| Field to Norwich 16:41 - Feb 2 with 13673 views | stevenagehoop |
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| Field to Norwich on 09:33 - Feb 3 with 1687 views | BrizR |
| Field to Norwich on 09:20 - Feb 3 by JamesB1979 |
With Varane injured and Hayden “rested” he didn’t start. So JS sees him as only playing if we have 3 injuries in central midfield. If the manager doesn’t want to play him, what can the club do? And he’s not a left back. Hes not comfortable there. We can’t talk about being a development club to not use Esquerdinha as reserve left back.
I don’t believe Field is happy not playing. So what option do the club have, unless you suggest they tell JS to play him more. Field is a great professional for the club but I also think it’s patronising to him to say: “stick around mate because you’re great to have around, you won’t play much but just good to have you there.” |
This 100%. We have a midfield two and it's unbalanced - one of them is Madsen, and then the other is Field/Hayden/Varane. Even when Stephan has changed it up recently, he's preferred to play Morgan over Field. When Field has played he's almost always been out of position. The guy is a senior player in the prime of his career, a big figure in the squad, has captained the side on several occasions, and he's doing bit parts at left back while he's behind a 20 year old from the dev squad in his preferred position after years of being ever-present for us? Keeping him around is only going to make him miserable, and not playing does nothing for his value. A good loan out that lets him play is best for everyone - Norwich might buy him at the end, or if he plays well someone else will. We're in zero danger of going down, probably not going up, none of our development prospects are currently making a serious case for themselves as a sale except for Nico (and he remains the only player we have no direct replacement for, so any sale means you need to go and find another one of him), so if you can save some wages for a few months and potentially sell Sam at the end to keep things steady that's what you have to do. |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 09:35 - Feb 3 with 1669 views | dmm |
| Field to Norwich on 09:11 - Feb 3 by GaryBannister86 |
I am certainly not a Nourry lover, but I like his latest communication on the transfer window. A much-needed dollop of humanity and talking about the players properly rather than all that "progressing into zone#10" nonsense from before.
Although that bit about the Aussies and their physical development smacks a little of the infamous comments the England women's cricket coach made when we got slaughtered out there last year. |
It's good to see Nourry making this effort in his supporter communications, even if the article gives us little new info.
I thought the bit on signing Australians was rather thin: "We continue to believe strongly in the quality of the athletic and physical development that young Australian footballers receive between the ages of 10 and 16, especially in key population centres like Perth, Sydney and Melbourne." It suggests Nourry is aware there's concern about this focus on recruitment from Perth Glory. I've submitted a question about this via the 'Business & strategy Q&A' form and hope I get a better answer than that. |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 09:39 - Feb 3 with 1595 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Field to Norwich on 07:19 - Feb 3 by GaryBannister86 |
So strange. You may not rate him as an amazing player, but if you can't see his contribution and professionalism and effort every time he stepped on the pitch for us, then I just don't get it.
I'm glad there is no permanent option to buy. Just like Cook and Dunne, these are the guys you need 4 or 5 of in any successful Championship team. Always available, always committed. It's all the flaky / unproven ones that remain that we should be looking to trade in and out, not proven, experienced, reliable performers.
Shipping Field out is not a sign that we are improving, in my opinion, it's a sign that the current manager failed to watch the whole of the last two seasons and realise that if you give Sam a run of games, he will always be one of the most important cogs in the team. Dropping him in and out the side? Not so much.
Good luck Sam, I hope you do well, persuade the management here they have made a mistake and come back to where you belong. |
I seriously doubt JS didn't watch any of last seasons games. In fact, he said he watched all of them
As I said earlier, Field played at the beginning of the season, didn't impress, and is deemed surplus to requirement.
The easiest thing QPR could have done is made him sit on the bench until May, getting the odd 10 minutes, but instead, they've agreed to let him go. He gets the chance to play, and we get the wage off our books. | |
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| Field to Norwich on 10:02 - Feb 3 with 1410 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Field to Norwich on 09:39 - Feb 3 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I seriously doubt JS didn't watch any of last seasons games. In fact, he said he watched all of them
As I said earlier, Field played at the beginning of the season, didn't impress, and is deemed surplus to requirement.
The easiest thing QPR could have done is made him sit on the bench until May, getting the odd 10 minutes, but instead, they've agreed to let him go. He gets the chance to play, and we get the wage off our books. |
From Field’s point of view he hopefully gets the chance to play regularly for the rest of the season to either persuade Norwich or someone else to sign him permanently in the summer or show Stéphan what he can do for QPR next season.
From QPR’s point of view we reduce our wage bill for the rest of the season (perhaps with a loan fee), put a player frustrated at not getting many minutes but under contract in the shop window with a view to selling in the summer for a decent amount (or welcome back into next year’s squad) and also grant the wish of a decent and respected senior player for regular football.
Hope it works out well for both parties. |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 10:17 - Feb 3 with 1350 views | aston_hoop |
| Field to Norwich on 09:35 - Feb 3 by dmm |
It's good to see Nourry making this effort in his supporter communications, even if the article gives us little new info.
I thought the bit on signing Australians was rather thin: "We continue to believe strongly in the quality of the athletic and physical development that young Australian footballers receive between the ages of 10 and 16, especially in key population centres like Perth, Sydney and Melbourne." It suggests Nourry is aware there's concern about this focus on recruitment from Perth Glory. I've submitted a question about this via the 'Business & strategy Q&A' form and hope I get a better answer than that. |
It's definitely worth asking the question. The fact they are all from the same agent, it doesn't have to be something nefarious, it could even be something good, but I'd like to know the thinking from the club. Because it's not us picking the best players the data are showing, it's us picking players up from a particular agent. |  |
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| Field to Norwich on 10:24 - Feb 3 with 1313 views | kernowhoop |
Trust the club on this one. Sam has been good for QPR and is well-liked, but, if there is a plan by the management that makes him a second-ranking player, he will not enjoy that after being both important and popular. What Sam wants also matters. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 10:27 - Feb 3 with 1296 views | TK1 |
| Field to Norwich on 09:15 - Feb 3 by lassel |
I mean in fairness the plan was to loan out Morgan but a good offer came in for Field and they had to pivot, especially as Field wanted to go and play.
There seems to be a general underestimation of how much they’ve spent and the need to recover funds. |
Totally this. There was a very long thread about how imperative it was to sign Ronnie Edwards for £4.5m along with what is no doubt among the highest wage packet at the club.
We cannot then also have Sam Field, 27 going on 28, also on one of the highest wages, sitting miserably on the bench, third in line for a holding midfield slot/third in line for LB, just because he's the right sort or the glue beneath the floorboards of the club or whatever has been said here.
To sign Edwards and Obiku - a necessary one judging by the glimpse of Burrell on crutches in this week's training vid! - something has to go. I'm surprised it's not more but you can only sell/loan out what others want and you generally can do without.
Sixteen games left, that's all. If there's another bad injury in midfield we just have to make do for those games. That's why we have a Dev squad, not to have senior players kicking around miserably. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 10:37 - Feb 3 with 1207 views | BklynRanger |
Less cover in 3 logical positions (LB, CB, CM, not fcuking AM) and takes with him a little bit of that intangible glue that squads need.
But to look at it from a tantric sex point of view I penned these lines which mostly cover my feelings about Sam leaving, even on loan:
If you need somebody, call my name
If you want someone, you can do the same
If you wanna keep something precious
Gotta lock it up and throw away the key
You want to hold on to your possession
Don't even think about me
If you love somebody
If you love someone
If you love somebody
If you love someone, set them free |  | | |
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| Field to Norwich on 10:42 - Feb 3 with 1159 views | dmm |
| Field to Norwich on 10:17 - Feb 3 by aston_hoop |
It's definitely worth asking the question. The fact they are all from the same agent, it doesn't have to be something nefarious, it could even be something good, but I'd like to know the thinking from the club. Because it's not us picking the best players the data are showing, it's us picking players up from a particular agent. |
Yep, I also asked about the agent. I've no idea how or when Nourry intends to provide answers. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 10:49 - Feb 3 with 1101 views | stevec |
It’s a sign that this club is perhaps becoming more focused and forward thinking.
I can remember in the 60’s and 70’s, good players, players you loved at the club, evolving into something that was good but being gradually replaced by something better, a footballing osmosis.
The Morgan twins, Marsh, none of it made a lot of sense at the time. It did later. |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 10:56 - Feb 3 with 1066 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Field to Norwich on 10:27 - Feb 3 by TK1 |
Totally this. There was a very long thread about how imperative it was to sign Ronnie Edwards for £4.5m along with what is no doubt among the highest wage packet at the club.
We cannot then also have Sam Field, 27 going on 28, also on one of the highest wages, sitting miserably on the bench, third in line for a holding midfield slot/third in line for LB, just because he's the right sort or the glue beneath the floorboards of the club or whatever has been said here.
To sign Edwards and Obiku - a necessary one judging by the glimpse of Burrell on crutches in this week's training vid! - something has to go. I'm surprised it's not more but you can only sell/loan out what others want and you generally can do without.
Sixteen games left, that's all. If there's another bad injury in midfield we just have to make do for those games. That's why we have a Dev squad, not to have senior players kicking around miserably. |
Agreed.
Although I'm not sure that the club is that bothered is Sam is/was miserable.
He doesn't seem the type to disrupt training or the dressing room.
I'd guess that we are just running so tight to the budget that we needed to get his wages from his new contract off of the payroll this year.
The loan isn't ideal, but I guess no club wanted to take a risk on the perm signing with the wages that Sam must be on.
Good luck to him at Norwich, but if he stays he's only holding back one of our younger players development at this stage |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 11:00 - Feb 3 with 1030 views | daveB |
| Field to Norwich on 09:15 - Feb 3 by lassel |
I mean in fairness the plan was to loan out Morgan but a good offer came in for Field and they had to pivot, especially as Field wanted to go and play.
There seems to be a general underestimation of how much they’ve spent and the need to recover funds. |
If they had sold Field I completly get that and think it's a good move. I suppose we get a loan fee and his wages paid I guess but is that going to make that much of a difference for 4 months with regards PSR/FFP
There is no mention from the club about this being with a view to a sale this summer.
This month was the one to cash in on him really, he's a good fit for clubs like Charlton and Norwich who need a bit of experience to get over the line. I don't think we'll get as many people wanting hto buy him in the summer.
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| Field to Norwich on 11:03 - Feb 3 with 978 views | Myke |
| Field to Norwich on 06:21 - Feb 3 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
He's not coming back as JS clearly doesn't rate him. Let's not forget that he started the season, but has rarely been seen since the 7-1 result. That says a lot.
As for his versatility that people keep mentioning, we have more CB cover, and he's not a very good LB as he's not left footed.
The entire team under JS has moved up a few levels, and he isn't good enough, unfortunately for him.
I think we should see this as a positive, it means we are improving. |
I rarely if ever call anyone out for making non-sensical statements, because (A) it’s all about opinions and (B) I’ve made my share. But to suggest that Field has being ‘left behind’ in terms of ability, literally makes no sense. It’s right up there ( I know you didn’t say this) with suggesting that Chair would struggle to get into the team. We do tend to get carried away with the odd good performance, and we quickly forget all the dross we have had to sit through (Portsmouth - Oxford), so to suggest JS has somehow brought us to the ‘next level’ is absurd, and to suggest that Field is inferior to anyone else ,even more so, quite disrespectful too imo.
The simple reality is, JS does not rate him, this doesn’t make him a worse player, it is just one manager’s opinion. It happens all the time. Player’s fall out off favour with a specific manager. Then they move on and do well, or the manager moves on and they get back in the team. It’s about opinions, not ability. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 11:22 - Feb 3 with 850 views | Lblock |
How we feeling / looking IF come the end of the season Norwich are above us with a contribution to that being Samuel Field and the Cardigan Club? [Post edited 3 Feb 11:22]
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| Field to Norwich on 11:33 - Feb 3 with 796 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Field to Norwich on 11:00 - Feb 3 by daveB |
If they had sold Field I completly get that and think it's a good move. I suppose we get a loan fee and his wages paid I guess but is that going to make that much of a difference for 4 months with regards PSR/FFP
There is no mention from the club about this being with a view to a sale this summer.
This month was the one to cash in on him really, he's a good fit for clubs like Charlton and Norwich who need a bit of experience to get over the line. I don't think we'll get as many people wanting hto buy him in the summer.
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Let's say for arguments sake that Sam is on £15k per week.
I think its really as simple as QPR's new players/contracts have moved our wage budget, and getting that £15k p/w off the payroll had to happen.
The club would probably preferred to sell, but its probably not a massive secret that we needed to get some players out to stop us going massively over budget | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 11:37 - Feb 3 with 772 views | JamesB1979 |
| Field to Norwich on 11:22 - Feb 3 by Lblock |
How we feeling / looking IF come the end of the season Norwich are above us with a contribution to that being Samuel Field and the Cardigan Club? [Post edited 3 Feb 11:22]
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If they are 6th and we’re 7th….then not great. Or we’re 22nd….also not great. But I think that’s unlikely. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 11:40 - Feb 3 with 757 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Field to Norwich on 11:03 - Feb 3 by Myke |
I rarely if ever call anyone out for making non-sensical statements, because (A) it’s all about opinions and (B) I’ve made my share. But to suggest that Field has being ‘left behind’ in terms of ability, literally makes no sense. It’s right up there ( I know you didn’t say this) with suggesting that Chair would struggle to get into the team. We do tend to get carried away with the odd good performance, and we quickly forget all the dross we have had to sit through (Portsmouth - Oxford), so to suggest JS has somehow brought us to the ‘next level’ is absurd, and to suggest that Field is inferior to anyone else ,even more so, quite disrespectful too imo.
The simple reality is, JS does not rate him, this doesn’t make him a worse player, it is just one manager’s opinion. It happens all the time. Player’s fall out off favour with a specific manager. Then they move on and do well, or the manager moves on and they get back in the team. It’s about opinions, not ability. |
Why then after the 7-1 defeat against Coventry was Field the only one dropped completely? Why did the club bring Hayden in immediately?
That's a fact as to what happened, its not an opinion. If he was good enough he would not be sent out on loan. It happens all the time in football, brutal, but it happens.
JS has got us playing better football than MC and challenging for playoffs. That's improvement.
How is any of what I'm saying disrespectful if it's fact? | |
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| Field to Norwich on 11:41 - Feb 3 with 748 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Field to Norwich on 09:15 - Feb 3 by lassel |
I mean in fairness the plan was to loan out Morgan but a good offer came in for Field and they had to pivot, especially as Field wanted to go and play.
There seems to be a general underestimation of how much they’ve spent and the need to recover funds. |
Unless you were in the room with the CEO can we please say;
"[del]I mean[/del] I think in fairness the plan was to loan out Morgan but a good offer came in for Field and they had to pivot, especially as Field wanted to go and play.
There seems to be a general underestimation of how much they’ve spent and the need to recover funds." | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 11:51 - Feb 3 with 696 views | oldchap |
This is a heart/head one for me. I really like Sam Field. He is under rated by some but I think he is an excellent professional, hard working and more skillful than given credit for. My frustration is that he hasn't quite unlocked his full potential. There have been flashes but I hope that a different environment may help. I think we will miss him.
My head says reality means taking decisions like this. Unfortunately other teams generally want good players, some valid points have been on that aspect that are hard to disagree with.
I see parallels with a very old favourite, Mick Leach, once converted to a midfield player he was outstanding but rarely spoken about. He started out as a target for the boo boys but worked through it. Watch the clips from the 'golden era' and see his goals and overall contribution. Sam is a different player in a different role but I think that we will look back and appreciate does how much he gave to the team.
I hope he does very well at Norwich and gets plenty of time on the pitch. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 11:54 - Feb 3 with 676 views | CateLeBonR |
| Field to Norwich on 11:22 - Feb 3 by Lblock |
How we feeling / looking IF come the end of the season Norwich are above us with a contribution to that being Samuel Field and the Cardigan Club? [Post edited 3 Feb 11:22]
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Do we think that Sam will be adding a Norfolk Jacket to his cardigan wardrobe now he's playing for Norwich? I like to think so and wish him well. I think he's been a very good player for us and a character type that we needed around previously but arguably less so now. He seems to be seen as/used as a safety net and this looks to be a good move for all concerned. |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 12:08 - Feb 3 with 590 views | wombat |
| Field to Norwich on 11:40 - Feb 3 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Why then after the 7-1 defeat against Coventry was Field the only one dropped completely? Why did the club bring Hayden in immediately?
That's a fact as to what happened, its not an opinion. If he was good enough he would not be sent out on loan. It happens all the time in football, brutal, but it happens.
JS has got us playing better football than MC and challenging for playoffs. That's improvement.
How is any of what I'm saying disrespectful if it's fact? |
on the better football comment , guessing you didnt go to
Stoke
west brom
oxford ?
or in fact any of the previous 3 or four away games before that . the footbal away from home is awful , no differnt to the football played under marti , sit back and try and keep it to nil nil or be lowing by one goal hopefully . as said before we have vastly better players this season even with inuries we rent relying on half fit frey or kolli to leave the line. yes we are on the edge of the play offs but with whats aval and they way this season is shaping up id expect nothing less . |  |
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| Field to Norwich on 12:15 - Feb 3 with 554 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Field to Norwich on 12:08 - Feb 3 by wombat |
on the better football comment , guessing you didnt go to
Stoke
west brom
oxford ?
or in fact any of the previous 3 or four away games before that . the footbal away from home is awful , no differnt to the football played under marti , sit back and try and keep it to nil nil or be lowing by one goal hopefully . as said before we have vastly better players this season even with inuries we rent relying on half fit frey or kolli to leave the line. yes we are on the edge of the play offs but with whats aval and they way this season is shaping up id expect nothing less . |
Yes, I agree. Injuries notwithstanding, we should be targeting the play-offs; if we'd beaten Wrexham, we'd be sixth.
I don't understand why people keep saying next year is the one. Top-class sports people and teams are ruthless; if there's an opportunity, they take advantage of it. This season is a huge opportunity with two of the relegated teams below par and the other one not guaranteed automatic promotion. Hull, with a transfer embargo, are third!
Yes, we could do well next season but we must try and get in the play-offs, where anything goes. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 12:16 - Feb 3 with 542 views | JamesB1979 |
| Field to Norwich on 12:08 - Feb 3 by wombat |
on the better football comment , guessing you didnt go to
Stoke
west brom
oxford ?
or in fact any of the previous 3 or four away games before that . the footbal away from home is awful , no differnt to the football played under marti , sit back and try and keep it to nil nil or be lowing by one goal hopefully . as said before we have vastly better players this season even with inuries we rent relying on half fit frey or kolli to leave the line. yes we are on the edge of the play offs but with whats aval and they way this season is shaping up id expect nothing less . |
Well yes but we are playing better at home. So, we’re 50% there! We have to find a solution to the away form / performances. I hope that the recent setup vs Coventry will work away from home. Because what became clear is that the 2 up front with Kone slightly back does not work away from home. Vale is going to be key for me. I really hope he continues his form from Saturday into Charlton. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 12:19 - Feb 3 with 526 views | kensalriser |
| Field to Norwich on 11:37 - Feb 3 by JamesB1979 |
If they are 6th and we’re 7th….then not great. Or we’re 22nd….also not great. But I think that’s unlikely. |
Yeah. Immaterial if both clubs are still in the Championship next season, which they will be.
It would take something for Norwich to close the the 10 point gap, though. They are much improved, but our form would also have to dip sharply for that to happen. |  |
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| Field to Norwich on 12:22 - Feb 3 with 508 views | TheChef |
| Field to Norwich on 09:35 - Feb 3 by dmm |
It's good to see Nourry making this effort in his supporter communications, even if the article gives us little new info.
I thought the bit on signing Australians was rather thin: "We continue to believe strongly in the quality of the athletic and physical development that young Australian footballers receive between the ages of 10 and 16, especially in key population centres like Perth, Sydney and Melbourne." It suggests Nourry is aware there's concern about this focus on recruitment from Perth Glory. I've submitted a question about this via the 'Business & strategy Q&A' form and hope I get a better answer than that. |
"Perth, Sydney and Melbourne."
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