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Surely this can’t be right 06:42 - May 31 with 5425 viewsloftboy

In the last couple of weeks whilst cycling to work I’ve nearly been wiped out by Eastern European drivers three times whilst cycling to work, basically when I’ve been turning right I’ve had cars over take me whilst blaring their horn and shouting loudly at me in their native tongue, I’m out training a Romanian guy today and asked him if the rules are different to her here, he replied “yes, cyclists have to give way to cars no matter what”
Surely if they are driving over here they need to read our Highway Code, someone is going by to end up getter my killed.

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Surely this can’t be right on 07:55 - May 31 with 3941 viewsLblock

Usual suspects will be along soon to label you:-

1. A racialist innit
2. A small minded Brexiteer
3. A little Englander

To answer your question... no, it is right and you are totally wrong.
We, as the liberal nation we are, should simply accept the ways and cultures of every transient being who lands or passes through here. No matter if it flies in the face of what this country was built up on. Failure to observe this will lead you to be in one, if not all three, of the above categories.

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Surely this can’t be right on 08:21 - May 31 with 3894 viewsBerkoRanger

I've been saying for years that the Highway Code we all knew and loved doesn't exist any more. There is just one rule - don't hit anything. Everything else is a complete free for all.
I've been driving now for 48 years and the current standard of driving on the road that I see is appalling.
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Surely this can’t be right on 08:41 - May 31 with 3851 viewsRs_Holy

Surely this can’t be right on 08:21 - May 31 by BerkoRanger

I've been saying for years that the Highway Code we all knew and loved doesn't exist any more. There is just one rule - don't hit anything. Everything else is a complete free for all.
I've been driving now for 48 years and the current standard of driving on the road that I see is appalling.


the difference between 10 years ago and now is massive. In my experience you have to have eyes everywhere and be prepared to jump onto the pavement sharpish if required.
I've had cars and vans cut me up on roundabouts quite a bit... (if its a mini roundabout they simply drive over it rather thans go around it). Ive also had cars cut me up by diving into a street infront of me without indicating.
On the plus side I dont get the random verbals from people in vans as much as I used to and even got a wolf whistle from a lady in a car last year!...which was nice :)
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Surely this can’t be right on 09:42 - May 31 with 3728 viewsCamberleyR

Surely this can’t be right on 08:21 - May 31 by BerkoRanger

I've been saying for years that the Highway Code we all knew and loved doesn't exist any more. There is just one rule - don't hit anything. Everything else is a complete free for all.
I've been driving now for 48 years and the current standard of driving on the road that I see is appalling.


"I've been driving now for 48 years and the current standard of driving on the road that I see is appalling“

Totally agree. I haven't been driving as long as you (only 31 years) but I hate driving today, it's an absolute chore whereas when I first started driving it was still pleasurable.

You need eyes in the back of your head and your wits about you 100% because of the fücking idiots that are driving now. The pretty good dashcam I got as a prezzie sitting on my dashboard I'm sure is going to come in very useful sometime.

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Surely this can’t be right on 10:34 - May 31 with 3634 viewsBoston

I think drivers are saying pretty much the same thing about cyclists.

Next week we’ll find something to blame on pedestrians.

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Surely this can’t be right on 10:54 - May 31 with 3600 viewsderbyhoop

I'm grateful to live in rural France where, outside the towns, you see one car every 5 minutes.
I recently did a 6km journey where I saw more buzzards (3) than cars (1).

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Surely this can’t be right on 11:16 - May 31 with 3555 viewsloftboy

Surely this can’t be right on 10:34 - May 31 by Boston

I think drivers are saying pretty much the same thing about cyclists.

Next week we’ll find something to blame on pedestrians.


My point being though is these drivers genuinely believe they are in the right due to the laws in their home country, I was turning right, I had check d over my shoulder and gave a hand signal yet two cars still overtook me as I was turning and gave me verbals into the bargain.

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Surely this can’t be right on 11:20 - May 31 with 3540 viewsMick_S

Surely this can’t be right on 09:42 - May 31 by CamberleyR

"I've been driving now for 48 years and the current standard of driving on the road that I see is appalling“

Totally agree. I haven't been driving as long as you (only 31 years) but I hate driving today, it's an absolute chore whereas when I first started driving it was still pleasurable.

You need eyes in the back of your head and your wits about you 100% because of the fücking idiots that are driving now. The pretty good dashcam I got as a prezzie sitting on my dashboard I'm sure is going to come in very useful sometime.


Driving is rubbish - I get in my car once a week, and that's too often.

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Surely this can’t be right on 11:38 - May 31 with 3480 viewshopphoops

Surely this can’t be right on 11:16 - May 31 by loftboy

My point being though is these drivers genuinely believe they are in the right due to the laws in their home country, I was turning right, I had check d over my shoulder and gave a hand signal yet two cars still overtook me as I was turning and gave me verbals into the bargain.


Brexit or no Brexit, it's totally sensible that all drivers take a test in a new country within e.g. a year of taking up residence. Even if there is an EU license, each country has different rules. Driving in Switzerland, I only discovered the priority-to-the-right rule by breaking it and being shouted at.

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Surely this can’t be right on 11:55 - May 31 with 3438 viewsstowmarketrange

Surely this can’t be right on 08:41 - May 31 by Rs_Holy

the difference between 10 years ago and now is massive. In my experience you have to have eyes everywhere and be prepared to jump onto the pavement sharpish if required.
I've had cars and vans cut me up on roundabouts quite a bit... (if its a mini roundabout they simply drive over it rather thans go around it). Ive also had cars cut me up by diving into a street infront of me without indicating.
On the plus side I dont get the random verbals from people in vans as much as I used to and even got a wolf whistle from a lady in a car last year!...which was nice :)


What are these “indicators” that you speak of?
You’d be hard pushed to find anyone in Suffolk who knows that they’ve got them,let alone use them.
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Surely this can’t be right on 12:01 - May 31 with 3418 viewsSimonJames

When the day comes that all the cars are controlled by computers they still won't be able to anticipate the often random actions of bicycles and pedestrians. So unfortunately cyclists will always have to be hypervigilant and never trust other road users.

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Surely this can’t be right on 12:32 - May 31 with 3343 viewsJuzzie

A couple of years ago I spent two weeks in Kyrgyzstan and the driving was awful. I am not kidding when I say I feared for my life whilst on a 4 hour mini-van taxi drive. I'm sure this is the same in dozens of countries across the world. When they all come here they bring their driving habits with them and chaos ensues because we drive the way we've been taught and kind of expect everyone who comes here to do the same. They don't so we have to be ever mindful.


Does this put me in one of those three categories above?!
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Surely this can’t be right on 12:47 - May 31 with 3303 viewspaulparker

Surely this can’t be right on 11:55 - May 31 by stowmarketrange

What are these “indicators” that you speak of?
You’d be hard pushed to find anyone in Suffolk who knows that they’ve got them,let alone use them.


People who don't use their indicators should be publicly flogged

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Surely this can’t be right on 12:51 - May 31 with 3291 viewsEsox_Lucius

Surely this can’t be right on 11:55 - May 31 by stowmarketrange

What are these “indicators” that you speak of?
You’d be hard pushed to find anyone in Suffolk who knows that they’ve got them,let alone use them.


Ah, the magic blinky stick!

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Surely this can’t be right on 13:38 - May 31 with 3174 viewsR_from_afar

Surely this can’t be right on 12:32 - May 31 by Juzzie

A couple of years ago I spent two weeks in Kyrgyzstan and the driving was awful. I am not kidding when I say I feared for my life whilst on a 4 hour mini-van taxi drive. I'm sure this is the same in dozens of countries across the world. When they all come here they bring their driving habits with them and chaos ensues because we drive the way we've been taught and kind of expect everyone who comes here to do the same. They don't so we have to be ever mindful.


Does this put me in one of those three categories above?!


Your post reminds me of my holiday in Puerto Rico. The guide book said don't even consider driving in the mountains at night. Motorists drive with no lights on and there are also (unlit) horse-drawn vehicles to contend with.

Getting back to the subject of cycling in this country, I am a cyclist (and also drive; yes, I am a pedestrian too ) and in all seriousness, it is pretty scary out there. I use cycle paths whenever I can and hats off to Bracknell (where I live), there are loads of them. You need to dress for battle if you are going to be cycling on the actual roads as well as to be very positive: eyeball drivers before you indicate and move out, that sort of thing. Lights, reflectives, helmet - all vital. A broadsword or lance might also be useful.

I once got horrifically cut up by a driver in France, freaked out and punched his car (I'm not ironman, I was wearing gloves). He stopped and held up the traffic while we had a lengthy - and surprisingly amicable - debate. I said he nearly knocked me over, he responded by saying it's a really busy road, how was he supposed to get past unless he squeezed through? I suggested he might like to wait for a gap in the flow of traffic coming the other way, a suggestion which got a similar reaction to if I had told him to try using time travel to get past.

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Surely this can’t be right on 14:41 - May 31 with 3102 viewsEsox_Lucius

It's even worse driving in the US, try driving on the left over there and you get all sorts of grief from people who just don't get our motoring history, or have any respect for it.
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Surely this can’t be right on 15:31 - May 31 with 3031 viewsBoston

Surely this can’t be right on 14:41 - May 31 by Esox_Lucius

It's even worse driving in the US, try driving on the left over there and you get all sorts of grief from people who just don't get our motoring history, or have any respect for it.
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Indeed it was years before I gave in to their colonial nonsense. Never had a single prang in all that time but the number of accidents I witnessed going on all around me....

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Surely this can’t be right on 15:41 - May 31 with 3004 viewsjonno

The standard of driving here in Cyprus is pretty haphazard as you can perhaps imagine. To the Cypriot driver, traffic lights are advisory only and indicators purely optional, almost never used as they interfere with the mobile phone permanently clamped to most drivers ears. Add to that the fact that the volume of traffic through the summer is trebled by tourists in rental cars, the majority of which have no idea where they are going let alone able to drive correctly. It's not unusual, as has happened to me more than once, to find a car heading straight at you on your side of a dual carriageway. A guy I've become friends with out here was a professional driver in the UK for 40 years, was the Queen's chauffeur for nine years and has done every driving course possible, anti-hijack, speed pursuit etc. Plus has HGV licence etc. Brought his large motorbike out here with him as well as his Range Rover, refuses to ride the bike at all as it's too dangerous and is selling it!
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Surely this can’t be right on 15:52 - May 31 with 2987 viewsToast_R

I wish the Council's would do more to penalise dangerous driving rather then thinking of snide ways to line their pockets, i.e. a box junction where in busy times the road is gridlocked so they get to fine anyone some serious English pounds for having so much as a millimetre of their tyre inside one.
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Surely this can’t be right on 18:34 - May 31 with 2813 viewsrunningman75

I think the warm weather bought out more idiots. I am a bit of a snowflake but on leaving work yesterday a car zoomed and just jumped a red light when I was about to cross the pedestrian crossing. Noticed a foreign number plate though where I work there are also enough British boy racers to counterbalance the foreign ones.
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Surely this can’t be right on 21:17 - May 31 with 2698 viewsFredManRave

Surely this can’t be right on 07:55 - May 31 by Lblock

Usual suspects will be along soon to label you:-

1. A racialist innit
2. A small minded Brexiteer
3. A little Englander

To answer your question... no, it is right and you are totally wrong.
We, as the liberal nation we are, should simply accept the ways and cultures of every transient being who lands or passes through here. No matter if it flies in the face of what this country was built up on. Failure to observe this will lead you to be in one, if not all three, of the above categories.

Enjoy your day you lyrca clad loon


Well done, LB. Looks like you're early salvo scared them off.

Shame you didn't do it in the Brexit threads!

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Surely this can’t be right on 23:50 - May 31 with 2581 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Surely this can’t be right on 18:34 - May 31 by runningman75

I think the warm weather bought out more idiots. I am a bit of a snowflake but on leaving work yesterday a car zoomed and just jumped a red light when I was about to cross the pedestrian crossing. Noticed a foreign number plate though where I work there are also enough British boy racers to counterbalance the foreign ones.


I saw an idiot driver yesterday overtaking two cars on a bend of a single carriage way. The second car accelerated to try to stop them overtaking until the car in front got in the way. The over taking car then carried on past the two of them at 50-60mph on a 30 mph road narrowly missing oncoming traffic. The car in front turned off soon after allowing the enraged second car to speed off after the overtaking shithead. It was a proper sight to see.
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Surely this can’t be right on 00:58 - Jun 1 with 2539 viewstimcocking

Its exactly the same over here. A bike must get out of the way immediately every time.

It's one reason why i find the notion of cycling around London on a daily basis pretty foolish really. I just think it's an awful lot more dangerous than English folk realise and it's very much a question of when, not if, somebody wipes you out.

That and the fact they insist on dressing like class A pratts with their dicks on display, absolutely gross. Nobody wants to see that. Please tell me you wear sensible attire?

Ps Obviously, i imagine in the entire world it's only Britain who have a highway code. The thought of trying to get the Thais to suddenly learn that...good luck with that. Those pesky foreigners don't care for rules in the way Brits do.
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Surely this can’t be right on 01:08 - Jun 1 with 2528 viewstimcocking

Surely this can’t be right on 23:50 - May 31 by CliveWilsonSaid

I saw an idiot driver yesterday overtaking two cars on a bend of a single carriage way. The second car accelerated to try to stop them overtaking until the car in front got in the way. The over taking car then carried on past the two of them at 50-60mph on a 30 mph road narrowly missing oncoming traffic. The car in front turned off soon after allowing the enraged second car to speed off after the overtaking shithead. It was a proper sight to see.
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Once again, this is literally normal driving over here. If there is a vehicle travelling slower in front, it gets passed irrespective of visibility or oncoming traffic. The Thais have to take their vehicles to the temple to get magic protection symbols painted on by the monks to protect from crashes and of course they all have their magic amulets on the mirror as well.

The problem is, they don't yet realise magic paint doesn't stop oncoming traffic.

Our lass knocked a girl off her motorbike only yesterday in fact (luckily only slowly). It isn't the first time and it won't be the last.
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Surely this can’t be right on 08:24 - Jun 1 with 2435 viewsloftboy

Surely this can’t be right on 00:58 - Jun 1 by timcocking

Its exactly the same over here. A bike must get out of the way immediately every time.

It's one reason why i find the notion of cycling around London on a daily basis pretty foolish really. I just think it's an awful lot more dangerous than English folk realise and it's very much a question of when, not if, somebody wipes you out.

That and the fact they insist on dressing like class A pratts with their dicks on display, absolutely gross. Nobody wants to see that. Please tell me you wear sensible attire?

Ps Obviously, i imagine in the entire world it's only Britain who have a highway code. The thought of trying to get the Thais to suddenly learn that...good luck with that. Those pesky foreigners don't care for rules in the way Brits do.
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I don’t wear Lycra thankyou very much!!

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