.
No there is no FastTrack as such. Only exception is if you are an experienced, qualified referee arriving from another country or taking up refereeing here, then the FA will make a decision on what level you should be at.
If they are too kind, you would soon be demoted, too harsh and you would soon get promoted.
It IS possible to double jump 2 levels to speed things up a bit, but really you just have to be good, fit and, before going FT, have a job/employer that allows flexible working. [Post edited 4 Aug 2022 15:05]
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