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So many police 22:33 - Nov 19 with 26214 viewsBlackCrowe

and one end of S Africa blocked off after the match.....looked like they were expecting big things. Didn't see anything untoward.

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So many police on 14:38 - Nov 20 with 6366 viewsBruno4England

So many police on 14:27 - Nov 20 by mikeygunn

More so than ever before, I’ve thought we’ve got some right bellends supporting our team. It’s an absolute embarrassment.


Not condoning it as no one should not come home from football, but the QPR fans weren't fighting among themselves...
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So many police on 15:03 - Nov 20 with 6188 viewsBoston

So many police on 14:38 - Nov 20 by Bruno4England

Not condoning it as no one should not come home from football, but the QPR fans weren't fighting among themselves...


Indeed it would appear that the Luton fan was instrumental in leading a group of their supporters who were looking for Rangers. And they found them.

Policing away fans at Loftus Rd after the game should be relatively straightforward after 50 years of dealing with high trouble potential fixtures. No ‘iffy’ games at stupid times, held in for 30mins after the match and walked back to whatever relevant underground station for the majority’s travel home.

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So many police on 15:06 - Nov 20 with 6175 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

I just knew it wouldn’t take long for something to come along and take the spring out of my step. All the best to the Luton fan.

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So many police on 15:08 - Nov 20 with 6163 viewsPlanetHonneywood

So many police on 14:26 - Nov 20 by Bruno4England

Name of Luton fan widely being reported on social media. Seems to be a very 'well respected and connected' man if you get the drift.


Not sure if he was an innocent bystander, but if not, then you’d think at 52 years of age he’d maybe have evolved a bit!

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So many police on 15:20 - Nov 20 with 6082 viewsRangersw12

So many police on 15:03 - Nov 20 by Boston

Indeed it would appear that the Luton fan was instrumental in leading a group of their supporters who were looking for Rangers. And they found them.

Policing away fans at Loftus Rd after the game should be relatively straightforward after 50 years of dealing with high trouble potential fixtures. No ‘iffy’ games at stupid times, held in for 30mins after the match and walked back to whatever relevant underground station for the majority’s travel home.


Clear footage doing the rounds of him giving verbals etc and trying to get at Rangers fans

Obviously hope he pulls through etc but he's not this innocent victim that some people are trying to portray
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So many police on 15:31 - Nov 20 with 6013 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

So many police on 15:20 - Nov 20 by Rangersw12

Clear footage doing the rounds of him giving verbals etc and trying to get at Rangers fans

Obviously hope he pulls through etc but he's not this innocent victim that some people are trying to portray


Don’t think anyone has said that to be fair.

No new information here but DaveB (I presume) gets a mention:

https://fanbanter.co.uk/trouble-after-qpr-v-luton-sees-fights-and-supporter-plac
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So many police on 15:59 - Nov 20 with 5817 viewsenfieldargh

Friend who sits just along from me was late getting into the ground as home fans had to detour to the ground.

Police told him Millwall, Luton & Rangers fighting on SBG and streets towards stadium before the game

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So many police on 16:48 - Nov 20 with 5537 viewsBoston

So many police on 15:08 - Nov 20 by PlanetHonneywood

Not sure if he was an innocent bystander, but if not, then you’d think at 52 years of age he’d maybe have evolved a bit!


He evolved, from a soldier to a Capo then to a Don.
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So many police on 17:06 - Nov 20 with 5459 viewsBruno4England

I've seen a lot of people say that they had no idea there was a rivalry with Luton.

How is this possible?
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So many police on 17:21 - Nov 20 with 5336 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

So many police on 17:06 - Nov 20 by Bruno4England

I've seen a lot of people say that they had no idea there was a rivalry with Luton.

How is this possible?


Not played much recently? It’s nearly 15 years since we played them regularly in front of fans.

Also it seems to be a “firm” or hooligan rivalry so if your outside of that why would you know? It doesn’t seem to be a footballing rivalry.

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So many police on 17:21 - Nov 20 with 5326 viewsRangersw12

So many police on 17:06 - Nov 20 by Bruno4England

I've seen a lot of people say that they had no idea there was a rivalry with Luton.

How is this possible?


Must be "new" fans
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So many police on 17:23 - Nov 20 with 5292 viewsstevec

So many police on 12:30 - Nov 20 by themodfather

why are held in at Millwall for an hour sometimes? when it's a one way walk to station, fenced and nowhere home fans? so at qpr, police let all away fans straight out? so let them out, into a cordon and slowly escort up SAR , this lets home fans disperse and get ahead , by the time they get to white city, some may get central line and police can lead others to wood lane station for ham/city trains. health and safety works many ways . this goes on and on. fans may not be saints but police are poor with management of fans.


Totally agree. I’d imagine it’s a hellishly difficult place to police outside the ground so why don’t the police tell Rangers to keep the away fans inside the ground for games like these until we’ve dispersed. As you say, could easily walk them down to Wood Lane station and get them out of W12.

I’m also a little disappointed that Rangers are playing the health and safety aspect when there’s a man lying in a coma. If they’d smashed up the away end, send Luton the bill to cover it.
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So many police on 17:26 - Nov 20 with 5272 viewsNorthernr

The away game promises to be fun.
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So many police on 17:32 - Nov 20 with 5219 viewsRangersw12

So many police on 17:26 - Nov 20 by Northernr

The away game promises to be fun.


They might make it a proper bubble trip and do collection of tickets at Loftus Road and coaches to the game

We only get 700 tickets so will be easy to get the Rangers fans in and out

More chance of trouble when they play Fulham in April and we have Sheffield United at home
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So many police on 17:40 - Nov 20 with 5157 viewsNorthernr

So many police on 17:32 - Nov 20 by Rangersw12

They might make it a proper bubble trip and do collection of tickets at Loftus Road and coaches to the game

We only get 700 tickets so will be easy to get the Rangers fans in and out

More chance of trouble when they play Fulham in April and we have Sheffield United at home


God I hope not.
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So many police on 17:51 - Nov 20 with 5072 viewsBruno4England

So many police on 17:40 - Nov 20 by Northernr

God I hope not.


That may be the only way Beds Police can guarantee fans' safety to be honest.

Otherwise it will need to be like matches there in the 80s where 'Scarfers' need a lot of the 'firm' to protect them.
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So many police on 18:58 - Nov 20 with 4645 viewsrobith

I geniunely can not imagine anything quite so pathetic as having physical fights over football.

Fans behaviour (including our own) has been trash post lockdown
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So many police on 19:08 - Nov 20 with 4564 viewscolinallcars

So many police on 14:27 - Nov 20 by mikeygunn

More so than ever before, I’ve thought we’ve got some right bellends supporting our team. It’s an absolute embarrassment.


Where I sit it's mostly season ticket holders but on these bloody Sky nights a lot of them don't attend mostly because they live away off.
As the game wore on last night the area became full of yobs who presumably bought tickets in ones or twos but saw the oportunity to take advantage of the empty seats to congregate.
These are the type Clive has mentioned getting coked up in the toilets.
Being an all-Rangers area there was no trouble apart from their weasely moronic boring chanting.
I'm no prude but I long for getting our Saturdays back and the return of the regular fans.
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So many police on 19:16 - Nov 20 with 4505 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Throughout history, violence always seems to follow a economic downturn.
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So many police on 19:17 - Nov 20 with 4497 viewsdaveB

It was chaos after the game, we usually cut round the back streets and come out onto uxbridge road by Dominos but last night as we walked down we heard a lot of shouting, Luton fans running with bottles and throwing them at a group of qpr fans we were kind of stuck in the middle so doubled back to go up Loftus Road and get out of the way. Not a policeman in sight, they were all guarding the edge of loftus road to stop us getting home. My son was pretty shaken up and we ended up having to walk a stupidly long way back to Shepherds Bush and ended up ion a train full of Luton fans.

Ridiculous policing imo, that doesn't for a second defend anyone who attacked that Luton fella but the whole night was ridiculous and whoever agreed to let this game be played on a friday has blood on their hands here,
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So many police on 19:29 - Nov 20 with 4443 viewskensalriser

Luckily I arrived late and left early last night and didn't see any of this moronic nonsense. There's no 'rivalry' with Luton, just idiots who like a punch up and don't care how much chaos and disruption their behaviour causes.

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So many police on 19:34 - Nov 20 with 4403 viewsBruno4England

So many police on 19:29 - Nov 20 by kensalriser

Luckily I arrived late and left early last night and didn't see any of this moronic nonsense. There's no 'rivalry' with Luton, just idiots who like a punch up and don't care how much chaos and disruption their behaviour causes.


That's what most rivalries are though. Up to the 1960s fans would watch 1 side 1 week and the nearest team apart from them the next.

Most rivalries only started because of fans fighting each other from late 60s/early 70s onwards. We don't have that mutual hatred with any other club apart from Luton.
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So many police on 19:38 - Nov 20 with 4363 viewsManinBlack

So many police on 18:58 - Nov 20 by robith

I geniunely can not imagine anything quite so pathetic as having physical fights over football.

Fans behaviour (including our own) has been trash post lockdown


A real contrast to rugby union where the fans of both countries were getting on really well at Twickers. No sense of any animosity even after lots of drinking.
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So many police on 19:43 - Nov 20 with 4326 viewsqprewan

I didn't go last night but I find it hard to believe that people are surprised by the amount of police there or that there was trouble. I've been to many QPR/Luton matches at both grounds from the late 70s onwards and there has always been a fierce Derby like rivalry and quite often serious violence as well. On my 1st visit there I was on a supporters club coach with the legendary Daphne Biggs and we got bricked travelling in and then QPR fans went on the rampage afterwards...Luton fans were lobbing bricks into the away end throughout the game. In the late 80s there was a near riot at St Pancras between the 2 sets of fans. And basically it has carried on to the present day. The problem now is that this will get 10 times worse and when QPR go to Kenilworth Rd every Luton hooligan past and present will be out for revenge.
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So many police on 19:55 - Nov 20 with 4224 viewsHAMRanger

So many police on 19:43 - Nov 20 by qprewan

I didn't go last night but I find it hard to believe that people are surprised by the amount of police there or that there was trouble. I've been to many QPR/Luton matches at both grounds from the late 70s onwards and there has always been a fierce Derby like rivalry and quite often serious violence as well. On my 1st visit there I was on a supporters club coach with the legendary Daphne Biggs and we got bricked travelling in and then QPR fans went on the rampage afterwards...Luton fans were lobbing bricks into the away end throughout the game. In the late 80s there was a near riot at St Pancras between the 2 sets of fans. And basically it has carried on to the present day. The problem now is that this will get 10 times worse and when QPR go to Kenilworth Rd every Luton hooligan past and present will be out for revenge.


Yep they will be out for revenge and because of ticket allocation it will be (mainly) scarves on the receiving end.
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