| The season 25-26 squad thread 10:22 - Apr 13 with 7223 views | ngbqpr |
As the days grow longer, the number of games left shorter, and lower midtable has thrillingly been secured for another season, a fan's thoughts turn to August...pristine turf, sun-drenched safe standing areas, a revamped squad, and the demon hope.
The mood music is currently mixed regarding who will be leading our merry band of footballing troubadours come the Big Kick Off next season. Hoos and the owners are definitely giving off "checked out / leave it to the manchild" vibes, so it's all down to whether Marti & Christian can reach a better the devil you know arrangement, I guess.
“We identified the fact that we needed to play some form of 4-3-3, possession-based, mid-block/high press football. We did that by looking at the last 10 years of the Championship and what won you points and what allowed you sustainability to bring in 16 to 24-year-old players who could play well in the system, develop and be the best players they could possibly be..." was the rallying cry, and Nourry ain't one for turning.
So with that (ahem) "game model" in mind, what would you like to see us do / what in reality do you think we will do?
As far as we're allowed to know, the following are contracted for next season (I have included loaned out players who have played significant minutes at a decent level; and dev squad players who've had first team minutes this season; oh, and Harvey Vale):
GKs
Nardi / Walsh / Cooper
CBs
JCS / Morrison
FBs
Larkeche
Midfield*
Chair / Dembele / Field / Madsen / Varane / Vale / Smyth / Morgan / Bennie
(* obvs in a 433 some of these play as wide forwards, but I reckoned it was easier to bunch them in here, and keep 'strikers' to those playing centrally up top and charged with leading our goals for column).
Strikers
Celar / Kolli / Lloyd / Kelman
What do we need, and by what combination of contract renewals / new signings / DS players stepping up / loaned out players returning will we get there?
And whither Richards and Hevertton come August... |  |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 15:08 - Apr 14 with 2248 views | ngbqpr |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 08:09 - Apr 14 by Gloucs_R |
I'm definitely keen to keep Marti but if we do push him out then I wouldn't mind Gary O'Neil.
Going back to the list...
Vale can play left back but don't think it's his natural position. Assuming he gets fit.
I would like to see..
Two young CBs, Morrison age and ability
LB x1
RB x1
Two dominant CMs, allowing Morgan to go on loan and Colback to be released
Lloyd to be sent out on loan with a recall option if we get stuck
Wouldn't mind Yang and would like to sign Saito on a perm.
Big wish list, who do we move on?
I wouldn't be against selling Chair....I know, I know. I love the little fella but he's got a value to him and we're stocked with smaller AMs.
Frey, Fox, Andersen must all be on decent wages.
Kelman and Celar flight for first choice striker
Koli a possible number 10? [Post edited 14 Apr 10:36]
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Can't see any bids for Chair after his injury blighted season.
I think his new deal suited both parties. He gets some security, we get him hopefully fit & firing for another season, after which the length of the contract would mean a decent fee in a year's time. | |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 16:05 - Apr 14 with 2141 views | Gloucs_R |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 15:08 - Apr 14 by ngbqpr |
Can't see any bids for Chair after his injury blighted season.
I think his new deal suited both parties. He gets some security, we get him hopefully fit & firing for another season, after which the length of the contract would mean a decent fee in a year's time. |
I agree, cant see it but Leeds have always been interested in him and if they go up they may take a punt. |  |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 17:17 - Apr 14 with 2043 views | Tonto |
Think we can co sider a utility player or two at the back... i.e. can play CB or FB, a bit like Fox only hopefully better.
That way we can push to boat out on a striker. |  |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 18:01 - Apr 14 with 1953 views | mart_Goblin |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 08:32 - Apr 14 by cpgerber |
I am really keen to see how the Kelman situation is going to develop. Top scorer in League One now. Surely he must now be able to make an impact with us, at least play some role.
Otherwise, if Peterborough managed to get 3m for Edwards, we should be able to get a heft fee for someone willing to take a punt on the League One top scorer. |
He’d have to sign a contract extension pretty quickly .
No one will spend at the moment as his contract is up in January .
They’ll just wait |  | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 23:49 - Apr 14 with 1692 views | dannyblue |
On reflection the overhaul is not as extreme as I thought. If Cook re-signs, might just need a starting rightback, a first team central midfielder, and potentially a squad left back and centreback. We can reduce the squad size and free up wages without losing much quality apart from Dunne.
GK:
No change needed.
Defence:
There were stories that we signed centreback Tim Akindileni from Aberdeen, but I haven't seen any evidence of him in development games. If he is coming and Cook re-signs, that's four centrebacks with JCS and Morrison which is enough. I wouldn't be astonished if we have an option for another year for Fox and take it up for squad cover...since they always describe him so positively.
I'd guess Larkeche and Esquerdinha are lined up for leftback, although surprised the latter hasn't been getting a look in on the bench yet, so maybe he's not ready and we'll be in for someone.
We paid money to sign Friel, so we must hope he'll be pushing to be backup rightback next season. Seems like Santos can't return. A new rightback is the priority signing.
Central midfield:
If Colback, EDB, and Anderson leave, we'll need at least one first team player to complement Field, Varane, Madsen, Morgan. Maybe two if we become more 433 and less 4231.
Attack:
We're actually well stocked with players (if quality is debatable). The 10 seems to come from Chair, Madsen, Morgan generally. Vale, Smyth, Chair, Dembele wide. Bennie, Kolli making up the numbers. I'd be pleased if Saito sneakily becomes permanent and not surprised if Yang returns, but you could argue we should be able to cope without either of them. With strikers from Frey, Celar, Kelman, Kolli, I suspect Lloyd will be loaned out. Obviously we'd love a great new striker (if it's not Kelman), but I think we'd have to move one out first to get one (which might be Kelman). |  | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 06:33 - Apr 15 with 1531 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 23:49 - Apr 14 by dannyblue |
On reflection the overhaul is not as extreme as I thought. If Cook re-signs, might just need a starting rightback, a first team central midfielder, and potentially a squad left back and centreback. We can reduce the squad size and free up wages without losing much quality apart from Dunne.
GK:
No change needed.
Defence:
There were stories that we signed centreback Tim Akindileni from Aberdeen, but I haven't seen any evidence of him in development games. If he is coming and Cook re-signs, that's four centrebacks with JCS and Morrison which is enough. I wouldn't be astonished if we have an option for another year for Fox and take it up for squad cover...since they always describe him so positively.
I'd guess Larkeche and Esquerdinha are lined up for leftback, although surprised the latter hasn't been getting a look in on the bench yet, so maybe he's not ready and we'll be in for someone.
We paid money to sign Friel, so we must hope he'll be pushing to be backup rightback next season. Seems like Santos can't return. A new rightback is the priority signing.
Central midfield:
If Colback, EDB, and Anderson leave, we'll need at least one first team player to complement Field, Varane, Madsen, Morgan. Maybe two if we become more 433 and less 4231.
Attack:
We're actually well stocked with players (if quality is debatable). The 10 seems to come from Chair, Madsen, Morgan generally. Vale, Smyth, Chair, Dembele wide. Bennie, Kolli making up the numbers. I'd be pleased if Saito sneakily becomes permanent and not surprised if Yang returns, but you could argue we should be able to cope without either of them. With strikers from Frey, Celar, Kelman, Kolli, I suspect Lloyd will be loaned out. Obviously we'd love a great new striker (if it's not Kelman), but I think we'd have to move one out first to get one (which might be Kelman). |
Sorry, but Akindileni is 17 years old so will not be anywhere near the 1st team.
JCS is unable to play 20 games, let alone 40 in a season.
Cook will be 34?
The Brazillian lad has played 6 DS games I think.
Larkeche has been playing for Dundee. Nothing more to be said about that.
Friel is about 18yo.
We're gonna need a much bigger boat. |  | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 06:51 - Apr 15 with 1520 views | Gus_iom |
On Yang, the better he does, the less likely we are to see him with us next season. Spurs will probably loan him out again, but they'll want more of a fee. | | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 09:59 - Apr 15 with 1349 views | dannyblue |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 06:33 - Apr 15 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Sorry, but Akindileni is 17 years old so will not be anywhere near the 1st team.
JCS is unable to play 20 games, let alone 40 in a season.
Cook will be 34?
The Brazillian lad has played 6 DS games I think.
Larkeche has been playing for Dundee. Nothing more to be said about that.
Friel is about 18yo.
We're gonna need a much bigger boat. |
Plenty of teams round out the squad with teenagers, and I'm sure that's our aim. Whether they're good enough or not is another matter. If you have 18 established pros, and 6 teenagers for your squad, you can pay more for better pros, and you can attract better teenagers with your 'pathway'. Easier to keep team spirit with a core as well. Can't have injuries like this year though.
Cook JCS Morrison Fox NewRightBack Larkeche
Field Varane NewMidfielder
Chair Dembele Vale Smyth Madsen
Kelman Frey Celar
Squad then filled with Kolli, Bennie, Morgan, Esquerdinha, Akindileni etc.
If you think the new midfielder's wages can be covered by Colback, Andersen and EDB you can offer quite a bit.
And if the new rightback's wages by Dunne, Ashby, Hevertton...
And you've still got Edwards and Paal's wages to play with for a loan or development project defender or two.
Even if the budget stays the same, there's room to manouvre.
And then if Ebs moves we can sign an additional shiny new striker, midfielder and leftback. | | | |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 09:59 - Apr 15 with 1343 views | BrizR |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 16:05 - Apr 14 by Gloucs_R |
I agree, cant see it but Leeds have always been interested in him and if they go up they may take a punt. |
Surely we're safer if they go up? They'll be looking to spend more money on better players than Chair. Same with Dunne at Sheffield Utd; they wanted him as an option for a couple of dozen games at the sharp end of a Championship season, but they'd surely not be looking to bring him in for the PL, especially not at right back where he's played almost all of his games for the last 18 months. We're more likely to be in danger from a Southampton or Ipswich coming the other way and looking for bargains to replace players that don't fancy slogging it out down here for a season. | | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 10:25 - Apr 15 with 1274 views | dmm |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 09:59 - Apr 15 by dannyblue |
Plenty of teams round out the squad with teenagers, and I'm sure that's our aim. Whether they're good enough or not is another matter. If you have 18 established pros, and 6 teenagers for your squad, you can pay more for better pros, and you can attract better teenagers with your 'pathway'. Easier to keep team spirit with a core as well. Can't have injuries like this year though.
Cook JCS Morrison Fox NewRightBack Larkeche
Field Varane NewMidfielder
Chair Dembele Vale Smyth Madsen
Kelman Frey Celar
Squad then filled with Kolli, Bennie, Morgan, Esquerdinha, Akindileni etc.
If you think the new midfielder's wages can be covered by Colback, Andersen and EDB you can offer quite a bit.
And if the new rightback's wages by Dunne, Ashby, Hevertton...
And you've still got Edwards and Paal's wages to play with for a loan or development project defender or two.
Even if the budget stays the same, there's room to manouvre.
And then if Ebs moves we can sign an additional shiny new striker, midfielder and leftback. |
You acually want a 17 year old who hasn't played a senior team match for a mid table Scottish premier league club to be included in our squad? Really?! |  | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 11:12 - Apr 15 with 1202 views | dannyblue |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 10:25 - Apr 15 by dmm |
You acually want a 17 year old who hasn't played a senior team match for a mid table Scottish premier league club to be included in our squad? Really?! |
As 5th or 6th choice, yes.
Not that I know anything about him, but some kind of promising young player is what you want in that role. [Post edited 15 Apr 11:13]
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 11:14 - Apr 15 with 1194 views | Rangersw12 |
We need pace , power and athleticsim at Full Back , Midfield and up front
Not sure if our budget can pull that out of the bag though | | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 12:02 - Apr 15 with 1105 views | dmm |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 11:12 - Apr 15 by dannyblue |
As 5th or 6th choice, yes.
Not that I know anything about him, but some kind of promising young player is what you want in that role. [Post edited 15 Apr 11:13]
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Promising young players go into the Development Squad. If they do well and are needed they may be drafted into the senior squad, and then usually as a stop gap. When signed, they rarely go straight into the senior squad. | | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 12:13 - Apr 15 with 1085 views | kensalriser |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 06:33 - Apr 15 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Sorry, but Akindileni is 17 years old so will not be anywhere near the 1st team.
JCS is unable to play 20 games, let alone 40 in a season.
Cook will be 34?
The Brazillian lad has played 6 DS games I think.
Larkeche has been playing for Dundee. Nothing more to be said about that.
Friel is about 18yo.
We're gonna need a much bigger boat. |
Not that facts should ever get in the way of an argument but JCS played 33 games last season and 29 when he was at Coventry. |  |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 12:40 - Apr 15 with 1014 views | bosh67 |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 12:13 - Apr 15 by kensalriser |
Not that facts should ever get in the way of an argument but JCS played 33 games last season and 29 when he was at Coventry. |
One of the keys will be to try and get JCS right next season. He is in a longish contract now and we know how good he can be when fit. My only worry is that his injury record reminds me of Fitz Hall who generally only played about half a season a year with all the injuries. JCS has so many injuries that we need at least 2 other CBs to stand in during the season. With Edwards going back to Southampton I am guessing we will be looking for another Morrison type signing to fast track into the 1st team. |  |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 13:13 - Apr 15 with 924 views | TheChef |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 12:40 - Apr 15 by bosh67 |
One of the keys will be to try and get JCS right next season. He is in a longish contract now and we know how good he can be when fit. My only worry is that his injury record reminds me of Fitz Hall who generally only played about half a season a year with all the injuries. JCS has so many injuries that we need at least 2 other CBs to stand in during the season. With Edwards going back to Southampton I am guessing we will be looking for another Morrison type signing to fast track into the 1st team. |
It'd be great if JCS' fitness/injury avoidance can improve. He's 27 so still at a good age. But I thought as you got older injury recovery tends to take longer, even with all the modern sports science available? |  |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 13:17 - Apr 15 with 901 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 12:13 - Apr 15 by kensalriser |
Not that facts should ever get in the way of an argument but JCS played 33 games last season and 29 when he was at Coventry. |
He's played over 30 games in a season once in his entire career to date.
Or 20 games per season for QPR on average over three seasons.
Yeah, don't let those facts get in the way. But, hey, at least we get to watch him on the sidelines for a few more seasons due to the new contract. | | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 13:29 - Apr 15 with 868 views | terryb |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 10:25 - Apr 15 by dmm |
You acually want a 17 year old who hasn't played a senior team match for a mid table Scottish premier league club to be included in our squad? Really?! |
I seem to recall many a 17 year old playing for Rangers in the past & some were at centre half/full back - Frank Sibley, Ron Hunt, Tony Hazell, Dave Clement, Ian Evans.
I'm not for one minute saying that he will be in the squad, or that he is good enough to be, but his age should not be a factor. If you're good enough you're old enough. | | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 13:32 - Apr 15 with 861 views | aston_hoop |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 06:51 - Apr 15 by Gus_iom |
On Yang, the better he does, the less likely we are to see him with us next season. Spurs will probably loan him out again, but they'll want more of a fee. |
Big Ange will be sacked soon enough and I imagine whoever takes over at Spurs in the summer will want a proper look at him. Imagine its of those ones ones where if he goes and spends a season somewhere, next step will be the Eredivise or Bundesliga. But I think he'll be in their squad. Got his first South Korea cap a few weeks ago and they are not short. Wouldn't surprise me if thats a market we are shopping in this summer though, we were heavily linked with a Korean midfielder last summer before Varane joined |  |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 13:35 - Apr 15 with 842 views | TheChef |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 13:32 - Apr 15 by aston_hoop |
Big Ange will be sacked soon enough and I imagine whoever takes over at Spurs in the summer will want a proper look at him. Imagine its of those ones ones where if he goes and spends a season somewhere, next step will be the Eredivise or Bundesliga. But I think he'll be in their squad. Got his first South Korea cap a few weeks ago and they are not short. Wouldn't surprise me if thats a market we are shopping in this summer though, we were heavily linked with a Korean midfielder last summer before Varane joined |
As an aside Spurs just feel like a bigger version of QPR.
If you keep changing managers and results don't change (or get worse...), then maybe the manager is not the issue.
Of course arguably they should never have got rid of Pochettino. I mean he got them to a CL final FFS! | |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 13:36 - Apr 15 with 840 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 09:59 - Apr 15 by BrizR |
Surely we're safer if they go up? They'll be looking to spend more money on better players than Chair. Same with Dunne at Sheffield Utd; they wanted him as an option for a couple of dozen games at the sharp end of a Championship season, but they'd surely not be looking to bring him in for the PL, especially not at right back where he's played almost all of his games for the last 18 months. We're more likely to be in danger from a Southampton or Ipswich coming the other way and looking for bargains to replace players that don't fancy slogging it out down here for a season. |
Good post I feel Chair has missed his chance to be bought by a top club and now the injuries appear to be coming faster than a couple of years ago when he was making the International squad .
Teams that come down have the money to keep all their players unlike the old days when it was an automatic sell off except of course the ones who dont fancy it like you say .
Dunne also might have missed his chance at SU or they blew it because they will be looking for higher ranked players to try and survive in the PL I suspect.
With QPR it always comes down to strikers and scoring as it will again this summer .We need 5 or 6 on rotation or 2 out and out goalscorers that will push us up towards the top 6 |  | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 13:46 - Apr 15 with 790 views | dmm |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 13:29 - Apr 15 by terryb |
I seem to recall many a 17 year old playing for Rangers in the past & some were at centre half/full back - Frank Sibley, Ron Hunt, Tony Hazell, Dave Clement, Ian Evans.
I'm not for one minute saying that he will be in the squad, or that he is good enough to be, but his age should not be a factor. If you're good enough you're old enough. |
I'd love it if the lad turned out to be half as good as those players. But really, if he was good enough to play CB in a Championship senior team at 17 he wouldn't be at QPR. | | | |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 14:12 - Apr 15 with 699 views | CamberleyR |
I'm having a quiet chuckle that a few on here are thinking Sheff U will be in the PL next season. I think they won't even win their playoff semi... |  |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 14:57 - Apr 15 with 608 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 14:12 - Apr 15 by CamberleyR |
I'm having a quiet chuckle that a few on here are thinking Sheff U will be in the PL next season. I think they won't even win their playoff semi... |
Agree, they have gone all Leedsy it seems.
Can't say I am disappointed ! |  |
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| The season 25-26 squad thread on 15:04 - Apr 15 with 595 views | QPROslo |
| The season 25-26 squad thread on 14:12 - Apr 15 by CamberleyR |
I'm having a quiet chuckle that a few on here are thinking Sheff U will be in the PL next season. I think they won't even win their playoff semi... |
I'm not chuckling too much, it's Cardiff's turn to take 3 points there Friday. | | | |
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