| Madsen 16:29 - Jan 21 with 3699 views | WestbourneR |
Far and away our best player now. By a distant mile.
He is Premiership quality. His passing is of the highest level.
If only the people he's passing in our team could trap a bag of cement.
He will get a big move, I'm very sure.
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| Madsen on 19:18 - Jan 21 with 1343 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Madsen on 18:58 - Jan 21 by kensalriser |
Somewhat hyperbolic. Much improved, yes, one of the first names on the teamsheet, certainly. But he needs to impose himself on and dominate games on a regular basis like Barry Bannan used to before we can lavish this kind of praise on him. |
He’s not that kind of player and never will be. You can dominate a game with the ball. He needs a destroyer beside him.
Don’t recall DeBruyne charging around the pitch tackling box to box. He destroyed teams by moving the ball around in a way that no one could get near him. Admittedly, the players around him knew how to take care of the ball when they received it. |  | | |
| Madsen on 19:21 - Jan 21 with 1317 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Madsen on 18:24 - Jan 21 by ParkRoyalR |
When Madsen was shall we say acclimatising on the bench in his first season Mirgan manned up & was excellent until he ran out of gas.
Dembele is another option in that CAM role as is Chair.
This team is going nowhere playing nice neat 15 yard passes. |
Not going anywhere giving it back to the opposition either. Madsen seems the only one capable of passing it to his own teammates. | | | |
| Madsen on 19:26 - Jan 21 with 1278 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Madsen on 19:18 - Jan 21 by Burnleyhoop |
He’s not that kind of player and never will be. You can dominate a game with the ball. He needs a destroyer beside him.
Don’t recall DeBruyne charging around the pitch tackling box to box. He destroyed teams by moving the ball around in a way that no one could get near him. Admittedly, the players around him knew how to take care of the ball when they received it. |
De Bruyne opened up defences, Madsen very very rarely does.
Still a long way from justifying his price tag imo.
Decent assist for Burrell other week, decent cross for Varane's headed goal and that's all I can recall, has a long long way to go.
Might be easy on the eye but he's not hurting poor opposition teams as evidenced in last month. | | | |
| Madsen on 19:28 - Jan 21 with 1267 views | NorthantsHoop |
Basically nice to see he has turned it around from how we saw him in his first season. Developed into a good player at Championship level. |  | | |
| Madsen on 19:36 - Jan 21 with 1224 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Madsen on 19:26 - Jan 21 by ParkRoyalR |
De Bruyne opened up defences, Madsen very very rarely does.
Still a long way from justifying his price tag imo.
Decent assist for Burrell other week, decent cross for Varane's headed goal and that's all I can recall, has a long long way to go.
Might be easy on the eye but he's not hurting poor opposition teams as evidenced in last month. |
He has the tools, others simply don’t. It will come. With the right support. | | | |
| Madsen on 19:46 - Jan 21 with 1135 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Madsen on 16:39 - Jan 21 by ParkRoyalR |
I disagree,
Would we get our money back on him?
Is his cautious passing opening teams up?
A couple of goals, a penalty & maybe a couple of genuine assists?
There's an argument the Wingers & Forwards are struggling because Madsen is just not creating.
Lots will likely disagree, and he has improved, albeit he had to, but I think he's vastly over-rated by many on this board, time may prove me wrong. |
You're right and they're wrong!
To call him Prem quality is risible. He's passable Champ quality at best. Plays in glimpses and creates little or nothing. [Post edited 21 Jan 19:49]
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| Madsen on 20:14 - Jan 21 with 1081 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Madsen on 19:36 - Jan 21 by Burnleyhoop |
He has the tools, others simply don’t. It will come. With the right support. |
I think it's a mentality thing and why he struggled in his first season,
Morgan came on in a recent home game recently and nothing came off for him & he got alot of criticism,
But I really admired everything he tried to do as he took personal risks to benefit the team and try to win the game, the complete opposite of how Madsen plays the game. | | | |
| Madsen on 20:18 - Jan 21 with 1070 views | joe90 |
Criticism of Madsen was justified. Some of his performances were unacceptable for a professional footballer. I’m pleased he’s found the confidence to play and I agree that he’s now established himself as a key player. Is he Premier League quality? 🤨 Let’s just enjoy his football and not worry about that. |  | | |
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| Madsen on 20:42 - Jan 21 with 1025 views | sdm1508 |
| Madsen on 20:14 - Jan 21 by ParkRoyalR |
I think it's a mentality thing and why he struggled in his first season,
Morgan came on in a recent home game recently and nothing came off for him & he got alot of criticism,
But I really admired everything he tried to do as he took personal risks to benefit the team and try to win the game, the complete opposite of how Madsen plays the game. |
I do think he could attempt to do more but I also think the players could give him more options when he is on the ball. We can see he has the passing ability but maybe he won't force a pass if he doesn't think it is on. I have seen a number of times when he has 'played it safe' he gestures to the person who he wanted to get the ball for not getting in good position. | | | |
| Madsen on 21:15 - Jan 21 with 951 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Madsen on 20:42 - Jan 21 by sdm1508 |
I do think he could attempt to do more but I also think the players could give him more options when he is on the ball. We can see he has the passing ability but maybe he won't force a pass if he doesn't think it is on. I have seen a number of times when he has 'played it safe' he gestures to the person who he wanted to get the ball for not getting in good position. |
Difficult for him to pass to most of them as they can barely control the ball. | | | |
| Madsen on 21:43 - Jan 21 with 892 views | WestbourneR |
| Madsen on 17:23 - Jan 21 by nadera78 |
Maden's turn around from last season's displays is credit worthy, he deserves huge respect for it, but he's not playing in the PL. He's not a good enough footballer to sign for one of the footballing teams, and he's not athletic or physical enough for the more industrial teams. [Post edited 21 Jan 17:25]
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| Madsen (n/t) on 21:55 - Jan 21 with 870 views | WestbourneR |
| Madsen on 19:46 - Jan 21 by stainrods_elbow |
You're right and they're wrong!
To call him Prem quality is risible. He's passable Champ quality at best. Plays in glimpses and creates little or nothing. [Post edited 21 Jan 19:49]
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| Madsen on 22:18 - Jan 21 with 818 views | NW5Hoop |
| Madsen on 19:26 - Jan 21 by ParkRoyalR |
De Bruyne opened up defences, Madsen very very rarely does.
Still a long way from justifying his price tag imo.
Decent assist for Burrell other week, decent cross for Varane's headed goal and that's all I can recall, has a long long way to go.
Might be easy on the eye but he's not hurting poor opposition teams as evidenced in last month. |
Two goals and four assists this season. Always tops passing charts. Often tops tackle and interception charts for midfield. What more do you want him to do?
For much of last season, it seems pretty obvious he was having an ongoing breakdown. Now he's not, and he's no longer terrified of everything. | | | |
| Madsen on 22:36 - Jan 21 with 768 views | OldPedro |
| Madsen on 19:26 - Jan 21 by ParkRoyalR |
De Bruyne opened up defences, Madsen very very rarely does.
Still a long way from justifying his price tag imo.
Decent assist for Burrell other week, decent cross for Varane's headed goal and that's all I can recall, has a long long way to go.
Might be easy on the eye but he's not hurting poor opposition teams as evidenced in last month. |
Interesting choice of player to compare Madsen against when you consider Man City paid £76 million for De Bruyne in 2015. |  |
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| Madsen on 22:38 - Jan 21 with 761 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
| Madsen on 22:18 - Jan 21 by NW5Hoop |
Two goals and four assists this season. Always tops passing charts. Often tops tackle and interception charts for midfield. What more do you want him to do?
For much of last season, it seems pretty obvious he was having an ongoing breakdown. Now he's not, and he's no longer terrified of everything. |
LFW ratings make Madsen our 6th best outfield player. Whoscored ratings our 3rd best.
If he scored 12 goals in a season plus 12 assists Premier teams might show an interest but don't you need to be very good indeed or a few years younger as a Championship player to attract much interest? | | | |
| Madsen on 05:20 - Jan 22 with 559 views | Match82 |
I'm not sure I agree it was acclimatizing, I think we have hit on a system and manager this year that can get the best out of him. He's been great this year, really good, but the very best players are adaptable enough to look good in most systems.
Whether he gets a big move will depend on whether the potential buying team looks at him this season and gets enamoured, or whether they look at his whole body of work and wonder whether they have the right system to bring the best out of him, and at higher levels he doesn't have the talent for someone to create the system around him.
But, it only takes one team to take the first approach...
And let's enjoy the fact for now that this version of Madsen is a big positive for us. |  | | |
| Madsen on 06:05 - Jan 22 with 524 views | PlanetHonneywood |
I go back to 'that' interview at the start of the season in Girona. It was an incredible watch, was surprised he did it and we showed it. Several months on, you can only give credit to all concerned for his improvement.
In fact, you'd go as far as to suggest that if everything in front of him is on it, then he'll play better and so will they. However, our attacking players of late (LCFC first half aside) have looked decidedly ropey. |  |
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| Madsen on 09:10 - Jan 22 with 422 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Madsen on 22:18 - Jan 21 by NW5Hoop |
Two goals and four assists this season. Always tops passing charts. Often tops tackle and interception charts for midfield. What more do you want him to do?
For much of last season, it seems pretty obvious he was having an ongoing breakdown. Now he's not, and he's no longer terrified of everything. |
I think that's fair as regards this season.
I think, though, that we are now being charitable as regards last season's Madsen. He clearly looked unhappy on the pitch, but there was nothing stopping him tackling, and he went many games in a row without tacking even once, and there was nothing stopping him tracking back when we, or even he lost possession, something he failed to do many, many times. Tackling and tracking back are non-negotiables in any team, in any country.
It's important because it cost us goals, and cost us games.
It's important because he's had periods in this season where he has reverted to last season's effort levels.
It's important because he may revert to them again.
Overall, fine season, but he needs to be the new Madsen, not last season's Madsen if we are to progress as a team and if he is to progress as a player. |  |
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| Madsen on 09:43 - Jan 22 with 381 views | SW_Ranger |
Have to say I was a HUGE critic of Nico last year, he was absolutely awful. This season he has, credit to him, stepped up enormously from that very low base. Without doubt the most improved player - he needed to be as I think most would have happily moved him on after last season.
Now he is, mostly, a joy to watch with good touch, forward moving, good vision and aggressive tackling. He’s by no means perfect and does go missing, but he IS what I was expecting last season - so he remains a season behind where he should be. Absolutely over the moon to see him as he is this season though. Do feel he could score a few more goals as he has a good shot on him when it works.
Premiership quality? Not so sure on that.
Here’s hoping though for next season and even more from him. |  | | |
| Madsen on 09:45 - Jan 22 with 376 views | francisbowles |
| Madsen on 09:10 - Jan 22 by BrianMcCarthy |
I think that's fair as regards this season.
I think, though, that we are now being charitable as regards last season's Madsen. He clearly looked unhappy on the pitch, but there was nothing stopping him tackling, and he went many games in a row without tacking even once, and there was nothing stopping him tracking back when we, or even he lost possession, something he failed to do many, many times. Tackling and tracking back are non-negotiables in any team, in any country.
It's important because it cost us goals, and cost us games.
It's important because he's had periods in this season where he has reverted to last season's effort levels.
It's important because he may revert to them again.
Overall, fine season, but he needs to be the new Madsen, not last season's Madsen if we are to progress as a team and if he is to progress as a player. |
It tends to be overlooked that his 'rebirth' came when he was recalled, by Marti, at Oxford last season. A game in which he played well, we won and virtually ended our relegation battle. | | | |
| Madsen on 09:50 - Jan 22 with 368 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Madsen on 09:45 - Jan 22 by francisbowles |
It tends to be overlooked that his 'rebirth' came when he was recalled, by Marti, at Oxford last season. A game in which he played well, we won and virtually ended our relegation battle. |
Ya, he definitely finished last season on an uptick. | |
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| Madsen on 12:50 - Jan 22 with 245 views | TheChef |
Difficult first season - moving to a new country, playing in a new league. And added to that a manager who doesn't fancy you much. That is a lot to deal with.
I'm not going to deal in superlatives but I'm very pleased that Stephan has got him going, long may it continue. |  |
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| Madsen on 13:37 - Jan 22 with 180 views | kensalriser |
| Madsen on 19:18 - Jan 21 by Burnleyhoop |
He’s not that kind of player and never will be. You can dominate a game with the ball. He needs a destroyer beside him.
Don’t recall DeBruyne charging around the pitch tackling box to box. He destroyed teams by moving the ball around in a way that no one could get near him. Admittedly, the players around him knew how to take care of the ball when they received it. |
You've inferred something that wasn't there. There are many ways a player can impose himself on and dominate a game, I've never seen Madsen do it in any way. |  |
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| Madsen on 14:31 - Jan 22 with 101 views | QPROslo |
For me what Madsen has considerably improved on since last season is his defensive work. Clearing, blocking, tackling and intercepting the ball with his long legs, and his reading of the game. He is also winning numerous balls in midfield and some in defence with his head. At Oxford for example he won many loose balls in midfield with his head and got back to block an Oxford player as he was trying to pull the trigger in our penalty area. His forward passing and vision remains excellent now in a deeper position than where he was playing at the end of last season when he was in a better position to assist and score goals. I'd like him to get forward and shoot more again as he has it in him. | | | |
| Madsen on 14:46 - Jan 22 with 64 views | W7Ranger |
| Madsen on 09:10 - Jan 22 by BrianMcCarthy |
I think that's fair as regards this season.
I think, though, that we are now being charitable as regards last season's Madsen. He clearly looked unhappy on the pitch, but there was nothing stopping him tackling, and he went many games in a row without tacking even once, and there was nothing stopping him tracking back when we, or even he lost possession, something he failed to do many, many times. Tackling and tracking back are non-negotiables in any team, in any country.
It's important because it cost us goals, and cost us games.
It's important because he's had periods in this season where he has reverted to last season's effort levels.
It's important because he may revert to them again.
Overall, fine season, but he needs to be the new Madsen, not last season's Madsen if we are to progress as a team and if he is to progress as a player. |
Harsh. |  | | |
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