| Russell Brand is guilty 15:54 - Nov 5 with 12815 views | E17hoop |
Good, I hope he really suffers in clinky wink. |  |
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| Russell Brand is guilty on 14:19 - Nov 10 with 0 views | numptydumpty |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 11:47 - Nov 10 by kensalriser |
As several of the usual rape myths have been aired here, if you have questions about the length of time between an assault and legal proceedings, or you're keen to talk about false accusations, I'd strongly recommend reading this:
https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-
Even the head of the Met is saying that judges should be required to explain these myths and instruct juries to disregard them.
Did you ever hear someone question a murder trial for being too long past the event? |
In a murder trial, obviously the victim is dead.
In a rape trial, the potential victim is very much alive.
And has to face the consequences of focussing on something over and over again and if it did happen, dragging it out, which won't help the potential victim at all. And there are no guarantees that justice will be done, either way.
Hence obviously why people that have experienced sexual assault or r*pe are afraid to report it.
Jurys are left to their own devices. Am very aware of that as I personally was on jury service and quite a few hadnt listened to a lot of the evidence ie it was very long and tedious and hard to remember and went in with their own very evident prejudices in both ways.
In a murder trial if it goes on as long, the victim.wont know about it, quite obviously.
So not really relevant by way of comparison IMHO. Not sure what point you are trying to put across. [Post edited 10 Nov 14:33]
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| Russell Brand is guilty on 14:44 - Nov 10 with 0 views | KensalT |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 13:59 - Nov 10 by plasmahoop |
The guardian, BBC, and the labour party itself all had a blind spot when it came to brand. Despite the Andrew Sachs case and being sacked from xfm they thought he could help them win the 2015 election. Ed miliband was interviewed by him.
As for Walliams, he is similar to Russell brand. Creepy, Pervy, sinister and painfully unfunny. One of the least shocking revelations ever |
Lefties courting Brand is very old news. His politics swung sharply to the right several years ago.
The right wing equally had a blind spot about Jimmy Savile.
A pox on all their houses! |  | | |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 15:15 - Nov 10 with 0 views | wombat |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 11:27 - Nov 10 by robith |
John Torode has a show on ITV with his wife, so his TV career is very much not over.
I also think that is a slightly disingenious example to bring up in a thread about rape and sexual assault |
maybe it is but its al an example about something in the past which is suddenly found and used against somebody |  |
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| Russell Brand is guilty on 15:23 - Nov 10 with 0 views | kensalriser |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 14:19 - Nov 10 by numptydumpty |
In a murder trial, obviously the victim is dead.
In a rape trial, the potential victim is very much alive.
And has to face the consequences of focussing on something over and over again and if it did happen, dragging it out, which won't help the potential victim at all. And there are no guarantees that justice will be done, either way.
Hence obviously why people that have experienced sexual assault or r*pe are afraid to report it.
Jurys are left to their own devices. Am very aware of that as I personally was on jury service and quite a few hadnt listened to a lot of the evidence ie it was very long and tedious and hard to remember and went in with their own very evident prejudices in both ways.
In a murder trial if it goes on as long, the victim.wont know about it, quite obviously.
So not really relevant by way of comparison IMHO. Not sure what point you are trying to put across. [Post edited 10 Nov 14:33]
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It's certainly the case you've comprehensively missed the point, which is not at all about whether or not the victim is alive, but illustrative of the selective ways in which people choose to criticise trials for different categories of serious crime. |  |
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| Russell Brand is guilty on 15:55 - Nov 10 with 0 views | Juzzie |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 14:44 - Nov 10 by KensalT |
Lefties courting Brand is very old news. His politics swung sharply to the right several years ago.
The right wing equally had a blind spot about Jimmy Savile.
A pox on all their houses! |
This constant need for people to pigeon-hole everything as left v right is very, very tiresome.
Just look at everything (including actual politics) as right v wrong.
In the US for example..... is government insider trading right or wrong, is blowing up a school of 150+ young girls right or wrong, is having s*x with under-age girls right or wrong.... and so on. If anyone on the left answers no, they deserve to be in jail. If anyone on the right answers no, they too deserve to be in jail.
This constant doubling-down all the time (we've seen it here with Brexit and everything else since) just because certain people in authority supposedly align with your own narrative shows, IMO, a complete lack of awareness. |  | | |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 16:01 - Nov 10 with 0 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 15:15 - Nov 10 by wombat |
maybe it is but its al an example about something in the past which is suddenly found and used against somebody |
Or, as was the case, an example of somebody with numerous complaints about them being investigated and the uncovering of something that could be proven. |  | | |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 16:11 - Nov 10 with 0 views | W7Ranger |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 15:55 - Nov 10 by Juzzie |
This constant need for people to pigeon-hole everything as left v right is very, very tiresome.
Just look at everything (including actual politics) as right v wrong.
In the US for example..... is government insider trading right or wrong, is blowing up a school of 150+ young girls right or wrong, is having s*x with under-age girls right or wrong.... and so on. If anyone on the left answers no, they deserve to be in jail. If anyone on the right answers no, they too deserve to be in jail.
This constant doubling-down all the time (we've seen it here with Brexit and everything else since) just because certain people in authority supposedly align with your own narrative shows, IMO, a complete lack of awareness. |
10000% this!
I've seen so many people lose friendships in recent years just because of there political leanings!! It's a fcking joke! Not to mention toxic! Never used to be like this. But now the political divide is so bad it seems irreperable, as do many freindships as a result.
You're more likely to be friends with a Chelsea fan than someone with a different political viewpiont!! |  | | |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 16:38 - Nov 10 with 0 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 15:15 - Nov 10 by wombat |
maybe it is but its al an example about something in the past which is suddenly found and used against somebody |
OMG. The information about Brand and Walliams hasn't suddenly been found. The stories were reported in the press after investigations by really good journalists at both The Times and The Guardian that have been going on for years. |  |
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| Russell Brand is guilty on 16:42 - Nov 10 with 0 views | Juzzie |
| Russell Brand is guilty on 16:11 - Nov 10 by W7Ranger |
10000% this!
I've seen so many people lose friendships in recent years just because of there political leanings!! It's a fcking joke! Not to mention toxic! Never used to be like this. But now the political divide is so bad it seems irreperable, as do many freindships as a result.
You're more likely to be friends with a Chelsea fan than someone with a different political viewpiont!! |
Russell Brand flipped from left to right to suit his own agenda
Donald Trump flipped from left to right to suit his own agenda
Boris Johnson flipped from anti-Brexit to pro-Brexit to suit his own agenda
There are many, many people in authority whose very purpose is totally self-serving, even if the job they do is actually meant to be for the benefit of everyone.
When will people wake up to this?
Anyways, back to Russell Brand..... it seems during the trial and since conviction/sentencing more people have come forward. He could be in clinky winky until he's very old. Even when/if he does come out he'll be under very heavy restrictions so will not lead a normal life anymore until the day he dies.
Brands hatch;
I'll get me coat..... | | | |
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