| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:09 - Aug 18 with 2031 views | Northernr |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:04 - Aug 18 by Rangersw12 |
What's the money on the pitch got to do anything!? Or shall we just give up when we play the top 12 who have bigger budgets than us!?
We were also missing players and if our muppet of a striker could finish we would of hammered them
If you want see everything as negative and depressing then crack on mate but I won't be reading it |
Well when I sit here and stick up for the club time and time again about why we can't do this and that, why we're hamstrung against parachute payment clubs, how difficult the job is for Les/Lee/manager etc it's because of the financial space and headroom we have to do work on our team. That goes completely out of the window when you get beaten at home by a team with even more meagre resources than our own.
And I don't see everything as negative and depressing. That's complete bullsht and totally unfair. Fcking Twitter accuses me of being a club mouthpiece because I won't get stuck into them about things. I'll support QPR until the day I die, and I'll fcking back the club and the team when I think they deserve it. But I aspire to better for this club and this team than getting beaten at home by fcking Blackpool and making excuses for it because we had three shots off target in the second half.
Second half we were crap. You're kidding yourself if you think anything else. |  | |  |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:29 - Aug 18 with 1955 views | PhilmyRs |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:09 - Aug 18 by Northernr |
Well when I sit here and stick up for the club time and time again about why we can't do this and that, why we're hamstrung against parachute payment clubs, how difficult the job is for Les/Lee/manager etc it's because of the financial space and headroom we have to do work on our team. That goes completely out of the window when you get beaten at home by a team with even more meagre resources than our own.
And I don't see everything as negative and depressing. That's complete bullsht and totally unfair. Fcking Twitter accuses me of being a club mouthpiece because I won't get stuck into them about things. I'll support QPR until the day I die, and I'll fcking back the club and the team when I think they deserve it. But I aspire to better for this club and this team than getting beaten at home by fcking Blackpool and making excuses for it because we had three shots off target in the second half.
Second half we were crap. You're kidding yourself if you think anything else. |
At the same time though you can’t go off on one about Blackpool missing their best striker and best player, when we’re in a similar position — our best player was missing, the Brighton lad was out which would potentially mean Roberts instead of Dykes. Throw in the fact the right back only completed 40 mins of training (half our team probably didn’t know his name) plus 1 or 2 others being out and we weren’t in the best shape going into the game either. But yep, Blackpool have a worse budget than us so let’s get stuck into them for losing.
We created some good opportunities and should have scored first half. Second half, not great, but we did get into some good areas with that final ball, or the striker anticipating where it would go letting us down. Two or three moments of decent link up play too with Roberts and Chair — I saw effort and occasional decent play. But, yes, I also saw some concerning bits, particularly how easily they carved through us on the break. In time, I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up with 3 at the back.
Not a dig as we’re all entitled to our views, and it was a really good report, but I think you’ll be writing about a lot worse performances than this over the course of the season, so brace yourself. |  | | |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:29 - Aug 18 with 1950 views | derbyhoop |
A bit of perspective.
We lost to a lower half team who executed their game plan, as we missed too many chanced.
Reading, who are dire, thumped previously 100% Blackburn on Wed night. The Championship is very competitive/a load of old dross (delete as appropriate). |  |
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:40 - Aug 18 with 1914 views | Northernr |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:29 - Aug 18 by PhilmyRs |
At the same time though you can’t go off on one about Blackpool missing their best striker and best player, when we’re in a similar position — our best player was missing, the Brighton lad was out which would potentially mean Roberts instead of Dykes. Throw in the fact the right back only completed 40 mins of training (half our team probably didn’t know his name) plus 1 or 2 others being out and we weren’t in the best shape going into the game either. But yep, Blackpool have a worse budget than us so let’s get stuck into them for losing.
We created some good opportunities and should have scored first half. Second half, not great, but we did get into some good areas with that final ball, or the striker anticipating where it would go letting us down. Two or three moments of decent link up play too with Roberts and Chair — I saw effort and occasional decent play. But, yes, I also saw some concerning bits, particularly how easily they carved through us on the break. In time, I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up with 3 at the back.
Not a dig as we’re all entitled to our views, and it was a really good report, but I think you’ll be writing about a lot worse performances than this over the course of the season, so brace yourself. |
I don't disagree with any of that mate tbh.
Something has just flipped a switch in my mind with that game the other night. It's pissd me off waaaaaay more than it should, waaaaay more than it usually does. I don't know why that is. Combination of expecting us to win, the limp show after half time, the time wasting and the refereeing, the hangover from last season (I do agree with rangersw12 on that), and a long winter stretching ahead for this team - like you say, there'll be worse than this.
But I do maintain we have to at least set ourselves higher standards and expectations than that second half, and coming out afterwards thinking we'd done alright because we dragged a couple of shots wide. Even I, accepting everything we're up against this level, think we've got to be a lot better than that. | | | |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:01 - Aug 18 with 1853 views | A40Bosh |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 11:12 - Aug 18 by Northernr |
There's definitely some grey area between "we didn't play very well against Blackpool" (and we didn't, what did their keeper have to do in that second half?) and "panic". |
I used Panic in terms of the general reaction of many on the wider social media Clive, not your report which was the usual balance of reality versus expectation. |  |
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:15 - Aug 18 with 1818 views | ngbqpr |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:40 - Aug 18 by Northernr |
I don't disagree with any of that mate tbh.
Something has just flipped a switch in my mind with that game the other night. It's pissd me off waaaaaay more than it should, waaaaay more than it usually does. I don't know why that is. Combination of expecting us to win, the limp show after half time, the time wasting and the refereeing, the hangover from last season (I do agree with rangersw12 on that), and a long winter stretching ahead for this team - like you say, there'll be worse than this.
But I do maintain we have to at least set ourselves higher standards and expectations than that second half, and coming out afterwards thinking we'd done alright because we dragged a couple of shots wide. Even I, accepting everything we're up against this level, think we've got to be a lot better than that. |
That flipped switch seems to have been the case with a lot of fans on here Clive, not just you - I was shocked when I opened up the forum on the way home and started going through the 'venting my spleen' thread, which was NOT full of those usual suspects who show up after a crap result, but rather many of the 'keep it in perspective' crew.
My worry is if suddenly people in the broader fanbase, not just the twitters, start talking about the Rotherham and Hull games as 'must wins for Beale' and all that entails if, god forbid, we don't win them both. |  |
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:15 - Aug 18 with 1803 views | paulparker |
Must be me but how any supporter can be happy with that second half baffles me
Their keeper could of slept in a hammock between the goalposts and we still wouldn’t of troubled him |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:18 - Aug 18 with 1789 views | ted_hendrix |
Ignoring the shithousery I thought Blackpool done a number on us Tuesday night and I thought then as I still do today we were a bit naive and couldn't/didn't deal with It.
All in all a shyte evening and I'm still pissed off, If you wan't to be a football fan and follow your club then you're taking a risk of getting the odd slap in the kisser and having your evening or weekend bloody ruined.
That's how I see It and It wont ever change, I hate losing and that wont ever change. |  |
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:27 - Aug 18 with 1776 views | ngbqpr |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:15 - Aug 18 by paulparker |
Must be me but how any supporter can be happy with that second half baffles me
Their keeper could of slept in a hammock between the goalposts and we still wouldn’t of troubled him |
Not seen anyone say they were "happy" with second half PP. Disappointed suffices for me tho. Plenty of effort, not enough guile. | |
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:29 - Aug 18 with 1764 views | Superhoop83 |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:40 - Aug 18 by Northernr |
I don't disagree with any of that mate tbh.
Something has just flipped a switch in my mind with that game the other night. It's pissd me off waaaaaay more than it should, waaaaay more than it usually does. I don't know why that is. Combination of expecting us to win, the limp show after half time, the time wasting and the refereeing, the hangover from last season (I do agree with rangersw12 on that), and a long winter stretching ahead for this team - like you say, there'll be worse than this.
But I do maintain we have to at least set ourselves higher standards and expectations than that second half, and coming out afterwards thinking we'd done alright because we dragged a couple of shots wide. Even I, accepting everything we're up against this level, think we've got to be a lot better than that. |
I agree with all of that but I'm in the "we weren't all that bad" camp, certainly compared with some of last season's utter dross and despite the rage I felt when I saw the 4 added minutes.
Maybe my switch will flip on Saturday but few of us predicted a defeat and it was a very disappointing and infuriating evening. Your comments about feigning head injuries are spot on and it is has to be stopped.
Anyway, my main point is that an away team must realise the points are there for the taking when the home team starts p*ssballing around with countless passes across the defence and short forward passes to immobile midfielders with their backs to goal. I was getting exasperated after about 10 minutes and for the rest of the game we rarely moved forward with real purpose. There was the odd period of decent attacking but it was all too stop/start and we just made it too easy for Blackpool.
That said, if Dykes had taken one of his early chances things could have been very different and the timing of Bowler's goal knocked the stuffing out of us. |  |
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:41 - Aug 18 with 1732 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:29 - Aug 18 by Superhoop83 |
I agree with all of that but I'm in the "we weren't all that bad" camp, certainly compared with some of last season's utter dross and despite the rage I felt when I saw the 4 added minutes.
Maybe my switch will flip on Saturday but few of us predicted a defeat and it was a very disappointing and infuriating evening. Your comments about feigning head injuries are spot on and it is has to be stopped.
Anyway, my main point is that an away team must realise the points are there for the taking when the home team starts p*ssballing around with countless passes across the defence and short forward passes to immobile midfielders with their backs to goal. I was getting exasperated after about 10 minutes and for the rest of the game we rarely moved forward with real purpose. There was the odd period of decent attacking but it was all too stop/start and we just made it too easy for Blackpool.
That said, if Dykes had taken one of his early chances things could have been very different and the timing of Bowler's goal knocked the stuffing out of us. |
I think your last sentance summed up these 2 pages of frustration and all the rest of the threads since Tuesday perfectly Superhoop83.
Once we score early and go ahead this team plays with a freedom and joy that is lovely to see and we grab points in lots of them.
Once we miss open goals and give one up (again on the stroke of half time WTF) this team just crumbles and rarely if ever come back to win all 3 points.
Mick Beale sounded amazing when he was hired ,still does I think but his team lack steel right now.We need to pull a win out Saturday IMO |  | | |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:45 - Aug 18 with 1705 views | paulparker |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:27 - Aug 18 by ngbqpr |
Not seen anyone say they were "happy" with second half PP. Disappointed suffices for me tho. Plenty of effort, not enough guile. |
Effort , yeah fair enough no one downed tools
But we have to be better , we have to raise the bar especially attacking the loft
Last season against Peterborough, Fulham, sheff Utd we were didn’t register a shot in the 2nd half after being a goal down and now we are seeing the same again
This team is to easy to play against , it’s to nice ,it can’t be left to an 18 year old to set the standards | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 14:52 - Aug 18 with 1607 views | PinnerPaul |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 11:04 - Aug 18 by daveB |
No panic yet but we need to get through this early part of the season until everyone is fit and cant really afford to piss away points as we did the other night, should have been bare minimum a draw from that game.
This to me looks like a team that could click and be really exciting but could equally collapse and get relegated, very fine margins between the 2 imo |
As mentioned yesterday I think, 'everyone' will never all be fit. | | | |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 15:27 - Aug 18 with 1568 views | daveB |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:40 - Aug 18 by Northernr |
I don't disagree with any of that mate tbh.
Something has just flipped a switch in my mind with that game the other night. It's pissd me off waaaaaay more than it should, waaaaay more than it usually does. I don't know why that is. Combination of expecting us to win, the limp show after half time, the time wasting and the refereeing, the hangover from last season (I do agree with rangersw12 on that), and a long winter stretching ahead for this team - like you say, there'll be worse than this.
But I do maintain we have to at least set ourselves higher standards and expectations than that second half, and coming out afterwards thinking we'd done alright because we dragged a couple of shots wide. Even I, accepting everything we're up against this level, think we've got to be a lot better than that. |
I feel the same and was so fed up on Tuesday as well, I think it's a hangover from last season basically becasue it's almost exactly the same team bar Roberts and Paal.
When you think back to early days of Warbs, think his 4th game we lost 3-1 to Swansea at home, missed a bag of chances (mostly Hugil) and were a bit crap similar to the other night but seeing Hugil miss was a novelty, we still had faith we were only 4 games in with him, Dykes is 3 years in so the anger towards him is a lot more understandable as it's more here we go again than learning about someone new.
It's very difficult to get the right balance at the moment, some of the stuff i read (mostly on twitter) is doom and gloom to for the sake of it half the time but I do have concerns for this season.
We have it in us to be a good side, some exciting players it's just a case of it all clicking but I'm old and remeber the 97/98 season where we had an exciting looking side on paper (how can you not go up with Sinclair, Quashie, Barker, Murray, Maddix, Sheron, Spencer, Peacock and Gallen) and almost got relegated. The 00/01 season is seen now rightly as a disaster but going into it not many saw that coming we looked quite exciting with Carlisle, Langley, Furlong, Crouch etc but all went tits up quickly as we couldn't win games and then injuries piled up. Thats my fear at the moment, that this team could and should be comfortably mid table but when you see them lose like they did on Tuesday flashbacks of those seasons hit me and I worry oh not again.
Saturday is a very big game for us imo |  | | |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 15:57 - Aug 18 with 1518 views | ParkRoyalR |
I know I'm a masochist but if you do re-watch some key parts of that game you do see the fine margins Warburton regularly spoke about, I remain optimistic about this season as am confident Beale will fine the right system for what I think is a stronger squad than last year (on the basis we retain a fully fit Chrissy Willock). | | | |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 16:13 - Aug 18 with 1480 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:40 - Aug 18 by Northernr |
I don't disagree with any of that mate tbh.
Something has just flipped a switch in my mind with that game the other night. It's pissd me off waaaaaay more than it should, waaaaay more than it usually does. I don't know why that is. Combination of expecting us to win, the limp show after half time, the time wasting and the refereeing, the hangover from last season (I do agree with rangersw12 on that), and a long winter stretching ahead for this team - like you say, there'll be worse than this.
But I do maintain we have to at least set ourselves higher standards and expectations than that second half, and coming out afterwards thinking we'd done alright because we dragged a couple of shots wide. Even I, accepting everything we're up against this level, think we've got to be a lot better than that. |
I was the same after the Charlton game, Clive I seem to be more sanguine since.
For two reasons, I think: we are working far harder since that phoned-in effort and I may have lowered my expectations slightly! |  |
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 16:29 - Aug 18 with 1422 views | Damo1962 |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 11:52 - Aug 18 by Northernr |
You're playing a team with even less money on the pitch than we have, missing its top scorer, missing its best midfielder, two away wins in 17 matches, scored one goal so far (four games ago, against Reading). We were crap. |
Thanks for the perspective Clive. Too many of our supporters have been conditioned to tolerate poor performances... especially at LR. A level of performance is the least we should expect, results not withstanding. When MB has all the personnel at his disposal is the time to judge him. We can't keep losing to average sides though, as it puts pressure on when we play the better ones. | | | |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 16:36 - Aug 18 with 1405 views | Damo1962 |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:09 - Aug 18 by Northernr |
Well when I sit here and stick up for the club time and time again about why we can't do this and that, why we're hamstrung against parachute payment clubs, how difficult the job is for Les/Lee/manager etc it's because of the financial space and headroom we have to do work on our team. That goes completely out of the window when you get beaten at home by a team with even more meagre resources than our own.
And I don't see everything as negative and depressing. That's complete bullsht and totally unfair. Fcking Twitter accuses me of being a club mouthpiece because I won't get stuck into them about things. I'll support QPR until the day I die, and I'll fcking back the club and the team when I think they deserve it. But I aspire to better for this club and this team than getting beaten at home by fcking Blackpool and making excuses for it because we had three shots off target in the second half.
Second half we were crap. You're kidding yourself if you think anything else. |
No need to justify yourself Clive. Some people like living in denial, as they can't accept what they see with their own eyes. Their choice of course...and I don't harangue them because of it. Praise when it due... but constructive release of frustration when it is due. Supporting and getting behind the team at matches, no matter who is in the shirt, is a given. Letting your feelings known on here, is the best way to make sense of our wacky football club. | | | |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 21:40 - Aug 18 with 1178 views | ManinBlack |
I recall many games at home where we used to put a lot of pressure on the oppo kicking towards the Loft but it doesn't seem to happen anymore. The Blackpool goal right on half time seemed to knock the stuffing out of us. Both home games kicking towards the Loft has seen a lack of attacking intent.
On paper, Blackpool was one of the easier home games with their lower budget and 50 years without a win at our place. That second half showing from us made it comfortable for them in what is normally a fixture they take nothing from. It reminded me of the early home game with Wimbledon, when Wilkins was in charge. It was meant to be one of the easiest home games n the Premier League after losing Ferdinand. We lost 3-0 and eventually went down. You could see that we lacked any goal threat then and that is how it felt again the other night.
A long way to go but if we lose Willock a lot this season we will struggle. Even at his creative best I have my doubts our forwards will take the chances.
As for the time wasting it has been noticeable that the few times we indulge in skulduggery the ref will add on 8 minutes or more. Whenever our opponents do it to us it is the bog standard 4 minutes. Having said that if the Sunderland ref had added 8 minutes we probably would have let in a winner and another hour with Blackpool we would not have scored. [Post edited 18 Aug 2022 21:41]
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 23:48 - Aug 18 with 1071 views | Burnleyhoop |
Can’t understand all the palaver to be honest.
Johansen and dozy were playing in midfield. Did you really expect anything else?
We need Salter in to make up the back three, with wing backs.
Field protecting the back 3 and Chair, Willock and Roberts behind Dykes/ Armstrong.
Until I see that line up, I expect to see the usual lame duck performances, unless Willock bales us out in the meantime. | | | |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 03:57 - Aug 19 with 957 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 23:48 - Aug 18 by Burnleyhoop |
Can’t understand all the palaver to be honest.
Johansen and dozy were playing in midfield. Did you really expect anything else?
We need Salter in to make up the back three, with wing backs.
Field protecting the back 3 and Chair, Willock and Roberts behind Dykes/ Armstrong.
Until I see that line up, I expect to see the usual lame duck performances, unless Willock bales us out in the meantime. |
So you don't see Dykes as a lame duck/part of the problem? And what's Dunne done/not done to implictly warrant blame?
Main problem with this side is, clearly, we're not quick, canny, creative or incisive enough in midfield owing to the personnel we know about (you got that bit right) and basically just have a raw and exciting kid up front, even if Roberts may give us 'something' between the lines. For me, Chair really failed to put in a shift vs 'Pool, worryingly, Field looked out of position/sorts, and Paal's passive performance frankly deserved the bloodied nose he got.
We really need to do the same kind of first-half number on Rotherham we did on Middlesborough, which might be more likely with Willock in the line-up, and which would give us two wins, a draw and two defeats from our opening 5 games - not fantastic, but not too terrible either. |  |
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 06:39 - Aug 19 with 927 views | NorthantsHoop |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 03:57 - Aug 19 by stainrods_elbow |
So you don't see Dykes as a lame duck/part of the problem? And what's Dunne done/not done to implictly warrant blame?
Main problem with this side is, clearly, we're not quick, canny, creative or incisive enough in midfield owing to the personnel we know about (you got that bit right) and basically just have a raw and exciting kid up front, even if Roberts may give us 'something' between the lines. For me, Chair really failed to put in a shift vs 'Pool, worryingly, Field looked out of position/sorts, and Paal's passive performance frankly deserved the bloodied nose he got.
We really need to do the same kind of first-half number on Rotherham we did on Middlesborough, which might be more likely with Willock in the line-up, and which would give us two wins, a draw and two defeats from our opening 5 games - not fantastic, but not too terrible either. |
Expecting inconsistency in this team, think Beale knew that when he got the job. We are not going to get a 20 goal a season striker, so he has to rely on goals coming from the team, Warburton did very much the same. I sort of feel that even though the season is at week 4, we still look like we are in pre-season mode and both the players and Beale are feeling their way. If we can post good results against Rotherham and Hull and avoid a tonking at Watford, which would be a disaster then things will look up. |  | | |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 13:31 - Aug 19 with 774 views | Rangers67 |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 12:04 - Aug 18 by Rangersw12 |
What's the money on the pitch got to do anything!? Or shall we just give up when we play the top 12 who have bigger budgets than us!?
We were also missing players and if our muppet of a striker could finish we would of hammered them
If you want see everything as negative and depressing then crack on mate but I won't be reading it |
I am with on Clive with this one. Some on here are obviously not as concerned as others with a result and performance like that. I would be willing to bet if you gave Bowler the same chances that fell to Dykes he would have converted them all. But it wasn,t just about him, there was general lack of urgency and ideas from our midfield and Clive makes a good point Blackpool were not at full strength either so the Willock was missing excuse doesn,t stand up. We should with good coaching be able to allow for players being out by adjusting our personnel and tactics to compensate as much as possible. It is early days for the new coach/manager but there are some fundamentals in this team that need addressing urgently such as lack of an even half decent striker, lack of creativity and pattern of play in midfield and the fact that our injury list seems never ending being the top three. [Post edited 19 Aug 2022 13:32]
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 14:12 - Aug 19 with 730 views | R_from_afar |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 03:57 - Aug 19 by stainrods_elbow |
So you don't see Dykes as a lame duck/part of the problem? And what's Dunne done/not done to implictly warrant blame?
Main problem with this side is, clearly, we're not quick, canny, creative or incisive enough in midfield owing to the personnel we know about (you got that bit right) and basically just have a raw and exciting kid up front, even if Roberts may give us 'something' between the lines. For me, Chair really failed to put in a shift vs 'Pool, worryingly, Field looked out of position/sorts, and Paal's passive performance frankly deserved the bloodied nose he got.
We really need to do the same kind of first-half number on Rotherham we did on Middlesborough, which might be more likely with Willock in the line-up, and which would give us two wins, a draw and two defeats from our opening 5 games - not fantastic, but not too terrible either. |
"Paal's passive performance frankly deserved the bloodied nose he got".
Come on, you're better than that |  |
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| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 16:44 - Aug 19 with 648 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Josh Bowler, stop me if you’ve heard this one before, QPR, etc. — Report on 03:57 - Aug 19 by stainrods_elbow |
So you don't see Dykes as a lame duck/part of the problem? And what's Dunne done/not done to implictly warrant blame?
Main problem with this side is, clearly, we're not quick, canny, creative or incisive enough in midfield owing to the personnel we know about (you got that bit right) and basically just have a raw and exciting kid up front, even if Roberts may give us 'something' between the lines. For me, Chair really failed to put in a shift vs 'Pool, worryingly, Field looked out of position/sorts, and Paal's passive performance frankly deserved the bloodied nose he got.
We really need to do the same kind of first-half number on Rotherham we did on Middlesborough, which might be more likely with Willock in the line-up, and which would give us two wins, a draw and two defeats from our opening 5 games - not fantastic, but not too terrible either. |
Made no mention of Dunne and Dykes will never score a panful because he has no natural strikers instinct. We will have to rely on him and Armstrong working the defenders and letting Chair, Willock and Roberts/ Richards make up the likely shortfall in goals from the strikers.
Beale has made it clear the club is not in a position to bring another striker in and we will have to work with what we have got. I genuinely believe that when all the new boys are fit and have got a few games under their belts, we will kick on. If we do and start winning a few, all the furore around Dykes limitations should dissipate.
Seems to me everyone needs to show a bit more patience. If there was nothing in the pipeline that was likely to improve our current first eleven, then I would really be worried. There is……and I’m not. | | | |
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