| Team for Oxford? 18:42 - Jan 17 with 10495 views | connell10 |
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| Team for Oxford? on 09:13 - Jan 19 with 1356 views | wombat |
| Team for Oxford? on 21:13 - Jan 17 by Mr_Beef |
Taking the piss out of the manager's accent? Wow. 🤣
I'm assuming that his English is far better than your French too. |
not a fan of stainrod by any means but did lauigh at that , its actually pretty truthful to be honest , his pre macth press conferences are lets says a bit samy. in recent weeks , dont forget the question about how good the fans are for travelling in such numbers . arent we allowed to take the piss out of accents anymore by the way ? |  |
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| Team for Oxford? on 09:16 - Jan 19 with 1349 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Totally agree about playing Kone on his own. He looks a different player when we feed him in the box, rather than him having to play deeper with Burrell in front of him. Maybe stick Morgan as the extra man in midfield with Madsen and Hayden?
Yes, we have injuries but we still have a decent starting line-up and should be looking to beat Oxford IMO. |  | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:18 - Jan 19 with 1341 views | wombat |
| Team for Oxford? on 23:45 - Jan 17 by ozexile |
Maybe we'll see our new 4 million defender at some stage? I mean it's not like we're slipping down the league or anything and out of the play off picture. Or knocked out of the cup at the first hurdle too whilst he was available. |
cooks been outstnading last two games as has dunne , so why do we need to bring him in immed ?
let cyclying ben get a few sessions into his hamstrings first then chuck him in as a 6 .
our issue as its been for months is how we are set up same as we are set up every game 442 . | |
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| Team for Oxford? on 09:34 - Jan 19 with 1308 views | ozexile |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:18 - Jan 19 by wombat |
cooks been outstnading last two games as has dunne , so why do we need to bring him in immed ?
let cyclying ben get a few sessions into his hamstrings first then chuck him in as a 6 .
our issue as its been for months is how we are set up same as we are set up every game 442 . |
We haven't won the last 2 games to my knowledge? | | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:41 - Jan 19 with 1280 views | wombat |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:34 - Jan 19 by ozexile |
We haven't won the last 2 games to my knowledge? |
and thats down to the centre backs ? you have lost me sorry clean sheet sat and edward coming in will do what to make us better up front which is the main issue at the moment . our issue is and has been for a while we are creating naff all up front 2/3 shots on tagret a game i think somebody posted | |
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| Team for Oxford? on 09:44 - Jan 19 with 1276 views | Maggsinho |
| Team for Oxford? on 23:45 - Jan 17 by ozexile |
Maybe we'll see our new 4 million defender at some stage? I mean it's not like we're slipping down the league or anything and out of the play off picture. Or knocked out of the cup at the first hurdle too whilst he was available. |
We're 11th, four points off the play offs so not really slipping down the league or out of the play off picture.
Edwards will soon be a fixture in the team, so I wouldn't worry too much. |  | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:49 - Jan 19 with 1254 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:41 - Jan 19 by wombat |
and thats down to the centre backs ? you have lost me sorry clean sheet sat and edward coming in will do what to make us better up front which is the main issue at the moment . our issue is and has been for a while we are creating naff all up front 2/3 shots on tagret a game i think somebody posted |
But Wombat that's part of what Edwards brings.
I agree with you, Cook and Dunne have been superb in the last couple but only as 'stoppers'. They're both bodies on the line, set piece discipline type centre halves and should get a lot of credit for being so. But after January last year Edwards was arguably our most progressive passer of the ball, even / especially when at centre half. What you lose with last ditch heroics and defensive set pieces with Edwards over Cook, you gain in getting the ball toward the right players in the right spaces from an attacking sense. |  | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:58 - Jan 19 with 1202 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:49 - Jan 19 by Padulas_Shampoo |
But Wombat that's part of what Edwards brings.
I agree with you, Cook and Dunne have been superb in the last couple but only as 'stoppers'. They're both bodies on the line, set piece discipline type centre halves and should get a lot of credit for being so. But after January last year Edwards was arguably our most progressive passer of the ball, even / especially when at centre half. What you lose with last ditch heroics and defensive set pieces with Edwards over Cook, you gain in getting the ball toward the right players in the right spaces from an attacking sense. |
Indeed. Edwards gets it up the pitch a bit more so Madsen gets it a bit higher so the winger gets it a bit higher so the striker gets it near enough to the goal to score. The theory is sound anyway. | | | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 10:17 - Jan 19 with 1133 views | ozexile |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:18 - Jan 19 by wombat |
cooks been outstnading last two games as has dunne , so why do we need to bring him in immed ?
let cyclying ben get a few sessions into his hamstrings first then chuck him in as a 6 .
our issue as its been for months is how we are set up same as we are set up every game 442 . |
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| Team for Oxford? on 10:19 - Jan 19 with 1121 views | wombat |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:58 - Jan 19 by Watford_Ranger |
Indeed. Edwards gets it up the pitch a bit more so Madsen gets it a bit higher so the winger gets it a bit higher so the striker gets it near enough to the goal to score. The theory is sound anyway. |
the theory is spot on , in an idea world thats how it should happen but knowing us it prob wont , recently the one area of the team which isnt that broken is the back four , yes norrington cant play 3 game weeks but fields done a decent job when asked .
it wont happen but id love us to go to a back three with edwards dictating play in the middle of cook and dunne . remember the coach hasnt seen edwards play well prob the odd video but not an actuall in the flesh game so wont have a clue what hes like with the ball for a while | |
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| Team for Oxford? on 10:26 - Jan 19 with 1100 views | ozexile |
| Team for Oxford? on 09:41 - Jan 19 by wombat |
and thats down to the centre backs ? you have lost me sorry clean sheet sat and edward coming in will do what to make us better up front which is the main issue at the moment . our issue is and has been for a while we are creating naff all up front 2/3 shots on tagret a game i think somebody posted |
I thought one of his strengths was stepping into midfield and creating an extra man therefore enabling greater attacking options and potentially greater goal scoring opportunities? | | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 10:29 - Jan 19 with 1082 views | TheChef |
No idea.
And they have a new manager, so we know what usually happens... |  |
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| Team for Oxford? on 10:51 - Jan 19 with 1031 views | derbyhoop |
| Team for Oxford? on 12:06 - Jan 18 by R_from_afar |
"Minus 6 is a bit heavy chaps".
I think it's because he was taking the mickey out of JS' accent.
My aunt has lived and worked in France since the 1970s and even though she is totally fluent in French, locals can still tell from her accent that she's not French. |
The locals can often spot we're not French before we say anything.
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| Team for Oxford? on 11:05 - Jan 19 with 980 views | Rsole |
| Team for Oxford? on 10:19 - Jan 19 by wombat |
the theory is spot on , in an idea world thats how it should happen but knowing us it prob wont , recently the one area of the team which isnt that broken is the back four , yes norrington cant play 3 game weeks but fields done a decent job when asked .
it wont happen but id love us to go to a back three with edwards dictating play in the middle of cook and dunne . remember the coach hasnt seen edwards play well prob the odd video but not an actuall in the flesh game so wont have a clue what hes like with the ball for a while |
We could also start Edwards in midfield, ahead of Cook and Dunne, which might solve both challenges and create a higher line plus he can drop into a back three, as required.
I don’t think we will, but we could try that out as an alternative approach at the drive in movie theatre. |  |
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| Team for Oxford? on 11:23 - Jan 19 with 933 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Team for Oxford? on 10:19 - Jan 19 by wombat |
the theory is spot on , in an idea world thats how it should happen but knowing us it prob wont , recently the one area of the team which isnt that broken is the back four , yes norrington cant play 3 game weeks but fields done a decent job when asked .
it wont happen but id love us to go to a back three with edwards dictating play in the middle of cook and dunne . remember the coach hasnt seen edwards play well prob the odd video but not an actuall in the flesh game so wont have a clue what hes like with the ball for a while |
I mean it did literally happen - with us - 12 months ago. It's not like Edwards is a liability as a defender either, he was arguably our best defender and our best passer in the second half of last season.
Even if the back 4 isn't 'broken' defensively, it could still be a reason the other two units aren't functioning. They have to do more than just defend.
I think we've been the most functional and balanced over the last couple of years when we've had Edwards and / or a fit and fluent Clarke Salter in the back four and I don't think that's any coincidence. The more we can get the ball to Madsen the more chances we'll create. With Edwards in the side he'll get the ball more often. It's pretty much as simple as that. We have to get him fit and ready ASAP because I think we're crying out for him. | | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 11:41 - Jan 19 with 862 views | francisbowles |
| Team for Oxford? on 11:23 - Jan 19 by Padulas_Shampoo |
I mean it did literally happen - with us - 12 months ago. It's not like Edwards is a liability as a defender either, he was arguably our best defender and our best passer in the second half of last season.
Even if the back 4 isn't 'broken' defensively, it could still be a reason the other two units aren't functioning. They have to do more than just defend.
I think we've been the most functional and balanced over the last couple of years when we've had Edwards and / or a fit and fluent Clarke Salter in the back four and I don't think that's any coincidence. The more we can get the ball to Madsen the more chances we'll create. With Edwards in the side he'll get the ball more often. It's pretty much as simple as that. We have to get him fit and ready ASAP because I think we're crying out for him. |
With most of the wingers injured, it might be a good time to try three at the back with Mbengue and RND or Esquerdinha as wing backs. Smyth up front with Kone.
Kolli off the bench. Morgan or Hayden, Madsen and Field in midfield. | | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 11:44 - Jan 19 with 854 views | numptydumpty |
| Team for Oxford? on 12:07 - Jan 18 by Burnleyhoop |
Shooting aside, I haven’t seen anything that indicates he is a championship striker.
Cannot control a ball to save his life, lost possession time after time yesterday. Rarely wins a header, gives free kicks away for fun and his passing accuracy must be awful.
May improve, but at 22, he is not a kid. The technical aspects of your game should be well established by now. I can see why he has done well in the lower leagues, but he has some way to go to become a decent championship striker. Hope he does, but I find him a painfully frustrating watch.
And yes, I have seen plenty of shite strikers, been supporting this lot since the 70’s. Chap. |
So in all your time since following us since the 70s- same time as myself watching QPR actually - and by your own admission we have had some in your words "shite strikers", in all that time and all other teams squads at this level also, Kone is the worst technically that you have EVER seen at this level.
Think you know that statement is simply not true in anyways and you seen ourselves at this level for many seasons.
Sorry that is some statement to make....
Really !!
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| Team for Oxford? on 11:53 - Jan 19 with 827 views | daveB |
I don't think a change of system will make a huge difference, we played with an extra midfielder last season and results and performances were not hugely different.
I didn't go to Stoke but find it odd if Kone wasn't the more advance of the 2 forwards with Kolli dropping off into the 10 poisition, that looks to me to be something that can work.
As for the team tomorrow expect Field to come in for RND and Edwards either in for Cook or Hayden but not sure what else he can change really unless anyone is back from injury |  | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 11:59 - Jan 19 with 811 views | dm97 |
| Team for Oxford? on 11:53 - Jan 19 by daveB |
I don't think a change of system will make a huge difference, we played with an extra midfielder last season and results and performances were not hugely different.
I didn't go to Stoke but find it odd if Kone wasn't the more advance of the 2 forwards with Kolli dropping off into the 10 poisition, that looks to me to be something that can work.
As for the team tomorrow expect Field to come in for RND and Edwards either in for Cook or Hayden but not sure what else he can change really unless anyone is back from injury |
I’d add that while Morgan is a good young player - he’s not going to come in and revolutionise our ability to keep the ball.
JS identified in August that this squad isn’t that capable of playing keep ball, so setting up differently to do so feels unlikely.
Maybe if, big if, you get Ronnie and JCS on the pitch at the same time that changes. But until then I’d be reticent to go 433 with current midfielders. There is a reason Madsen plays every minute, no other (senior) players can pass it forward 15 yards.
Summer priority no2 (after a decent LB who can actually play 3 games a week) |  | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 12:32 - Jan 19 with 761 views | nix |
| Team for Oxford? on 11:59 - Jan 19 by dm97 |
I’d add that while Morgan is a good young player - he’s not going to come in and revolutionise our ability to keep the ball.
JS identified in August that this squad isn’t that capable of playing keep ball, so setting up differently to do so feels unlikely.
Maybe if, big if, you get Ronnie and JCS on the pitch at the same time that changes. But until then I’d be reticent to go 433 with current midfielders. There is a reason Madsen plays every minute, no other (senior) players can pass it forward 15 yards.
Summer priority no2 (after a decent LB who can actually play 3 games a week) |
The trouble is Kone and Kolli together with Smyth and Dembele just doesn’t work either. You’ve got basically no one who can hold onto the ball. Especially if our opponents press us. Hence the 28?% possession and 58% pass completion at Stoke. No one was able to get hold of the ball long enough to get away from the press to make a decent pass. Madsen can pass it but only to someone who can control it and move forward.
I thought Morgan did quite well early on in acting as a link player last season, showing for the ball a lot and moving us up the pitch.
Chair can be infuriating in holding onto the ball for too long but at least he can hold onto it. We miss that.
Teams know they just have to press us and we lose the ball especially if we’re moving out from defence. If you look at other teams playing they have more space as teams know they can play around the press as their control and passing is better.
Interesting to see if Ronnie would make a difference as he does seem to be able to move past the press and take us up the pitch. May resolve our current issue. |  | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 12:51 - Jan 19 with 728 views | dmm |
| Team for Oxford? on 12:32 - Jan 19 by nix |
The trouble is Kone and Kolli together with Smyth and Dembele just doesn’t work either. You’ve got basically no one who can hold onto the ball. Especially if our opponents press us. Hence the 28?% possession and 58% pass completion at Stoke. No one was able to get hold of the ball long enough to get away from the press to make a decent pass. Madsen can pass it but only to someone who can control it and move forward.
I thought Morgan did quite well early on in acting as a link player last season, showing for the ball a lot and moving us up the pitch.
Chair can be infuriating in holding onto the ball for too long but at least he can hold onto it. We miss that.
Teams know they just have to press us and we lose the ball especially if we’re moving out from defence. If you look at other teams playing they have more space as teams know they can play around the press as their control and passing is better.
Interesting to see if Ronnie would make a difference as he does seem to be able to move past the press and take us up the pitch. May resolve our current issue. |
I agree with you about Morgan. I think he's overdue his chance in CM, at least off the bench for 30 mins. If we're serious about the young players' pathway to the first team then Morgan must not be left on the bench. Play him. |  | | |
| Team for Oxford? on 12:56 - Jan 19 with 704 views | TheChef |
| Team for Oxford? on 12:51 - Jan 19 by dmm |
I agree with you about Morgan. I think he's overdue his chance in CM, at least off the bench for 30 mins. If we're serious about the young players' pathway to the first team then Morgan must not be left on the bench. Play him. |
The lack of development/interest in Morgan playing this season has been very strange to say the least.
If we're looking to develop and sell young talent you'd think he'd be at the forefront of that. Can only assume the manager doesn't rate him. Shame. | |
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| Team for Oxford? on 13:34 - Jan 19 with 586 views | wombat |
| Team for Oxford? on 12:56 - Jan 19 by TheChef |
The lack of development/interest in Morgan playing this season has been very strange to say the least.
If we're looking to develop and sell young talent you'd think he'd be at the forefront of that. Can only assume the manager doesn't rate him. Shame. |
sure that was the biggest selling point about our new coach vast experience of bringing young players through yet rightfully in some occasions he either ignores them or in most cases plays them in a diff postion , morgan is now back up right back being one of them . | |
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| Team for Oxford? on 14:04 - Jan 19 with 523 views | dm97 |
| Team for Oxford? on 12:32 - Jan 19 by nix |
The trouble is Kone and Kolli together with Smyth and Dembele just doesn’t work either. You’ve got basically no one who can hold onto the ball. Especially if our opponents press us. Hence the 28?% possession and 58% pass completion at Stoke. No one was able to get hold of the ball long enough to get away from the press to make a decent pass. Madsen can pass it but only to someone who can control it and move forward.
I thought Morgan did quite well early on in acting as a link player last season, showing for the ball a lot and moving us up the pitch.
Chair can be infuriating in holding onto the ball for too long but at least he can hold onto it. We miss that.
Teams know they just have to press us and we lose the ball especially if we’re moving out from defence. If you look at other teams playing they have more space as teams know they can play around the press as their control and passing is better.
Interesting to see if Ronnie would make a difference as he does seem to be able to move past the press and take us up the pitch. May resolve our current issue. |
Yeah that’s a fair point. I’m not hammering Morgan by any means, I just don’t think he’s going to come in and make us all that much better on the ball. If anything I think he’s more suited to way we play at the moment. Given Hayden’s age and injury record he should definitely be in with a shout to start next to Madsen at some point soon.
Totally agree re:Chair, when he plays we are much more fluid irrespective of system. I think he’s being underestimated by a lot of our fan base now we have other shiny toys. Still the best player at the club by a distance for me. [Post edited 19 Jan 14:05]
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| Team for Oxford? on 14:09 - Jan 19 with 487 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Team for Oxford? on 12:32 - Jan 19 by nix |
The trouble is Kone and Kolli together with Smyth and Dembele just doesn’t work either. You’ve got basically no one who can hold onto the ball. Especially if our opponents press us. Hence the 28?% possession and 58% pass completion at Stoke. No one was able to get hold of the ball long enough to get away from the press to make a decent pass. Madsen can pass it but only to someone who can control it and move forward.
I thought Morgan did quite well early on in acting as a link player last season, showing for the ball a lot and moving us up the pitch.
Chair can be infuriating in holding onto the ball for too long but at least he can hold onto it. We miss that.
Teams know they just have to press us and we lose the ball especially if we’re moving out from defence. If you look at other teams playing they have more space as teams know they can play around the press as their control and passing is better.
Interesting to see if Ronnie would make a difference as he does seem to be able to move past the press and take us up the pitch. May resolve our current issue. |
Basically, the only thing that worked at Stoke - if you can call it that - was our defence. Our midfield is dysfunctional, and our attack ineffectual. Now we've introduced a busload of cynicism and sh*thousery into the equation. Happy days! [Post edited 19 Jan 14:10]
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