| Betting sponsor 09:51 - Oct 8 with 6705 views | sparkey |
Quite disappointed with this. Thought we made progress with not having a betting sponsor. Watched Paul Merson speak about how betting addiction ruined his life and really don't think this move is clever especially with the way our club is progressing. |  | | |  |
| Betting sponsor on 15:14 - Oct 8 with 1884 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Betting sponsor on 14:46 - Oct 8 by PinnerPaul |
and I said at the time, that was completely at odds with what Lee Hoos said - he doesn't have a problem with being sponsored by a gambling company.
I think it was Mr Ashville that came up with that hope that we would stick with local.
A forlorn hope surely, as if we make the PL, we're going to go with the biggest offer, and that is likely to come form a national/international company - gambling or not. |
Making some great points as per usual, Paul.
I am disappointed - I wish we could exist without betting sponsorship - but enjoying the debate as ever. |  |
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| Betting sponsor on 15:19 - Oct 8 with 1879 views | PinnerPaul |
| Betting sponsor on 15:14 - Oct 8 by BrianMcCarthy |
Making some great points as per usual, Paul.
I am disappointed - I wish we could exist without betting sponsorship - but enjoying the debate as ever. |
Thanks Brian and as usual you make your points eloquently without hyperbole.
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| Betting sponsor on 15:32 - Oct 8 with 1852 views | LythamR |
| Betting sponsor on 14:46 - Oct 8 by PinnerPaul |
and I said at the time, that was completely at odds with what Lee Hoos said - he doesn't have a problem with being sponsored by a gambling company.
I think it was Mr Ashville that came up with that hope that we would stick with local.
A forlorn hope surely, as if we make the PL, we're going to go with the biggest offer, and that is likely to come form a national/international company - gambling or not. |
Of course we will go for the money, but i can be disappointed by this official sponsorship instead of "thrilled" if i choose to be
If I knew that we were getting a really great commercial deal by associating the QPR name of which i am very proud with this start up gambling company nobody has heard of it might soften the blow a bit |  | | |
| Betting sponsor on 15:34 - Oct 8 with 1851 views | LythamR |
| Betting sponsor on 15:19 - Oct 8 by PinnerPaul |
Thanks Brian and as usual you make your points eloquently without hyperbole.
Paul (Founder member of the BrianMcCarthy/PinnerPaul mutual appreciation society) |
LOL get a room you 2 :) | | | |
| Betting sponsor on 15:52 - Oct 8 with 1837 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Betting sponsor on 15:19 - Oct 8 by PinnerPaul |
Thanks Brian and as usual you make your points eloquently without hyperbole.
Paul (Founder member of the BrianMcCarthy/PinnerPaul mutual appreciation society) |
What are you up to later? | |
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| Betting sponsor on 16:21 - Oct 8 with 1790 views | PinnerPaul |
| Betting sponsor on 15:32 - Oct 8 by LythamR |
Of course we will go for the money, but i can be disappointed by this official sponsorship instead of "thrilled" if i choose to be
If I knew that we were getting a really great commercial deal by associating the QPR name of which i am very proud with this start up gambling company nobody has heard of it might soften the blow a bit |
Fair point. | | | |
| Betting sponsor on 16:26 - Oct 8 with 1776 views | SK_hoops |
"You're telling me none of you came up with anything, they need a name in 5 minutes!"
......"What's 'bet' backwards?
"Yeah fine, that'll do. Stick a win at the end and we're good to go". [Post edited 8 Oct 2021 16:28]
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| Betting sponsor on 18:00 - Oct 8 with 1691 views | Juzzie |
they should have gone the whole hog with Niwteb |  | | |
| Betting sponsor on 06:41 - Oct 9 with 1579 views | Dorse |
| Betting sponsor on 15:19 - Oct 8 by PinnerPaul |
Thanks Brian and as usual you make your points eloquently without hyperbole.
Paul (Founder member of the BrianMcCarthy/PinnerPaul mutual appreciation society) |
B'n'P? It's not a great look...
Brace for impact.... |  |
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| Betting sponsor on 07:08 - Oct 9 with 1566 views | distortR |
| Betting sponsor on 15:14 - Oct 8 by BrianMcCarthy |
Making some great points as per usual, Paul.
I am disappointed - I wish we could exist without betting sponsorship - but enjoying the debate as ever. |
you've changed your story.
I thought you said you were disapoolnted?
I imagined the deal had 'given you the shits', as they say in oz when they are pissed off.
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| Betting sponsor on 08:10 - Oct 9 with 1530 views | essextaxiboy |
| Betting sponsor on 12:48 - Oct 8 by joe90 |
Unpopular view - I don't have a problem with a betting sponsor. If the sponsor can afford to pay to advertise go for it. I don't see it as a moral issue as the majority of those who gamble do so responsibly and not all those who don't are addicted, they're simply irresponsible people. The club shouldn't lose revenue because of them or a perceived moral issue. IMO it's just something people are jumping on the bandwagon about. I have a friend who's an alcoholic, I don't think drink sponsors should be banned. [Post edited 8 Oct 2021 13:51]
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Exactly this , commercial revenue is an important part of our new sustainable plan . Why are we so precious about bookmakers ? . Our very first scoreboard back in the 70s was sponsored by Corals . |  | | |
| Betting sponsor on 08:31 - Oct 9 with 1514 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Betting sponsor on 07:08 - Oct 9 by distortR |
you've changed your story.
I thought you said you were disapoolnted?
I imagined the deal had 'given you the shits', as they say in oz when they are pissed off.
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Steady!
I went from 'disappointing' to 'disappointed'.
We've always had betting booths at HQ, going back to the 80's at least. I have no problem with that, but having a 'betting partner' or whatever phrase they used is another step. I don't like it, but then - as Toast-R points out - the Guinness top is a work of art and I'd wear one now. So, I think I might be too close to hypocrisy here to give any lectures. | |
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| Betting sponsor on 08:39 - Oct 9 with 1499 views | essextaxiboy |
| Betting sponsor on 14:46 - Oct 8 by PinnerPaul |
and I said at the time, that was completely at odds with what Lee Hoos said - he doesn't have a problem with being sponsored by a gambling company.
I think it was Mr Ashville that came up with that hope that we would stick with local.
A forlorn hope surely, as if we make the PL, we're going to go with the biggest offer, and that is likely to come form a national/international company - gambling or not. |
If we are in the Premier League , they dont offer . We go out and sell it . | | | |
| Betting sponsor (n/t) on 08:42 - Oct 9 with 1498 views | essextaxiboy |
| Betting sponsor on 14:46 - Oct 8 by PinnerPaul |
and I said at the time, that was completely at odds with what Lee Hoos said - he doesn't have a problem with being sponsored by a gambling company.
I think it was Mr Ashville that came up with that hope that we would stick with local.
A forlorn hope surely, as if we make the PL, we're going to go with the biggest offer, and that is likely to come form a national/international company - gambling or not. |
[Post edited 9 Oct 2021 8:43]
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| Betting sponsor on 08:52 - Oct 9 with 1484 views | thorpebankR |
Their website is awful think itβs the worst betting app Iβve ever seen. |  | | |
| Betting sponsor on 08:56 - Oct 9 with 1470 views | distortR |
| Betting sponsor on 08:31 - Oct 9 by BrianMcCarthy |
Steady!
I went from 'disappointing' to 'disappointed'.
We've always had betting booths at HQ, going back to the 80's at least. I have no problem with that, but having a 'betting partner' or whatever phrase they used is another step. I don't like it, but then - as Toast-R points out - the Guinness top is a work of art and I'd wear one now. So, I think I might be too close to hypocrisy here to give any lectures. |
re-read your initial post  | | | |
| Betting sponsor on 09:03 - Oct 9 with 1458 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Betting sponsor on 08:56 - Oct 9 by distortR |
re-read your initial post |
Ah,
I wondered what you were getting at!
Edited now! | |
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| Betting sponsor on 17:55 - Oct 10 with 1325 views | PinnerPaul |
| Betting sponsor on 08:39 - Oct 9 by essextaxiboy |
If we are in the Premier League , they dont offer . We go out and sell it . |
Semantics, however we go about it I'm afraid Ashville won't be anywhere the best offer we receive/obtain. | | | |
| Betting sponsor on 18:39 - Oct 10 with 1289 views | LongsufferingR |
This is all a little bit strange. If you did a poll of Rs fans on the shirt sponsor we've had that they were most pleased with/proud of, Guinness would no doubt come way out on top. Doesn't alcohol end or ruin far more lives than gambling? If they were flashing up messages during a game encouraging people to have a bet, that's obviously completely wrong, but I can't get upset about us getting added income in this way. |  | | |
| Betting sponsor on 23:13 - Oct 10 with 1185 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Betting sponsor on 18:39 - Oct 10 by LongsufferingR |
This is all a little bit strange. If you did a poll of Rs fans on the shirt sponsor we've had that they were most pleased with/proud of, Guinness would no doubt come way out on top. Doesn't alcohol end or ruin far more lives than gambling? If they were flashing up messages during a game encouraging people to have a bet, that's obviously completely wrong, but I can't get upset about us getting added income in this way. |
Yes Guinness is alcohol but it's a quality brand and product.
Chances of me having a pint of Guinness in the next month = 65%
Chances of me using Tebwin ever = 0%
I haven't gambled in years but I do understand the appeal. I just think this looks like a poor product. |  |
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| Betting sponsor on 03:53 - Oct 11 with 1123 views | essextaxiboy |
| Betting sponsor on 17:55 - Oct 10 by PinnerPaul |
Semantics, however we go about it I'm afraid Ashville won't be anywhere the best offer we receive/obtain. |
think that some promoted clubs dont realise what they have to sell. I agree nice as the boss sounded Ashville would be priced out . [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 4:15]
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| Betting sponsor on 12:25 - Oct 11 with 1066 views | PinnerPaul |
| Betting sponsor on 03:53 - Oct 11 by essextaxiboy |
think that some promoted clubs dont realise what they have to sell. I agree nice as the boss sounded Ashville would be priced out . [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 4:15]
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| Betting sponsor on 21:58 - Oct 11 with 984 views | Toast_R |
Paul Merson doc on BBC1 just now. Sinister really just how bookies are allowed to get away with their practices. Utterly appalling. |  | | |
| Betting sponsor on 22:00 - Oct 11 with 982 views | A40Bosh |
| Betting sponsor on 11:33 - Oct 8 by BrianMcCarthy |
Disappointing. [Post edited 9 Oct 2021 9:03]
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Just watching the programme with Merson.
Feel sick to my stomach.
Thank God never ever had any interest in it.
QPR move away from dealing with any betting companies as part of our work in the community |  |
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