| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 23:12 - Apr 30 with 2563 views | colinallcars |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 22:15 - Apr 30 by ted_hendrix |
Thank you for the report.
Don't think I'll be back, I was all geared up for Bristol City next week It's so rare for me to miss the final game of the season but I can't I just can't be arsed anymore.
I'm so-so glad we've survived this season but let's be honest we've grabbed one hell of a pile of lady luck to do so, nothing or nobody will convince me otherwise.
Come the start of next season I'll be 73 Years old with a round car trip of some 3 hours + for home games, I couldn't face watching performances like that and the last games under GA.
I'm no football snob, when you've got to play dirty then play dirty get the points and piss off out of there, I don't love GA I don't love anyone at the club GA Is alright in my book but he Is not the one to take us forward, not In my eyes anyway.
Massive changes at the club over the next few Months.
I'm tired of It completely worn out, I feel distant from the club now something I've never felt before, I'm so glad the season Is over.
Words fail me. |
Ted, I sympathise. I'm slightly older but just a brisk(!) walk from the ground.
I'll renew, as I reckon you will in the end.
There have been times when two hours cramped into that little blue seat has left me knackered 'til Tuesday but I can't stop. |  | |  |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 08:23 - May 1 with 2240 views | Sakura |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 22:15 - Apr 30 by ted_hendrix |
Thank you for the report.
Don't think I'll be back, I was all geared up for Bristol City next week It's so rare for me to miss the final game of the season but I can't I just can't be arsed anymore.
I'm so-so glad we've survived this season but let's be honest we've grabbed one hell of a pile of lady luck to do so, nothing or nobody will convince me otherwise.
Come the start of next season I'll be 73 Years old with a round car trip of some 3 hours + for home games, I couldn't face watching performances like that and the last games under GA.
I'm no football snob, when you've got to play dirty then play dirty get the points and piss off out of there, I don't love GA I don't love anyone at the club GA Is alright in my book but he Is not the one to take us forward, not In my eyes anyway.
Massive changes at the club over the next few Months.
I'm tired of It completely worn out, I feel distant from the club now something I've never felt before, I'm so glad the season Is over.
Words fail me. |
You're best off staying away.
We're going to need fans who are committed and understanding of our approach next season. Negative energy in the stands will hinder us
Posts that begin a sentence with "I'm not a football snob". Remind me of someone starting a sentence with "I'm not a rascist but..."
I'm personally very optimistic for next season. It doesn't take much too do well in this league. No reason for us to fear the teams pushing for playoff places like Millwall, Luton, Sunderland and Coventry who next year likely won't have Gyokeres
With Field, Chair, Dieng, Paal, we have a core that would walk into most other teams in the league.
With Dunne and Dickie playing to their strengths now. The team deep without the ball and in shape suits Dickie especially with his lack of pace. I see a lot more clean sheets next season for us
JCS almost written off but if they could do with him what they have done with Field and turned an injury prone player into one who starts literally every game we would have better defensive options than most the teams currently sitting in the playoff places
And with Willock, a summer to get confidence in his hamstrings again. Get him going again and we have one of the leagues best players back
If the pessimists, negative, not football snobs but... types stay away then I'm happy with that
We need to be a gritty nasty team next season. But a pragmatic and effective one who could surprise quite a few I believe |  | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 08:52 - May 1 with 2219 views | cyprusmel |
It seems strange that we have used the backs to the wall Alamo formation in the last two games and have had more shots on goal. | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:11 - May 1 with 2186 views | E15Hoop |
I echo a lot of what Saks has written there, as regular posters on the site won't be surprised to hear, although I think its really sad that long-time supporters such as Ted feel as distant from the club as they do.
To those who are so disillusioned, I simply ask them this: How did you feel in 2001 when we went done to the third tier in the first time for so long, and the club really was on its uppers then?
I have good news for all of you: Its not as bad as that! We didn't get relegated this time! We've got a management team in place who genuinely bleed blue and white and who are desperate to do their best to make you proud of their efforts. We have a Head Coach who already has a vision for how he sees next season unfolding. We have a board that show no signs of disappearing off into the sunset, pulling up the goalposts behind them. We have a small core group of players that are in a position to take strength from coming through a really difficult period on the right side and can position themselves as the foundation on which a new squad can be built.
I've spent literally hours over the past two weeks looking back through past articles, some clippings of which I've shared on the Forum in the respective threads, and I just don't get this assumption that we're going to be playing dystopian anti-football going forwards. Gareth Ainsworth is perfectly capable of spotting a talented player AND incorporating him into an effective structure. It may not include 35 pretty passes before we cross the halfway line, but I genuinely don't understand where all this guff about "aimless hoofball" is coming from. It makes no sense. | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:18 - May 1 with 2140 views | BrianMcCarthy |
It makes no sense to you, E15, and I get that.
But we all have eyes and we all have our own opinions. Not sure why we all have to agree.
I agree with you on the main point, and have done now a few times - that we won't find out about next season until next season. I'm happy to wait.
In the meantime, a lot of threads are going the same direction as we try to bludgeon each other into premature agreement. Let's just wait and see, eh? |  |
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| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:28 - May 1 with 2090 views | E15Hoop |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:18 - May 1 by BrianMcCarthy |
It makes no sense to you, E15, and I get that.
But we all have eyes and we all have our own opinions. Not sure why we all have to agree.
I agree with you on the main point, and have done now a few times - that we won't find out about next season until next season. I'm happy to wait.
In the meantime, a lot of threads are going the same direction as we try to bludgeon each other into premature agreement. Let's just wait and see, eh? |
I hear you, Brian, and hopefully others will too. It just seems sadly that a lot of people have already made their minds up, like a grumpy old Dad who refuses to accept their daughter's new boyfriend just because he doesn't wear the same kind of clothes as he does. | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:29 - May 1 with 2055 views | Sakura |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:18 - May 1 by BrianMcCarthy |
It makes no sense to you, E15, and I get that.
But we all have eyes and we all have our own opinions. Not sure why we all have to agree.
I agree with you on the main point, and have done now a few times - that we won't find out about next season until next season. I'm happy to wait.
In the meantime, a lot of threads are going the same direction as we try to bludgeon each other into premature agreement. Let's just wait and see, eh? |
Good news Brian, nobody asked for us all to agree.
But this is a football discussion. forum and differing opinions will be shared | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:32 - May 1 with 2060 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:28 - May 1 by E15Hoop |
I hear you, Brian, and hopefully others will too. It just seems sadly that a lot of people have already made their minds up, like a grumpy old Dad who refuses to accept their daughter's new boyfriend just because he doesn't wear the same kind of clothes as he does. |
I'm not sure they have.
We're all fans, and we all change our mind continually and are also happy to come on here and say "well, proved me wrong" or "happy to be proved wrong". Well, most of us! :)
Plus, fans love Ainsworth. Even those of us who have worries about the effectiveness and/or style of football next season really want those worries to be laid to rest so we can enjoy the massive positives that he brings with him - spirit, integrity, defending, set-pieces etc. | |
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| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:34 - May 1 with 2054 views | PinnerPaul |
Just a thought - apologies if similar already posted BUT I find the general tone on here and (partly) in the report a little odd.
Did we not celebrate on the following occasions
1) Man City to stay in PL
2) Zamora
3) Beating Palace 6-0
4) Sheff Weds
5) Oldham
All of which we should not have been in that position for various reasons.
Of course its been a terrible season, but I feel, in some (not Clive's) opinions , there is an element of "I told you we were rubbish, had no back bone and would be relegated, so I'm going to continue to bang that drum"
Of course there are issues to be addressed but don't think there is anything "wrong" in giving credit for 1 loss in 5 games with 8 points gained - we banged on enough about the one win in 23 games etc etc etc so surely some credit is due for the (mini) turn round? | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:38 - May 1 with 2022 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Fair points, Paul. | |
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| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:46 - May 1 with 1975 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:34 - May 1 by PinnerPaul |
Just a thought - apologies if similar already posted BUT I find the general tone on here and (partly) in the report a little odd.
Did we not celebrate on the following occasions
1) Man City to stay in PL
2) Zamora
3) Beating Palace 6-0
4) Sheff Weds
5) Oldham
All of which we should not have been in that position for various reasons.
Of course its been a terrible season, but I feel, in some (not Clive's) opinions , there is an element of "I told you we were rubbish, had no back bone and would be relegated, so I'm going to continue to bang that drum"
Of course there are issues to be addressed but don't think there is anything "wrong" in giving credit for 1 loss in 5 games with 8 points gained - we banged on enough about the one win in 23 games etc etc etc so surely some credit is due for the (mini) turn round? |
I think you raise, generally, a good point but I don't agree that you can compare Zamora, Sheff Weds, or Oldham because we actually achieved something in all of those (even if I understand where you are coming from in that we shouldn't have needed to do so).
Palace 6-0 was different. It was a terrible, terrible team and we had for all money been relegated the week before at Port Vale until that late Bolton goal (or whoever it was). And we won 6-0. And bought their keeper a house, allegedly.
Man City - I never agreed with all that weird celebrating their title bollocks and it still annoys me we let in Agueroooooooooooooo, but it was an achievement of sorts to stay in the Premier League. I think we would take it now.
Although The Great Escape was sung at Stoke, it hardly qualified as such. We were only doomed in our own heads, it was never out of our hands, and it will probably end up that we only needed one of those wins anyway. Although the last two results seem miraculous given what happened before, I can't see it as a memorable Great Escape. And....the players had proved they were capable earlier in the season. |  | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:58 - May 1 with 1923 views | E15Hoop |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:46 - May 1 by GaryBannister86 |
I think you raise, generally, a good point but I don't agree that you can compare Zamora, Sheff Weds, or Oldham because we actually achieved something in all of those (even if I understand where you are coming from in that we shouldn't have needed to do so).
Palace 6-0 was different. It was a terrible, terrible team and we had for all money been relegated the week before at Port Vale until that late Bolton goal (or whoever it was). And we won 6-0. And bought their keeper a house, allegedly.
Man City - I never agreed with all that weird celebrating their title bollocks and it still annoys me we let in Agueroooooooooooooo, but it was an achievement of sorts to stay in the Premier League. I think we would take it now.
Although The Great Escape was sung at Stoke, it hardly qualified as such. We were only doomed in our own heads, it was never out of our hands, and it will probably end up that we only needed one of those wins anyway. Although the last two results seem miraculous given what happened before, I can't see it as a memorable Great Escape. And....the players had proved they were capable earlier in the season. |
I don't think you should understimate the importance of having to win the mental battle, as GA himself has said a lot over the past few weeks. Also worth listening to the QPR Podcast from last week where they interviewed Rob Dickie.
I've been in the position at work, as I'm sure many of has, where you think you're doing everything the same as you were before, but nothing seems to be working as it should. Then you start trying to force things, lose balance, stop sleeping properly and generally become an emotional basket case until someone takes the time to sit alongside you and help you to retrace your steps and to spot part of the process you weren't doing correctly, or you'd skipped or something similar.
Alternatively, that person may alter your strategy to ensure its more effective going forwards.
It seems to me that there's been a few players that GA's been doing that with, so I think the Great Escape definitely fits, albeit from a deeper perspective. | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 10:00 - May 1 with 1910 views | denhamhoop2 |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 16:34 - Apr 30 by E15Hoop |
Everyone keeps talking about this "huge overhaul", but what does that actually mean? Who and what would you change, and how would you ensure that it was successful, especially under the FFP constraints?
The only solution for this club to greatly improve its sustainability in the short term is to get promoted back to the Premier League, and that ship looks somewhat far off in the distance at this moment. |
Would be a start if we streamlined the Academy set up we apparently have 97 members of coaching staff whereas Millwall have roughly 30 less this is a set up that has produced only Kakay Drewe and Armstrong who are anywhere near our first team squad. Think Sir Les's role must be looked at along with Lee Hoos because the buck has to stop somewhere and the whole point of DOF role is so it isn't what the Manager wants the Manager gets and that was largely the case for both Beale and Warburton.
We live to fight another day in the Championship but to have 3 36 year olds as regular starters is not a good thing in any way whatsoever. The Championship is more often than not about who can rule faster and longer most weeks. Not sure what can be done about the mentality of a large portion of this team to go from running themselves into the ground v Watford at home to the display at Bloomfield Road 3 days later just shouldn't happen for a Professional Sports Team | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 10:12 - May 1 with 1867 views | TK1 |
There were a lot of really young lads having a really good time (shout out to the kid dressed as a banana). Let them enjoy an important away win in a fairly dismal season. When you're 19, 20 and you've spent most of a week's wage going to Stoke, the future of the club at boardroom level is the last thing on your mind.
PinnerPaul makes a really good comparison with those other crucial winning goals - Zamora, Palace etc - that were celebrated memorably. Often they were just putting off the misery of the next season. Very occasionally, they were previewing a good season (Oldham, but we had to endure misery first). But football's all about the moment as a supporter, so just enjoy it.
Next season is out of our control. It always is. I'm sorry so many people believed that we'd be top six this May, that has definitely affected the mood now that we'll end up about where our budget says we should. Maybe next year we'll over achieve once more, maybe we won't. But at least we have that chance. You can enjoy that achievement, because within the managerial context of the season that is what it is. In August, we'll have another round of predictions and they'll mostly be wrong. | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 10:36 - May 1 with 1773 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 16:19 - Apr 30 by terryb |
Thanks Clive.
I watched on a stream & felt relaxed for every second of the 105 minutes that we played. Relaxed? Certainly. Stoke were very poor & the chances of them scoring/winning was a lower percentage than our pocession stat.
If we had played the occassional pass to feet & decided to play in their half of the pitch, we should have won comfortably.
There was absolutely no need for us to carry out all of the shithousery. Last week yes, but yesterday was not required. All of the years that we have moaned about the tactics of Preston (and others) & now we are the major proponents! |
Yesterday we needed a win by any means to stay up so certainly the dark arts were justified.
Honestly what did people expect? Go one nil up and push forward for a second and third?
Get over the line, job done. |  | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 10:43 - May 1 with 1761 views | terryb |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 08:23 - May 1 by Sakura |
You're best off staying away.
We're going to need fans who are committed and understanding of our approach next season. Negative energy in the stands will hinder us
Posts that begin a sentence with "I'm not a football snob". Remind me of someone starting a sentence with "I'm not a rascist but..."
I'm personally very optimistic for next season. It doesn't take much too do well in this league. No reason for us to fear the teams pushing for playoff places like Millwall, Luton, Sunderland and Coventry who next year likely won't have Gyokeres
With Field, Chair, Dieng, Paal, we have a core that would walk into most other teams in the league.
With Dunne and Dickie playing to their strengths now. The team deep without the ball and in shape suits Dickie especially with his lack of pace. I see a lot more clean sheets next season for us
JCS almost written off but if they could do with him what they have done with Field and turned an injury prone player into one who starts literally every game we would have better defensive options than most the teams currently sitting in the playoff places
And with Willock, a summer to get confidence in his hamstrings again. Get him going again and we have one of the leagues best players back
If the pessimists, negative, not football snobs but... types stay away then I'm happy with that
We need to be a gritty nasty team next season. But a pragmatic and effective one who could surprise quite a few I believe |
This is also complete football snobery. Or, if you prefer, straight out of Millwall's "No one likes us, we don't care".
I will be renewing next season & draging my 70+ body on a three hour round trip, because this is what I do. Enjoying the company of friends in the pub before the match is another factor.
I'm pleased that you & E15 etc are optimistic about next season & that you can't understand how anyone can doubt that Gareth Ainsworth is the man to take us to the Promised Land. Equally, I can't understand what you base your oppinions on, apart from his passion.
None of you have posted any evidence as to why you hold your views & address everything with the words "I'm confident", "I'm optimistic", "I believe". Admittedly, those that have posted against Gareth, have little (or none) evidence to support their views either.
Personally, I've always been against appointing Gareth as manager, but felt that he was the only candidate for replacing Critchley & that he should be in place for next season whatever had happened.
Westy, in particular, goes on about how Wycombe did not play one dimensional & that we won't either. Well, from where I sit, the club that I detest most in the world, have played bullying, shithousing football for the whole of Ainsworth tenure!
I expect that we will play the same way & that I will hate it, but Queens Park Rangers is my club. I will be there supporting them despite your wish that I stop attending! If the four players you mention are still here next season, it will be because no other club is interested in them. That's not being detrimental to the players, but a statement about the clubs finances.
I do hope that in a few months I will be able to post that I was wrong & that Gareth has achieved all that you expected. [Post edited 1 May 2023 10:47]
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| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 10:54 - May 1 with 1718 views | enfieldargh |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 22:41 - Apr 30 by gazza1 |
I will be renewing my season ticket, along with my crew, as i have done every year for many years. I cannot stop going to QPR matches, however we play, whoever plays, whoever is the Manager, if we win, loose or draw. |
same here, I've seen highs and terrible lows since 1967, QPR is a thing that I do with my family & friends.
I would miss the tingle I get walking up the stairs into F block and seeing the bright green of the pitch. |  |
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| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 11:07 - May 1 with 1668 views | PunteR |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 10:12 - May 1 by TK1 |
There were a lot of really young lads having a really good time (shout out to the kid dressed as a banana). Let them enjoy an important away win in a fairly dismal season. When you're 19, 20 and you've spent most of a week's wage going to Stoke, the future of the club at boardroom level is the last thing on your mind.
PinnerPaul makes a really good comparison with those other crucial winning goals - Zamora, Palace etc - that were celebrated memorably. Often they were just putting off the misery of the next season. Very occasionally, they were previewing a good season (Oldham, but we had to endure misery first). But football's all about the moment as a supporter, so just enjoy it.
Next season is out of our control. It always is. I'm sorry so many people believed that we'd be top six this May, that has definitely affected the mood now that we'll end up about where our budget says we should. Maybe next year we'll over achieve once more, maybe we won't. But at least we have that chance. You can enjoy that achievement, because within the managerial context of the season that is what it is. In August, we'll have another round of predictions and they'll mostly be wrong. |
I don't think they're good comparisons at all. Are we comparing Adomahs goal to Zamoras at Wembley?
Managing to staying up in the Premier league against Man City who where looking to win the league for the first time ever, with playing Stoke who had nothing to play for to stay in the Championship?
C'mon lads, this season has been pony. Even Adomah admitted it.
We should be building , developing our squad to get promoted. Despite FFP rules we still are well financially backed or have been. We were top in October so just staying up by the skin of our teeth is hardly a course of celebration.
I've massive concerns for next season. I don't know how anyone can't see problems.
There's nothing wrong with celebrating a win. A win is a win but to celebrate staying up and to make it an achievement is pretty daft IMHO.
If we put on a performance on Monday and get another win I might naturally start having a bit more optimism for going into the summer. But we'll see. |  |
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| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 11:08 - May 1 with 1656 views | PinnerPaul |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 13:56 - Apr 30 by BostonR |
Really enjoyed the serious nature of your report. You’re absolutely spot-on with the Board meeting comment, given the serious nature of what happened this season and how the club needs to react for the forthcoming season.
There are three very decent PL clubs getting relegated and with a resurgent Plymouth, Ipswich and more than likely Sheffield Wed getting promoted- the Championship is going to be tough next season.
I think GA will stay but he’s going to need help in the market to find the quality replacements needed to build a competitive squad. 16th is looking like a pipe-dream next season and given the likely upheaval that is seriously required in the backroom staff, GA has a tough job on his hands. |
Fair points but there are ALWAYS 3 PL clubs relegated and 3 clubs going well promoted!  | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 11:13 - May 1 with 1642 views | PinnerPaul |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 16:19 - Apr 30 by terryb |
Thanks Clive.
I watched on a stream & felt relaxed for every second of the 105 minutes that we played. Relaxed? Certainly. Stoke were very poor & the chances of them scoring/winning was a lower percentage than our pocession stat.
If we had played the occassional pass to feet & decided to play in their half of the pitch, we should have won comfortably.
There was absolutely no need for us to carry out all of the shithousery. Last week yes, but yesterday was not required. All of the years that we have moaned about the tactics of Preston (and others) & now we are the major proponents! |
On your last part, I've said that for ages.
How we laughed when Albert played keepie uppies instead of taking a throw v PNE (ironically) I think, last season - you can't have it both ways - either you're for "game management" or you're not. | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 11:19 - May 1 with 1627 views | Andybrat |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 22:41 - Apr 30 by gazza1 |
I will be renewing my season ticket, along with my crew, as i have done every year for many years. I cannot stop going to QPR matches, however we play, whoever plays, whoever is the Manager, if we win, loose or draw. |
Ditto
Sits somewhere between drug dependence and a disease. Pretty obvious what will happen, loanees go ( though I would try and make a play for Lowe). Majority end of contracts go, Couple sold, B team become part of the A team, Sinclair and Taylor are tomorrows heroes. Oh and the medical team have a complete overhaul, surely that must happen. See u next week guys. What’s really funny is ever since I just accepted we were going to be relegated and stopped kicking the cat ( proverbially) we started winning. Missed the Watford game so hoping for an early Christmas pressie Monday | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 11:20 - May 1 with 1615 views | PinnerPaul |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 09:46 - May 1 by GaryBannister86 |
I think you raise, generally, a good point but I don't agree that you can compare Zamora, Sheff Weds, or Oldham because we actually achieved something in all of those (even if I understand where you are coming from in that we shouldn't have needed to do so).
Palace 6-0 was different. It was a terrible, terrible team and we had for all money been relegated the week before at Port Vale until that late Bolton goal (or whoever it was). And we won 6-0. And bought their keeper a house, allegedly.
Man City - I never agreed with all that weird celebrating their title bollocks and it still annoys me we let in Agueroooooooooooooo, but it was an achievement of sorts to stay in the Premier League. I think we would take it now.
Although The Great Escape was sung at Stoke, it hardly qualified as such. We were only doomed in our own heads, it was never out of our hands, and it will probably end up that we only needed one of those wins anyway. Although the last two results seem miraculous given what happened before, I can't see it as a memorable Great Escape. And....the players had proved they were capable earlier in the season. |
Fair enough | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 11:25 - May 1 with 1615 views | TK1 |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 11:07 - May 1 by PunteR |
I don't think they're good comparisons at all. Are we comparing Adomahs goal to Zamoras at Wembley?
Managing to staying up in the Premier league against Man City who where looking to win the league for the first time ever, with playing Stoke who had nothing to play for to stay in the Championship?
C'mon lads, this season has been pony. Even Adomah admitted it.
We should be building , developing our squad to get promoted. Despite FFP rules we still are well financially backed or have been. We were top in October so just staying up by the skin of our teeth is hardly a course of celebration.
I've massive concerns for next season. I don't know how anyone can't see problems.
There's nothing wrong with celebrating a win. A win is a win but to celebrate staying up and to make it an achievement is pretty daft IMHO.
If we put on a performance on Monday and get another win I might naturally start having a bit more optimism for going into the summer. But we'll see. |
Obviously the Zamora goal was much bigger. But the next season was probably the most ruinously awful I can remember. We're still paying for it. Nobody was saying at the time 'calm down, we've broken FFP here, we'll never recover.'
It was more like the Kulscar goal against Palace in '99 that bounced in off the balloon. The next season was the worst in living memory, but that was still an enjoyable afternoon. I think people can enjoy the moment. It was fun on Saturday. This whole "we were top in October" business: yes, but we were also on a massive winless run that looked certain to all to result in relegation which was halted away at unbeaten Burnley trying to win the league and then followed by another away win that kept us up. It's comparable on those terms. | | | |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 11:32 - May 1 with 1596 views | R_from_afar |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 19:24 - Apr 30 by jtuck |
How quickly we forget! A few weeks ago we were losing at home to a Birmingham side every bit as dire as Stoke. Basic competence from Rangers completely absent as we had only 2 in midfield and GA's stone age tactics looked clueless. Who then would have thought we would turn it around and survive? I certainly didn't. So can we do both?: celebrate miraculously getting out of the hole we made for ourselves AND acknowledging the grim reality coming our way next season Desperate times called for desperate measures and GA and those much despised players delivered in the clutch as we went far more defensive, gave the ball away for fun by booting it long and stopped the easy counter attacks. So maybe two cheers not three cheers but I hope GA did have a few beers last night. |
This post sums up how I feel too. We can celebrate surviving and arresting a seemingly terminal slide at the same time as expressing concern about next season.
I've no idea how we will fare under Ainsworth next season but if it all falls apart, I will still be grateful that he kept us up this season because by the time he was appointed, I really could not see us staying up. Thank you, Gareth |  |
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| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 11:37 - May 1 with 1582 views | ozranger |
| Bittersweet symphony — Report on 10:00 - May 1 by denhamhoop2 |
Would be a start if we streamlined the Academy set up we apparently have 97 members of coaching staff whereas Millwall have roughly 30 less this is a set up that has produced only Kakay Drewe and Armstrong who are anywhere near our first team squad. Think Sir Les's role must be looked at along with Lee Hoos because the buck has to stop somewhere and the whole point of DOF role is so it isn't what the Manager wants the Manager gets and that was largely the case for both Beale and Warburton.
We live to fight another day in the Championship but to have 3 36 year olds as regular starters is not a good thing in any way whatsoever. The Championship is more often than not about who can rule faster and longer most weeks. Not sure what can be done about the mentality of a large portion of this team to go from running themselves into the ground v Watford at home to the display at Bloomfield Road 3 days later just shouldn't happen for a Professional Sports Team |
Perhaps I am naive or stupid, but I hear this a lot when talking about the squad. What has Lee Hoos got to do with the picking of who is in the academy or who is in the squad? That somewhat has me dumbfounded.
I see Hoos as someone, in the case of a football team, having to make ends meet. He is told by those around him that this is what we want to spend and he needs to work out how we can fit that within the budget and what needs to be moved, financially talking, from one pot to another to accommodate such a consideration. I remember when watching a film, The Draft, when one person was constantly looking at the financial side of trades and draft picks in the NFL and how they can alter the books to accomodate such moves. They had no say in who was bought or sold or who would be in an academy or similar in the NFL, just to state that it can or cannot be done within the constraints of the overall club budget and finances. Thus, I simply see Lee Hoos position as one who needs to reorganise the financial model of QPR each time those around him make requests and not, and I repeat not, have anything at all to do with choosing who should be in those squads.
If I am wrong about this, then please explain clearly for me and everyone else and with some concrete proof as well and not any conjecture.
Please note, I am not defending him, just clarifying what his actual role at QPR is. |  | | |
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