| 20 MPH 11:54 - Jan 29 with 4022 views | BlackCrowe |
Ok, i know it's my fault but really...
Already had 3 points and then in the space of 2 months picked 1 x 24mph in a 20 and 2 x 23mph. All on the same road, a main wide A road that was 40mph not so long ago. So about to lose my licene for 6 months.
Rang the police phone number as instructed, nice guy i spoke to said they literally can't cope with the volume of 12 pointers coming through since 20 mph became a mainstream thing.
Still at least the council can spend it on rainbow pedestrian crossing etc.
Grrrr.
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| 20 MPH on 17:39 - Jan 29 with 1290 views | MrSheen |
| 20 MPH on 16:06 - Jan 29 by Myke |
In Ireland they have recently introduced 60KM zones for ‘country’ roads. But they haven’t put up 60KM signposts, that would be boring. Instead they have erected speed signs with FIVE diagonal black lines across it - I mean how could you not know it was a 60KM zone - clear as dishwater. |
My house in Kerry is at the end of a quarter mile boreen. There’s a primary school at the bottom just before the main road. One year I went back and the council had installed a 30 km/h sign at the turning, and about 100m up from the school, a brand new 80 km/h sign. Try as hard as I can, I’ve never got above 27 km/h before the road runs out. |  | | |
| 20 MPH on 17:39 - Jan 29 with 1291 views | qpr_1968 |
| 20 MPH on 13:39 - Jan 29 by SunnyVanGo |
Speeding fines, points, potholes and pedestrian crossings have slowed me down too.
Funny thing is, since I’ve adapted my driving I don’t seem to take any longer getting places.
Related to this was shifting from moaning about traffic, to accepting that I am the traffic - that’s helped my mindset too.
Life’s hard enough without having roads boil my piss. |
dont forget the bike lanes that are as wide as a car lane....
take king street/hammersmith for instance.
a bus broke down outside marks and spencer , if you dont know king street, its a one way street with two lanes, both same size one for cars one for bikes, with them poles dividing the two lanes.
ok the traffic had to be diverted down shepherds bush road and turn left at goldhawk road...
but the two buses and remaining cars still behind that broken down bus must have been a nightmare to get out. |  |
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| 20 MPH on 18:18 - Jan 29 with 1158 views | RBlock |
| 20 MPH on 17:39 - Jan 29 by qpr_1968 |
dont forget the bike lanes that are as wide as a car lane....
take king street/hammersmith for instance.
a bus broke down outside marks and spencer , if you dont know king street, its a one way street with two lanes, both same size one for cars one for bikes, with them poles dividing the two lanes.
ok the traffic had to be diverted down shepherds bush road and turn left at goldhawk road...
but the two buses and remaining cars still behind that broken down bus must have been a nightmare to get out. |
It's a one-way street for cars, but it's a two-way cycle lane that needs adequate space for bikes going both ways. |  | | |
| 20 MPH on 18:54 - Jan 29 with 1089 views | Superhoops2808 |
| 20 MPH on 14:41 - Jan 29 by BrianMcCarthy |
I don't know what it's like in England, but in Ireland there's no speeding around schools because an Irish citizen who has children is required by law to double-park, roll down their windows and talk to their friends for half the morning.
This has successfully eliminated speeding. |
Brian, Do they happen to drive Range Rover Vogue's and dress in their pyjamas and dressing gowns (Or a onesie)
Because if so they have emigrated to here too  |  | | |
| 20 MPH on 22:14 - Jan 29 with 917 views | Benny_the_Ball |
Compelling? From TFL? Don't make me laugh.
Present some independent, evidence-based research and I'll consider reading it. Anything peddled by Khan is rejected.
And whilst we're on the subject, let's also consider the environmental impact of making cars run so slow. |  | | |
| 20 MPH on 22:19 - Jan 29 with 910 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| 20 MPH on 13:43 - Jan 29 by kensalriser |
If you're unable to control the speed of your car to the extent that you would certainly fail a test, I can't really see why you would expect to be able to continue driving. |
Have a day off, son. Driving at 23MPH is hardly being out of control. | | | |
| 20 MPH on 23:52 - Jan 29 with 824 views | MrSheen |
Nothing is more corrosive of respect for the law than its selective application, particularly when it’s motivated by revenue collection and the convenience of enforcement. Turning the police into a profit centre is a disastrous strategy for maintaining authority, as is belittling your armed forces. Who else is going to sustain you, your enemies? [Post edited 29 Jan 23:55]
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| 20 MPH on 01:29 - Jan 30 with 770 views | Boston |
| 20 MPH on 17:36 - Jan 29 by E17hoop |
For a person on foot, the average risk of being killed if struck by a car is about 1 in 10 at 23 mph.
Travelling at 32mph and that rises to 1 in 4.
Reduced speed limits save lives. |
Lower speed limits reduce damage to one's automobile when struck by a dawdling pedestrian. | |
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| 20 MPH on 02:57 - Jan 30 with 735 views | HAYESBOY |
| 20 MPH on 22:14 - Jan 29 by Benny_the_Ball |
Compelling? From TFL? Don't make me laugh.
Present some independent, evidence-based research and I'll consider reading it. Anything peddled by Khan is rejected.
And whilst we're on the subject, let's also consider the environmental impact of making cars run so slow. |
The report collates collision data from STATS19 to examine the impact of the introduction of 20mph schemes on borough roads. STATS19 is the data collected by the police recording details of road collisions that have resulted in personal injury. Data is collected according to specifications set out by the Department for Transport. |  |
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| 20 MPH on 05:06 - Jan 30 with 691 views | SunnyVanGo |
| 20 MPH on 17:39 - Jan 29 by qpr_1968 |
dont forget the bike lanes that are as wide as a car lane....
take king street/hammersmith for instance.
a bus broke down outside marks and spencer , if you dont know king street, its a one way street with two lanes, both same size one for cars one for bikes, with them poles dividing the two lanes.
ok the traffic had to be diverted down shepherds bush road and turn left at goldhawk road...
but the two buses and remaining cars still behind that broken down bus must have been a nightmare to get out. |
Yep. Hard to get right.
Adding zorbing lanes could be fun.
Just bouncing ideas about. 👀 |  | | |
| 20 MPH on 06:48 - Jan 30 with 644 views | Spaceman_P |
Can I ask was this in South West London?
My Dad got done on the A3 near the Robin Hood round about more or less doing the same he had to then go on the drivers awareness course to avoid the points.
But 24 in a 20 is such fine margins especially in my dads case at 4.30am |  | | |
| 20 MPH on 10:10 - Jan 30 with 544 views | TheChef |
| 20 MPH on 17:25 - Jan 29 by BklynRanger |
I'm saying this as a non driver, but there is also an argument about giving a certain amount of reasonable flexibility in the months immediately after these roads have been reduced to 20. e.g. 23 in a 20 mph zone - there's a line between public safety and affecting people's finances, livelihood etc.
No argument about the reasons for 20 mph, but like every policy it needs to be implemented in a sensible way. |
Well quite - but the bottom line is it's more about generating revenue, road safety is largely secondary. |  |
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| 20 MPH on 10:12 - Jan 30 with 540 views | TheChef |
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| 20 MPH on 10:54 - Jan 30 with 492 views | E17hoop |
| 20 MPH on 10:10 - Jan 30 by TheChef |
Well quite - but the bottom line is it's more about generating revenue, road safety is largely secondary. |
Fine revenue goes to central government (consolidated fund), not local councils directly. Indeed, councils are actually spending significant money implementing these schemes with no direct financial return - it costs them about £1,100 per kilometre to add signage, enforcement, etc.
If it were about revenue, they'd stick with 30mph limits and enforce those - much easier to catch people doing 40mph+ with bigger fines. The 20mph limits actually make enforcement harder (as the police told the OP) because the volume is overwhelming the system.
The public health evidence is genuinely driving this, even if the implementation feels heavy-handed. |  |
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| 20 MPH on 15:09 - Jan 30 with 383 views | Boston |
Remember when 18 meant 15 - yeah, two pints of lager mate. | |
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| 20 MPH on 16:10 - Jan 30 with 328 views | Drewster |
All the best with the insurance companies getting a new quote after a 6 month ban. I bet half wont even give you a quote.
They find any excuse to increase premiums even if you're squeaky clean (mine went up 58% last year). |  | | |
| 20 MPH on 18:05 - Jan 30 with 260 views | davman |
| 20 MPH on 16:10 - Jan 30 by Drewster |
All the best with the insurance companies getting a new quote after a 6 month ban. I bet half wont even give you a quote.
They find any excuse to increase premiums even if you're squeaky clean (mine went up 58% last year). |
Got done at 23mph when taking a detour off the A316 on the way to HQ in October. Did speed awareness course, so no points.
Since then, not taking any chances. Stay in 2nd gear and go slow. Been beeped, been aggressively overtaken and caused traffic jams. I know that the moment I fold, it'll be me not them that get punished.
I absolutely get the science, but it really is all about risk.Just like drink driving, you'll probably be alright unless someone pops up in front of you. Then they are at risk and your life may fall apart with a conviction.
It shouldn't be hard, but as driving is a "learned" activity, slowing down to 20 when others aren't will be tough especially for those of us who have been driving for 30+ years.
I don't mind the rukes, but do mind when I get done when plenty of others break the rules and get away with it.
The sooner driverless cars get on the road, the better. |  |
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| 20 MPH on 15:14 - Jan 31 with 92 views | Bluce_Ree |
Driving's not the giggle it used to be. Luckily I live up north where traffic and 20mph limits isn't a thing yet but it'll come.
Thing is, it takes me 40 mins to drive to work. If I had to get buses/trains, it'd be double that and then some. And I used to get the train twenty years ago and it was bollocks. Waiting in the cold, the train getting cancelled. F**king miss me with all that shit. Those days are over. I need to drive, it's not optional. So stop f**king with it.
And 20mph. What a load of f**king shit that is. You know what, how about some responsibility from people who are walking/crossing the road. I'll tell you what I've never done. I've never run a red light, I've never gone over a zebra crossing without checking, I've never driven on the pavement like a cop in a 1970s car chase.
"Oh but if you hit someone at 20mph they've got a 400% better chance of not dying than blah blah blah... BLAH"
How about this? How about I drive like a normal person and you stop playing Frogger.
It doesn't matter if I'm driving 10mph or 40mph if you're on the pavement and not scampering around in the middle of the road like some sort of tw@t.
"Oh but what if a kid runs out"
Are we still doing that? How about you hold your kid's hand and not your iPhone. I never randomly ran across roads as a kid because my mum would have f**king known and sniped me from the roof top. She was f**king omnipresent.
"Already had 3 points and then in the space of 2 months picked 1 x 24mph in a 20 and 2 x 23mph. All on the same road, a main wide A road that was 40mph not so long ago. So about to lose my licene for 6 months."
24, 23 and 23. Losing your license for that is unconstutional! Instead of that, lock up drink drivers, lock up people who severely break the limit, lock up people who kill people with their cars. But don't go after a man who's just trying to get around at 23 mph. F**k. Cameron's Britain, bruv. [Post edited 31 Jan 15:16]
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