| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose 20:51 - Mar 30 with 2323 views | VancouverHoop |
Put bluntly I'd rather not go up. Once the euphoria of promotion wears off we'll be scrabbling around trying to establish survival, followed by eventual mediocrity until we're relegated. Also, best guess, the top clubs are going to fcuk-off to an international super league within the next decade. So we'll essentially be back where we are now anyway.
Going down will initially be very depressing, then kinda fun for awhile as we'll probably win more than we lose. But after a couple seasons the gloom will begin to settle in big-time.
TBH I'm pretty happy with where we are. Most of the matches are genuinely competitive (not true 'up there') and of a decent skill level (unlike 'downstairs.') For me, it's always been about the two hours on the pitch. Division aside, I just want to see the guys in hoops put in a good shift wherever, and whenever, they play
So Division Two works well enough for me. I really, really would like to see us put some genuine effort into winning cup matches though. Our recent record is pitiful, as is our not so recent record. C'mon guys gimme that as something to dream about.
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 21:05 - Mar 30 with 2087 views | loftboy |
Don’t think there’s much chance of the”up” option! |  |
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 22:05 - Mar 30 with 1988 views | daveB |
Is going up an option? I'll take that one please, would be a hell of a last 7 games if we end up promoted |  | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 22:33 - Mar 30 with 1908 views | QPR_John |
Don’t understand not wanting to go up. Football is what it is and we have to live with it. There will be if it does not exist now a close shop of about say 25 clubs consisting of those who stay in the Premier League and those that yo-yo between relegation and promotion. The rest will not have the financial clout to compete. Just check the clubs promoted and relegated over the last few years. | | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 22:35 - Mar 30 with 1901 views | colinallcars |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 22:33 - Mar 30 by QPR_John |
Don’t understand not wanting to go up. Football is what it is and we have to live with it. There will be if it does not exist now a close shop of about say 25 clubs consisting of those who stay in the Premier League and those that yo-yo between relegation and promotion. The rest will not have the financial clout to compete. Just check the clubs promoted and relegated over the last few years. |
I accuse you of……logic ! |  | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 22:57 - Mar 30 with 1824 views | VancouverHoop |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 22:33 - Mar 30 by QPR_John |
Don’t understand not wanting to go up. Football is what it is and we have to live with it. There will be if it does not exist now a close shop of about say 25 clubs consisting of those who stay in the Premier League and those that yo-yo between relegation and promotion. The rest will not have the financial clout to compete. Just check the clubs promoted and relegated over the last few years. |
Re: "not wanting to go up."
Probably the way I was introduced to football as a kid. In the senior 'Greek' shamateur leagues there was no promotion/relegation. But there were an awful lot of cup competitions. Five or six, from the FA Cup, and the FA Amateur Cup at the top, to the county Cups and Shields at the other end. | | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 23:02 - Mar 30 with 1797 views | numptydumpty |
Well i worked it out , nerd that I am !!!
7 wins gets us to 66 points.
All with 7 games to go currently,
5th has 59 points
6th, 7th, 8th have 57 points.
So all three clubs from (6th to 8th), will have to get 8 points or less from remaining 7 fixtures all.
So it is mathematically possible in some alternate universe.
Checked our odds currently best price 4000 to 1. |  |
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 23:14 - Mar 30 with 1757 views | GaryHaddock |
I’m going to say it, a season of away days in League One sounds like fun.
No one else fcking tired of going to Coventry? 😆 [Post edited 30 Mar 23:20]
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 23:31 - Mar 30 with 1721 views | ted_hendrix |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 22:33 - Mar 30 by QPR_John |
Don’t understand not wanting to go up. Football is what it is and we have to live with it. There will be if it does not exist now a close shop of about say 25 clubs consisting of those who stay in the Premier League and those that yo-yo between relegation and promotion. The rest will not have the financial clout to compete. Just check the clubs promoted and relegated over the last few years. |
I found the Premiership awful, I couldn't stand It, there were people In the lower loft whom I never saw before (or since).
There was a thing going on from some media outlets that we should be grateful for 'being there'.
It was inevitable that we were gonna get relegated.
Now look getting there was great I had some great away days, but I don't know, I remember the manure team coach turning up at LR and It was ridiculous, It was a circus People taking pictures of the coach driver for goodness sake.
We had a few good days and results but no, some of the games I remember thinking we can't live with these bastards (and we couldn't)
I just view the Premiership as a televisual pile of £
I'll stay we we are please comfortably numb. |  |
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 23:40 - Mar 30 with 1695 views | essextaxiboy |
I will take promotion please , playing Chelsea at LR , some of the best players in world football on our pitch , games like the Liverpool comeback . Use the money sensibly , and get into that yo yo club state where something is riding on every season .until we can do a Palace , Brighton or Bournemouth any there for a bit . Most importantly secure the future of the club. |  | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 15:39 - Mar 31 with 1417 views | gazza1 |
Despite my thinking we had a chance of play-offs or top 10 place, we will be seeing another season in the Championship. | | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 17:34 - Mar 31 with 1295 views | PBLOCK |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 23:40 - Mar 30 by essextaxiboy |
I will take promotion please , playing Chelsea at LR , some of the best players in world football on our pitch , games like the Liverpool comeback . Use the money sensibly , and get into that yo yo club state where something is riding on every season .until we can do a Palace , Brighton or Bournemouth any there for a bit . Most importantly secure the future of the club. |
💯 agree
If / when we get promoted we should be looking to emulate clubs like Brentford, Fulham, Palace, Bournemouth , Brighton , Forest etc.
They all took the blue print of QPR 1967- 1996. Buy young hungry players, turn a profit on some and then rinse repeat. Cup runs, European football regularly mixing it with the big boys and if a few bad seasons happen stick with it. Appoint good managers etc
The recent Prem years weren’t the best but their were some great moments beating Chelsea 1-0, the 5 wins on the bounce at home to stay up including Liverpool Arsenal and Spurs
That’s the QPR I fell in Love with and that’s the QPR I want us to be again | | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 23:11 - Mar 31 with 1189 views | VancouverHoop |
Hasn't football changed significantly since then though? For example 10 of the 20 EPL clubs are currently US owned. The sports ownership models they're familiar with are enclosed major leagues with no movement up or down. They certainly won't want their investment "downgraded" to what they'd perceive as a minor league level. If economic variables don't change in the next decade or so I'm guessing the much discussed 'breakaway league' will become more than a pipe-dream. And I certainly wouldn't want QPR becoming part of it. | | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 00:37 - Apr 1 with 1102 views | PunteR |
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 01:56 - Apr 1 with 1074 views | LazyFan |
Up, then we can play all those other teams just outside West London.
If not up, win the FA Cup to take the pish out of all the Premier teams.
Meanwhile, back on planet Earth... |  |
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 04:39 - Apr 1 with 1039 views | QPROslo |
Definitely want to go up, but we'll do well to stay in the Championship this season. | | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 04:58 - Apr 1 with 1029 views | ozexile |
Up up up. Personally never understood the "Don't want to go up" lines. It means you want us to lose football matches. What's the point of supporting a team that you don't want to see achieve and be the best they can be? | | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 09:39 - Apr 1 with 885 views | PBLOCK |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 23:11 - Mar 31 by VancouverHoop |
Hasn't football changed significantly since then though? For example 10 of the 20 EPL clubs are currently US owned. The sports ownership models they're familiar with are enclosed major leagues with no movement up or down. They certainly won't want their investment "downgraded" to what they'd perceive as a minor league level. If economic variables don't change in the next decade or so I'm guessing the much discussed 'breakaway league' will become more than a pipe-dream. And I certainly wouldn't want QPR becoming part of it. |
Football has changed massively but the principles remain the same
Take Rangers late 80’s for example look at the players we bought in
Ferdinand young very green from Hayes but worth a punt
Sinton was about 23/4 when he joined done well lower down the leagues
Wilkins, amazing career but to many was washed up stayed for 5/6 seasons and was superb
Sansom short term was here two years similar to Wilkins was washed up but was great
Parker good young player nicked off local rival in lower divisions
All contributed and either gave good service or were moved on
I could pick pretty much any Rangers side over that 30 year period and give other examples. Yeah sure there were some duff signings but on the whole the recruitment and ethos got us to London top side in the 1st premier league and not far off Europe , FA Cup Quarter Finals etc
We’ve been in foreign ownership for best part of 20 years, football is a rich man’s / Country / State game now but the principles apply
Look at Bournemouth. Kerkez the left back arguably one of the best in the Prem picked up for not huge money has many admirers, Kluivert Semenyo etc
The other clubs I mention have similar examples
Bournemouth right now are QPR of 35 years ago why wouldn’t we want to be the new Bournemouth | | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 09:48 - Apr 1 with 871 views | Juzzie |
Going up is only any good if you can avoid year-on-year relegation scraps, it's exhausting. |  | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 14:17 - Apr 1 with 736 views | R_from_afar |
Up. Now, anyone got the 'phone number of a wizard? A genie?
We'll do very well to stay in the Championship at this rate  |  |
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 16:41 - Apr 1 with 607 views | rrrspricey |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 17:34 - Mar 31 by PBLOCK |
💯 agree
If / when we get promoted we should be looking to emulate clubs like Brentford, Fulham, Palace, Bournemouth , Brighton , Forest etc.
They all took the blue print of QPR 1967- 1996. Buy young hungry players, turn a profit on some and then rinse repeat. Cup runs, European football regularly mixing it with the big boys and if a few bad seasons happen stick with it. Appoint good managers etc
The recent Prem years weren’t the best but their were some great moments beating Chelsea 1-0, the 5 wins on the bounce at home to stay up including Liverpool Arsenal and Spurs
That’s the QPR I fell in Love with and that’s the QPR I want us to be again |
Great in theory but all the decent young hungry players are swallowed up by the likes of the scum |  | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 17:16 - Apr 1 with 567 views | NewBee |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 16:41 - Apr 1 by rrrspricey |
Great in theory but all the decent young hungry players are swallowed up by the likes of the scum |
Look harder, in new places, like eg Palace, Bournemouth or Brighton.
Then sell them to the scum for a nice profit and laugh when they bugger them up.
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 20:14 - Apr 1 with 488 views | derbyhoop |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 09:48 - Apr 1 by Juzzie |
Going up is only any good if you can avoid year-on-year relegation scraps, it's exhausting. |
It's not just that. 1 season in the PL could set us up for another 5. Provided you use the money wisely. |  |
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 20:19 - Apr 1 with 479 views | VancouverHoop |
Football has changed massively but the principles remain the same
I guess that depends on what you think those principles are exactly.
The dimensions and markings of the playing area haven't, neither have the size of the goalposts nor the number of players on the pitch, but much else has in the past couple of decades.
Examples:
The increasing number of substitutions during a match. Shoot-outs instead of replays. The introduction of VAR, and the informal increase of time-outs. Some, like the fourth official in the bench areas are fairly inconsequential but others,VAR especially, isn't and constitutes enough of a reason to deter me from watching Premier League football at all. These innovations are mainly indirect adaptations from North American leagues where they've either been integral to professional sport for decades, or are easy for them to accommodate. Which is why I believe an enclosed English Major League seems an inevitable eventuality. [Post edited 1 Apr 20:22]
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| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 20:32 - Apr 1 with 468 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Says it all that some don't want to be promoted. If the fans aren't bothered why should the players be?
The lack of desire and standards at the club is reflected in some of its fan base. Shocking. | | | |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 20:44 - Apr 1 with 459 views | GaryHaddock |
| Up? Down? Stay where we are? You choose on 20:32 - Apr 1 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Says it all that some don't want to be promoted. If the fans aren't bothered why should the players be?
The lack of desire and standards at the club is reflected in some of its fan base. Shocking. |
Edit: I’m wrong. [Post edited 1 Apr 20:44]
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