| paddy's day 16:42 - Mar 15 with 21971 views | digswellhoop |
Why do they majority support paddy day
But not ST George's day? |  | | |  |
| paddy's day on 08:13 - Mar 16 with 2551 views | captainmycaptian |
| paddy's day on 23:33 - Mar 15 by Toast_R |
Thats old hat mate
The latest tradition is the obligatory virtue signal that Saint George was Turkish and would be hounded from UK if he were to set foot here ...etc. |
Yep any rise in English pride is countered with this type of social engineering. Be interesting where the irish nationalism will go with the new wave of immigration into Ireland. Waving the flag in Ireland 🇮🇪 is now not so popular with the newer generation. Much like England has been for decades imo | | | |
| paddy's day on 08:14 - Mar 16 with 2542 views | captainmycaptian |
| paddy's day on 00:07 - Mar 16 by Boston |
With the Normans. |
What have the Norman's ever done for us !..... | | | |
| paddy's day on 09:06 - Mar 16 with 2391 views | flynnbo |
The real anwer to Digwell's post is that it is my birthday on St Patrick's Day-no more no less. |  | | |
| paddy's day on 09:46 - Mar 16 with 2306 views | DannyPaddox |
| paddy's day on 08:14 - Mar 16 by captainmycaptian |
What have the Norman's ever done for us !..... |
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| paddy's day on 10:40 - Mar 16 with 2252 views | PlanetHonneywood |
A few years ago I was back in London visiting Ma. Planet around about this time, and upon entering the house and the kettle having put on for a 'mouthful of ol tae', I noticed something odd: St. Patrick's Day cards!
Consequently, I now see SPD as rivaling Halloween for second spot behind Christmas for the title of: the most commercialised event of the year.
SPD is a money-making wet dream for many businesses around the world. I get it that the diaspora might want a day to remember the old country, perfectly fine with that. However, if you've ever been in the US on SPD, it's embarrassing!
Some feckin eejit who couldn't find Ireland on a map slurring, because he's drinking an actual beer as opposed to Bud Lite, that because his great, great, great grandfather O'Malley came over to the US from County Mayo, that 'I'm Irish' makes me laugh.
I generally avoid the whole faux Irish thing, albeit that I try toast the forebears with a pint at some point. However, the night before my mate and I were to cross into Mexico at the El Paso border for a year in Latin America, there was a SPD weekend (wait for it....on 14-16 March.) I was all for avoiding, but we went after hearing 'Wild Rover' belting out from this Tex Mex dude's jeep early in the day and seeing Irish paraphernalia everywhere in town.
Sweet baby Jesus and the blessed children, the most surreal experience of any night, not just SPD. A few tidbits: The venue was packed and the big ticket item was the Irish marching band, who came out to rapturous applause from the ostensibly, Hispanic/Afro-carrib crowd. They were dressed as Irish Apollo Creeds, playing those old Irish classics you grew up listening to with your parents: the theme tune to Hawaii Five-O, Sam and Dave's Soul Man, and YMCA.
The mosh pit was unusual, don't remember the old man getting annoyed that the Rising Sun in Sudbury didn't have one, but hey-ho, when in El Paso. The Guns and Roses tribute band were replaced by a Madonna impersonator...sheer, jaysus, who could resist voguing for Ireland!
Shamrocks were actually four leaf clovers and no Guinness was available. San Patricio was toasted with Coronas!
Happy SPD to all Irish Rfosi, and to Jimmy, Paul, and of course, Harvey. |  |
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| paddy's day on 12:35 - Mar 16 with 2110 views | HAMRanger |
| paddy's day on 08:16 - Mar 16 by captainmycaptian |
Agreed try flying an English flag without getting a sneer. |
no one likes to be sneered at. must be tough |  | | |
| paddy's day on 12:51 - Mar 16 with 2071 views | themodfather |
it is not a day, it goes on for the weekend if not longer and all a laugh. fly a st george's flag at your risk .
how have we got to this?? | | | |
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| paddy's day on 12:53 - Mar 16 with 2063 views | aston_hoop |
Where does all this stuff about the St. George's flag coming with risks come from? I'm not in England all that often but I was round and about for the Sheff U game and flags were everywhere I went in the country [Post edited 16 Mar 12:54]
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| paddy's day on 14:07 - Mar 16 with 1971 views | dutch |
I've always thought that having to salute flags, sing patriotic songs and worship patron saints is a sign of national insecurity. Either small nations which have been colonised and oppressed or else big nations (USA) which are new and fragile and unsure of who they really are. The fact that the English did not make a fuss of all that stuff was a sign of strength and confidence in our place in the world. I guess all the lamp post climbing and roundabout painting is a sign that is no longer true. Sad. | | | |
| paddy's day on 16:45 - Mar 16 with 1838 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| paddy's day on 12:53 - Mar 16 by aston_hoop |
Where does all this stuff about the St. George's flag coming with risks come from? I'm not in England all that often but I was round and about for the Sheff U game and flags were everywhere I went in the country [Post edited 16 Mar 12:54]
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That's outside the big cities and major towns like London, Birmingham, Bradford, Leicester, Luton, Oldham, Slough, etc. I very much doubt you saw them "everywhere" in Shepherds Bush. Next time you're in England pay a visit to your namesake Aston (Birmingham) and then talk. Until then, one has to wonder why you left England in the first place? Those who took flight (whether out of the country or out of the major cities) are in no position to comment on how things are now for those they left behind if they're going to base their view on distant memories or a desire to virtue signal. Do your homework and acknowledge what it's become. [Post edited 16 Mar 16:52]
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| paddy's day on 16:48 - Mar 16 with 1828 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| paddy's day on 14:07 - Mar 16 by dutch |
I've always thought that having to salute flags, sing patriotic songs and worship patron saints is a sign of national insecurity. Either small nations which have been colonised and oppressed or else big nations (USA) which are new and fragile and unsure of who they really are. The fact that the English did not make a fuss of all that stuff was a sign of strength and confidence in our place in the world. I guess all the lamp post climbing and roundabout painting is a sign that is no longer true. Sad. |
When you're confident in who are you don't need a circus and you don't look back in anger at historical events that didn't go your ancestors' way. | | | |
| paddy's day on 17:07 - Mar 16 with 1799 views | colinallcars |
| paddy's day on 12:35 - Mar 16 by HAMRanger |
no one likes to be sneered at. must be tough |
I would say, by way of reproof - “ 'ere, 'oo yoo sneerin' at John ?”
That'd sort 'em. |  | | |
| paddy's day on 17:56 - Mar 16 with 1734 views | FredManRave |
FAO Clive;
QPR giveth and LFW taketh away.
Twas ever thus. |  |
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| paddy's day on 17:59 - Mar 16 with 1731 views | SK_hoops |
| paddy's day on 16:45 - Mar 16 by Benny_the_Ball |
That's outside the big cities and major towns like London, Birmingham, Bradford, Leicester, Luton, Oldham, Slough, etc. I very much doubt you saw them "everywhere" in Shepherds Bush. Next time you're in England pay a visit to your namesake Aston (Birmingham) and then talk. Until then, one has to wonder why you left England in the first place? Those who took flight (whether out of the country or out of the major cities) are in no position to comment on how things are now for those they left behind if they're going to base their view on distant memories or a desire to virtue signal. Do your homework and acknowledge what it's become. [Post edited 16 Mar 16:52]
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| paddy's day on 18:19 - Mar 16 with 1690 views | willesdenr |
The fact that no one in England really gives a toss for St George is probably steeped in the dim and distant past history. It was George III (a Norman King) who introduced his namesake the Turkish knight as the patron saint of England. Simply because he hated the idea of Anglo Saxon/Danish/Norse/Celtic mix of the then English serfdom from still having St Edmund or St Edward the Confessor as the Patron Saint.
I'm just grateful that Britain is now a mixture of peoples from all over the world, it makes the country something special. In a largely secular country who needs a patron "saint"? | | | |
| paddy's day on 18:39 - Mar 16 with 1652 views | Boston |
| paddy's day on 18:19 - Mar 16 by willesdenr |
The fact that no one in England really gives a toss for St George is probably steeped in the dim and distant past history. It was George III (a Norman King) who introduced his namesake the Turkish knight as the patron saint of England. Simply because he hated the idea of Anglo Saxon/Danish/Norse/Celtic mix of the then English serfdom from still having St Edmund or St Edward the Confessor as the Patron Saint.
I'm just grateful that Britain is now a mixture of peoples from all over the world, it makes the country something special. In a largely secular country who needs a patron "saint"? |
Pardon?
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| paddy's day on 19:19 - Mar 16 with 1619 views | MrSheen |
| paddy's day on 23:19 - Mar 15 by BrianMcCarthy |
The funny thing is, down our way, we don't massively celebrate it, but we hate it being called 'Paddy's Day'.
It's 'St. Patrick's Day' down here, especially amongst those of us who're old enough to have been smeared as 'Paddies', 'Micks' or 'Biddys'. |
I’ve been in Prague over the weekend and some Welsh lads complained the Czechs have gone early with green dye in the beer. |  | | |
| paddy's day on 19:43 - Mar 16 with 1570 views | colinallcars |
| paddy's day on 18:19 - Mar 16 by willesdenr |
The fact that no one in England really gives a toss for St George is probably steeped in the dim and distant past history. It was George III (a Norman King) who introduced his namesake the Turkish knight as the patron saint of England. Simply because he hated the idea of Anglo Saxon/Danish/Norse/Celtic mix of the then English serfdom from still having St Edmund or St Edward the Confessor as the Patron Saint.
I'm just grateful that Britain is now a mixture of peoples from all over the world, it makes the country something special. In a largely secular country who needs a patron "saint"? |
We'd be better off with St Andrew, the patron saint of fishmongers & fishermen. I oft visit St Andrews church next to Fuller's brewery, so two birds with one stone. Loads of interesting stuff in the church about old Chiswick village. | | | |
| paddy's day on 19:54 - Mar 16 with 1560 views | rsocks |
I must be part of a minority group. | | | |
| paddy's day on 21:03 - Mar 16 with 1520 views | hubble |
| paddy's day on 18:19 - Mar 16 by willesdenr |
The fact that no one in England really gives a toss for St George is probably steeped in the dim and distant past history. It was George III (a Norman King) who introduced his namesake the Turkish knight as the patron saint of England. Simply because he hated the idea of Anglo Saxon/Danish/Norse/Celtic mix of the then English serfdom from still having St Edmund or St Edward the Confessor as the Patron Saint.
I'm just grateful that Britain is now a mixture of peoples from all over the world, it makes the country something special. In a largely secular country who needs a patron "saint"? |
Erm, slight point of order: it was in fact Edward III, not George III (very different kings!), who declared St George Patron Saint of England. This was in 1348. Not sure where you got the George III who chose his namesake as patron saint from.
Before that, the patron saint of England was indeed Edmund the Martyr, King of East Anglia in the 9th century AD, who became St. Edmund after his death. His banner was the White Dragon - which I rather like.
However, St Edmund’s influence began to fade when, during the Third Crusade in 1199, King Richard I visited the tomb of St. George in Lydda on the eve of battle. The next day he won a great victory. Following this triumph, Richard adopted St. George as his personal patron and protector of the army. Although the banner of St. Edmund was still carried into battle by the English army, by the time of Edward I it had been joined by the flag of St. George.
Then, in 1348, Edward III founded a new order of chivalry, the Knights of the Garter and made St George the patron of the Order, and also made George our patron saint. |  |
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| paddy's day on 21:08 - Mar 16 with 1505 views | Boston |
| paddy's day on 19:19 - Mar 16 by MrSheen |
I’ve been in Prague over the weekend and some Welsh lads complained the Czechs have gone early with green dye in the beer. |
There ya go ya English b@Rst*rd, can't even get the Dai right! | |
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| paddy's day on 21:20 - Mar 16 with 1486 views | colinallcars |
| paddy's day on 21:03 - Mar 16 by hubble |
Erm, slight point of order: it was in fact Edward III, not George III (very different kings!), who declared St George Patron Saint of England. This was in 1348. Not sure where you got the George III who chose his namesake as patron saint from.
Before that, the patron saint of England was indeed Edmund the Martyr, King of East Anglia in the 9th century AD, who became St. Edmund after his death. His banner was the White Dragon - which I rather like.
However, St Edmund’s influence began to fade when, during the Third Crusade in 1199, King Richard I visited the tomb of St. George in Lydda on the eve of battle. The next day he won a great victory. Following this triumph, Richard adopted St. George as his personal patron and protector of the army. Although the banner of St. Edmund was still carried into battle by the English army, by the time of Edward I it had been joined by the flag of St. George.
Then, in 1348, Edward III founded a new order of chivalry, the Knights of the Garter and made St George the patron of the Order, and also made George our patron saint. |
I keep thinking I've been in a pub called the Knights of the Garter but can't for the life of me think where. | | | |
| paddy's day on 21:53 - Mar 16 with 1417 views | willesdenr |
| paddy's day on 21:03 - Mar 16 by hubble |
Erm, slight point of order: it was in fact Edward III, not George III (very different kings!), who declared St George Patron Saint of England. This was in 1348. Not sure where you got the George III who chose his namesake as patron saint from.
Before that, the patron saint of England was indeed Edmund the Martyr, King of East Anglia in the 9th century AD, who became St. Edmund after his death. His banner was the White Dragon - which I rather like.
However, St Edmund’s influence began to fade when, during the Third Crusade in 1199, King Richard I visited the tomb of St. George in Lydda on the eve of battle. The next day he won a great victory. Following this triumph, Richard adopted St. George as his personal patron and protector of the army. Although the banner of St. Edmund was still carried into battle by the English army, by the time of Edward I it had been joined by the flag of St. George.
Then, in 1348, Edward III founded a new order of chivalry, the Knights of the Garter and made St George the patron of the Order, and also made George our patron saint. |
Point of order embarrassingly accepted. Yes Edward III hence my saying Norman king. I definitely did not mean the mad German king. The point I was trying to make, very badly, was that Saint George was hoisted on the English, even if we had started to forget who we were. | | | |
| paddy's day on 22:53 - Mar 16 with 1582 views | HAMRanger |
well done... you've just won the stupidest post award! | | | |
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I've seen it with my own eyes on several occasions. Try leaving your bubble once in a while to see how the other half live. 
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