| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse 13:33 - Jan 2 with 11056 views | Benny_the_Ball |
The club today released a statement condemning social media abuse of Paul Smyth and his family on Instagram.
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/202
It beggars belief that a player who gives his all and has just signed a contract extension is subjected to such treatment. Hopefully the perpetrator will be identified and dealt with.
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/202
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 00:23 - Jan 3 with 2664 views | enfieldargh |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 00:02 - Jan 3 by 7374Ranger |
As others have said , sorry that you get this kind of moronic abuse too. |
In some Asian countires when they catch one of these pathetic morons they plaster their mugs on TV news.Should do the same here.
Thailand it is illegal to post bad and daming reviews of peoples businesses and services, they do trace you and hit you ith big fines/compensation payments to the injured party |  |
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 00:33 - Jan 3 with 2641 views | Konk |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 13:44 - Jan 2 by Northernr |
There's a cohort of our online support who absolutely detest Smyth to weird levels, but the messages he's received go beyond that into proper mental illness.
Unfortunately there's a lot of it about. In life and internet and society in general, but at QPR in particular there is definitely an unhinged weirdo or two within our midst who get off on anonymous hate campaigns via email and DM.
I've been receiving stuff like this for the last couple of years. Dozens of them... And I'm not the only one from the podcast/website circuit who's getting this stuff either. Always deeply personal and designed to cause maximum hurt and upset.
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Mate, I don't have the words. It goes without saying that your Dad would be extraordinary proud of you. There are some absolute gutless cu nts out there, people who, for their own welfare, I hope will hopefully one day look back with embarrassment at stuff like that. You run a brilliant forum for your fellow fans, produce brilliant previews/reports etc, and traipse around the country watching Rangers finish 16th, in order to produce those write-ups. Loads of supports would kill to have someone producing such brilliant content.
Fuc k the sad pathetic cu nts. |  |
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 08:38 - Jan 3 with 2298 views | Philothesuperhoop |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 21:57 - Jan 2 by Northernr |
Maybe one day I’ll publish them all mate. Predictably me flagging that one has provoked another this afternoon. |
Clive I’m just so sorry mate. Your original post in this thread is deeply shocking because it isn’t an ill informed drunken rant from a slightly thick person, it has taken some planning and thought. Deeply disturbed individual. It makes me concerned that we share a website and stadium with them.
It goes without saying that the time and effort you put into this website is one of my highlights of supporting the often disappointing Rangers. Thank you.
To then think that you highlight that awful email you received and then somebody else piles in makes me seriously angry. Apologies that your work, effort and brilliant writing means that you have to endure this utter garbage. |  | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 09:02 - Jan 3 with 2195 views | daveB |
It's the whole Tommy Nintendo thing all over again, quite weird and bizarre behaviour. |  | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 09:58 - Jan 3 with 2078 views | GroveR |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 09:02 - Jan 3 by daveB |
It's the whole Tommy Nintendo thing all over again, quite weird and bizarre behaviour. |
It's been a while so I might be misremembering, but wasn't Tommy Nintendo connected to the club in some way? |  | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 11:18 - Jan 3 with 1948 views | AshteadR |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 13:44 - Jan 2 by Northernr |
There's a cohort of our online support who absolutely detest Smyth to weird levels, but the messages he's received go beyond that into proper mental illness.
Unfortunately there's a lot of it about. In life and internet and society in general, but at QPR in particular there is definitely an unhinged weirdo or two within our midst who get off on anonymous hate campaigns via email and DM.
I've been receiving stuff like this for the last couple of years. Dozens of them... And I'm not the only one from the podcast/website circuit who's getting this stuff either. Always deeply personal and designed to cause maximum hurt and upset.
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This website is superb and the message board is the closest I get to social media.
What sort of messed-up weirdo would you need to be, to even think about doing something like this, let alone taking the time and effort to actually do it.
There must be a huge amount of personal or professional jealousy underpinning it. Very sad. |  | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 11:36 - Jan 3 with 1899 views | Metallica_Hoop |
You get that shit on World of Tanks sometimes after a game, even if you had a good result.
"Cancer on family" etc I've posted back my work address and my name on 3 occasions and they never turn up. |  |
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 11:39 - Jan 3 with 1896 views | rottcodd |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 00:01 - Jan 3 by 7374Ranger |
I don't like those chants either, even when we find their decisions frustrating.
I know the club issue statements about bad language etc, but I am not sure what action they can take when it is about 100 or so fans chanting those songs. |
Well, the fanbase is not independent from the club given the fan forums and supporters organisations and the election of leaders for each of those groups. I also find it hard to believe it's not possible to firstly identify the ringleaders (through stewards) and secondly communicate to those season ticket holders in that section what is and isn't appropriate for ongoing behaviour and set out disciplinary action if warnings are not heeded. | | | |
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 12:29 - Jan 3 with 1796 views | joe90 |
The people who write these sort of comments and send nasty emails crave attention. Don’t give it to them. It’s the worst thing you can do to them. Delete this thread and keep going. |  | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 13:30 - Jan 3 with 1688 views | mart_Goblin |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 11:39 - Jan 3 by rottcodd |
Well, the fanbase is not independent from the club given the fan forums and supporters organisations and the election of leaders for each of those groups. I also find it hard to believe it's not possible to firstly identify the ringleaders (through stewards) and secondly communicate to those season ticket holders in that section what is and isn't appropriate for ongoing behaviour and set out disciplinary action if warnings are not heeded. |
Hmmm. Agreed.
The ‘Last Christmas’ renditions seemed quite well organised for an ‘off the cuff’ chant didn’t it ?
Anyone heard it since the Leicester game ?
Might have been sung at Pompey but I didn’t hear it .
Certainly didn’t hear it on Thursday, [Post edited 3 Jan 13:51]
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 14:40 - Jan 3 with 1588 views | sdm1508 |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 16:10 - Jan 2 by stainrods_elbow |
Abusiveness is endemic in the culture, catalysed by the anonymity of social media, which is a completely different thing from sharpness, surliness, edge, or a streak of malice. And it's hardly alien to this supposedly civilised message board either, as I know from my own experience with the usual suspects on here.
I would agree that, nine times out of ten, it's driven by herd mentalists who lack self-esteem, envy one one's resilience, intelligence and sense of values, and, more often than not, a sign that one is doing something right, i.e. living under one's own star. Personally, it's water of a duck's back to me, unless it's someone who's earned my respect or whom I care about. Even then, what counts is to be true to oneself. [Post edited 2 Jan 16:11]
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Wow. You just compared your interactions on here to what Paul Smyth has gone through. The self absorbed ego of you. Despite your supposed inntelligence that you like to tell everyone you have or try to showcase, you just don't get get it. Your back in forth on here is a reap what you sow situation.
You either post the majority of the time where your opinion should be treated as fact and are very forthright about it
Someone replies to you in the same manner. You don't like being questioned as it means someone is challenging your intellectual prowess, so you get stroppy and personal. When they again reply in kind, you cry victim.
Your total lack of self awareness is astonishing and the real issue here. If you speak to people like shit, then many will reply back the same way
I believe, there are three types of posters on here when it comes to you
1. The type that call you out for the way you conduct yourself and the way you speak to others
2. Others that think you are a bit of a muppet and probably think the majority of the above, but all credit to them, they just keep quiet
3. They have you on ignore
Now sometimes you can be civil on here, raise opinions and have a discussion like an adult and when that happens people will engage with you in the correct manner
When you decide to be a stroppy man child, some will call you out for it. So please don't even put your interactions on here in the same stratosphere as what Paul Smyth has just gone through. Someone has said they want him and his family dead. On here, people question the way you speak to people and the matter of a fact approach you take | | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 15:28 - Jan 3 with 1490 views | WA_Hoop |
For the love of God, what has happened to society?! My heart goes out to both Smythie and Clive. |  | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 19:33 - Jan 3 with 1247 views | Mick_S |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 14:40 - Jan 3 by sdm1508 |
Wow. You just compared your interactions on here to what Paul Smyth has gone through. The self absorbed ego of you. Despite your supposed inntelligence that you like to tell everyone you have or try to showcase, you just don't get get it. Your back in forth on here is a reap what you sow situation.
You either post the majority of the time where your opinion should be treated as fact and are very forthright about it
Someone replies to you in the same manner. You don't like being questioned as it means someone is challenging your intellectual prowess, so you get stroppy and personal. When they again reply in kind, you cry victim.
Your total lack of self awareness is astonishing and the real issue here. If you speak to people like shit, then many will reply back the same way
I believe, there are three types of posters on here when it comes to you
1. The type that call you out for the way you conduct yourself and the way you speak to others
2. Others that think you are a bit of a muppet and probably think the majority of the above, but all credit to them, they just keep quiet
3. They have you on ignore
Now sometimes you can be civil on here, raise opinions and have a discussion like an adult and when that happens people will engage with you in the correct manner
When you decide to be a stroppy man child, some will call you out for it. So please don't even put your interactions on here in the same stratosphere as what Paul Smyth has just gone through. Someone has said they want him and his family dead. On here, people question the way you speak to people and the matter of a fact approach you take |
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 20:12 - Jan 3 with 1100 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 14:40 - Jan 3 by sdm1508 |
Wow. You just compared your interactions on here to what Paul Smyth has gone through. The self absorbed ego of you. Despite your supposed inntelligence that you like to tell everyone you have or try to showcase, you just don't get get it. Your back in forth on here is a reap what you sow situation.
You either post the majority of the time where your opinion should be treated as fact and are very forthright about it
Someone replies to you in the same manner. You don't like being questioned as it means someone is challenging your intellectual prowess, so you get stroppy and personal. When they again reply in kind, you cry victim.
Your total lack of self awareness is astonishing and the real issue here. If you speak to people like shit, then many will reply back the same way
I believe, there are three types of posters on here when it comes to you
1. The type that call you out for the way you conduct yourself and the way you speak to others
2. Others that think you are a bit of a muppet and probably think the majority of the above, but all credit to them, they just keep quiet
3. They have you on ignore
Now sometimes you can be civil on here, raise opinions and have a discussion like an adult and when that happens people will engage with you in the correct manner
When you decide to be a stroppy man child, some will call you out for it. So please don't even put your interactions on here in the same stratosphere as what Paul Smyth has just gone through. Someone has said they want him and his family dead. On here, people question the way you speak to people and the matter of a fact approach you take |
Wow - just wow! If ever a response to a post said more about the respondent (i.e. you) than the poster (in this case, me), you just won the LfW prize! Well done you!
For the record, though you're clearly the kind of chap who never lets reality get in the way of your perverted version of it, I didn't directly compare the occasional abusiveness on this otherwise excellent message board to PS's nasty experience on Instagram (which I haven't seen, because I don't do social media). I mostly made some general and I think fairly uncontroversial remarks about the topic, and suggested, by implication, the thing is on a continuum, which it is. Which you leapt on and twisted, with your own distorted, aggressively patronising and fictitious agenda.
As for your rather pitiful version of the supposed categories of my interlocutors, if you could actually lower yourself to look, you'd find many positive historic reponses both to and from me on countless topics on LfW, so that's just a tad embarrassing for your persecutory thesis, is it not? I was also touched to receive a raft of warm PMs to my mysteriously disappeared thread on football and neurodiversity, given my personal experience of the topic (which also elicited elsewhere one or two charmingly telling replies). Sorry to disappoint you on all points!
Naturally, none of this will perturb your unpleasantness, as I say, which you're clearly very attached to, for reasons, I suggest, that have little to do with me and plenty to do with your own judgmental and smug noxiousness.
This thread wasn't (and isn't) about me, so, I hope Paul will shrug off whatever nastiness came his way of late, just as I've already shrugged off yours. In the meantime, have a great 2026 too - and perhaps ask a good friend to buy yourself a mirror! [Post edited 3 Jan 21:09]
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 21:12 - Jan 3 with 1003 views | sdm1508 |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 20:12 - Jan 3 by stainrods_elbow |
Wow - just wow! If ever a response to a post said more about the respondent (i.e. you) than the poster (in this case, me), you just won the LfW prize! Well done you!
For the record, though you're clearly the kind of chap who never lets reality get in the way of your perverted version of it, I didn't directly compare the occasional abusiveness on this otherwise excellent message board to PS's nasty experience on Instagram (which I haven't seen, because I don't do social media). I mostly made some general and I think fairly uncontroversial remarks about the topic, and suggested, by implication, the thing is on a continuum, which it is. Which you leapt on and twisted, with your own distorted, aggressively patronising and fictitious agenda.
As for your rather pitiful version of the supposed categories of my interlocutors, if you could actually lower yourself to look, you'd find many positive historic reponses both to and from me on countless topics on LfW, so that's just a tad embarrassing for your persecutory thesis, is it not? I was also touched to receive a raft of warm PMs to my mysteriously disappeared thread on football and neurodiversity, given my personal experience of the topic (which also elicited elsewhere one or two charmingly telling replies). Sorry to disappoint you on all points!
Naturally, none of this will perturb your unpleasantness, as I say, which you're clearly very attached to, for reasons, I suggest, that have little to do with me and plenty to do with your own judgmental and smug noxiousness.
This thread wasn't (and isn't) about me, so, I hope Paul will shrug off whatever nastiness came his way of late, just as I've already shrugged off yours. In the meantime, have a great 2026 too - and perhaps ask a good friend to buy yourself a mirror! [Post edited 3 Jan 21:09]
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Wow—still doubling down on the victim act and the high-horse vocabulary, I see.
Let’s be clear: saying your experience is on a ‘continuum’ with a man getting death threats is a massive error in judgment and a transparent back-pedal. You tried to hitch your ego to Paul Smyth’s genuine trauma to give your message-board grievances some moral weight. It’s desperate, and frankly, it’s insulting to what he is actually dealing with. There is no 'continuum' between people finding you a nuisance on a forum and someone fearing for their family’s safety.
What’s truly amazing, though, is your hypocrisy. You spent your post crying about ‘abusiveness’ and ‘malice,’ yet you immediately pivot to personal attacks, calling me ‘pitiful,’ ‘noxious,’ and ‘perverted.’
Do you not see the irony? I have attacked your conduct—I’ve called out the way you speak to people and your behavior on this board. That is a reaction to your actions. You, however, have gone straight for my identity with insults. You are doing the exact thing you claim to hate because you can’t handle being questioned.
As for your 'raft of warm PMs,' that’s a classic defense for someone who can’t stand being called out in public. It doesn’t change the fact that you treat people like shit and then act shocked when they don’t give you a standing ovation.
You tell me to buy a mirror, but you’re the one who seems to spend all day staring into one, convinced you’re the only 'civilised' person in the room. If you want a real discussion, try it without the ego. Until then, you’re just proving my point about your total lack of self-awareness. [Post edited 3 Jan 21:32]
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 21:59 - Jan 3 with 872 views | lightwaterhoop |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 21:12 - Jan 3 by sdm1508 |
Wow—still doubling down on the victim act and the high-horse vocabulary, I see.
Let’s be clear: saying your experience is on a ‘continuum’ with a man getting death threats is a massive error in judgment and a transparent back-pedal. You tried to hitch your ego to Paul Smyth’s genuine trauma to give your message-board grievances some moral weight. It’s desperate, and frankly, it’s insulting to what he is actually dealing with. There is no 'continuum' between people finding you a nuisance on a forum and someone fearing for their family’s safety.
What’s truly amazing, though, is your hypocrisy. You spent your post crying about ‘abusiveness’ and ‘malice,’ yet you immediately pivot to personal attacks, calling me ‘pitiful,’ ‘noxious,’ and ‘perverted.’
Do you not see the irony? I have attacked your conduct—I’ve called out the way you speak to people and your behavior on this board. That is a reaction to your actions. You, however, have gone straight for my identity with insults. You are doing the exact thing you claim to hate because you can’t handle being questioned.
As for your 'raft of warm PMs,' that’s a classic defense for someone who can’t stand being called out in public. It doesn’t change the fact that you treat people like shit and then act shocked when they don’t give you a standing ovation.
You tell me to buy a mirror, but you’re the one who seems to spend all day staring into one, convinced you’re the only 'civilised' person in the room. If you want a real discussion, try it without the ego. Until then, you’re just proving my point about your total lack of self-awareness. [Post edited 3 Jan 21:32]
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A thread that started off as critical of social media abuse develops into social media abuse.The question is do you not see the irony of your post? probably not. | | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 22:14 - Jan 3 with 836 views | DannyPaddox |
No one’s learnt anything … shocking abuse on this thread of people with small premises who happen to eat Pot Noodles and Fray Bentos pies
* auto correct changed penises to premises - there’s a poignancy here |  | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 22:15 - Jan 3 with 832 views | ted_hendrix |
This Is my social media place, I'm on nothing else as I don't see or feel the need to be.
What a strange world we live In.
Anyway without stating the bleeding obvious we really do need to win tomorrow, or at a minimum do not lose.
I'm a great fan of Paul Smyth too. |  |
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 22:26 - Jan 3 with 790 views | QPunkR |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 14:40 - Jan 3 by sdm1508 |
Wow. You just compared your interactions on here to what Paul Smyth has gone through. The self absorbed ego of you. Despite your supposed inntelligence that you like to tell everyone you have or try to showcase, you just don't get get it. Your back in forth on here is a reap what you sow situation.
You either post the majority of the time where your opinion should be treated as fact and are very forthright about it
Someone replies to you in the same manner. You don't like being questioned as it means someone is challenging your intellectual prowess, so you get stroppy and personal. When they again reply in kind, you cry victim.
Your total lack of self awareness is astonishing and the real issue here. If you speak to people like shit, then many will reply back the same way
I believe, there are three types of posters on here when it comes to you
1. The type that call you out for the way you conduct yourself and the way you speak to others
2. Others that think you are a bit of a muppet and probably think the majority of the above, but all credit to them, they just keep quiet
3. They have you on ignore
Now sometimes you can be civil on here, raise opinions and have a discussion like an adult and when that happens people will engage with you in the correct manner
When you decide to be a stroppy man child, some will call you out for it. So please don't even put your interactions on here in the same stratosphere as what Paul Smyth has just gone through. Someone has said they want him and his family dead. On here, people question the way you speak to people and the matter of a fact approach you take |
Very very well said - and as to that absolute melt, I'd say most posters widely fall under category 3, with more joining each week.
The sooner he sods off the better |  |
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 22:46 - Jan 3 with 741 views | sdm1508 |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 22:14 - Jan 3 by DannyPaddox |
No one’s learnt anything … shocking abuse on this thread of people with small premises who happen to eat Pot Noodles and Fray Bentos pies
* auto correct changed penises to premises - there’s a poignancy here |
Haha, fair point Mr Paddock. There’s nothing like a Pot Noodle reference to remind you that we aren't exactly in the House of Lords here.
I’ll hold my hands up to being blunt—I just have a very low tolerance for people hijacking Paul Smyth’s genuine trauma to make their own message-board grievances sound important. I'm happy to leave the 'poignancy' and the mirror-staring to another, I've got a pie to attend to. | | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 23:05 - Jan 3 with 705 views | DannyPaddox |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 22:46 - Jan 3 by sdm1508 |
Haha, fair point Mr Paddock. There’s nothing like a Pot Noodle reference to remind you that we aren't exactly in the House of Lords here.
I’ll hold my hands up to being blunt—I just have a very low tolerance for people hijacking Paul Smyth’s genuine trauma to make their own message-board grievances sound important. I'm happy to leave the 'poignancy' and the mirror-staring to another, I've got a pie to attend to. |
That truly is Fray Bentos poignancy 👏🏼 | | | |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 08:35 - Jan 4 with 460 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 09:02 - Jan 3 by daveB |
It's the whole Tommy Nintendo thing all over again, quite weird and bizarre behaviour. |
Ain't it so! What a saga and as with that, Clive's experience, and those of millions of people, it grates on many levels.
The internet/social media, is an utter bear pit at times and one of the best things I've done is not taking up on it all. I uninstalled Facebook in 2022/3, I appreciate many genuinely can't for work etc., and it makes communication more difficult, but I don't miss the idiocy and unsolicited intrusion. |  |
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 09:27 - Jan 4 with 378 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 14:40 - Jan 3 by sdm1508 |
Wow. You just compared your interactions on here to what Paul Smyth has gone through. The self absorbed ego of you. Despite your supposed inntelligence that you like to tell everyone you have or try to showcase, you just don't get get it. Your back in forth on here is a reap what you sow situation.
You either post the majority of the time where your opinion should be treated as fact and are very forthright about it
Someone replies to you in the same manner. You don't like being questioned as it means someone is challenging your intellectual prowess, so you get stroppy and personal. When they again reply in kind, you cry victim.
Your total lack of self awareness is astonishing and the real issue here. If you speak to people like shit, then many will reply back the same way
I believe, there are three types of posters on here when it comes to you
1. The type that call you out for the way you conduct yourself and the way you speak to others
2. Others that think you are a bit of a muppet and probably think the majority of the above, but all credit to them, they just keep quiet
3. They have you on ignore
Now sometimes you can be civil on here, raise opinions and have a discussion like an adult and when that happens people will engage with you in the correct manner
When you decide to be a stroppy man child, some will call you out for it. So please don't even put your interactions on here in the same stratosphere as what Paul Smyth has just gone through. Someone has said they want him and his family dead. On here, people question the way you speak to people and the matter of a fact approach you take |
No. 3 - I just cannot praise the ignore button enough. That said, its not infallible, and I occasionally see posters I've got on ignore.
But on the whole, the ignore button gives the elbow to those who need, elbowing. Life's way too short to waste on such people and starving them of the oxygen of recognition is more damaging than you can imagine. | |
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 09:39 - Jan 4 with 344 views | numptydumpty |
| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 09:27 - Jan 4 by PlanetHonneywood |
No. 3 - I just cannot praise the ignore button enough. That said, its not infallible, and I occasionally see posters I've got on ignore.
But on the whole, the ignore button gives the elbow to those who need, elbowing. Life's way too short to waste on such people and starving them of the oxygen of recognition is more damaging than you can imagine. |
i dont use the ignore button myself and try my best not to rise to the bait. Getting better at that as get older, but when i have, have got myself all tangled up.
Anyhow, people only change if they want to, or feel they need to.
Regards Smythie, probably on the bench today for me, but if he gets on or is playing, hope he gets an extra cheer from all of us. He has been here a long time and will be continuing for a little while longer and good on him. A very likeable player for me and if he was at my workplace, sort of bloke, i would like as a mate too.
Definitely a great squad member, rarely injured and always gives it 100%.. [Post edited 4 Jan 9:41]
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| Paul Smyth - Social Media Abuse on 10:35 - Jan 4 with 282 views | OakR |
Just to add to what others have said Clive, that's absolutely disgusting what has been sent to you.
This site if superb, and your writing is unmatched - we all know it, and so do many fans of other clubs, it's such a shame people feel the need to have a go at people who are simply better than them. | |
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