| France…. 22:34 - Mar 23 with 4183 views | colinallcars | …Wow, they don't mess around do they ! Bourdeaux town hall ablaze in protests over raising the pension age. They'll have to get Patron Maigret on the case if he's finished his Calvados. |  | | |  |
| France…. on 22:58 - Mar 23 with 2912 views | loftboy | Meanwhile in the UK the age was raised to 67 without a murmur. |  |
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| France…. on 23:07 - Mar 23 with 2886 views | Jigsore | we never had a modern revolution, and it shows |  | |  |
| France…. on 23:09 - Mar 23 with 2878 views | CamberleyR |
| France…. on 22:58 - Mar 23 by loftboy | Meanwhile in the UK the age was raised to 67 without a murmur. |
That's one thing I do actually admire the French for. They absolutely don't take any crap when they think their government is shitting on them from a great height. The British are too bloody accepting and apathetic for their own good. |  |
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| France…. on 23:22 - Mar 23 with 2837 views | colinallcars |
| France…. on 23:09 - Mar 23 by CamberleyR | That's one thing I do actually admire the French for. They absolutely don't take any crap when they think their government is shitting on them from a great height. The British are too bloody accepting and apathetic for their own good. |
I agree….and yet the press make us here, to be Marxist, raving lefties out to destroy society. |  | |  |
| France…. on 23:29 - Mar 23 with 2814 views | FredManRave |
| France…. on 23:09 - Mar 23 by CamberleyR | That's one thing I do actually admire the French for. They absolutely don't take any crap when they think their government is shitting on them from a great height. The British are too bloody accepting and apathetic for their own good. |
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| France…. on 23:38 - Mar 23 with 2790 views | dixiedean | As is often the case a peaceful demonstration is hijacked by anarchists and general low- life who seize the opportunity to create mayhem. Surely you can’t justify arson and wanton vandalism just because people have to work an extra couple of years? |  | |  |
| France…. on 23:52 - Mar 23 with 2745 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| France…. on 23:07 - Mar 23 by Jigsore | we never had a modern revolution, and it shows |
Karl Marx said we‘d be the first. In reality, today the leader of the Labour Party said that Thatcher was right. Appreciate this forum has a spectrum of political opinion, but that can’t be a sign of a healthy and wide ranging democracy surely? [Post edited 24 Mar 2023 7:32]
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| France…. on 23:53 - Mar 23 with 2743 views | DannyPaddox | Agree with the sentiments on here. Say what you like about the French. They stand up for their rights. This country takes it up the arse year after year and every election votes the Tories back in. And they’ve got better cheese! |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| France…. on 00:02 - Mar 24 with 2711 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| France…. on 23:38 - Mar 23 by dixiedean | As is often the case a peaceful demonstration is hijacked by anarchists and general low- life who seize the opportunity to create mayhem. Surely you can’t justify arson and wanton vandalism just because people have to work an extra couple of years? |
Low Life Anarchist Fireman and Train Drivers |  | |  |
| France…. on 01:01 - Mar 24 with 2627 views | Boston | Where were those firemen when British lambs were on fire? |  |
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| France…. on 04:33 - Mar 24 with 2551 views | numptydumpty | It will be 68 here fairly soon and the prediction is that this could well be increased to 70 in updated predicted legislation. The expectations of workers these days are way beyond what they were 30 years ago. French schools used to have a two hour lunch break where entire schools go home to their families and Spain has in past closed up shop for Siesta afternoons. And all these randoms are desperate to live in the UK. |  |
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| France…. on 07:19 - Mar 24 with 2362 views | essextaxiboy | Its not retirement age , its state pension age . Put money away for your pension as early as possible , take an interest in where its invested and its performance . Learn a little of investing and if you are younger , take a little risk . if someone runs it for you , ask questions . Look at it as saving for the longest holiday ever, or if you paff out leaving your loved ones comfortable . Live modestly in retirement and you can pack up , or at least just do a couple of days when you choose ... not a bunch of politicians |  | |  |
| France…. on 07:26 - Mar 24 with 2342 views | distortR |
| France…. on 23:53 - Mar 23 by DannyPaddox | Agree with the sentiments on here. Say what you like about the French. They stand up for their rights. This country takes it up the arse year after year and every election votes the Tories back in. And they’ve got better cheese! |
When you've created cheddar, why would you bother continuing to experiment? |  | |  |
| France…. on 07:27 - Mar 24 with 2339 views | Paddyhoops | Can’t imagine how we would manage in this country if it was lowered to the French retirement age. Mate of mine recently retired as a civil servant at 60 . Cracking pension . I jokingly said to him . Just as well I’m working another 8 years to subsidise it. He wasn’t impressed. Advances in medical science means we’re all living longer. That takes money supplied by taxpayers . Surely the same model applies to the French . I would much to prefer to retire at 65 and I’m sure with a fairer system where the wealth is shared out a bit more it could happen but I can’t see that happening any time soon. |  | |  |
| France…. on 07:38 - Mar 24 with 2280 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I’ll leave the thread with this… 10% of the world’s GDP is kept offshore hoarded in tax havens. Doing nothing. We can absolutely afford pensions at 60 if we wanted to change things. [Post edited 24 Mar 2023 8:11]
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| France…. on 07:44 - Mar 24 with 2272 views | distortR |
| France…. on 07:27 - Mar 24 by Paddyhoops | Can’t imagine how we would manage in this country if it was lowered to the French retirement age. Mate of mine recently retired as a civil servant at 60 . Cracking pension . I jokingly said to him . Just as well I’m working another 8 years to subsidise it. He wasn’t impressed. Advances in medical science means we’re all living longer. That takes money supplied by taxpayers . Surely the same model applies to the French . I would much to prefer to retire at 65 and I’m sure with a fairer system where the wealth is shared out a bit more it could happen but I can’t see that happening any time soon. |
The public sector pensions are a problem. Some working in this sphere will retire at 50, and be retired, and taking out, for a long time. The IOM has, per head of population, a massive public sector, their paid-in pension pot is running dry (It has a shortfall of billions on a population of 85000), and is being topped up by normal working people, many of whom can't afford a pension other then the meagre state one, for which they are having to work longer to receive. |  | |  |
| France…. on 08:05 - Mar 24 with 2211 views | distortR |
| France…. on 07:38 - Mar 24 by BazzaInTheLoft | I’ll leave the thread with this… 10% of the world’s GDP is kept offshore hoarded in tax havens. Doing nothing. We can absolutely afford pensions at 60 if we wanted to change things. [Post edited 24 Mar 2023 8:11]
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The way money is distributed and spent*, we should be living more equitable and fulfilling lives, for sure. *I'm not proposing Marxism though, I've seen how that works when it's filtered through the prism of power! |  | |  |
| France…. on 08:12 - Mar 24 with 2186 views | stevec |
| France…. on 07:38 - Mar 24 by BazzaInTheLoft | I’ll leave the thread with this… 10% of the world’s GDP is kept offshore hoarded in tax havens. Doing nothing. We can absolutely afford pensions at 60 if we wanted to change things. [Post edited 24 Mar 2023 8:11]
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Paddyhoops and DistortR make very valid points, why are those who work in private industry subsidising the pensions of those who work in public services? It’s simply unfair. |  | |  |
| France…. on 08:53 - Mar 24 with 2106 views | Esox_Lucius |
You don't live to work, you work to live. Once you have what you deem to be enough, go out and enjoy it. |  |
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| France…. on 09:10 - Mar 24 with 2057 views | Paddyhoops |
| France…. on 08:12 - Mar 24 by stevec | Paddyhoops and DistortR make very valid points, why are those who work in private industry subsidising the pensions of those who work in public services? It’s simply unfair. |
I have a certain admiration for the French . The spirit of the revolution and all that but the days of the 5 hour lunches are a thing of the past now. Living longer means working longer. Have to say the private sector do get a raw deal and it is a bit galling when somebody called “Steve” introduces himself on Pointless as a retired 54 year old police officer who plays golf a lot while I ponder another day of Arthritis in my hands from years of plastering. . I know I know… should have worked harder at school! |  | |  |
| France…. on 09:26 - Mar 24 with 1998 views | loftboy |
I stated work at 16 years and 1 month, when I reach 67 I would have benn working for 51 years. |  |
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| France…. on 09:35 - Mar 24 with 1977 views | Sonofpugwash | Act like sheep and they'll treat you like sheep. |  |
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| France…. on 09:57 - Mar 24 with 1884 views | Boston |
| France…. on 09:35 - Mar 24 by Sonofpugwash | Act like sheep and they'll treat you like sheep. |
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| France…. on 10:27 - Mar 24 with 1348 views | stowmarketrange |
| France…. on 08:53 - Mar 24 by Esox_Lucius | You don't live to work, you work to live. Once you have what you deem to be enough, go out and enjoy it. |
I am.Bollox to the future. |  | |  |
| France…. on 11:36 - Mar 24 with 1266 views | hamptonhillhoop |
| France…. on 00:02 - Mar 24 by BazzaInTheLoft | Low Life Anarchist Fireman and Train Drivers |
That first clip is nearly two years old, it doesn't relate to the current demonstrations |  | |  |
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