| Warnock 18:07 - Apr 1 with 4846 views | daveB |
From the day Warnock was sacked he's case a shadow over the Fernandes era as well as Les ferdinand after he didn't appoint him
compared to every manager, always the ones fans want and now after retiring coming back to keep Huddersfield up at our expense will be the chery on the cake
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| Warnock on 18:10 - Apr 1 with 4738 views | paulparker |
Will be poetic justice if Warnock keeps Huddersfield up and we go down
I’m convinced if we had kept Warnock when he took over from the shambles that was Ramseys appointment then we would of gone up or at least got in the play offs |  |
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That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Warnock on 18:11 - Apr 1 with 4773 views | ManinBlack |
Scoring four against Boro today was impressive as we once again can't even manage four shots on target against the bottom team with the worst defence. Clearly their players gave bought into Warnock's methods whereas ours don't want to know whoever is in charge. |  | | |
| Warnock on 18:16 - Apr 1 with 4718 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I don’t disagree, but the thread leading up to Warnock’s sacking surfaced a little bit ago and it was 80% against. The greater lesson about the value of stability hasn’t been learned by neither the fans nor club. [Post edited 1 Apr 2023 18:17]
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| Warnock on 19:51 - Apr 1 with 4379 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Warnock on 18:10 - Apr 1 by paulparker |
Will be poetic justice if Warnock keeps Huddersfield up and we go down
I’m convinced if we had kept Warnock when he took over from the shambles that was Ramseys appointment then we would of gone up or at least got in the play offs |
Of course we would. Still remember that Reading game - it felt like we were on the way back.....of course it was his final match and then we had to endure JFH. It was always clear that Ferdinand didn't want a proven winner like him around to show him up. Appointed his mate to keep us up (he didn't) and then appointed the void that is JFH so we could lose 6-0 at home to Newcastle. Just like appointing Ainsworth to take some heat off him. Eight years of incompetence and here we are. |  | | |
| Warnock on 20:03 - Apr 1 with 4326 views | numptydumpty |
The big mistake was getting rid / not renewing Warburton s contract.
Said at time we will always be at least mid table championship with Mark in charge and it would be stupid to get rid.
We did and how has that gone since !!
We all know Les is on his way out now. That is a given I would assume.
Ainsworth will know decent league one pros who perform more consistently and think if we don't stay up that would be the plan.
If by some miracle we do stay up. Ainsworth will still be here and tbh would get in a lot of the decent league one pros he knows then also and hopefully our fee quality players pick up also and sure that's the position we now face.
Warnock was never going come back to a club where ultimately he wasn't respected towards end of his tenure by QPR hierarchy.
Who goes back to an employer who previously has shown you the door. Not many !!! [Post edited 2 Apr 2023 1:14]
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| Warnock on 20:33 - Apr 1 with 4215 views | Superhoops2808 |
Whilst I loved Warnock, for me we had an amount of consistency with Warburton and that was the HUGE mistake this board made by not renewing his contract. A lot of sides can be mid-table and every so often have a tilt at promotion. We had that with him, and all the work he put into the team over the last few years has been undone in a very short space of time  |  | | |
| Warnock on 20:35 - Apr 1 with 4202 views | Nov77 |
| Warnock on 20:03 - Apr 1 by numptydumpty |
The big mistake was getting rid / not renewing Warburton s contract.
Said at time we will always be at least mid table championship with Mark in charge and it would be stupid to get rid.
We did and how has that gone since !!
We all know Les is on his way out now. That is a given I would assume.
Ainsworth will know decent league one pros who perform more consistently and think if we don't stay up that would be the plan.
If by some miracle we do stay up. Ainsworth will still be here and tbh would get in a lot of the decent league one pros he knows then also and hopefully our fee quality players pick up also and sure that's the position we now face.
Warnock was never going come back to a club where ultimately he wasn't respected towards end of his tenure by QPR hierarchy.
Who goes back to an employer who previously has shown you the door. Not many !!! [Post edited 2 Apr 2023 1:14]
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Warnock said only recently that he would only come back for one of his old clubs , quote, “like qpr” |  |
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| Warnock on 22:24 - Apr 1 with 3995 views | numptydumpty |
| Warnock on 20:35 - Apr 1 by Nov77 |
Warnock said only recently that he would only come back for one of his old clubs , quote, “like qpr” |
Well that was a porkie pie I suggest !!!
Knows what to say and how to say it and to who also !!!
Art of management !!! | |
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| Warnock on 00:59 - Apr 2 with 3772 views | PunteR |
| Warnock on 18:16 - Apr 1 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I don’t disagree, but the thread leading up to Warnock’s sacking surfaced a little bit ago and it was 80% against. The greater lesson about the value of stability hasn’t been learned by neither the fans nor club. [Post edited 1 Apr 2023 18:17]
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Stop dragging fans into the mismanagement of our football club.
Yeh some stupid online thread mentioned something.. |  |
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| Warnock on 09:34 - Apr 2 with 3630 views | Rangersw12 |
| Warnock on 00:59 - Apr 2 by PunteR |
Stop dragging fans into the mismanagement of our football club.
Yeh some stupid online thread mentioned something.. |
Problem the board listen to the fans hence the sacking of Warnock
Even LF is worried about what the fans think when in reality we're the worst people to be listening to as we're too emotional and change opinions like the wind.
It's a ridiculous way to run a football club | | | |
| Warnock on 09:40 - Apr 2 with 3583 views | PunteR |
| Warnock on 09:34 - Apr 2 by Rangersw12 |
Problem the board listen to the fans hence the sacking of Warnock
Even LF is worried about what the fans think when in reality we're the worst people to be listening to as we're too emotional and change opinions like the wind.
It's a ridiculous way to run a football club |
I'm not sure they do mate.
I think Barton got in the ear of Fernandes regarding the Warnock sacking.
Warnock just didn't fit the Air Asia brand. | |
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| Warnock on 09:54 - Apr 2 with 3551 views | Rangersw12 |
| Warnock on 09:40 - Apr 2 by PunteR |
I'm not sure they do mate.
I think Barton got in the ear of Fernandes regarding the Warnock sacking.
Warnock just didn't fit the Air Asia brand. |
Barton probably didn't help but 6k fans at MK Don's singing " Premier league having a laugh" and countless people on twitter messaging TF saying get rid swayed the decision IMO | | | |
| Warnock on 13:24 - Apr 2 with 3384 views | PunteR |
| Warnock on 09:54 - Apr 2 by Rangersw12 |
Barton probably didn't help but 6k fans at MK Don's singing " Premier league having a laugh" and countless people on twitter messaging TF saying get rid swayed the decision IMO |
Yeh I guess that would have been a factor. | |
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| Warnock on 13:34 - Apr 2 with 3354 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Was watching the highlights last night. One down at half-time and they come out roaring at half-time, scoring within 20 seconds, them playing like dervishes to go 4-1 up. Motivated players playing with energy and passion against the form team in the division. Typical Warnock. | | | |
| Warnock on 13:45 - Apr 2 with 3357 views | MedwayR |
The board should just do the opposite of whatever decision they come to.
Spend money on 'big name' players like Green, Barton, SWP etc.
Appoint Hughes.
Appoint Redknapp.
Spend more money on 'big name' players like Ferdinand, Kranjcar, Fer etc.
Appoint Ferdinand.
Appoint Ramsey.
Appoint Hasselbaink.
Don't give BOS or Manning contract extensions.
Do give Hamalainen & Adomah contract extensions.
Don't sign Watkins, do sign Wheeler.
Don't sign Downes, do sign Dozzell.
Sack Warburton, don't appoint Eustace.
Say we don't want a turnover of half a dozen or so players each year, but have turnover of half a dozen or so players each year.
Rely heavily on loans each year.
Let managers sign their players.
Say we have a style of play and will appoint around that the ensure continuity, appoint Ainsworth.
It's like every decision they make, makes things worse. We need owners who know what they're doing instead of a DoF who doesn't. |  |
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| Warnock on 13:58 - Apr 2 with 3309 views | SK_hoops |
| Warnock on 13:45 - Apr 2 by MedwayR |
The board should just do the opposite of whatever decision they come to.
Spend money on 'big name' players like Green, Barton, SWP etc.
Appoint Hughes.
Appoint Redknapp.
Spend more money on 'big name' players like Ferdinand, Kranjcar, Fer etc.
Appoint Ferdinand.
Appoint Ramsey.
Appoint Hasselbaink.
Don't give BOS or Manning contract extensions.
Do give Hamalainen & Adomah contract extensions.
Don't sign Watkins, do sign Wheeler.
Don't sign Downes, do sign Dozzell.
Sack Warburton, don't appoint Eustace.
Say we don't want a turnover of half a dozen or so players each year, but have turnover of half a dozen or so players each year.
Rely heavily on loans each year.
Let managers sign their players.
Say we have a style of play and will appoint around that the ensure continuity, appoint Ainsworth.
It's like every decision they make, makes things worse. We need owners who know what they're doing instead of a DoF who doesn't. |
It's the football equivalent of how the haçienda was run in terms of poor decision making. | | | |
| Warnock on 14:16 - Apr 2 with 3272 views | Antti_Heinola |
Those who flooded this board wanting him out have all mysteriously gone - probably the same people who claim to have been at Rushden and Diamonds. It was a stupid error, Warnock should have been retained and arguably even retained had we gone down (which I think we probably would have done given how singularly fortunate we were to stay up).
But he only hangs as a ghost because fans can't let go. The reality is, 'Red Adair' as he calls himself is exactly that: a manager who can make a phenomenal short term impact. If you look at his career since us, it runs like this:
Leeds - 14 months, despised by their fans for what he did there.
Palace - 4 months, won 3 games in 17.
QPR - 4 games, where I think we scored 1 goal (2?), but certainly he steadied the ship.
Rotherham - 16 games, where he did a great job, losing just 6 in 16, to keep them up.
Cardiff - Phenomenal to get them promoted, but the same issues there as we had: it's odd: he's such a good manager that with the right blend he can get almost anyone up, but is unable to plan for the Prem or deal with the higher level of football, and once they came down it all ended quite pitifully and they've never recovered, partly because his success is usually built on experienced players, so once they start to age, there are big problems.
Boro - Can only really be seen as a poor show. Carrick since showing up both him and Wilder. Should have done a lot better with the resources he had there.
Huddersfield - taken some thumpings, but he'll keep them up.
Great manager, but there's a clear pattern in all of those jobs of a short term fix from Red Adair. This season that's what we need, but in my opinion, just because he was and is a better manager than every manager we've appointed since his last spell with us (Warbs had certain skills Warnock doesn't - it's a bit apples and oranges, but Warnock a better manager), at no time would he have been the 'right' long term appointment for us. The direction the club have wanted to go in was correct - even last Feb it looked like it was paying off - it's the execution that's been lacking. |  |
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| Warnock on 17:37 - Apr 2 with 3062 views | PinnerPaul |
Can't give my source, but it was very reliable, and you don't have to believe me, but Warnock hates both Les and Chris Ramsey - has no respect for either.
Not apportioning blame to anyone but that's the fact of the matter. | | | |
| Warnock on 21:40 - Apr 2 with 2841 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Warnock on 17:37 - Apr 2 by PinnerPaul |
Can't give my source, but it was very reliable, and you don't have to believe me, but Warnock hates both Les and Chris Ramsey - has no respect for either.
Not apportioning blame to anyone but that's the fact of the matter. |
Must have been a very eventful two months! | | | |
| Warnock on 21:49 - Apr 2 with 2807 views | daveB |
| Warnock on 20:03 - Apr 1 by numptydumpty |
The big mistake was getting rid / not renewing Warburton s contract.
Said at time we will always be at least mid table championship with Mark in charge and it would be stupid to get rid.
We did and how has that gone since !!
We all know Les is on his way out now. That is a given I would assume.
Ainsworth will know decent league one pros who perform more consistently and think if we don't stay up that would be the plan.
If by some miracle we do stay up. Ainsworth will still be here and tbh would get in a lot of the decent league one pros he knows then also and hopefully our fee quality players pick up also and sure that's the position we now face.
Warnock was never going come back to a club where ultimately he wasn't respected towards end of his tenure by QPR hierarchy.
Who goes back to an employer who previously has shown you the door. Not many !!! [Post edited 2 Apr 2023 1:14]
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If Warbs had stayed he'd have been sacked by Christmas, we were falling apart on his watch last season and he showed no sign of turning it around
Did a good job over the 3 years but was right decision to change last summer | | | |
| Warnock on 22:02 - Apr 2 with 2782 views | joe90 |
| Warnock on 17:37 - Apr 2 by PinnerPaul |
Can't give my source, but it was very reliable, and you don't have to believe me, but Warnock hates both Les and Chris Ramsey - has no respect for either.
Not apportioning blame to anyone but that's the fact of the matter. |
Do you know why he doesn’t like them and can you say? Just curious. |  | | |
| Warnock on 23:15 - Apr 2 with 2675 views | daveB |
| Warnock on 22:02 - Apr 2 by joe90 |
Do you know why he doesn’t like them and can you say? Just curious. |
probably because Les didn't give him the job when he said he didn't want it but actually did | | | |
| Warnock on 23:34 - Apr 2 with 2620 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warnock on 23:15 - Apr 2 by daveB |
probably because Les didn't give him the job when he said he didn't want it but actually did |
He also said publicly that he wanted the DoF job, while saying that he didn't want the manager's job.
Ferdinand is copping some grief now, some of it deserved and some of it not, but to blame Ferdinand for not hiring Warnock as manager when he had stated publicly that he didn't want that job and only wanted Ferdinand's job, and when there was open accusations about Warnock taking cash from players for subs appearances seems very harsh on Ferdinand. |  |
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| Warnock on 17:23 - Apr 5 with 2087 views | PinnerPaul |
| Warnock on 22:02 - Apr 2 by joe90 |
Do you know why he doesn’t like them and can you say? Just curious. |
No specific reason given for Les, thought Ramsey's team talks were a joke apparantly.
Source never used to go into great detail despite them being, or maybe because, they were a long standing friend of NW.
I suspect these 'feuds' are all over professional football - as I said I wasn't apportioning blame just explaining, that as it was told to me at the time, NW would never consider working with either again. | | | |
| Warnock on 17:29 - Apr 5 with 2045 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
‘Appointing Warnock at X time‘ is just one of many, many, magic bullets that has entered QPR folklore. | | | |
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