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Excellent discussions on here so I won't just repeat.
But one morsel I picked out from Nourry's interview: I think at one point he referred to QPR as a "pirate ship?" I wonder what he meant by that - maybe just being humorous?
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 19:33 - Jun 23 by loftus77
Excellent discussions on here so I won't just repeat.
But one morsel I picked out from Nourry's interview: I think at one point he referred to QPR as a "pirate ship?" I wonder what he meant by that - maybe just being humorous?
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Maybe we have our eyes on Johnny Depp as our deep lying centre mid !!!
Either that or he has just smoked something rather strange !!!
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 17:52 - Jun 23 by Hunterhoop
Exactly.
And, to repeat it, I want QPR to succeed. I know you do. We want Nourry to be a success. But, as E17 puts much more eloquently than me, there has to be a vision, objectives, and milestones, and they should be communicated so we can measure performance against them and there can be accountability. Especially when the leadership has Nourry’s complete lack of experience in football or in a leadership role.
I know the internal objective last season was top half. I wouldn't say it was a hard target and sung from the rooftops, but it was the expectation. This season I understand it’s to compete for the play offs. This is the year.
It’s very dangerous this narrative creeping in that “actually league position isn’t important and we’re miles off the being promotion ready”. It is lowering expectations and potentially lowers performance at precisely the moment there is absolutely no justification for doing so! It is only being done for accountability avoidance reasons. That concerns me. It should concern all fans.
Let’s have some ambition. Let’s hold ourselves to account, and let’s give it a right good go. It’ll be 12 seasons this coming season. Enough with the jam tomorrow. The conditions and expenditure of the last two seasons mean this is the one to move forward materially.
Contrary to popular belief, I think this team should be top 10 and could be top 8. I really do. I think Nourry has assembled an improved squad, I love our forwards, we need a goalkeeper and central midfielder, ideally both with experience at the peak of their career. And we should be selling someone inside 12 months for big money or the expenditure has failed if you’re trying to run a player trading strategy.
If we finish top 8 and deliver a big sale, then great stuff. Well played, sir! If we’re not top half and don’t, then, thanks, but let’s give someone else a go running the club. We cannot continue as a serious professional outfit without accountability.
In the meantime, if the leadership lie and gaslight fans, it should be called out. Of course, it should. It’s irresponsible to suggest otherwise. Solution: don’t lie and gaslight.
"there has to be a vision, objectives, and milestones, and they should be communicated so we can measure performance against them and there can be accountability"
Where in football does this exist? I would imagine Nourry is being held to account against all those measures. Just not by you in any way that matters!
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 23:49 - Jun 23 with 2663 views
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 19:49 - Jun 23 by loftupper
"there has to be a vision, objectives, and milestones, and they should be communicated so we can measure performance against them and there can be accountability"
Where in football does this exist? I would imagine Nourry is being held to account against all those measures. Just not by you in any way that matters!
Lots of clubs communicate their objectives for the season. We’ve done so in the past. Clubs do it through interviews with players and managers quite often.
And if you don’t want to do so, you talk longer term, but there is a still a timeframe on it. Loads of clubs do it. It’s called ambition.
Our fanbase needs to stop accepting a lack of accountability and embracing mediocrity. We were not always like this.
We can be very good this season. Let’s give it a go.
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 23:57 - Jun 23 with 2634 views
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 23:49 - Jun 23 by Hunterhoop
Lots of clubs communicate their objectives for the season. We’ve done so in the past. Clubs do it through interviews with players and managers quite often.
And if you don’t want to do so, you talk longer term, but there is a still a timeframe on it. Loads of clubs do it. It’s called ambition.
Our fanbase needs to stop accepting a lack of accountability and embracing mediocrity. We were not always like this.
We can be very good this season. Let’s give it a go.
So what do you want him to state publicly is the ambition?
And how do you think a public pronouncement will help QPR achieve those aims?
Or do you just want to flush Nourry out with a stated ambition so you can beat him over the head if he fails short?
As others have said, he has probably had that conversation with the board.
It’s starting to sound a bit obsessive now…
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 23:57 - Jun 23 by Stainrod
So what do you want him to state publicly is the ambition?
And how do you think a public pronouncement will help QPR achieve those aims?
Or do you just want to flush Nourry out with a stated ambition so you can beat him over the head if he fails short?
As others have said, he has probably had that conversation with the board.
It’s starting to sound a bit obsessive now…
Top 10. Achieve it or walk. He was unqualified to begin with. He’d have spent over £25m. He’d have had 3 full seasons as CEO, with a prior full year auditing and understanding the club, and he binned off a manager doing a decent job for his own man. It’s sufficient.
If he surpasses that, superb. Well done, Sir! (As I have said).
But my point is we need to kybosh this nonsense that league position doesn’t matter and progression cannot be measured.
And it is an obsession, but QPR is an obsession and I hate bullsh*tters. You might not have been on here back then, but I was a staunch defender of Ferdinand in the early years.
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 00:11 - Jun 24 with 2595 views
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 00:02 - Jun 24 by Hunterhoop
Top 10. Achieve it or walk. He was unqualified to begin with. He’d have spent over £25m. He’d have had 3 full seasons as CEO, with a prior full year auditing and understanding the club, and he binned off a manager doing a decent job for his own man. It’s sufficient.
If he surpasses that, superb. Well done, Sir! (As I have said).
But my point is we need to kybosh this nonsense that league position doesn’t matter and progression cannot be measured.
And it is an obsession, but QPR is an obsession and I hate bullsh*tters. You might not have been on here back then, but I was a staunch defender of Ferdinand in the early years.
Fair points.
But my main concern is that I don't trust him, and - based on his public declarations - I'm amazed that the owners do, and I'm amazed that any supporter does.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 23:49 - Jun 23 by Hunterhoop
Lots of clubs communicate their objectives for the season. We’ve done so in the past. Clubs do it through interviews with players and managers quite often.
And if you don’t want to do so, you talk longer term, but there is a still a timeframe on it. Loads of clubs do it. It’s called ambition.
Our fanbase needs to stop accepting a lack of accountability and embracing mediocrity. We were not always like this.
We can be very good this season. Let’s give it a go.
A very interesting debate. I agree we have a decent squad this coming season already with the usual caveat of keeping the big players fit for the majority of the season. I don’t share the view that we need to replace Walsh or Clive’s assertion that failing to do so, implies a lack of ambition. Central midfield remains an issue unless Varane does a ‘Madsen’ and turns his performances (and his body) around next season. We know that ‘on our day’ we are a match for anyone. But we also know that drop that intensity even by ten percent and we struggle to beat bad teams (SW, Oxford (twice) WBA and Charlton) and get hockeyed by good teams (Ipswich (twice) Middlesbrough (twice) Southampton, Coventry etc etc). For me this is attitudinal and unless we resolve this ‘can’t be arsed’ approach to too many games we will be a mid-table team at best . We know in the first five minutes which QPR version will turn up. The one that is ‘up for it’ or the ‘can’t be arsed’ version. The remarkable thing for me is that either attitude permeates through the ENTIRE team.If one is up for it they all are, if one can’t bear arsed, none can be. I am not convinced that Stephan is strong enough to stamp this out. Warnock wouldn’t and didn’t tolerate it (apart from Taarabt on occasion and he was a special case) but not sure about JS. But if we are serious about a play-off tilt, we need to be bang at it for EVERY game.
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 18:03 - Jun 23 by KensalT
I'm not being funny Hunter but I don't see how you can agree with the very good post by oldchap about all the problems we still have on the pitch and then say we could be top 8.
I think we are well short of that at the moment.
I think we are slowly moving in the right direction and could/should have finished higher up the table last season, but I will be very pleasantly surprised if we finish top ten next season
Yes as mentioned we still need a couple of key signings this summer - but come on this is the Championship, everyone beats everyone. I wouldn't say the top 8 is impossible. We're not talking about 1990s Serie A here.
As Hunter said, we need a bit of AMBISHUN.
Anyway let's see what the squad looks like come 1st September and go from there.
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 00:23 - Jun 24 by Myke
A very interesting debate. I agree we have a decent squad this coming season already with the usual caveat of keeping the big players fit for the majority of the season. I don’t share the view that we need to replace Walsh or Clive’s assertion that failing to do so, implies a lack of ambition. Central midfield remains an issue unless Varane does a ‘Madsen’ and turns his performances (and his body) around next season. We know that ‘on our day’ we are a match for anyone. But we also know that drop that intensity even by ten percent and we struggle to beat bad teams (SW, Oxford (twice) WBA and Charlton) and get hockeyed by good teams (Ipswich (twice) Middlesbrough (twice) Southampton, Coventry etc etc). For me this is attitudinal and unless we resolve this ‘can’t be arsed’ approach to too many games we will be a mid-table team at best . We know in the first five minutes which QPR version will turn up. The one that is ‘up for it’ or the ‘can’t be arsed’ version. The remarkable thing for me is that either attitude permeates through the ENTIRE team.If one is up for it they all are, if one can’t bear arsed, none can be. I am not convinced that Stephan is strong enough to stamp this out. Warnock wouldn’t and didn’t tolerate it (apart from Taarabt on occasion and he was a special case) but not sure about JS. But if we are serious about a play-off tilt, we need to be bang at it for EVERY game.
this is the second issue we have the perfect strom with a coach whos sorry a yes man to nourry and a ceo whos out of his depth , his obsession with sunderland and how they got promoted seems to be rearings its head again as well . we have had two seasons now when our fav players arent aval , first one due to habing to report any injuires via zoom and the second when he was actually hands on , arsenal binned there own guy at the end of the season for this very reason , it can be done , somebody made the comment about the methodology dept thats been brought in , had it made any noticable diff to the players there ttitude and how they play ? honestly no as you just said we know which tema turned up in the first five mins the football isnt gret to watch even with way better players as well . somebody said that nourry wont bring innpplayers older than him a few weeks back if that is the case then we are fecked this season , dont think anyone fro the dev sqaud is close to being ready to play weekly.
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 23:57 - Jun 23 by Stainrod
So what do you want him to state publicly is the ambition?
And how do you think a public pronouncement will help QPR achieve those aims?
Or do you just want to flush Nourry out with a stated ambition so you can beat him over the head if he fails short?
As others have said, he has probably had that conversation with the board.
It’s starting to sound a bit obsessive now…
Of course we sound obsessive. We are obsessive. We're posting on a QPR messageboard about a club that, in my case, I have spent five decades trailing around the country following at a cost of many thousands of pounds, relationships and probably my health/sanity...
We're totally obsessed by QPR, tragically. And when Chris Wright made QPR all about him, I was obsessed by his nonsense. Likewise Paladini, Fernandes...there's always some big egomaniac trying to make my obsession all about them, and often for the worse, because unlike I'd wager most on here, they don't know much about QPR before they rock up (Wright the exception: he was just a vain idiot).
I remain obsessed by QPR and will do so until I die, which given my current hangover feels imminent. So as there is only one person talking about QPR publicly who happens to be in charge of QPR day-to-day and keeps doing interviews which are filled with obvious half-truths I will be obsessed by him. He'll just have to wear that. That's what the money going into his bank each month is for.
If the owner started doing public pronouncements, I would become distracted by that instead. But nobody will be able to police my QPR obsession, nor my well-rehearsed QPR bullsht detector.
And last season's league position did matter, to me and I imagine the board. He can gaslight in an interview saying the floor for an underwhelming season is 16th to 20th - but it wasn't. It was to improve on the previous season. We didn't do that. And we lost some games by absolutely catastrophic, humilating margins. Both those facts are the main points to remember given we also spent more money than we have in four years and lost the standard £20 million.
So next season, we must finish significantly higher than 15th and we have to sell some of the players he's bought to develop at a profit. I will be obsessive about that. It's year four of the Nourry project. But it's year, what, 12 (?) of the Ruben Gnanalingham project.
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 09:21 - Jun 24 with 2280 views
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 00:11 - Jun 24 by BrianMcCarthy
Fair points.
But my main concern is that I don't trust him, and - based on his public declarations - I'm amazed that the owners do, and I'm amazed that any supporter does.
I think I'm in the same camp as you on this one. For me there's no statue of limitations on lying, if he has been happy to lie to the fans, from the start (and so blatantly) then it will forever be relevant to what his saying because how can you trust someone like that? So I think Hunter is right to point it out in relation to any new statements from him despite people wishing we'd all just forget those lies.
I'm also concerned about the narrative that we'll be better placed to judge him at the end of next season, feels like that was said last season as well. This time last year we were told that the development squad was proof that his methods were working and just needed more time, now we're supposed to believe that the guy leading that team didn't buy into his methods (ya know, data and stuff that we definitely weren't already using with Belk) so had to go, so are we now saying that success was due to Furlong not following his methods? Seems to want his cake and eat it.
I can understand that people see this as personal because we're literally singling out one person but it's been described as "vitriol" when we're only contrasting what we're being told against what actually happened, which seems a tad over the top. But if you support the club and want it to succeed then you need to question these things and not just take what he's telling you at face value because he's potentially wasting another large pot of money from Eze on mediocrity.
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 23:49 - Jun 23 by Hunterhoop
Lots of clubs communicate their objectives for the season. We’ve done so in the past. Clubs do it through interviews with players and managers quite often.
And if you don’t want to do so, you talk longer term, but there is a still a timeframe on it. Loads of clubs do it. It’s called ambition.
Our fanbase needs to stop accepting a lack of accountability and embracing mediocrity. We were not always like this.
We can be very good this season. Let’s give it a go.
If we had won just one of our last four games last season we would have finished 13th on 61 points and I honestly don't think we would be having this conversation.
Instead we would probably be moaning about Nourry trying to big himself up for breaking the 60 point barrier.
In three years we have gone from looking like relegation certainties to expecting a playoff push next season.
Regardless of what the table says that is definite progress.
I still think we have bigger worries than our league position last season. If we want to push for the playoffs next season we're going to need a midfield and a goalkeeper worthy of the job description.
And if we can get our squad sorted we then need to solve the problem of getting them match fit and injury-free.
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 09:25 - Jun 24 by KensalT
If we had won just one of our last four games last season we would have finished 13th on 61 points and I honestly don't think we would be having this conversation.
Instead we would probably be moaning about Nourry trying to big himself up for breaking the 60 point barrier.
In three years we have gone from looking like relegation certainties to expecting a playoff push next season.
Regardless of what the table says that is definite progress.
I still think we have bigger worries than our league position last season. If we want to push for the playoffs next season we're going to need a midfield and a goalkeeper worthy of the job description.
And if we can get our squad sorted we then need to solve the problem of getting them match fit and injury-free.
i think we would still be having the same sconversation , nothing has changed with the dialouge from the top , its still consists of white lies , still in some cases belittles the fans who go week in week out , to say we progressed last season isnt the truth , the reg spankings we rec , and the football on show most of the time was awful and remmnber this is with a sqwuad which has had a lot of money thrown at it , even with the impact inuires its stil a better squad than the previous season .
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 16:59 - Jun 23 by Northernr
But it is the whole story eventually. I agree, in the short term, you can point to incremental differences and 'marginal gains', absolutely. Rome wasn't built in a day etc. I'm not expecting anybody to take that Ainsworth team and make it a play off contender overnight, absolutely not - although, as pointed out, Sunderland have gone from League One to Europe in the same timescale and we're going into year four of "the project" now.
If we're still 15th next year, that's a failure, IMO.
Some of the recruitment we've done, particularly up front, I think is quite impressive. I think we'll push on towards the top half this year and can go for that 8th spot if you fix the known problems with injuries, CM and goalkeeper.
Others may say it's fine, as long as we're not still 15th in five years.
It's really about where you draw the line in between. But... there does have to be a line somewhere. This can't be us forever, it does have to get better at some point. We're not running a creche.
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"This can't be us forever, it does have to get better at some point".
You could also apply this statement to where we play our football. We surely can't soldier on as we are unless significant improvements are made to Loftus Road or we move to a new ground.
I'm not proposing we debate the merits of those two options in this thread, I'd just like to know if there is a plan, and if so, what is it, even just in outline.
There may be a great plan sitting on someone's laptop but this is a pivotal issue for the future of the club - and the ground is surely part of someone's objectives and responsibilities - so, please, throw us a bone or two.
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 09:41 - Jun 24 by wombat
i think we would still be having the same sconversation , nothing has changed with the dialouge from the top , its still consists of white lies , still in some cases belittles the fans who go week in week out , to say we progressed last season isnt the truth , the reg spankings we rec , and the football on show most of the time was awful and remmnber this is with a sqwuad which has had a lot of money thrown at it , even with the impact inuires its stil a better squad than the previous season .
I have never met Nourry but he really does come across as a weapons-grade bullsh!t artist.
I can easily imagine I wouldn't enjoy working for him or manage to maintain much respect for any length of time.
I'm particularly suspicious of the way he tries to take credit for things that had nothing to do with him like "scouting Cifuentes" and "removing barriers between the Academy and the first team". The club was working on both those things well before Nourry got his foot in the door.
And as for being in denial about our injury problems and poor player condition. Well what can you say!?
He strikes me as the sort of individual who thinks it's all about him and little old QPR should feel privileged to be sharing his journey.
This is why I wish our board were more hands on. A bad CEO can do a lot of long-term harm to the morale of an organisation that can still be felt after they are gone.
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 11:28 - Jun 24 with 2004 views
If you’re elastic with the truth when you’re selling yourself in, that does tell you something about judgement and respect for the people you’re talking to. That’s not a trivial concern, and it’s why a lot of us are wary whenever he starts another polished interview.
"Objectives and milestones” aren't alien to football. Plenty of clubs talk about what they’re aiming for - Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Sunderland, even us under Warburton when the play‑offs were the expectation. You don’t need a 50‑page strategic plan pinned to the turnstiles, but you do need more than just “trust the process” and “we’re a long way off being promotion‑ready” in year three of a project with serious money spent.
Hunter’s top‑10 / big sale line is as good a starting point as any: if you’ve had three full seasons in charge, a year’s audit beforehand, control over the football structure and around £25m invested, finishing materially higher than 15th and selling at least one of your signings at a clear profit feels like a fair minimum. Hit that and you’ve earned the right to ask for more time and more backing. Fall short and it’s reasonable to ask whether somebody else might get more out of the same platform.
And this isn’t about “flushing him out so we can beat him over the head.” It’s about moving QPR away from the pattern TK1 described where clever talk and carefully managed narratives about youth, data, methodology and pirate ships stand in for hard evidence that we’re actually progressing.
If CN genuinely believes in what he’s doing, he should be able to say “here’s what good looks like by the end of this season and next, and here’s how you’ll know if I’ve delivered it." That’s grown‑up leadership. Without it, we’re just back to judging the patter instead of the performance, and we’ve done far too much of that as a club already.
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 11:32 - Jun 24 by E17hoop
If you’re elastic with the truth when you’re selling yourself in, that does tell you something about judgement and respect for the people you’re talking to. That’s not a trivial concern, and it’s why a lot of us are wary whenever he starts another polished interview.
"Objectives and milestones” aren't alien to football. Plenty of clubs talk about what they’re aiming for - Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Sunderland, even us under Warburton when the play‑offs were the expectation. You don’t need a 50‑page strategic plan pinned to the turnstiles, but you do need more than just “trust the process” and “we’re a long way off being promotion‑ready” in year three of a project with serious money spent.
Hunter’s top‑10 / big sale line is as good a starting point as any: if you’ve had three full seasons in charge, a year’s audit beforehand, control over the football structure and around £25m invested, finishing materially higher than 15th and selling at least one of your signings at a clear profit feels like a fair minimum. Hit that and you’ve earned the right to ask for more time and more backing. Fall short and it’s reasonable to ask whether somebody else might get more out of the same platform.
And this isn’t about “flushing him out so we can beat him over the head.” It’s about moving QPR away from the pattern TK1 described where clever talk and carefully managed narratives about youth, data, methodology and pirate ships stand in for hard evidence that we’re actually progressing.
If CN genuinely believes in what he’s doing, he should be able to say “here’s what good looks like by the end of this season and next, and here’s how you’ll know if I’ve delivered it." That’s grown‑up leadership. Without it, we’re just back to judging the patter instead of the performance, and we’ve done far too much of that as a club already.
Spot on.
Although I wouldn't describe his interviews as polished. Usually he comes across as evasive and unsure of himself.
Maybe that's why he likes the questions submitted in advance for fans forums where he can just perform a prepared answer rather than actually engaging with the line of questioning.
I recall in the Hoops and Dreams interview when he was asked about multi club ownership models where he basically just shrugged and looked like "why are you asking me this!"
I wonder how that attitude plays with Ruben now that he is expanding his empire into Australia.
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How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 11:55 - Jun 24 by KensalT
Spot on.
Although I wouldn't describe his interviews as polished. Usually he comes across as evasive and unsure of himself.
Maybe that's why he likes the questions submitted in advance for fans forums where he can just perform a prepared answer rather than actually engaging with the line of questioning.
I recall in the Hoops and Dreams interview when he was asked about multi club ownership models where he basically just shrugged and looked like "why are you asking me this!"
I wonder how that attitude plays with Ruben now that he is expanding his empire into Australia.
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Fair point about polished - I should have said over produced.
"Total Soccer Growth Holdings (TSG), an international investment group that is the majority shareholder of English club Queens Park Rangers and also has a stake in Los Angeles FC, has been announced as the new owners of the Mariners, the club said in a statement on Tuesday."
Meanwhile, AI says that TSG is incorporated in the British Virgin Islands:
"Total Soccer Growth Holdings (TSG), an international investment group that is the majority shareholder of English club Queens Park Rangers and also has a stake in Los Angeles FC, has been announced as the new owners of the Mariners, the club said in a statement on Tuesday."
Meanwhile, AI says that TSG is incorporated in the British Virgin Islands:
How QPR are building for the future - Christian Nourry interview the CEO show on 09:25 - Jun 24 by KensalT
If we had won just one of our last four games last season we would have finished 13th on 61 points and I honestly don't think we would be having this conversation.
Instead we would probably be moaning about Nourry trying to big himself up for breaking the 60 point barrier.
In three years we have gone from looking like relegation certainties to expecting a playoff push next season.
Regardless of what the table says that is definite progress.
I still think we have bigger worries than our league position last season. If we want to push for the playoffs next season we're going to need a midfield and a goalkeeper worthy of the job description.
And if we can get our squad sorted we then need to solve the problem of getting them match fit and injury-free.
But we didn't win any of those last four. We lost them. *If* we'd won any of the 20 games we lost that season, then yes, we would have more points. But we lost them.
"If" should be banned in relation to sporting results.
I don't think this is entirely true: "In three years we have gone from looking like relegation certainties to expecting a playoff push next season.'
We had two calamitous seasons where we finished 20th and 18th. That was preceded by three seasons of 13th, 9th, 11th when we were genuinely play-off hopefuls.
In the three Nourry seasons we have had points totals of 56, 56, 58. League wins 15, 14, 16. League defeats 20, 18, 20.
We feel that progress has been made, we're hopeful for next season based on the squad now plus the endless search for two or three crucial missing playing ingredients. But it's an eye test. "Definite progress" it is not.
Hopeful for next season. But we will need to turn at least six of those defeats into wins to see definite progress.
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