| Super Sunday – Preview on 17:37 - Mar 6 with 3623 views | terryb |
Thanks Clive for a really good introduction, but you've left me sat here bewildered. I didn't think that I knew anyone that had been to Riley's Snooker Hall. Or anyone that had wanted to go there!
I'm sure that we must have had other games in the 4.00pm/4.30pm Sunday slot, but I certainly remember getting our first home win of the season in October 2011. A win on Sunday would possibly be as big a surprise to the world as that day was. Mind you, we might need 'boro to be reduced to nine men as well! |  | |  |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 18:15 - Mar 6 with 3530 views | Dorse |
I am usually pretty positive before a match but, this week, I have the uneasy feeling of someone who has just eaten a prune and cabbage vindaloo with 8 pints of Guinees and is now stuck in traffic. |  |
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| Super Sunday – Preview on 23:36 - Mar 6 with 2967 views | JamesB1979 |
Blimey mate, you’re more depressed about us than me! Still think for us it all went wrong from those mad 5 minutes against Wrexham. [Post edited 7 Mar 6:41]
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| Super Sunday – Preview on 07:25 - Mar 7 with 2726 views | dmm |
A good summery about much of what's wrong with football at the moment, Clive. As I said in the thread this week, it's football capitalism. |  | | |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 08:43 - Mar 7 with 2639 views | stevec |
Now you tell me that, even in the land of everlasting mediocrity, both Bristol City and Preston have been in the playoffs, that’s a low blow at a time like this.
As for VAR, I must have been asleep, but if that is implemented in the Championship I’m going to be having a serious think about renewing the season ticket.
What a time to be alive. |  | | |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 10:45 - Mar 7 with 2451 views | Burnleyhoop |
Watching football now bores the tits off me for most part. Endless pointless passing, shithousing, feigning injury, awful refereeing with VAR the cherry on top.
Watching QPR and being emotionally invested just amplifies the pain. Unless things change, for the better, football may go the way our society seems to be heading.
Depressing. | | | |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 11:56 - Mar 7 with 2335 views | thehat |
Thanks Clive - Great analysis of modern football. I very rarely watch The Premier League anymore. When not at W12 I enjoy watching my local non league side (step 4) who are only 300 yards from my house. The quality of non league has improved dramatically over the past decade.
BTW - I have a good feeling for tomorrow - No pressure on us expected lose etc etc.... | | | |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 14:36 - Mar 7 with 2164 views | Andybrat |
Thanks Clive, re the match, the change of day means I’m going to miss another defeat. I was at Southampton so needing some positivity.
Re the game as a whole, you are right about so many things. Still those magic moments make it worthwhile, could do with one coming along. I am in a minority and think the extended playoffs is yes a money spinner but does give us mere mortals a potential chance against the paratroopers. | | | |
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| Super Sunday – Preview on 15:16 - Mar 7 with 2125 views | mart_Goblin |
Great stuff Clive .
Agree with so much of what you say about the modern game and I do wonder when the breaking point will be . I know some on here don’t watch much football for many reasons but it’s going to take some huge swing of discontent from the feasting masses for the people in charge to take any notice .
I would also add the constant delays/ nonsense at every corner taken now as one of the major things that drive me to despair as well of course with the many mentioned by Clive .
But alluding to what Andybrat says above , I still crave those special moments , Jimmy and Kieran Morgan v Birmingham for example . We lost but that Kone goal at West Ham? Memeories made .
Far too few of them in the last decade or so.
Or even when watching football on tv, which i do a fair bit . For the most part , it’s utter gash, but as a fan I still really enjoy moments like that tremendous late winner for 10 man Newcastle in midweek for example.
The problem is they are few and far between now too. It’s stodged up by players doing anything now to con an official to gain the smallest advantage in any game instead of actually doing something talented with the bloody football ( take Paul Smyth for the last 18 months as maybe an unfair example but you take my point ). Add Var, incompetent officials , head coaches sucking the life out of talent and turning them Into robots (Grealish for example ) , clubs charging extortionate prices to watch basically 90 mins of the Royal Rumble in each goal mouth.
I feel like an old git moaning about all our yesterdays .
But my son has clocked out of football this season too . Partly because QPR have once again drove him to despair . But also because modern football is now just a bit of a chore . |  | | |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 16:59 - Mar 7 with 1999 views | BrianMcCarthy |
"We asked the club to confirm they’d voted in favour of it and they told us they wouldn’t be disclosing how they’d voted. So, not only are QPR’s season ticket holders and members not asked what they think, but they’re also not allowed to know what our club thinks either."
Shameful and spineless way to run our club. |  |
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| Super Sunday – Preview on 07:24 - Mar 8 with 1520 views | 1JD |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 16:59 - Mar 7 by BrianMcCarthy |
"We asked the club to confirm they’d voted in favour of it and they told us they wouldn’t be disclosing how they’d voted. So, not only are QPR’s season ticket holders and members not asked what they think, but they’re also not allowed to know what our club thinks either."
Shameful and spineless way to run our club. |
Disgraceful from the club.
As has become the norm under this leadership - us fans (the clubs customers) treated with utter contempt. | | | |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 09:07 - Mar 8 with 1366 views | loneranger1 |
Brilliant preview as ever, Clive - and it all chimed with me.
I'm in the 'young' group at LFW, probably about your age (40 this year) and have found myself rapidly falling out of love with football over the past couple of years. Like you, used to watch any game going, but never watch 90 mins untless it's Rangers, and really pick and choose even the highlights I watch now. I can't imagine actually going to a game where VAR is in use and - sounds like I might have to find out at HQ in the next year or two. Seeing those stats about the amount of time the ball is out of play with Arsenal, on course to win the league, brings home just how little I feel I'm missing out by not watching any full games.
Find myself increasingly like my dad - "Why don't they just leave it alone?!" I know you say you don't like change, but I think that's a human thing, and increasingly true the older we get - but the fact is, there has been so much change to domestic football over the past 10/15 years, and what good has it actually done the game?
Of course, Rangers are giving us plenty to be unhappy about and make us grumpy. It's been done so many times, but I've had enough of this 'performance team' and the contempt for fans shown by lack of/nature of communication. Am teacher training this year, which is quite intense, and trying to play most weekends as well, I don't get down to games as often as I'd like and really have to pick and choose when I go, not there today.... Hope they pull a decent performance out of somewhere today for everyone that's going.
Also, hat tip to QPR Hibs - I've really enjoyed your predictions this season, today's had me chuckling! | | | |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 23:37 - Mar 8 with 712 views | Northernr |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 07:24 - Mar 8 by 1JD |
Disgraceful from the club.
As has become the norm under this leadership - us fans (the clubs customers) treated with utter contempt. |
One of the themes of the fan site meetings has been Christian saying we throw brickbats at them unfairly without giving them a say (I refute this entirely, of course), but he keeps saying "why don't you just ask".
So, we asked. |  | | |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 00:05 - Mar 9 with 671 views | Rangersw12 |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 23:37 - Mar 8 by Northernr |
One of the themes of the fan site meetings has been Christian saying we throw brickbats at them unfairly without giving them a say (I refute this entirely, of course), but he keeps saying "why don't you just ask".
So, we asked. |
Out of interest how often are these fan meetings and is there any minutes taken ? | | | |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 00:08 - Mar 9 with 665 views | Northernr |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 00:05 - Mar 9 by Rangersw12 |
Out of interest how often are these fan meetings and is there any minutes taken ? |
What few meetings still take place we still publish the minutes on here mate. These were the last set, I wasn't at this but Andy went on our behalf and wrote these up.
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/ | | | |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 12:57 - Mar 9 with 346 views | E17hoop |
I wandered into ER yesterday expecting us to get beaten at least 3-0. I saw the team, saw the depth (!) on the bench and knew we'd be losing. Was it enjoyable? Not really, but spending time with my younger son is always good, so I won't bemoan that.
The frustration is that, as I mentioned in the 7/8 playoff thread, we're moving to a different place with football now. It's entertainment, not sport. It's social media output, the LOLz and bantz.
It's hot takes, ref explainers, VAR breakdowns and interactive player ratings.
Outrage cycles that last 48 hours and then reset.
Managers say nothing in press conferences, which get clipped and posted as if they meant something.
Ninety minutes of preamble about nothing before 15th play 4th.
Goals that only exist as YouTube Shorts, taken in as vertical video.
Tunnel cams – only when we win you notice.
Behind-the-scenes access to nothing.
Stats that can prove whatever point you already had.
None of it is about the football. All of it is the product.
You're spot on Clive - decisions are being made by a small number of people for financial reasons, with no meaningful consultation. None of it is designed for the person who got on the tube yesterday, paid to get in, and watched us lose 4-0. We're the atmosphere, not the customer.
The bit I can't shake is that going with my son was the point of it. The result was bad; the football was grim, but that part was fine. That's the thing they can't package and sell, and probably the only reason most of us are still showing up. |  |
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| Super Sunday – Preview on 13:52 - Mar 9 with 302 views | TheChef |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 12:57 - Mar 9 by E17hoop |
I wandered into ER yesterday expecting us to get beaten at least 3-0. I saw the team, saw the depth (!) on the bench and knew we'd be losing. Was it enjoyable? Not really, but spending time with my younger son is always good, so I won't bemoan that.
The frustration is that, as I mentioned in the 7/8 playoff thread, we're moving to a different place with football now. It's entertainment, not sport. It's social media output, the LOLz and bantz.
It's hot takes, ref explainers, VAR breakdowns and interactive player ratings.
Outrage cycles that last 48 hours and then reset.
Managers say nothing in press conferences, which get clipped and posted as if they meant something.
Ninety minutes of preamble about nothing before 15th play 4th.
Goals that only exist as YouTube Shorts, taken in as vertical video.
Tunnel cams – only when we win you notice.
Behind-the-scenes access to nothing.
Stats that can prove whatever point you already had.
None of it is about the football. All of it is the product.
You're spot on Clive - decisions are being made by a small number of people for financial reasons, with no meaningful consultation. None of it is designed for the person who got on the tube yesterday, paid to get in, and watched us lose 4-0. We're the atmosphere, not the customer.
The bit I can't shake is that going with my son was the point of it. The result was bad; the football was grim, but that part was fine. That's the thing they can't package and sell, and probably the only reason most of us are still showing up. |
I'm going with our youngest son to Leicester - like you say, quality time, a day out together, a road trip. Just a shame about the football match itself; and if we don't avoid defeat at Birmingham I fear the away end will be especially toxic. Not really sure I want to expose a ten year old to that... |  |
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| Super Sunday – Preview on 14:13 - Mar 9 with 275 views | E17hoop |
| Super Sunday – Preview on 13:52 - Mar 9 by TheChef |
I'm going with our youngest son to Leicester - like you say, quality time, a day out together, a road trip. Just a shame about the football match itself; and if we don't avoid defeat at Birmingham I fear the away end will be especially toxic. Not really sure I want to expose a ten year old to that... |
He's schlepping up to Birmingham on Wednesday, and we're both going to Leicester on Saturday. We'll have fun in the pub, and on the way back, both dates ruined by the appearance of a QPR loss midway through the day.
That's the deal isn't it. You build a good day around it and then spend the rest of it processing a defeat. At least at 25 he knows what he's signed up for - your son could so easily lose interest if he doesn't experience some positivity and relies on the TV version of QPR. [Post edited 9 Mar 14:19]
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| Super Sunday – Preview on 16:33 - Mar 9 with 153 views | OldPedro |
I'm off to Leicester on Saturday with my son and daughter - it's her birthday and that's what she wants to do. No doubt we will have a good day (apart from the football part). |  |
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