| Officials 09:14 - Feb 24 with 3541 views | toboboly |
Not going to make it all about them but last night was carnage. Took a neutral and by the end we were just laughing. Decisions being made by raffle.
Might as well save the money on the Ellerslie lino's in future as they look to the ref for everything.
The Bowler on Amos was a shocker. |  |
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| Officials on 09:15 - Feb 24 with 2633 views | toboboly |
The yellow for Seny for timewasting, don't have a problem with. However that will be the only one we see prior to the 87th minute all season. Inconsistent. | |
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| Officials on 09:19 - Feb 24 with 2607 views | Antti_Heinola |
Agree. The hull keeper on sat did worse than that on at least 4 occasions. Nothing. I’d be delighted for refs to always do that: one warning, then a yellow. But it won’t happen. |  |
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| Officials on 09:27 - Feb 24 with 2543 views | davman |
| Officials on 09:15 - Feb 24 by toboboly |
The yellow for Seny for timewasting, don't have a problem with. However that will be the only one we see prior to the 87th minute all season. Inconsistent. |
This all day long. That bloke has been here before doing that waving and pointing at his watch again and again with no card. Admittedly, Seny was taking the p1ss somewhat, but he wasn't picking the ball up, moving to the other side of the 6 yd box, stalling on run up or deliberately putting the ball ahead of the line like others have done at HQ without punishment.
It's the lack of consistency that makes me dislike "professional" refs as much as I do. |  |
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| Officials on 09:33 - Feb 24 with 2515 views | Harbour |
He got a lot of throw ins corners free kicks decisions wrong the one at the end I was right in front. Overulled the Lino on a couple of occasions incorrectly . Did not see the red but the tackle from behind from the pool player before looked an orange. Silly reaction from Dion but he will learn from it. |  | | |
| Officials on 09:44 - Feb 24 with 2449 views | terryb |
| Officials on 09:15 - Feb 24 by toboboly |
The yellow for Seny for timewasting, don't have a problem with. However that will be the only one we see prior to the 87th minute all season. Inconsistent. |
That didn't worry me at all. The chances of a goalkeeper getting two yellows for timewasting are very remote.
I think it gave him licence to take all the time in the world! | | | |
| Officials on 09:48 - Feb 24 with 2399 views | colinallcars |
| Officials on 09:44 - Feb 24 by terryb |
That didn't worry me at all. The chances of a goalkeeper getting two yellows for timewasting are very remote.
I think it gave him licence to take all the time in the world! |
That's a good point, has a keeper ever been given two yellows for time wasting ? |  | | |
| Officials on 09:54 - Feb 24 with 2336 views | QPROslo |
| Officials on 09:33 - Feb 24 by Harbour |
He got a lot of throw ins corners free kicks decisions wrong the one at the end I was right in front. Overulled the Lino on a couple of occasions incorrectly . Did not see the red but the tackle from behind from the pool player before looked an orange. Silly reaction from Dion but he will learn from it. |
Yes I didnt see that Dion butted their player who had just scythed him down long after he"d passed the ball forward to Stefan. He was justifiably angry and stuck his face close but a butt no. For me if their player only gets a yellow for that tackle ours should be only getting a yellow too. But I guess that's how it is, Dion has apologised to his team mates and the support and hopefully he won't respond like that again.
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| Officials on 10:07 - Feb 24 with 2303 views | MrSheen |
| Officials on 09:33 - Feb 24 by Harbour |
He got a lot of throw ins corners free kicks decisions wrong the one at the end I was right in front. Overulled the Lino on a couple of occasions incorrectly . Did not see the red but the tackle from behind from the pool player before looked an orange. Silly reaction from Dion but he will learn from it. |
Correctly over-ruled the lino on another throw in front of me in Ellerslie. What bugs me is when refs let a lot of hard challenges go, then when the players get annoyed and start roughing each other up, everything is a foul. Bit of that last night, I thought Sanderson clearly fouled the Blackpool player before he came back at him; if the the ref had given the free kick as he should, the rest wouldn't have happened. Overall though, I didn't think he was that poor.
Only fair to say that the Blackpool player made no attempt to exaggerate the (very minor) contact from Sanderson, just turned to the ref with a surprised look on his face. Unusual too that the crowd hardly booed him on the few touches he had before half time, we could all see what happened. |  | | |
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| Officials on 10:27 - Feb 24 with 2236 views | francisbowles |
Apart from "overall I didn't think he was that poor", I agree with all of that.
There were a lot of desperate 'tackles' that would normally be a free kick but were let go. There was a 'one for the team' challenge by a Blackpool player in the first half, which led to a free kick just outside the box but no yellow card and several throw ins that were given the wrong way. Also, that free kick near the end, that was completely at odds with the way he had officiated it for the previous 90 odd minutes.
Four minutes, didn't seem a lot of added time for the goal celebrations, substitutions and time wasting either. Not complaining about that bit though! | | | |
| Officials on 10:28 - Feb 24 with 2231 views | Stanisgod |
Why do we always seem to get the crap linos on the Ellerslie side?
Week after week. I sit in line just in front of the D so get a perfect view.
At least two decisions last night where the were at least 2 yards offside, nothing given, one where only half the ball was off but he gave a throw etc Awful again. |  |
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| Officials on 10:29 - Feb 24 with 2223 views | ed_83 |
Thought the ref got the big decisions right and generally did okay - felt the tackle on Sanderson was verging on a red at the time, but looks less nasty on the replays, and all the other bookings were fair enough. Can’t really complain about refs failing to clamp down on time wasting and then object to a yellow card for Dieng - hugely annoying that other teams have got away with so much worse, but that’s not this ref’s fault. Sanderson’s first tackle looked like a foul to me, and maybe he should have booked a few more people, but in general I’d prefer a ref to err slightly on the side of letting things go.
I agree the Ellerslie lino had a shocker though: repeatedly waited to make a call on throw-ins until the referee did so, clearly guessing at others, and missed / ignored what looked like several very decent offside shouts against Blackpool, and some obvious shirt-pulling on Willock in the first half. [Post edited 24 Feb 2022 10:33]
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| Officials on 10:35 - Feb 24 with 2179 views | daveB |
He got so much wrong, that free kick at the end was ridiculous, never a foul in a million years and should have been our throw in before that. the foul on Amos was a clear red and the Deing booking was laughable, if they had been winning he'd have just warned the keeper, didn't think Deing was taking that long to be honest |  | | |
| Officials on 10:39 - Feb 24 with 2144 views | OldPedro |
| Officials on 10:35 - Feb 24 by daveB |
He got so much wrong, that free kick at the end was ridiculous, never a foul in a million years and should have been our throw in before that. the foul on Amos was a clear red and the Deing booking was laughable, if they had been winning he'd have just warned the keeper, didn't think Deing was taking that long to be honest |
The foul on Amos was ridiculous - if he wanted to stop Amos, all he had to do was grab his shirt but the way he took him out could have easily been a red |  |
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| Officials on 10:42 - Feb 24 with 2115 views | Myke |
| Officials on 09:15 - Feb 24 by toboboly |
The yellow for Seny for timewasting, don't have a problem with. However that will be the only one we see prior to the 87th minute all season. Inconsistent. |
True. But he then didn't follow through on it for the final 30 minutes. I obviously didn't want Seny sent off, but my heart was in my mouth as he took an age with every goal kick for the next 25 minutes - until Bowler scored. Ref rarely even looked in his direction. | | | |
| Officials on 11:17 - Feb 24 with 2056 views | derbyhoop |
Ref got most of the big decisions right, IMHO.
Sanderson was as clear a red as you'll ever see. He nutted the bloke which is violent conduct, red card and 3 match ban. With his hair, doing something.like that could be seen from the moon.
James'yellow for the tackle could have been a red but yellow seemed fair enough.
Dueng for time wasting. It's the inconsistency that gets us. We've seen too many examples where refs have pointed at watches, waved hands then let it go.Is it just because we were on wrong side of ref enforcing g the guidelines?
Ball yellow. Every day.
Bowler the same as ball.
Field a bit harsh but he shouldn't have got involved. |  |
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| Officials on 11:38 - Feb 24 with 1981 views | eastside_r |
| Officials on 11:17 - Feb 24 by derbyhoop |
Ref got most of the big decisions right, IMHO.
Sanderson was as clear a red as you'll ever see. He nutted the bloke which is violent conduct, red card and 3 match ban. With his hair, doing something.like that could be seen from the moon.
James'yellow for the tackle could have been a red but yellow seemed fair enough.
Dueng for time wasting. It's the inconsistency that gets us. We've seen too many examples where refs have pointed at watches, waved hands then let it go.Is it just because we were on wrong side of ref enforcing g the guidelines?
Ball yellow. Every day.
Bowler the same as ball.
Field a bit harsh but he shouldn't have got involved. |
Have to agree, decidedly average over all but much better than the clowns at the weekend.
Got the big decisions right including the red card, which was violent conduct all day long whatever preceded or provoked it.
Over fussy and got a lot of minor stuff wrong = decidedly average. |  | | |
| Officials on 11:56 - Feb 24 with 1916 views | QPR_Hibs |
| Officials on 09:48 - Feb 24 by colinallcars |
That's a good point, has a keeper ever been given two yellows for time wasting ? |
I have never seen it.
I agree that Seny getting an early yellow gave him licence to take as long as he wanted thereafter. [Post edited 24 Feb 2022 11:56]
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| Officials on 11:58 - Feb 24 with 1894 views | QPR_Hibs |
| Officials on 10:07 - Feb 24 by MrSheen |
Correctly over-ruled the lino on another throw in front of me in Ellerslie. What bugs me is when refs let a lot of hard challenges go, then when the players get annoyed and start roughing each other up, everything is a foul. Bit of that last night, I thought Sanderson clearly fouled the Blackpool player before he came back at him; if the the ref had given the free kick as he should, the rest wouldn't have happened. Overall though, I didn't think he was that poor.
Only fair to say that the Blackpool player made no attempt to exaggerate the (very minor) contact from Sanderson, just turned to the ref with a surprised look on his face. Unusual too that the crowd hardly booed him on the few touches he had before half time, we could all see what happened. |
Yes, the Blackpool player did not make a meal of it at all. He just looked at the ref with a shrug as if to sat WTF was that? | |
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| Officials on 12:12 - Feb 24 with 1837 views | Superhoop83 |
| Officials on 11:17 - Feb 24 by derbyhoop |
Ref got most of the big decisions right, IMHO.
Sanderson was as clear a red as you'll ever see. He nutted the bloke which is violent conduct, red card and 3 match ban. With his hair, doing something.like that could be seen from the moon.
James'yellow for the tackle could have been a red but yellow seemed fair enough.
Dueng for time wasting. It's the inconsistency that gets us. We've seen too many examples where refs have pointed at watches, waved hands then let it go.Is it just because we were on wrong side of ref enforcing g the guidelines?
Ball yellow. Every day.
Bowler the same as ball.
Field a bit harsh but he shouldn't have got involved. |
I agree.
The ref wasn't great, but Sanderson was a red and he knew it, Seny deserved a booking even if that should have happened to countless opposition goalies at our ground and the Bowler foul was a "strong" yellow, as was Reece's awful tackle on Sanderson. |  |
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| Officials on 12:19 - Feb 24 with 1806 views | 1MoreBrightonR |
Ref wasnt great but ive seen a lot worse.
Lets face it, the challenge on Sanderson was a yellow, and we probably feel he should/could have got a red because Sanderson got one for his reaction, and retaliation reds always feel unfair. Had he not retailed, I think most people would accept it was a yellow. Sandersons was a red...there was very little objection in the ground, because you just cant do that.
Senys yellow was a yellow all day long, just other refs don't give it...but as mentioned before, that isn't this refs fault, and you could easily argue in this refs favour for actually doing the right thing.
Some other decisions were a bit odd, and some calls went the wrong way, but i'd say he got the big ones right. | | | |
| Officials on 12:45 - Feb 24 with 1743 views | OldPedro |
| Officials on 12:19 - Feb 24 by 1MoreBrightonR |
Ref wasnt great but ive seen a lot worse.
Lets face it, the challenge on Sanderson was a yellow, and we probably feel he should/could have got a red because Sanderson got one for his reaction, and retaliation reds always feel unfair. Had he not retailed, I think most people would accept it was a yellow. Sandersons was a red...there was very little objection in the ground, because you just cant do that.
Senys yellow was a yellow all day long, just other refs don't give it...but as mentioned before, that isn't this refs fault, and you could easily argue in this refs favour for actually doing the right thing.
Some other decisions were a bit odd, and some calls went the wrong way, but i'd say he got the big ones right. |
"Senys yellow was a yellow all day long, just other refs don't give it...but as mentioned before, that isn't this refs fault, and you could easily argue in this refs favour for actually doing the right thing."
Only issue I have with the ref booking Seny, goes back to the same ref's performance in our home game with Barnsley when he allowed the Barnsley keeper to waste as much time as he wanted - extract from Clive's match report below:
"......Absolute horror show, bottled by the referee who’d already largely lost control of the game by that stage, largely through his outright refusal to police Collins’ timewasting. That could have been killed stone dead with the yellow card it deserved around 60 minutes. To persist throughout the second half with a lot of pointing, yelling, and waving his arm around in the air, while the goalkeeper did exactly as he pleased, completely destroyed any remaining authority Ward had in this game. On more than one occasion the keeper stood with the ball in his hands in excess of 20 seconds, often with the crowd loudly counting them out for the officials. To still do nothing about it meant the game ended up refereeing him, rather than the other way around, because why are you going to pay attention to anybody this weak? Control of the game non-existent, big decisions wrong, dangerous play unpunished. A total pig’s ear of a performance. A real shambles." | |
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| Officials on 12:45 - Feb 24 with 1738 views | wombat |
| Officials on 12:19 - Feb 24 by 1MoreBrightonR |
Ref wasnt great but ive seen a lot worse.
Lets face it, the challenge on Sanderson was a yellow, and we probably feel he should/could have got a red because Sanderson got one for his reaction, and retaliation reds always feel unfair. Had he not retailed, I think most people would accept it was a yellow. Sandersons was a red...there was very little objection in the ground, because you just cant do that.
Senys yellow was a yellow all day long, just other refs don't give it...but as mentioned before, that isn't this refs fault, and you could easily argue in this refs favour for actually doing the right thing.
Some other decisions were a bit odd, and some calls went the wrong way, but i'd say he got the big ones right. |
if they think the keeper is time wasting simple give a free kick to the opp will soon stop keepers doing it
first time free kick inside the area
second yellow card |  |
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| Officials on 12:52 - Feb 24 with 1706 views | extratimeR |
Memory is a bit wonky, but wasn't the Northern Ireland keeper sent off for two yellows for time wasting, I think it happened quite early in game as well?
Perhaps six months ago? | | | |
| Officials on 12:52 - Feb 24 with 1705 views | 1MoreBrightonR |
| Officials on 12:45 - Feb 24 by OldPedro |
"Senys yellow was a yellow all day long, just other refs don't give it...but as mentioned before, that isn't this refs fault, and you could easily argue in this refs favour for actually doing the right thing."
Only issue I have with the ref booking Seny, goes back to the same ref's performance in our home game with Barnsley when he allowed the Barnsley keeper to waste as much time as he wanted - extract from Clive's match report below:
"......Absolute horror show, bottled by the referee who’d already largely lost control of the game by that stage, largely through his outright refusal to police Collins’ timewasting. That could have been killed stone dead with the yellow card it deserved around 60 minutes. To persist throughout the second half with a lot of pointing, yelling, and waving his arm around in the air, while the goalkeeper did exactly as he pleased, completely destroyed any remaining authority Ward had in this game. On more than one occasion the keeper stood with the ball in his hands in excess of 20 seconds, often with the crowd loudly counting them out for the officials. To still do nothing about it meant the game ended up refereeing him, rather than the other way around, because why are you going to pay attention to anybody this weak? Control of the game non-existent, big decisions wrong, dangerous play unpunished. A total pig’s ear of a performance. A real shambles." |
Good to see the ref took clive's comments onboard and has improved then ;) | | | |
| Officials on 12:54 - Feb 24 with 1691 views | Whip_It |
The booking of Dieng was ridiculous in the context of how the threshold is applied to time wasting by other teams.
There should have been red cards for the high, reckless and deliberate fouls on both Sanderson and Amos. The red for Sanderson probably justifiable, but his reaction was understandable - can't understand the outrage, to be honest.
On the other side, Field artfully obstructed the keeper for our first. | | | |
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