| Luton’s new ground 20:17 - Nov 10 with 4118 views | loftboy |
Seems to be going up quickly, 25000 capacity which is probably the size we need, surely one of our stands could be reconfigured to give us just that little bit more?
I know this has been done to death but has a part reconstruction been considered where we are?
I know Ellerslie Road is a no go but could we utilise the space behind the loft or even South Africa Road? Even if it means ending up with one side of the ground bigger than the rest. |  |
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| Luton’s new ground on 20:25 - Nov 10 with 0 views | connell10 |
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| Luton’s new ground on 20:37 - Nov 10 with 0 views | PunteR |
Unfortunately its still in Luton. |  |
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| Luton’s new ground on 20:55 - Nov 10 with 0 views | londonscottish |
| Luton’s new ground on 20:37 - Nov 10 by PunteR |
Unfortunately its still in Luton. |
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| Luton’s new ground on 21:15 - Nov 10 with 0 views | connell10 |
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| Luton’s new ground on 07:59 - Nov 11 with 0 views | Juzzie |
I know there’s a sort of rivalry but fair play to them. They’ve been trying for decades and getting into the PL even if for just one season pretty much bankrolled this.
Having a good stadium for years ahead is far more important than one season in the PL in a tin can. |  | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 08:24 - Nov 11 with 0 views | langtoft |
interesting stuff - not sure I've seen these, or discussion about them, before.
Thanks for posting but any additional context? |  | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 08:59 - Nov 11 with 0 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Two toughts arising from these imaginings.
1. How would such high sided stands impact light and airflow around the pitch?
The pitch currently looks good. But we know that the ER Stand has never allowed proper light to get to the pitch, and as airflow important, how would higher stands adjacent/opposite affect this?
2. How steep would the stands be?
I was at the Plenitude Arena in Paris on Friday, and I must admit to finding the steepness of the stand I was in, a tad scary.
In the absence of land acquisition behind the stands/building over SA Road itself, I fear if we want a bigger ground, we'll need to build our new Jerusalem on another piece of England's green and pleasant land. Assuming we can't dig down of course!! |  |
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| Luton’s new ground on 09:29 - Nov 11 with 0 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Luton’s new ground on 08:59 - Nov 11 by PlanetHonneywood |
Two toughts arising from these imaginings.
1. How would such high sided stands impact light and airflow around the pitch?
The pitch currently looks good. But we know that the ER Stand has never allowed proper light to get to the pitch, and as airflow important, how would higher stands adjacent/opposite affect this?
2. How steep would the stands be?
I was at the Plenitude Arena in Paris on Friday, and I must admit to finding the steepness of the stand I was in, a tad scary.
In the absence of land acquisition behind the stands/building over SA Road itself, I fear if we want a bigger ground, we'll need to build our new Jerusalem on another piece of England's green and pleasant land. Assuming we can't dig down of course!! |
Even if (for some reason) upgrading the ground is not a priority for the owners and management, there must be some simple maths going on at some point. We're barely above mid table in the Championship and we are selling out, for Lincoln, at home.
What would the crowd have been if we had a Loftus Road with 5,000 more capacity?
Never mind the fact that I arrived quite late for the Burnley game, hadn't had a chance to get any dinner so tried to get some at half time. Certainly wasn't full that day but I couldn't face the ridiculous queues for the (abysmal) Loft catering or the (also pretty dire) burger van behind the stand.
TK will shout at me, but how much longer can this lost potential revenue go on for? Game after game after game. |  | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 10:14 - Nov 11 with 0 views | Juzzie |
oh god..... not again....... | | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 10:16 - Nov 11 with 0 views | flynnbo |
I pass it regularly. It features on Sky’s Lost Grounds series. |  | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 10:38 - Nov 11 with 0 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Luton’s new ground on 10:14 - Nov 11 by Juzzie |
oh god..... not again....... |
The debate sure has been done to death on here, no doubt about that. The problem is, Juzzie, at this rate you will be posting that comment in 5 years time, then 10 years time....I think the fans should be raising it, constantly, until we see some evidence of a plan. The place can't just be left to rot. | | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 11:02 - Nov 11 with 0 views | Juzzie |
| Luton’s new ground on 10:38 - Nov 11 by GaryBannister86 |
The debate sure has been done to death on here, no doubt about that. The problem is, Juzzie, at this rate you will be posting that comment in 5 years time, then 10 years time....I think the fans should be raising it, constantly, until we see some evidence of a plan. The place can't just be left to rot. |
It's not even 5 years... it's every few months!
This one from last month;
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/
This one from April;
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/
I could be wrong but I'm not sure raising it on here every few months will do anything unless the owners read LFW.
Finally... I thought this is a thread about Luton's new ground? [Post edited 11 Nov 11:05]
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| Luton’s new ground on 12:12 - Nov 11 with 0 views | TK1 |
| Luton’s new ground on 10:38 - Nov 11 by GaryBannister86 |
The debate sure has been done to death on here, no doubt about that. The problem is, Juzzie, at this rate you will be posting that comment in 5 years time, then 10 years time....I think the fans should be raising it, constantly, until we see some evidence of a plan. The place can't just be left to rot. |
We can't have this circular debate every few weeks, though. It's mentally ill.
"The fans" shouldn't be raising it if they don't care about it. I don't. So don't raise it in my name, thanks. You raise it with the club if you care so much, get a petition for...I don't know.
What do you want the club to do? Buy a new plot of land nearby in NW10 that accommodates 30k fans, hotel, bowling or whatever? Knock LR down, close SA Road, relocate the school and rebuild three sides of the ground, including flats/hotel, while the team groundshare at Brentford for two years?
The club have both of those options in play. They are not going announce anything until they can legally so I remain unsure what you desire from them. They won't tell us what injury our players have. They're not going to tell you about the most consequential decision the club can make in 100 years.
If anyone thinks that a Malaysian shipping magnet is spending £20m+ a year on a middling second-tier central London football club situated in an area that has been entirely rebuilt other than its particular footprint and the social housing estate that neighbours it for a laugh, something to do...you are badly mistaken.
They don't refurbish anywhere at LR other than the directors' area for the simple reason that at some point, they'll knock the whole thing down. They may well rebuild a stadium upon that site or they may build a stadium a few miles north. But it's always been the end game. And they're not going to announce that until every i is dotted.
Supporters raising it constantly is therefore an abject exercise in total futility. The goal of Ruben Gnanalingam is the same as Tony Fernandes when he announced the new ground 13 years ago. But RG is not going to make the same mistakes his old pal did in press releasing or telling fans before the deed is done. | | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 12:29 - Nov 11 with 0 views | DavieQPR |
Same old chestnut but how much would you expect to earn to travel from home to the ground for less than 30 mins work and then go home smelling of burgers. |  | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 12:54 - Nov 11 with 0 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Luton’s new ground on 12:12 - Nov 11 by TK1 |
We can't have this circular debate every few weeks, though. It's mentally ill.
"The fans" shouldn't be raising it if they don't care about it. I don't. So don't raise it in my name, thanks. You raise it with the club if you care so much, get a petition for...I don't know.
What do you want the club to do? Buy a new plot of land nearby in NW10 that accommodates 30k fans, hotel, bowling or whatever? Knock LR down, close SA Road, relocate the school and rebuild three sides of the ground, including flats/hotel, while the team groundshare at Brentford for two years?
The club have both of those options in play. They are not going announce anything until they can legally so I remain unsure what you desire from them. They won't tell us what injury our players have. They're not going to tell you about the most consequential decision the club can make in 100 years.
If anyone thinks that a Malaysian shipping magnet is spending £20m+ a year on a middling second-tier central London football club situated in an area that has been entirely rebuilt other than its particular footprint and the social housing estate that neighbours it for a laugh, something to do...you are badly mistaken.
They don't refurbish anywhere at LR other than the directors' area for the simple reason that at some point, they'll knock the whole thing down. They may well rebuild a stadium upon that site or they may build a stadium a few miles north. But it's always been the end game. And they're not going to announce that until every i is dotted.
Supporters raising it constantly is therefore an abject exercise in total futility. The goal of Ruben Gnanalingam is the same as Tony Fernandes when he announced the new ground 13 years ago. But RG is not going to make the same mistakes his old pal did in press releasing or telling fans before the deed is done. |
"mentally ill", "don't speak for me thanks", "raise a petition"
Sigh. If it upsets you so much that you need to be so stressed and offensive in your tone, I'm out. Won't mention it again, it's meant to be interesting and fun to debate things, not getting so wound up about it.
You seem to know what Ruben has planned, I am guessing you aren't happy about it. I'm just talking about it from the point of a view of a fan who knows none of these things and just sees the bare facts of Loftus Road having no investment. Not sure why that means you have to set out to ridicule. | | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 14:14 - Nov 11 with 0 views | TheChef |
Haha clearly you pushed someone's button 
It'll be a sad day when we eventually leave LR, but I suppose if we want to develop as a club and grow our revenue (urgh) then we'll need to build a new stadium somewhere.
Having said that, if we fluke our way back to the Prem soon and actually manage to stay there for two, three seasons or more, then surely the financial windfall from that would mitigate the need for a new stadium? I mean Bournemouth's stadium I think is smaller than LR, and they seem to do just fine. Although I don't know how their corporate facilities compare to ours, for starters.
Anyway I'm happy to keep enjoying LR as the great football venue that it is, even if if does have a few imperfections (er, leg room...); the fact we seem to sell out most home matches also suggests that in some respects, things are working well on and off the pitch.
Oh and coming back to the OP, good luck to Loo Town filling 25,000 seats in League One. |  |
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| Luton’s new ground on 14:53 - Nov 11 with 0 views | kensalriser |
| Luton’s new ground on 08:59 - Nov 11 by PlanetHonneywood |
Two toughts arising from these imaginings.
1. How would such high sided stands impact light and airflow around the pitch?
The pitch currently looks good. But we know that the ER Stand has never allowed proper light to get to the pitch, and as airflow important, how would higher stands adjacent/opposite affect this?
2. How steep would the stands be?
I was at the Plenitude Arena in Paris on Friday, and I must admit to finding the steepness of the stand I was in, a tad scary.
In the absence of land acquisition behind the stands/building over SA Road itself, I fear if we want a bigger ground, we'll need to build our new Jerusalem on another piece of England's green and pleasant land. Assuming we can't dig down of course!! |
OK, so if we put a new tier on SAR it'll have to be perspex with some giant fans attached? No problem. Why haven't we already done that anyway? People with vertigo can sit in the lower school end. [Post edited 11 Nov 14:55]
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| Luton’s new ground on 15:10 - Nov 11 with 0 views | CamberleyR |
| Luton’s new ground on 14:14 - Nov 11 by TheChef |
Haha clearly you pushed someone's button
It'll be a sad day when we eventually leave LR, but I suppose if we want to develop as a club and grow our revenue (urgh) then we'll need to build a new stadium somewhere.
Having said that, if we fluke our way back to the Prem soon and actually manage to stay there for two, three seasons or more, then surely the financial windfall from that would mitigate the need for a new stadium? I mean Bournemouth's stadium I think is smaller than LR, and they seem to do just fine. Although I don't know how their corporate facilities compare to ours, for starters.
Anyway I'm happy to keep enjoying LR as the great football venue that it is, even if if does have a few imperfections (er, leg room...); the fact we seem to sell out most home matches also suggests that in some respects, things are working well on and off the pitch.
Oh and coming back to the OP, good luck to Loo Town filling 25,000 seats in League One. |
Bournemouth though have still realised the fact that realistically their capacity is too small in the long term and are looking to nearly double it to just over 20,000 which is costing £85-90m and they hope to have it completed for the start of the 2027/28 season. |  |
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| Luton’s new ground on 15:35 - Nov 11 with 0 views | TheChef |
| Luton’s new ground on 15:10 - Nov 11 by CamberleyR |
Bournemouth though have still realised the fact that realistically their capacity is too small in the long term and are looking to nearly double it to just over 20,000 which is costing £85-90m and they hope to have it completed for the start of the 2027/28 season. |
Ah interesting, cheers. And they have more space to develop as well. | |
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| Luton’s new ground on 16:35 - Nov 11 with 0 views | TK1 |
| Luton’s new ground on 12:54 - Nov 11 by GaryBannister86 |
"mentally ill", "don't speak for me thanks", "raise a petition"
Sigh. If it upsets you so much that you need to be so stressed and offensive in your tone, I'm out. Won't mention it again, it's meant to be interesting and fun to debate things, not getting so wound up about it.
You seem to know what Ruben has planned, I am guessing you aren't happy about it. I'm just talking about it from the point of a view of a fan who knows none of these things and just sees the bare facts of Loftus Road having no investment. Not sure why that means you have to set out to ridicule. |
Apologies. Tone was wrong.
I'm not calling you mentally ill, I'm calling the fact that every few months we - by we I mean the Loft For Words community - have exactly the same conversation mentally ill and that it doesn't advance anything at all. Juzzie has kindly shown the thread you started about it this year. That seems sufficient.
I feel it's OK, though, to respond to you saying "I think the fans should be raising it, constantly, until we see some evidence of a plan" with don't speak for me thanks, because I disagree. "The fans" are not of one mind on this. On a public forum, if someone states as fact something that someone disagrees with it's fine to say that.
I'm actually neither stressed nor upset by it. I just disagree. But what will be. I may well be dead by time it happens - fingers crossed.
As I said earlier, the club won't tell fans what injuries have kept Burrell and Madsen out. They're not going to tell us about a new ground or a refurbished LR until they can.
You don't have to have any personal insight into the club's commissioned work for a refurbished LR to know their plans though. All the clues are out there. The club's 75% majority owner was the same Malaysian shipping magnet on the board when they announced a new ground in 2013. The ambition's the same.
Project Big Ben was widely reported on in 2024, a pitch sent to the city seeking investors to help “produce a state-of-the-art, multi-purpose stadium, as part of a major regeneration in West London.”
They've never said this is not the aim. Take them at their word. | | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 16:39 - Nov 11 with 0 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Luton’s new ground on 16:35 - Nov 11 by TK1 |
Apologies. Tone was wrong.
I'm not calling you mentally ill, I'm calling the fact that every few months we - by we I mean the Loft For Words community - have exactly the same conversation mentally ill and that it doesn't advance anything at all. Juzzie has kindly shown the thread you started about it this year. That seems sufficient.
I feel it's OK, though, to respond to you saying "I think the fans should be raising it, constantly, until we see some evidence of a plan" with don't speak for me thanks, because I disagree. "The fans" are not of one mind on this. On a public forum, if someone states as fact something that someone disagrees with it's fine to say that.
I'm actually neither stressed nor upset by it. I just disagree. But what will be. I may well be dead by time it happens - fingers crossed.
As I said earlier, the club won't tell fans what injuries have kept Burrell and Madsen out. They're not going to tell us about a new ground or a refurbished LR until they can.
You don't have to have any personal insight into the club's commissioned work for a refurbished LR to know their plans though. All the clues are out there. The club's 75% majority owner was the same Malaysian shipping magnet on the board when they announced a new ground in 2013. The ambition's the same.
Project Big Ben was widely reported on in 2024, a pitch sent to the city seeking investors to help “produce a state-of-the-art, multi-purpose stadium, as part of a major regeneration in West London.”
They've never said this is not the aim. Take them at their word. |
Thanks, TK - and I hear you. I get it.
I always hate it when people mention the fans as one allegedly singular-thinking body, so mea culpa, I agree, sorry for that. | | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 18:51 - Nov 11 with 0 views | kernowhoop |
Dig down?
Adapted from advice to Benjamin in 'The Graduate'...
"I just want to say two words to you... just two words... are you listening? Water table." | | | |
| Luton’s new ground on 19:02 - Nov 11 with 0 views | Dorse |
| Luton’s new ground on 18:51 - Nov 11 by kernowhoop |
Dig down?
Adapted from advice to Benjamin in 'The Graduate'...
"I just want to say two words to you... just two words... are you listening? Water table." |
'The dwarves delved too greedily and too deep...'
I mean, that's all we fcking need. A fcking Balrog. You think we've got injuries now? |  |
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| Luton’s new ground on 14:36 - Nov 12 with 0 views | R_from_afar |
| Luton’s new ground on 14:14 - Nov 11 by TheChef |
Haha clearly you pushed someone's button
It'll be a sad day when we eventually leave LR, but I suppose if we want to develop as a club and grow our revenue (urgh) then we'll need to build a new stadium somewhere.
Having said that, if we fluke our way back to the Prem soon and actually manage to stay there for two, three seasons or more, then surely the financial windfall from that would mitigate the need for a new stadium? I mean Bournemouth's stadium I think is smaller than LR, and they seem to do just fine. Although I don't know how their corporate facilities compare to ours, for starters.
Anyway I'm happy to keep enjoying LR as the great football venue that it is, even if if does have a few imperfections (er, leg room...); the fact we seem to sell out most home matches also suggests that in some respects, things are working well on and off the pitch.
Oh and coming back to the OP, good luck to Loo Town filling 25,000 seats in League One. |
"surely the financial windfall from that would mitigate the need for a new stadium".
For me, this has conjured up the image of Nourry stood in the Shepherds Bush branch of Nationwide.
Nourry: I'd like to open a cash ISA please.
Sales assistant: Certainly, sir, how much would you like to invest?
Nourry: £200m, please. |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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