| loans 00:50 - Jun 22 with 3082 views | digswellhoop |
get rid of them you have a squad use it if you need to use youngsters doit loans of you go up dont represent your club |  | | |  |
| loans on 14:23 - Jun 22 with 2828 views | PinnerPaul |
Many problems with that approach.
Generally accepted at ALL levels that its difficult to jump from age related football to open age.
Also generally accepted that you can't jump from a few games at one level to one 2 or 3 above without gaining interim experience.
The 'freaks' who have done just that, are outnumbered by the very many who have benefitted from the stepped approach.
As far as we are concerned and indeed most Pl and EFL clubs, its generally accepted that apart from the Sterling's of this world, its very difficult to jump from U18s/U23s football to first team action in the top 2 divisions.
Soooo if you accept all that and the fact that anyone who has scored double figures in any of the top 4 leagues comes with a millions £ price tag, then you have the loan market for older players.
Not all loans work, but then not all perm transfers work and certainly the majority of U18s/U23s playing are not going to make it as regular Championship/PL players. | | | |
| loans on 14:26 - Jun 22 with 2812 views | TheChef |
Yeah it's not as black and white as that Diggers.
Shame how Loftgirl has to downvote you every time  |  |
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| loans on 17:03 - Jun 22 with 2658 views | Tonto |
Luke Amos was a loan first. Just saying. |  |
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| loans on 19:17 - Jun 22 with 2514 views | DubaiR |
Without the loans two seasons ago we could be playing in League 1 |  | | |
| loans on 19:24 - Jun 22 with 2484 views | LazyFan |
It does allow us a try before you buy. Which we have had success with, recently.
Strikers cost money, more than we have unless we take a risk on players like Dykes and Bonne.
If one can manage to sneak a Prem striker on loan somehow, it can then give you a massive advantage over the other teams if they cannot. Sure that can put back a youth so, we have to be careful and balance it well
This was Warbs problem, he basically bet his job on experienced loans and they let him down. He had no balance as he didn't really give the youth many chances for a period of time.
Hopefully, we get to see more of these young and hungry players, other wise why do we have them? Possibly to develop for other clubs to take advantage of? Crackers that.
Use em or lose em. |  |
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| loans on 20:22 - Jun 22 with 2378 views | colinallcars |
We've had mixed luck with loans as, I suppose have most clubs.
I agree with the sentiment though, it's better to have a full team of ‘our own’ players. |  | | |
| loans on 23:30 - Jun 22 with 2249 views | distortR |
| loans on 20:22 - Jun 22 by colinallcars |
We've had mixed luck with loans as, I suppose have most clubs.
I agree with the sentiment though, it's better to have a full team of ‘our own’ players. |
I'm happy to take loans with an arranged transfer clause if it works, but on the whole I'm not that interested in us getting other team's players up to speed for them. | | | |
| loans on 23:38 - Jun 22 with 2239 views | davman |
| loans on 19:24 - Jun 22 by LazyFan |
It does allow us a try before you buy. Which we have had success with, recently.
Strikers cost money, more than we have unless we take a risk on players like Dykes and Bonne.
If one can manage to sneak a Prem striker on loan somehow, it can then give you a massive advantage over the other teams if they cannot. Sure that can put back a youth so, we have to be careful and balance it well
This was Warbs problem, he basically bet his job on experienced loans and they let him down. He had no balance as he didn't really give the youth many chances for a period of time.
Hopefully, we get to see more of these young and hungry players, other wise why do we have them? Possibly to develop for other clubs to take advantage of? Crackers that.
Use em or lose em. |
You're right on the try before you buy, but that can backfire as it did with Nakhi Wells - he does well and then buggered off for the second half of the season. De Wijs and Field were excellent bits of business if it weren't for Jordy's injuries, so as the others have said, you win some, you lose some.
Bottom line is that it is a way of getting a better player in that we could afford to own and I sense that we are going to need one of them up front this season... |  |
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| loans on 23:59 - Jun 22 with 2213 views | SydneyRs |
Hugill, Wells, Austin and even Gray were all loans that produced a benefit beyond what we already had.
The loan market has got others promoted in the past. Of course its a gamble but you'd hope Beale has some good contacts to maybe reduce the risk. | | | |
| loans on 00:28 - Jun 23 with 2196 views | LythamR |
i am not completely averse to loans but doesnt every loan block a development pathway for one of our own which i thought was meant to be essential to the clubs plan. |  | | |
| loans on 06:47 - Jun 23 with 2103 views | dmm |
Looking at the loan system another way, some of the 23s who have been released this summer have been signed by clubs at which they were on loan last season, such as Kai Woollard-Innocent now at Eastbourne and Franklin Domi now at Ebbsfleet.
It looked like the club intentionally loaned out a number of 23s in the last months of the season to help secure their footballing future following their release from QPR. |  | | |
| loans on 08:37 - Jun 23 with 1983 views | Blue_Castello |
| loans on 23:59 - Jun 22 by SydneyRs |
Hugill, Wells, Austin and even Gray were all loans that produced a benefit beyond what we already had.
The loan market has got others promoted in the past. Of course its a gamble but you'd hope Beale has some good contacts to maybe reduce the risk. |
The loan market helped massively get Forest promoted last year, they had Spence, Garner, Davies and Zinkernagel on loan, all quality players who were first choice playing at the top of their game to get Forest the massive payday which the Premiership provides.
In an ideal world we don't loan any players because our squad is stacked with quality that can compete against the better teams, problem there is we are lacking in certain areas and don't have much money, mainly due to FFP/P and L on the spreadsheet.
In an ideal world we just promote our own youth but that could have you battling relegation, it's a fine line something that the Manager and DOF get paid to make the ultimate decision, getting top quality loans who can improve the squad in certain positions definitely has its advantages, anyone fancy another Kyle Walker on loan......  | | | |
| loans on 08:49 - Jun 23 with 1960 views | dmm |
| loans on 08:37 - Jun 23 by Blue_Castello |
The loan market helped massively get Forest promoted last year, they had Spence, Garner, Davies and Zinkernagel on loan, all quality players who were first choice playing at the top of their game to get Forest the massive payday which the Premiership provides.
In an ideal world we don't loan any players because our squad is stacked with quality that can compete against the better teams, problem there is we are lacking in certain areas and don't have much money, mainly due to FFP/P and L on the spreadsheet.
In an ideal world we just promote our own youth but that could have you battling relegation, it's a fine line something that the Manager and DOF get paid to make the ultimate decision, getting top quality loans who can improve the squad in certain positions definitely has its advantages, anyone fancy another Kyle Walker on loan...... |
In what must have been his home loan debut for us in 2010, I remember Walker leaving his marker for dead as he belted down the right wing. As he showed his pace there was an audible gasp from the crowd! | | | |
| loans on 12:33 - Jun 26 with 1633 views | themodfather |
years ago after a match at cardiff our Olly was talking to the press and said clubs who are clveer and use loans well could benefit....not verbatim but along those lines, he wasn't wrong, almost every club uses the loan system, some work some don't but if you get lucky it can boost your team...jimmy smith, adel, routledge come to mind.
craig bellamy going to cardiff was good for them. kyle walker for us was one of the best , keep loans imo | | | |
| loans on 13:05 - Jun 26 with 1530 views | Dorse |
I'd love to think we had a youth team full of dead certs but, if Man U, Liverpool etc can't do it, it's very unlikely that we can.
With regards to loans, we have to remember that the door swings both ways. Bristol Rovers fans still think Lumley was one of the best they'd seen; Stevenage and Wycombe both think the same about Chair and Eze. In order to get this team of young players ready to become the guts of the QPR 2025/6 Champions squad, they need to play. And while they're off doing that, loaning someone to keep their spot warm might not be the worst idea. Unless we get the 2022 version of Tamas Priskin. |  |
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