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Look, we HAVE to sell him at some point and with just two years left on that contract, this year is the year we'll have to cash in to maximise income. I'd rather sell Dickie or even Dieng to raise funds, but we all know who will generate the next Eze type sale...
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 09:09 - Aug 7 by BrianMcCarthy
He's worth £15m+ but, as we saw with Eze, it depends what bidding clubs value him at.
It does to a point, but if the biggest offer we get this summer is £2m, we do not have to take it... In theory QPR has a valuation that we can stick too at the moment, it won't be too low, but it can't be too high. They HAVE to sell someone in the next couple of years!
Possibly controversial, but depending on context I'd take anything over £10m even if he's potentially worth double that.
We're already bumping up against FFP, the transfer market is fcked, our future as a club hinges on selling players for more than we paid, and if CW doesn't renew then we'll have to sell him by this time next year for whatever someone's willing to offer. Given all of that, a 1000% profit on a player who cost us £750k would represent good business regardless of context.
The two big factors are his contract and how much demand there is for him, though. Get a contract extension signed, and get Brighton and Newcastle in a bidding war, and something comparable to Eze's fee would be the absolute minimum we should even consider.
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What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 09:49 - Aug 7 with 4311 views
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 09:12 - Aug 7 by davman
It does to a point, but if the biggest offer we get this summer is £2m, we do not have to take it... In theory QPR has a valuation that we can stick too at the moment, it won't be too low, but it can't be too high. They HAVE to sell someone in the next couple of years!
Or we all need to hope that Eze has a big season for Palace and gets sold for £40m/£50m. That would do the job nicely for us with a reported 30% sell on clause.
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What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 12:02 - Aug 7 with 3959 views
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 11:51 - Aug 7 by traininvain
Or we all need to hope that Eze has a big season for Palace and gets sold for £40m/£50m. That would do the job nicely for us with a reported 30% sell on clause.
Swansea just got £12m for a player I had to Google
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 11:51 - Aug 7 by traininvain
Or we all need to hope that Eze has a big season for Palace and gets sold for £40m/£50m. That would do the job nicely for us with a reported 30% sell on clause.
Well Eze missed a very good change to equalise on Friday night. But I hope he has a stormer this season.
Regards Willock, he’s only worth what others are willing to pay, but maybe we could increase what they would have to offer with an improved contract extension with a minimum sale figure….?
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What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 13:05 - Aug 7 with 3797 views
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 12:02 - Aug 7 by golborne
Swansea just got £12m for a player I had to Google
Who’s a year younger than Willock, had a year longer on his contract than Willock does, was being tracked by loads of Prem clubs and played for a team with a more established reputation for developing young talent.
Not saying £12m is unrealistic for Willock - if anyone was to buy him for that they’d still be getting a hell of a bargain - but just because another club gets X amount for a player doesn’t mean that we should automatically expect the same.
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What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 13:23 - Aug 7 with 3691 views
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 13:05 - Aug 7 by kensalriser
Fck me. Can't we just enjoy it?
The voice of fan sanity (if that isn't an oxymoron)! If we sold him this season, that would obviously torpedo a massive hole in the good ship QPR and probably badly damage the squad's morale, and then some. We need to have a real crack at it under Beale this campaign with Willock with us, who's already highlighted how important he is to our gme plan. Without him, our creativity is, as we saw vs Blackburn, seriously curtailed and would be akin to Warnock's Champ winning side flogging off the Terror Bat (without whom we wouldn't have gone up).
The club should at a minimum, get CW to sign a longer contract, as they did with Freeman and Chair (knowing this is often symbolic in the industry of lies and deceit that is modern pro football) to boost his sale value, set a proper valuation of at least 15m+, and delay 'the inevitable' for as long as economically possible. Should we go up this season, they'd then have a player tied to a contract whom we would be in a real position to hold onto (if the Board actually wanted us to compete) or sell at a massive fee if he's determined to leave for a 'big club'.
As an alternative plan, we could sell him to Florist for 8M this month, bring back Freeman on loan to replace him, and tumble back to 16th. (Which quite a lot of people here would apparently prefer.)
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 13:23 - Aug 7 by stainrods_elbow
The voice of fan sanity (if that isn't an oxymoron)! If we sold him this season, that would obviously torpedo a massive hole in the good ship QPR and probably badly damage the squad's morale, and then some. We need to have a real crack at it under Beale this campaign with Willock with us, who's already highlighted how important he is to our gme plan. Without him, our creativity is, as we saw vs Blackburn, seriously curtailed and would be akin to Warnock's Champ winning side flogging off the Terror Bat (without whom we wouldn't have gone up).
The club should at a minimum, get CW to sign a longer contract, as they did with Freeman and Chair (knowing this is often symbolic in the industry of lies and deceit that is modern pro football) to boost his sale value, set a proper valuation of at least 15m+, and delay 'the inevitable' for as long as economically possible. Should we go up this season, they'd then have a player tied to a contract whom we would be in a real position to hold onto (if the Board actually wanted us to compete) or sell at a massive fee if he's determined to leave for a 'big club'.
As an alternative plan, we could sell him to Florist for 8M this month, bring back Freeman on loan to replace him, and tumble back to 16th. (Which quite a lot of people here would apparently prefer.)
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You can’t “get” a player to sign a contract if they don’t want to. Everyone on here obviously wants Willock to sign, and there’s no evidence to suggest that he won’t, but if he doesn’t then our two options are to get whatever fee we can for him by September 2023, or left him leave on a free in January 2024.
We had a crack at promotion last year and fcked it, which is why selling someone like Willock within the next 12 months is so critical. Our whole business model depends on buying players cheap, improving them, selling them at a profit, reinvesting some of the money and repeating the cycle until we’ve got a squad that can compete with the parachute payment clubs. We sold Eze and got better, and we’ll need to do the same with Willock / Chair / Dieng / Dickie / whoever else, including managing morale in the squad, in the future
Enjoy all of them while they’re here, sure, but if we’re going to build a squad capable of properly challenging for promotion then we need to keep selling valuable players and creating new ones - that’s not a question of preference, it’s the financial reality of trying to compete in this league.
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What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 14:03 - Aug 7 with 3558 views
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 09:49 - Aug 7 by PunteR
How much did we get for Eze ? No less than that.
In fact is Willock worth more ? Is he a better player than Eze ?
I've seen that we are supposed to get £20 M for Eze. Right or wrong, I reckon Willock is as good and worth at least that to us as he could get us promoted, just as Adel did that Championship season with Colin. If we have to sell 1st team regular outfield players this summer or in January, I'd prefer any two of them to Willock. Our fall off in form last season coincided pretty much with his injury and our improvement with him playing yesterday compared to without him at Blackburn and the last month or so of last season was as clear as day is from night.
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What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 14:16 - Aug 7 with 3509 views
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 09:10 - Aug 7 by davman
Look, we HAVE to sell him at some point and with just two years left on that contract, this year is the year we'll have to cash in to maximise income. I'd rather sell Dickie or even Dieng to raise funds, but we all know who will generate the next Eze type sale...
That's only accurate if one club comes in for him. If he has a good season, I can't believe only one club will want him. If he doesn't, hopefully he'll stay. It would take a min. bid of £10m for the club to sell this summer imo.
Bare bones.
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What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 16:12 - Aug 7 with 3253 views
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 13:43 - Aug 7 by ed_83
You can’t “get” a player to sign a contract if they don’t want to. Everyone on here obviously wants Willock to sign, and there’s no evidence to suggest that he won’t, but if he doesn’t then our two options are to get whatever fee we can for him by September 2023, or left him leave on a free in January 2024.
We had a crack at promotion last year and fcked it, which is why selling someone like Willock within the next 12 months is so critical. Our whole business model depends on buying players cheap, improving them, selling them at a profit, reinvesting some of the money and repeating the cycle until we’ve got a squad that can compete with the parachute payment clubs. We sold Eze and got better, and we’ll need to do the same with Willock / Chair / Dieng / Dickie / whoever else, including managing morale in the squad, in the future
Enjoy all of them while they’re here, sure, but if we’re going to build a squad capable of properly challenging for promotion then we need to keep selling valuable players and creating new ones - that’s not a question of preference, it’s the financial reality of trying to compete in this league.
Now THAT is the voice of fan sanity. What motivation is there for Willock to sign a new deal? We have no funds left for new players, which means (I suspect) that we cannot offer any meaningful additional wages.
His best economic answer is to let the contract run (giving his all because he looks to be that type of a lad) then, like BOS and Manning before him, he can get a juicy contract compensating him for his new club not having to pay £10m+ (or £64k a week over a three year contract).
So, what's the club to do knowing that? They HAVE to maximise what that will get. This summer and possibly winter could be a seller's market. Next summer will be last chance saloon for the club to get what they can before he can leave for nothing.
It is no way straightforward post Bosman, which has hamstrung the smaller clubs more than anyone knows.
I understand the logic in cashing in on Willock, but the only way I would do so this season is with a loan back for the remainder of it.
I am not saying we are good enough to go up, but any remote chance we might have is with Willock in the side (much the same way as when we won the title in 2010/11).
I understand it is only what clubs are willing to pay, but QPR should price him at £15m+ just as Lewis Porter sold by Hull to Brentford.
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What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 16:51 - Aug 7 with 3139 views
Huge venn diagram overlap between those who wouldn’t accept less than £20m for Willock and those this think Les Ferdinand, who brought him in for £750k, is the root of all the club‘s problems.
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What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 17:09 - Aug 7 with 3074 views
The club will have in mind an acceptable value. I'd be v disappointed if we didn't get 15m or more. Not sure the club would sell fir much less.
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What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 17:22 - Aug 7 with 3026 views
What would you take for Willock if a bid comes this month? on 17:07 - Aug 7 by BazzaInTheLoft
Another cheerful thread 😆
Huge venn diagram overlap between those who wouldn’t accept less than £20m for Willock and those this think Les Ferdinand, who brought him in for £750k, is the root of all the club‘s problems.
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Remember though, if a player is a success it is because of the manager/recruitment team/youth coaches - not Big Bad Les. Unless it's the scapegoat-of-the-week, in which case of course Big Bad Les is to blame, duh
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