| Gaffer on Saturday on 18:39 - Apr 13 with 3522 views | Andybrat |
Great interview, interestingly he mentions Ilias and Taylor in the same breath but not Chris,
Need the noise on Saturday |  | |  |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 19:52 - Apr 13 with 3391 views | Logman |
Good interview. However, it leaves me a bit worried about tactics. Gazza doesn't really seem to do them, at least he certainly doesn't talk about them and I'm worried that Coventry will absorb the pressure and then hit us on the break. | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 20:14 - Apr 13 with 3356 views | E15Hoop |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 19:52 - Apr 13 by Logman |
Good interview. However, it leaves me a bit worried about tactics. Gazza doesn't really seem to do them, at least he certainly doesn't talk about them and I'm worried that Coventry will absorb the pressure and then hit us on the break. |
He knows Mark Robbins well, so I have no doubt he will have looked at what we will need to do to nullify their threats. That said, the onus is very much on us to be on the front foot, so my guess is that what we saw on Monday will largely be what we see again on Saturday. | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 08:58 - Apr 14 with 3035 views | NorthantsHoop |
If we score first expect us to win it, problem is we just don't know which QPR will turn up and going behind at home this season it has been a right old struggle. To be honest the 3 home games left will probably dictate whether we stay up or not. |  | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 09:00 - Apr 14 with 3025 views | Northernr |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 20:14 - Apr 13 by E15Hoop |
He knows Mark Robbins well, so I have no doubt he will have looked at what we will need to do to nullify their threats. That said, the onus is very much on us to be on the front foot, so my guess is that what we saw on Monday will largely be what we see again on Saturday. |
Word of advice, don't check his record v Cov and/or Robins. |  | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 09:09 - Apr 14 with 2986 views | ted_hendrix |
Heard It all before, usual boring claptrap. |  |
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| Gaffer on Saturday on 10:37 - Apr 14 with 2895 views | E15Hoop |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 09:00 - Apr 14 by Northernr |
Word of advice, don't check his record v Cov and/or Robins. |
Ahh...  | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:12 - Apr 14 with 2787 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
So to be clear….
Critchley was too dour
Ainsworth was too OTT |  | | |
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| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:16 - Apr 14 with 2768 views | Northernr |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:12 - Apr 14 by BazzaInTheLoft |
So to be clear….
Critchley was too dour
Ainsworth was too OTT |
Remember this time last year when there was a weekly thread on Warburton being too repetitive and I said you won't like the next guy's interviews, team selections or substitutions either?
Let's look in again in 12 months. | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:28 - Apr 14 with 2721 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:16 - Apr 14 by Northernr |
Remember this time last year when there was a weekly thread on Warburton being too repetitive and I said you won't like the next guy's interviews, team selections or substitutions either?
Let's look in again in 12 months. |
Initially everyone loved Beale's 'refreshing honesty' I seem to remember ;) |  |
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| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:33 - Apr 14 with 2701 views | dmm |
I always watch the prematch interviews but really only for news on player availability. The rest is pretty much the same whichever manager/coach is giving it. And, as has been said many times before, there's only so much someone can actually say about a football match that has yet to be played. |  | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:36 - Apr 14 with 2687 views | Northernr |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:28 - Apr 14 by Antti_Heinola |
Initially everyone loved Beale's 'refreshing honesty' I seem to remember ;) |
Warbs' too. "A breath of fresh air". Tends to last about three defeats. | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 12:21 - Apr 14 with 2589 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:36 - Apr 14 by Northernr |
Warbs' too. "A breath of fresh air". Tends to last about three defeats. |
Even Critchley was 'refreshingly' honest. |  |
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| Gaffer on Saturday on 12:28 - Apr 14 with 2550 views | eastside_r |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:33 - Apr 14 by dmm |
I always watch the prematch interviews but really only for news on player availability. The rest is pretty much the same whichever manager/coach is giving it. And, as has been said many times before, there's only so much someone can actually say about a football match that has yet to be played. |
Can’t remember the last time I listened to the official pre or post-match interviews (early Warburton?) I find them pointlessly vacuous.
I am not going to start again for Ainsworth, even though I like him.
Will always listen to Clive’s Patreon interview though. |  | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 12:29 - Apr 14 with 2536 views | E15Hoop |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 12:21 - Apr 14 by CroydonCaptJack |
Even Critchley was 'refreshingly' honest. |
On this subject, I feel no-one says it better than Billy Joel:
Honesty is such a lonely word
Everyone is so untrue
Honesty is hardly ever heard
And mostly what I need from you
(So long as it only includes the parts of the truth I actually want to hear...) | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 12:47 - Apr 14 with 2470 views | Northernr |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 12:21 - Apr 14 by CroydonCaptJack |
Even Critchley was 'refreshingly' honest. |
TBF, a couple of times he was. Players didn't like that. | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 12:53 - Apr 14 with 2452 views | E15Hoop |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 12:47 - Apr 14 by Northernr |
TBF, a couple of times he was. Players didn't like that. |
See.. Billy Joel was a fly on our dressing room wall! | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 13:38 - Apr 14 with 2327 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 12:47 - Apr 14 by Northernr |
TBF, a couple of times he was. Players didn't like that. |
Hmm.
Got to say, a lot has been written about this, and while the players have, baldly, failed this year, I felt his comments after the Fleetwood game were naive at best and stupid at worst, crowd-pleasing as they were. Essentially saying, 'yeah, i thought this lot were a bunch of losers, and now I know I'm right', a week or two after sending them out to defend their way to a 0-0 at a pathetic Cardiff team seemed a mite disingenuous to me, and I can't really see what he sought to gain from it. I guess he wanted a 'we'll show you' sort of reaction, but he'd only been in the job a few games: is that the environment you want to create that early on? Have you earned their trust at that point to the degree in which you will gain from saying it? I think if you've been in the job a while, the players respect you and trust you as a coach, you can do that. I don't think you can do it after a few games.
Equally, his 'when we scored I turned and said 'that's the worst thing that could happen' was a nonsense. Had it happened just *after* half time, maybe. The implication was that he needed to buck them up at HT, but the goal came before half time, so his messaging should have been the same whether we had scored or not. I found his thinking very confused at best and blame-shifting at worst.
I know some fans like it, and I know there was truth to some of what he said, but throughout his time I felt what he said was pretty damaging to the squad. Maybe he felt there was no chance of relegation and it didn't matter because he'd overhaul in the summer, but if he did, again, that was extremely poor management.
Cue 'poor loves' response, which I do have sympathy with, but equally, you can shout that all you like but as a manager, you HAVE to work out how to get the best out of your squad regardless of their mindset. People say 'it's not about the manager', but it really is. Warnock would never have said stuff like that publicly. Other managers said equally disparaging things about Taarabt. They failed with him. Yes he has to take responsibility too, but it's a faiuliure of management. And when Warnock came in, he succeeded. | |
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| Gaffer on Saturday on 13:46 - Apr 14 with 2294 views | Northernr |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 13:38 - Apr 14 by Antti_Heinola |
Hmm.
Got to say, a lot has been written about this, and while the players have, baldly, failed this year, I felt his comments after the Fleetwood game were naive at best and stupid at worst, crowd-pleasing as they were. Essentially saying, 'yeah, i thought this lot were a bunch of losers, and now I know I'm right', a week or two after sending them out to defend their way to a 0-0 at a pathetic Cardiff team seemed a mite disingenuous to me, and I can't really see what he sought to gain from it. I guess he wanted a 'we'll show you' sort of reaction, but he'd only been in the job a few games: is that the environment you want to create that early on? Have you earned their trust at that point to the degree in which you will gain from saying it? I think if you've been in the job a while, the players respect you and trust you as a coach, you can do that. I don't think you can do it after a few games.
Equally, his 'when we scored I turned and said 'that's the worst thing that could happen' was a nonsense. Had it happened just *after* half time, maybe. The implication was that he needed to buck them up at HT, but the goal came before half time, so his messaging should have been the same whether we had scored or not. I found his thinking very confused at best and blame-shifting at worst.
I know some fans like it, and I know there was truth to some of what he said, but throughout his time I felt what he said was pretty damaging to the squad. Maybe he felt there was no chance of relegation and it didn't matter because he'd overhaul in the summer, but if he did, again, that was extremely poor management.
Cue 'poor loves' response, which I do have sympathy with, but equally, you can shout that all you like but as a manager, you HAVE to work out how to get the best out of your squad regardless of their mindset. People say 'it's not about the manager', but it really is. Warnock would never have said stuff like that publicly. Other managers said equally disparaging things about Taarabt. They failed with him. Yes he has to take responsibility too, but it's a faiuliure of management. And when Warnock came in, he succeeded. |
I agree with some of that, and would never pretend that Critchley did a good job here.
You have got to work with what you've got, but they'd been losing consistently for a year by that point, under two different managers, so he tried something different to get a response and didn't get it.
As you'd expect disagree with a fair bit as well, but I hold my hands up fully to the fact that may be because I've long since given up on these players, hate many of them as individuals, am sick of watching them play and hearing their snivelling, whining excuses and "we go again" bullsht and quite enjoyed somebody actually speaking the truth about them rather than gaslighting us all about how much they really do care and brow beating the fans into being ever more supportive which with this bunch I reckon is almost every bit as pointless as abusing them. | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 13:47 - Apr 14 with 2293 views | PhilmyRs |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 13:38 - Apr 14 by Antti_Heinola |
Hmm.
Got to say, a lot has been written about this, and while the players have, baldly, failed this year, I felt his comments after the Fleetwood game were naive at best and stupid at worst, crowd-pleasing as they were. Essentially saying, 'yeah, i thought this lot were a bunch of losers, and now I know I'm right', a week or two after sending them out to defend their way to a 0-0 at a pathetic Cardiff team seemed a mite disingenuous to me, and I can't really see what he sought to gain from it. I guess he wanted a 'we'll show you' sort of reaction, but he'd only been in the job a few games: is that the environment you want to create that early on? Have you earned their trust at that point to the degree in which you will gain from saying it? I think if you've been in the job a while, the players respect you and trust you as a coach, you can do that. I don't think you can do it after a few games.
Equally, his 'when we scored I turned and said 'that's the worst thing that could happen' was a nonsense. Had it happened just *after* half time, maybe. The implication was that he needed to buck them up at HT, but the goal came before half time, so his messaging should have been the same whether we had scored or not. I found his thinking very confused at best and blame-shifting at worst.
I know some fans like it, and I know there was truth to some of what he said, but throughout his time I felt what he said was pretty damaging to the squad. Maybe he felt there was no chance of relegation and it didn't matter because he'd overhaul in the summer, but if he did, again, that was extremely poor management.
Cue 'poor loves' response, which I do have sympathy with, but equally, you can shout that all you like but as a manager, you HAVE to work out how to get the best out of your squad regardless of their mindset. People say 'it's not about the manager', but it really is. Warnock would never have said stuff like that publicly. Other managers said equally disparaging things about Taarabt. They failed with him. Yes he has to take responsibility too, but it's a faiuliure of management. And when Warnock came in, he succeeded. |
I also thought he went in early on the players after Fleetwood and played to the crowd a bit, possibly to relieve a bit of pressure on himself but does run the risk of players revolting in some way. Don't get me wrong, think they deserved it after that performance but I would have played it differently. Interestingly in the Ainsworth interview he makes a big point about the players working him out, taking their time to suss him out and vice versa which I'd say has probably put him in a better position to deliver a Critchley type rant I don't think Critchley ever got to that position because he teed off too early. | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 14:01 - Apr 14 with 2238 views | Northernr |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 13:47 - Apr 14 by PhilmyRs |
I also thought he went in early on the players after Fleetwood and played to the crowd a bit, possibly to relieve a bit of pressure on himself but does run the risk of players revolting in some way. Don't get me wrong, think they deserved it after that performance but I would have played it differently. Interestingly in the Ainsworth interview he makes a big point about the players working him out, taking their time to suss him out and vice versa which I'd say has probably put him in a better position to deliver a Critchley type rant I don't think Critchley ever got to that position because he teed off too early. |
Saint Mick teed off on them after Charlton, another cup game, which was only three games into the season and his reign, and they chose to respond very differently.
We go round and round on here about various theories and what's gone wrong etc and while of course there are all the structural problems with the club that I did in the preview last week, for me it very often comes back to a lot of our players are dicks.
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| Gaffer on Saturday on 14:21 - Apr 14 with 2153 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 14:01 - Apr 14 by Northernr |
Saint Mick teed off on them after Charlton, another cup game, which was only three games into the season and his reign, and they chose to respond very differently.
We go round and round on here about various theories and what's gone wrong etc and while of course there are all the structural problems with the club that I did in the preview last week, for me it very often comes back to a lot of our players are dicks.
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Yep, you may be right, although Mick had had a full pre-season with them, so slightly different scenario I'd argue.
You may also be right about the players, but are these the same ones you so often called 'lovely boys' for years, and how likeable they were, and if anything, were far too nice - because the bulk of them are the same people? Or are we talking about the new lads? Or older lads having a bit of a change in their outlook/personality?
We won 4 out of 14 end of last season, and that was a very poor run, but at no point did I think they had stopped working or caring or playing for the manager, for example. | |
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| Gaffer on Saturday on 14:23 - Apr 14 with 2143 views | Northernr |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 14:21 - Apr 14 by Antti_Heinola |
Yep, you may be right, although Mick had had a full pre-season with them, so slightly different scenario I'd argue.
You may also be right about the players, but are these the same ones you so often called 'lovely boys' for years, and how likeable they were, and if anything, were far too nice - because the bulk of them are the same people? Or are we talking about the new lads? Or older lads having a bit of a change in their outlook/personality?
We won 4 out of 14 end of last season, and that was a very poor run, but at no point did I think they had stopped working or caring or playing for the manager, for example. |
1 - I talk a lot of sht.
2 - Ten new players this season, basically a whole new team. | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 14:48 - Apr 14 with 2066 views | PinnerPaul |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 13:38 - Apr 14 by Antti_Heinola |
Hmm.
Got to say, a lot has been written about this, and while the players have, baldly, failed this year, I felt his comments after the Fleetwood game were naive at best and stupid at worst, crowd-pleasing as they were. Essentially saying, 'yeah, i thought this lot were a bunch of losers, and now I know I'm right', a week or two after sending them out to defend their way to a 0-0 at a pathetic Cardiff team seemed a mite disingenuous to me, and I can't really see what he sought to gain from it. I guess he wanted a 'we'll show you' sort of reaction, but he'd only been in the job a few games: is that the environment you want to create that early on? Have you earned their trust at that point to the degree in which you will gain from saying it? I think if you've been in the job a while, the players respect you and trust you as a coach, you can do that. I don't think you can do it after a few games.
Equally, his 'when we scored I turned and said 'that's the worst thing that could happen' was a nonsense. Had it happened just *after* half time, maybe. The implication was that he needed to buck them up at HT, but the goal came before half time, so his messaging should have been the same whether we had scored or not. I found his thinking very confused at best and blame-shifting at worst.
I know some fans like it, and I know there was truth to some of what he said, but throughout his time I felt what he said was pretty damaging to the squad. Maybe he felt there was no chance of relegation and it didn't matter because he'd overhaul in the summer, but if he did, again, that was extremely poor management.
Cue 'poor loves' response, which I do have sympathy with, but equally, you can shout that all you like but as a manager, you HAVE to work out how to get the best out of your squad regardless of their mindset. People say 'it's not about the manager', but it really is. Warnock would never have said stuff like that publicly. Other managers said equally disparaging things about Taarabt. They failed with him. Yes he has to take responsibility too, but it's a faiuliure of management. And when Warnock came in, he succeeded. |
NW DID shout out Faurlin once - said he should have fouled oppo player on the way to us conceding - remember that didn't go down well with the fans either.
Heard him say a few times - "That was Sunday league stuff" about goals his sides have conceded.
Personal view but we're back in the land where NW NEVER says or does anything wrong - but as I say that's probably just me! | | | |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 14:59 - Apr 14 with 2002 views | DannyPaddox |
| Gaffer on Saturday on 11:28 - Apr 14 by Antti_Heinola |
Initially everyone loved Beale's 'refreshing honesty' I seem to remember ;) |
For the record I never did. I saw him as a snivelling whiny Chels from day 1. He was a talker but to me it was smoke and mirrors and reinventing the wheel. Even when we had those 3 seconds at the top of the league I never warmed to him. Never expected it to play out like it did though. Absolute wånker. |  | | |
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