| Has the game gone? 13:25 - Mar 3 with 6885 views | KensalT |
Ruud's got a point. Even if he did play for that mob on Fulham Broadway.
The game is in danger of eating itself
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| Has the game gone? on 16:53 - Mar 3 with 1947 views | DannyPaddox |
I posted last season or even the season before the aesthetics of the game are changing and the officiating must take some blame. How fking long does it take to take a set-piece and the pedantic-arse refereeing with the voices in their heads via the ear-pieces making them fuss over every corner and free-kick like some kind of OCD window-dresser is a major cause. Any momentum and excitement is stymied and the game is now a succession of set-pieces. Add to this the non-sensical tinkering of just having one player taking a kick-off and you wonder what are the rule-makers, the inept guardians, of the game up to. I agree with dmm that tactics and styles of the game evolve, revolve, and come and go, but the current discontent with the game is not being helped by the officials. Angry of Ongar! |  | | |
| Has the game gone? on 16:57 - Mar 3 with 1913 views | Mick_S |
| Has the game gone? on 16:53 - Mar 3 by DannyPaddox |
I posted last season or even the season before the aesthetics of the game are changing and the officiating must take some blame. How fking long does it take to take a set-piece and the pedantic-arse refereeing with the voices in their heads via the ear-pieces making them fuss over every corner and free-kick like some kind of OCD window-dresser is a major cause. Any momentum and excitement is stymied and the game is now a succession of set-pieces. Add to this the non-sensical tinkering of just having one player taking a kick-off and you wonder what are the rule-makers, the inept guardians, of the game up to. I agree with dmm that tactics and styles of the game evolve, revolve, and come and go, but the current discontent with the game is not being helped by the officials. Angry of Ongar! |
Bet Rudd isn’t really stopping watching. Just a guess. |  |
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| Has the game gone? on 17:24 - Mar 3 with 1837 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Has the game gone? on 16:15 - Mar 3 by stevec |
He is 100% right but it’s up to the rule makers to bring in changes to negate the issues.
We’ve been here before, I could have murdered Alan Hansen & Mark Lawrenson, get 1-0 up then strangle the life out the game with back passes to the keeper to pick up. For the younger ones amongst LFW, this is why you no longer have to witness it, the rule makers outlawed keepers from picking up back passes.
The corners and long throw issues could be eradicated if they ban the attacking side from being in the 6 yard box until the set piece is taken.
They should also revert back to the old rule whereby goal kicks have to clear the 18 yard box. It was meant to spread the game out but it hasn’t worked, it’s just encouraged the high press and no surprise that bigger stronger players have become the order of the day. |
The back pass rule change was the best thing that happened to the game. Like you watching back passes to Grobelar in GK was like watching paint dry.
As for the long throws etc. It's just hone around in a circle, long ball, throwns in etc are back in vogue. Then someone will work out that rather than CB that can't tackle they'll decide to have CBs that can tackle and head. Groundbreaking! | |
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| Has the game gone? on 17:33 - Mar 3 with 1799 views | Superhoop83 |
Funny timing as I watched some Sky highlights of the Premier League goals at the weekend and I've never seen so many crap and/or deflected goals/own goals. The only bit of real quality was an amazing save from Jordan Pickford. |  |
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| Has the game gone? on 18:01 - Mar 3 with 1737 views | TwoHalves |
| Has the game gone? on 17:24 - Mar 3 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
The back pass rule change was the best thing that happened to the game. Like you watching back passes to Grobelar in GK was like watching paint dry.
As for the long throws etc. It's just hone around in a circle, long ball, throwns in etc are back in vogue. Then someone will work out that rather than CB that can't tackle they'll decide to have CBs that can tackle and head. Groundbreaking! |
Might not even need to be able to head the ball at all in the future. It’s become increasingly clear that successive generations of footballers are succumbing to dementia so I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s banned at some point. How would that impact the game, I wonder? Might have to consult AI! | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 19:00 - Mar 3 with 1630 views | QPROslo |
| Has the game gone? on 18:01 - Mar 3 by TwoHalves |
Might not even need to be able to head the ball at all in the future. It’s become increasingly clear that successive generations of footballers are succumbing to dementia so I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s banned at some point. How would that impact the game, I wonder? Might have to consult AI! |
Would be great. Our mighty midgets will be worth billions. | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 19:54 - Mar 3 with 1554 views | paulparker |
He is bang on
Footballs so far gone the other way it’s just horrible to watch
There’s cheating is on a different level now and it’s embarrassing actually watching the product
every player is a robot who is programmed to run and cheat
Back in the day you had a mix of hardmen , silky mavericks , wingers who actually crossed the ball
Two strikers up top and managers who came up through the leagues to the top level
The grounds and even the goal nets were different
I mean When was the last time you saw a chipped goal ?
I found myself now more addicted to watching the big match revisited than anything on show in the English game anymore |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Has the game gone? on 22:16 - Mar 3 with 1381 views | Boston |
| Has the game gone? on 16:49 - Mar 3 by qpr_1968 |
who remembers the watney cup where there were no offsides. |
..and barrels for goal posts. | |
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| Has the game gone? on 22:26 - Mar 3 with 1366 views | Boston |
| Has the game gone? on 15:48 - Mar 3 by KensalT |
It's ironic that the game is becoming popular with the Yanks just as it's becoming more about muscle and athleticism and less about imagination and creativity.
Funny that! |
Actually, the game has always been popular in the US, until High School level. From that point on, the 'big four' sports syphoned off most of the good athletes because there was nowhere near the money in football / soccer as the competition. Then, the English League sold its soul to the devil... | |
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| Has the game gone? on 22:27 - Mar 3 with 1366 views | loneranger1 |
| Has the game gone? on 15:14 - Mar 3 by joe90 |
It's been sh*t for a long time and I think the sports media has contributed massively to laying the ground work for the enshittification of football that we're seeing now.
I got into a discussion with a Man Utd fan about watching games live vs watching on the telly. Needless to say, but I will anyway, he wasn't from Manchester and did not visit the 'Theatre of Dreams' to watch his beloved Utd. He is what I think the kids call a 'plastic fan'. Anyway, he was arguing that he got a better view and appreciation of the game at home than I did in the ground. What this highlighted to me was a divergence of opinion of how the game should be viewed. For him it was a soulless, analytical pursuit. There was no joy in the spectacle, the athleticism, competition, the atmosphere of the ground, basically everything human and enjoyable about the game. For him cameras and replays removed objectivity and that was a good thing. I think what is becoming apparent is that winning isn't all that matters for true fans of the 'sport'. If winning means more VAR, astronomical transfer fee's, needing a PHD in accountancy to understand three year spending cycles to give you an indication of how you'll get on over the next few seasons, perhaps winning isn't all it's cracked up to be? Believing that Skysports or the Premier League care about fans is like believing Highways England care about how drivers feel on smart motorways. |
Quality post, really well put and couldn't agree more. | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 22:39 - Mar 3 with 1340 views | Boston |
| Has the game gone? on 15:14 - Mar 3 by joe90 |
It's been sh*t for a long time and I think the sports media has contributed massively to laying the ground work for the enshittification of football that we're seeing now.
I got into a discussion with a Man Utd fan about watching games live vs watching on the telly. Needless to say, but I will anyway, he wasn't from Manchester and did not visit the 'Theatre of Dreams' to watch his beloved Utd. He is what I think the kids call a 'plastic fan'. Anyway, he was arguing that he got a better view and appreciation of the game at home than I did in the ground. What this highlighted to me was a divergence of opinion of how the game should be viewed. For him it was a soulless, analytical pursuit. There was no joy in the spectacle, the athleticism, competition, the atmosphere of the ground, basically everything human and enjoyable about the game. For him cameras and replays removed objectivity and that was a good thing. I think what is becoming apparent is that winning isn't all that matters for true fans of the 'sport'. If winning means more VAR, astronomical transfer fee's, needing a PHD in accountancy to understand three year spending cycles to give you an indication of how you'll get on over the next few seasons, perhaps winning isn't all it's cracked up to be? Believing that Skysports or the Premier League care about fans is like believing Highways England care about how drivers feel on smart motorways. |
For a few decades now, I've called them the 'default' fans. Their failure to actually physically support a club leaves them to default to the Man U's, Liverpool's and Chelsea's of this world. Not that there aren't true followers of these teams, I know many, unfortunately they are becoming a smaller and smaller minority and are as p.o.'d as anyone else who has to endure the antiseptic atmosphere generated by the influencer generation. | |
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| Has the game gone? on 22:40 - Mar 3 with 1333 views | Boston |
| Has the game gone? on 16:57 - Mar 3 by Mick_S |
Bet Rudd isn’t really stopping watching. Just a guess. |
Is that a gullit feeling? [Post edited 3 Mar 22:43]
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| Has the game gone? on 23:00 - Mar 3 with 1294 views | VancouverHoop |
| Has the game gone? on 13:40 - Mar 3 by PlanetHonneywood |
He isn't saying anything that we've either not said among our friends or been saying on here for years!
I only follow the Rangers, really don't know much of what's going on elsewhere and if I do watch any other game, I rarely last a half.
Said it before, say it again: if Rangers folded or, became a Premiership whore club, I could see myself not bothering at all. It's actually boring from Championship level up! |
I'm pretty much the same. I haven't watched a Premier League match for several seasons. I take in the highlights of the National League — especially as Boreham Wood are in with a shout this year, and track Hitchin Town's progress in the Southern League. But that's about it. I'm actually more excited about the start of the Vancouver Whitecaps season right now than I am the fag-end of the Championship. It's really very sad. | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 08:05 - Mar 4 with 1136 views | SK_hoops |
| Has the game gone? on 15:02 - Mar 3 by charmr |
Football cyclical and sheep like.
I know younger supporters who haven’t seen sexton and Venables teams or Alec Stocks get tired of hearing about it some of us are just so lucky and privileged to have seen that football and those footballers live. [Post edited 3 Mar 15:03]
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At least we had Taarabt, Eze and Austin etc... Just about old enough to remember Les Ferdinand too. | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 09:55 - Mar 4 with 1023 views | Northernr |
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| Has the game gone? on 10:06 - Mar 4 with 991 views | KensalT |
| Has the game gone? on 09:55 - Mar 4 by Northernr |
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We're morphing into rugby.
Kind of echoes what I said in my earlier post about data analysis working best in stop-start sports and the effects being seen in football deadball situations becoming increasingly funky.
Who's going to be football's first Johnny Wilkinson!? | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 10:09 - Mar 4 with 978 views | Northernr |
| Has the game gone? on 10:06 - Mar 4 by KensalT |
We're morphing into rugby.
Kind of echoes what I said in my earlier post about data analysis working best in stop-start sports and the effects being seen in football deadball situations becoming increasingly funky.
Who's going to be football's first Johnny Wilkinson!? |
Scott Twine? | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 11:49 - Mar 4 with 865 views | DannyPaddox |
Aaaaand another thing. Shirt-pulling. There has always been a bit of this in the game but if the ref saw any he’d blow pronto for a free kick which just about eradicated it. Then over the past few seasons the refs stopped blowing for it unless the shirt is practically over a player’s head. And the increase in shirt pulling has led to an increase in man-handling in general to the point that the 6-yard box during a corner now resembles a game of twister. Why all of a sudden the leniency towards shirt-pulling? I find this mystifying. It’s cheating plain and simple and no different to hand-ball. | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 12:54 - Mar 4 with 783 views | Mick_S |
| Has the game gone? on 09:55 - Mar 4 by Northernr |
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That’s what 7 year old kids do in the playground. I’m convinced someone is having a bit of a laugh. | |
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| Has the game gone? on 13:24 - Mar 4 with 750 views | Northernr |
| Has the game gone? on 11:49 - Mar 4 by DannyPaddox |
Aaaaand another thing. Shirt-pulling. There has always been a bit of this in the game but if the ref saw any he’d blow pronto for a free kick which just about eradicated it. Then over the past few seasons the refs stopped blowing for it unless the shirt is practically over a player’s head. And the increase in shirt pulling has led to an increase in man-handling in general to the point that the 6-yard box during a corner now resembles a game of twister. Why all of a sudden the leniency towards shirt-pulling? I find this mystifying. It’s cheating plain and simple and no different to hand-ball. |
Somebody somewhere whose brain consists of liquified human sht basically decided a couple of years ago that pulling/pushing/blocking in the penalty area is fine "as long as it's mutual" and the referee shall warn the players of this before the kick is taken. And lo, we have the situation we have now, where every corner takes 3 minutes to take while the referee says "stop doing that" and then looks like a rugby union scrum when it's delivered as he lets them do exactly that. | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 14:05 - Mar 4 with 718 views | KensalT |
| Has the game gone? on 13:24 - Mar 4 by Northernr |
Somebody somewhere whose brain consists of liquified human sht basically decided a couple of years ago that pulling/pushing/blocking in the penalty area is fine "as long as it's mutual" and the referee shall warn the players of this before the kick is taken. And lo, we have the situation we have now, where every corner takes 3 minutes to take while the referee says "stop doing that" and then looks like a rugby union scrum when it's delivered as he lets them do exactly that. |
Another rugby comparison.
Much more of this and the TV companies might start wondering if they've been throwing their millions at the wrong sport all these years. | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 14:07 - Mar 4 with 710 views | Northernr |
| Has the game gone? on 14:05 - Mar 4 by KensalT |
Another rugby comparison.
Much more of this and the TV companies might start wondering if they've been throwing their millions at the wrong sport all these years. |
Good timing with the Super League TV contract up at the end of the year. | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 14:45 - Mar 4 with 618 views | KensalT |
| Has the game gone? on 14:07 - Mar 4 by Northernr |
Good timing with the Super League TV contract up at the end of the year. |
Will you be migrating to Line-out for Words?
(And yes I know it's a Union term!) | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 17:17 - Mar 4 with 531 views | VancouverHoop |
| Has the game gone? on 16:53 - Mar 3 by DannyPaddox |
I posted last season or even the season before the aesthetics of the game are changing and the officiating must take some blame. How fking long does it take to take a set-piece and the pedantic-arse refereeing with the voices in their heads via the ear-pieces making them fuss over every corner and free-kick like some kind of OCD window-dresser is a major cause. Any momentum and excitement is stymied and the game is now a succession of set-pieces. Add to this the non-sensical tinkering of just having one player taking a kick-off and you wonder what are the rule-makers, the inept guardians, of the game up to. I agree with dmm that tactics and styles of the game evolve, revolve, and come and go, but the current discontent with the game is not being helped by the officials. Angry of Ongar! |
You're not wrong.
I've long believed that, broadly speaking, there are two kinds of football fan. Those who desire "perfection": ie. the most skilled players playing on a pristine pitch, with rules that are constantly being tweaked to achieve an impossible degree of accuracy. You might, kindly, call them and their supporters, "Classicists."
The other kind of fan is happy to watch twenty-two ordinary-ish blokes doing their darndest to win a match on a muddy cow-patch in the pissing rain. They, the officials, and both sets fans love the game and accept occasional bad tackles and bizarre calls, because everyone involved is human, and human beings make mistakes. Perfection isn't a possibility. Let's just get on with the effing match! You might call them "Romantics," and I'm content to be one of them. | | | |
| Has the game gone? on 17:19 - Mar 4 with 531 views | TheChef |
| Has the game gone? on 13:24 - Mar 4 by Northernr |
Somebody somewhere whose brain consists of liquified human sht basically decided a couple of years ago that pulling/pushing/blocking in the penalty area is fine "as long as it's mutual" and the referee shall warn the players of this before the kick is taken. And lo, we have the situation we have now, where every corner takes 3 minutes to take while the referee says "stop doing that" and then looks like a rugby union scrum when it's delivered as he lets them do exactly that. |
The Everton-Manure game the other week was more wrestling than football. |  |
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