| Digital Cameras 20:34 - Aug 8 with 4521 views | colinallcars |
The Beeb saying people are reverting to digital cameras as the picture quality is better than their phones.
Cor !! Ooda thought it ?
I wonder if they'll realise music sounds better if you play a record through a quality hi fi system ?
No, that's going too far. |  | | |  |
| Digital Cameras on 21:42 - Aug 8 with 4304 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Did it also say: The BBC has asked Apple and Samsung for comments. |  |
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| Digital Cameras on 23:15 - Aug 8 with 4121 views | Juzzie |
Smartphones are great as an all-round one-stop-shop convenient compromise for things like photos and music but you absolutely cannot beat a proper camera and music player.
I have quite a few cameras and the pictures I take at my son’s football matches are head and shoulders above anything a phone can do.
The secret is that it’s fk all to do with megapixels, that’s on the whole a marketing gimmick, it’s all about the lens.
My 20 year old 2mp Konica Minolta with a decent Sigma lens will out perform most smartphones for actual image quality. Smartphones., IMO, rely on fancy filters to make pictures look good.
You only need huge megapixels if you’re going to do detailed photoshop work or need to print/display at large sizes. For 99% of us, it’s just a waste of memory space.
I’ve always invested in decent lenses…. a 50mm f1.4 prime and 70-200mm IS f4 zoom (the classic Canon white body range of lenses) does me well.
I have a few ‘carry around’ cameras too, including. Canon G10, Fijifilm XP130 (waterproof so good for holidays)
For music I have a Fiio digital audio player. [Post edited 8 Aug 23:17]
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| Digital Cameras on 09:07 - Aug 9 with 3736 views | rbee |
Got my first digital camera in the late 90's and it soon became essential for my work. Every 5 or so years I would buy a new one in a sale, £99.99 down from £299.99 as a newer model had come out.
When the iPhone 7 came out I started taking photos with it and my digital camera, I would then compare the two. It soon became obvious that I no longer needed the digital camera. Never made sense to me given the difference in sensor size.
Can't comment on holiday snaps as it's been a long time since I saw things like the Hanging Gardens of Babylon or herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically across the plain. |  | | |
| Digital Cameras on 09:13 - Aug 9 with 3726 views | Watford_Ranger |
One of my old man opinions as I approach middle age is that life was a lot better when, if anyone had a camera at all, it was one they’d have to pick their moments for their 20 photos for the evening to then get developed the next day or at worst you’d have one keeno with a proper camera. The whole world having a camera on them all day every day is crap IMO. |  | | |
| Digital Cameras on 10:37 - Aug 9 with 3567 views | Juzzie |
| Digital Cameras on 09:07 - Aug 9 by rbee |
Got my first digital camera in the late 90's and it soon became essential for my work. Every 5 or so years I would buy a new one in a sale, £99.99 down from £299.99 as a newer model had come out.
When the iPhone 7 came out I started taking photos with it and my digital camera, I would then compare the two. It soon became obvious that I no longer needed the digital camera. Never made sense to me given the difference in sensor size.
Can't comment on holiday snaps as it's been a long time since I saw things like the Hanging Gardens of Babylon or herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically across the plain. |
If the requirement is to take pictures close up and not moving and primarily for reference then you can’t beat a modern phone.
I went to London Zoo with my daughter in the spring and got some good close up’s of butterflies with my phone because they just sat there in the leaf. Anything a bit further away and moving (penguins in the pool) I used my G10.
The limitations phones have is zoom distance (digital zoom doesn’t count) and lens quality.
I’m going on holiday soon with the kids and will use my XP130.
I guess we’re spoilt for choice now, which is not a bad thing. | | | |
| Digital Cameras on 10:44 - Aug 9 with 3556 views | Juzzie |
| Digital Cameras on 09:13 - Aug 9 by Watford_Ranger |
One of my old man opinions as I approach middle age is that life was a lot better when, if anyone had a camera at all, it was one they’d have to pick their moments for their 20 photos for the evening to then get developed the next day or at worst you’d have one keeno with a proper camera. The whole world having a camera on them all day every day is crap IMO. |
I have so few pictures of my brother and I as kids and I remember so little of growing up.
I have thousands (I do need to delete a lot of the unnecessary ones though!) of my kids over the last dozen years and they are so good to remember things I clearly forgot about and will be great for them to see when they’re older.
I do/have done quite a lot of sports photography over the years and digital cameras are brilliant for that. At my son’s football I can take around 350 pictures (I have 6 frames a second and take pictures in bursts) and will select and keep the best 50 or so which I put on the teams WhatsApp group which all the parents and kids love seeing.
A 35mm roll of film means by the time you think a picture is worth taking, the moment has gone.
I’m probably as guilty as the next person for taking lots of pictures but I’m glad I’m able to.
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| Digital Cameras on 13:07 - Aug 9 with 3403 views | kensalriser |
| Digital Cameras on 10:44 - Aug 9 by Juzzie |
I have so few pictures of my brother and I as kids and I remember so little of growing up.
I have thousands (I do need to delete a lot of the unnecessary ones though!) of my kids over the last dozen years and they are so good to remember things I clearly forgot about and will be great for them to see when they’re older.
I do/have done quite a lot of sports photography over the years and digital cameras are brilliant for that. At my son’s football I can take around 350 pictures (I have 6 frames a second and take pictures in bursts) and will select and keep the best 50 or so which I put on the teams WhatsApp group which all the parents and kids love seeing.
A 35mm roll of film means by the time you think a picture is worth taking, the moment has gone.
I’m probably as guilty as the next person for taking lots of pictures but I’m glad I’m able to.
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Motor drives existed long before digital!
A bit expensive for amateurs but essential for pro sports photographers where getting the right shot eclipsed the cost of film wastage. |  |
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| Digital Cameras on 13:57 - Aug 9 with 3340 views | HantsR |
I've owned a variety of cameras in my time, from the Brownie 127 of my childhood, through a Praktika Super TL for my first SLR, later a Pentax K2 and Nikonos underwater camera plus others (still got most of them). Until I bought the gear to develop and printed B/W photos, I was dependent on Snappy Snaps or whatever to see how my photos looked - many were poor or indifferent, similar with positive transparencies of which I have thousands of African Wildlife pictures amongst others.
Anyway, I'm very happy to now have some Nikon andf Canon Digital SLRs with a variety of lenses, especially valuable for wildlife photography that I can view and edit straightaway. I often need tens of photos for individual shots of flying birds or insects to get one or two decent ones (I'm also probably a lousy photographer!).
The quality of Optical Zoom in a Digital SLR is obviously better than the Digital zoom, but I have great admiration for the Smart phone cameras, that can take some brilliant photos and movies. A great example was a couple of years ago, on the island of Skomer at midnight, when we witnessed an Aurora Borealis. The colours were just about visible to the naked eye but the opportunity shots that I took with my Samsung Smart phone were fabulous! |  | | |
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| Digital Cameras on 16:26 - Aug 9 with 3125 views | Hayesender |
This is just the thread I'm looking for. Ive been looking at getting myself a decent but reasonably priced digital camera for a few weeks, but as someone who knows eff all about this stuff, ive got no idea what to get. Has to be easy to use as well.
Any recommendations from someone who has half a clue would be much appreciated |  |
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| Digital Cameras on 16:43 - Aug 9 with 3105 views | Juzzie |
| Digital Cameras on 16:26 - Aug 9 by Hayesender |
This is just the thread I'm looking for. Ive been looking at getting myself a decent but reasonably priced digital camera for a few weeks, but as someone who knows eff all about this stuff, ive got no idea what to get. Has to be easy to use as well.
Any recommendations from someone who has half a clue would be much appreciated |
The first thing to ask is what will you be using it for?
The market is awash with cameras so makes the final choice more challenging but when it comes to brand, whilst the likes of Sony, Fujifilm, Casio, Ricoh etc are great, you simply cannot beat a Canon or Nikon so I would always go for one of those and a model that fits the type of usage required.
As well as decades of experience and quality, the after-market availability of extras & accessories surpasses that of the others.
Try not to skimp too, really push the boat out as much as possible as to what you can afford as a cheap camera is still cheap camera, regardless of the brand.
Best mirrorless “SLR style” for beginners would be the Canon R10 (a cool grand) or Nikon Z50, a more palatable £650.
Do have a good look around on Google and YouTube for comparisons
https://youtube.com/shorts/ou5
There is also the Canon R100 which is around £600
The Canon Ixus 285 is a good carry-around point & click compact camera, around £375 and the Nikon equivalent would be the Coolpix S7000, around £250 [Post edited 9 Aug 18:41]
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| Digital Cameras on 17:59 - Aug 9 with 2983 views | TwoHalves |
| Digital Cameras on 09:07 - Aug 9 by rbee |
Got my first digital camera in the late 90's and it soon became essential for my work. Every 5 or so years I would buy a new one in a sale, £99.99 down from £299.99 as a newer model had come out.
When the iPhone 7 came out I started taking photos with it and my digital camera, I would then compare the two. It soon became obvious that I no longer needed the digital camera. Never made sense to me given the difference in sensor size.
Can't comment on holiday snaps as it's been a long time since I saw things like the Hanging Gardens of Babylon or herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically across the plain. |
You need to get the Fawlty Towers box set, rbee! | | | |
| Digital Cameras on 18:40 - Aug 9 with 2928 views | LimehouseR |
| Digital Cameras on 16:26 - Aug 9 by Hayesender |
This is just the thread I'm looking for. Ive been looking at getting myself a decent but reasonably priced digital camera for a few weeks, but as someone who knows eff all about this stuff, ive got no idea what to get. Has to be easy to use as well.
Any recommendations from someone who has half a clue would be much appreciated |
For reference, a few years ago I bought a second hand Nikon D5500 camera (£200) and a 18-200mm lens (£180). It has been great to learn the process of taking a good photo and you really don't need the top of the range camera. A second hand DSLR like mine will take a fantastic photo. You could spend 4k on a brand new mirrorless camera and get almost the same results. Just depends if you are going to be taking photos that will be in a gallery on a huge scale. I would say not,
I got in to wildlife photos of birds, butterflies etc and got a 2nd hand 400mm lens for £350. It takes amazing photos, again, you really don't need to be spending £1000s over a very slight improvement on image quality.
I've found photography has increased my affinity to the natural world, made me appreciate things by slowing down and helped reduce my own stress/anxiety I have developed (no pun intended) over the last few years due to various life changing events. It's a great hobby and I recommend just getting your self a half decent 2nd hand DSLR to start with. |  | | |
| Digital Cameras on 18:59 - Aug 9 with 2906 views | Juzzie |
Good advice there from LimehouseR. If the intention is to get more immersed into photography rather than point & click then the secondhand market is a good place to go if you’re not fussed with the latest technology. Same applies to point & click cameras if that’s the route you do want to take.
I got couple of Canon 60D dSLR bodies for a good price and recently a really good Fuji F70EXR point & click on eBay for £20 inc battery and case (I had to pay the same again for a charger) for my son to take on a week long school trip and the little b’stard didn’t use it once so that’s another one I now have (!) but it’ll be good for the kids to use as it won’t matter if it gets damaged (because it will), there’s no way I’m letting them use my others. [Post edited 9 Aug 20:41]
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| Digital Cameras on 21:11 - Aug 9 with 2768 views | RangersDave3 |
With cameras, a perfect adage is thus………
Forget the pixels, get the light right, and above all get good glass.
One of my lenses is so sharp it will make your eyes bleed.
For those out there it’s a 300mm Canon lens, with a fixed body. This not only is a perfect lens, it helps you practice your aperture and fstop balance wonderfully.
Even when you leave things on auto, the lens is a wonderful cosseting milchfrau of a mother loving lens, moriarity! | | | |
| Digital Cameras on 09:50 - Aug 10 with 2422 views | robith |
I've recently gotten a point and shoot cybershot from like 2014 off ebay. It's obviously still harder to recreate what the phone AI is giving you in image correction, but for me, I just really hate taking my phone out all the time and how it actually makes it too easy to take a photo. I quite like thinking about the moment and it being worthy of capture |  | | |
| Digital Cameras on 10:10 - Aug 10 with 2377 views | Juzzie |
| Digital Cameras on 09:50 - Aug 10 by robith |
I've recently gotten a point and shoot cybershot from like 2014 off ebay. It's obviously still harder to recreate what the phone AI is giving you in image correction, but for me, I just really hate taking my phone out all the time and how it actually makes it too easy to take a photo. I quite like thinking about the moment and it being worthy of capture |
I think phones image correction has made people lazy, however convenient it is (and I've used it too). Same goes with software/apps.
In the early days of instagram (and I'm going to be snobbish here...) people would upload a really crap picture into it, select a filter and upload it to Facebook where everyone would gush how wonderful it was. It wasn't. | | | |
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