| Grammar 10:30 - Sep 3 with 10053 views | Petros |
Anyone have strong views about the use of the singular when talking about football teams? Eg Liverpool is at home to ... (Also music bands: Led Zeppelin has a new album out.)
It's an Americanism of course.
Hate it. |  | | |  |
| Grammar on 12:46 - Sep 3 with 1667 views | flynnbo |
| Grammar on 12:40 - Sep 3 by TheChef |
Yeah that one was raised on the radio the other day and I was like what the fark is that all about??
Final proof that the world is off its rocker. |
"Should of"
"Could have went" |  | | |
| Grammar on 12:48 - Sep 3 with 1666 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Grammar on 12:44 - Sep 3 by BklynRanger |
Important to differentiate here though I think :
1. Americanisms taking over and replacing existing domestic English = bad - No need at all for us to speak the same on both sides of the Atlantic, just laziness and the creeping influence of social media, idiots etc etc, fully justifiable bah humbug - does my head in too.
2. Americans speaking in their own way over there or on our colour television sets = up to them - plenty of irritating phrases used over here in our own domestic phrases tbh, in my humble opinion.... |
True that. |  |
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| Grammar on 12:53 - Sep 3 with 1656 views | Esox_Lucius |
My most recent grammatical peeve is getting foot fetishists confused with underage children lovers. |  |
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| Grammar on 12:56 - Sep 3 with 1650 views | Nov77 |
Was on a bus once sitting behind an American couple for whom speaking seemed to trigger chronic fatigue syndrome.
The conversation, such as it was, went roughly as follows....
That was like.....
And she was like.....
And then at the end I was like....
I never found out what any of it was ‘like’ as that was where their sentences ended.
Didn’t know if they’d been for a meal, or to the theatre, all I know is it was like..... |  |
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| Grammar on 12:57 - Sep 3 with 1645 views | PinnerPaul |
| Grammar on 12:22 - Sep 3 by RangersDave |
'referees assistant' my arse |
Its 'referee's assistant my arse' actually!  | | | |
| Grammar on 13:13 - Sep 3 with 1612 views | SonofNorfolt |
I'm pleased with the original post as I actually thought it was my bad.
This has only appeared in the last couple of years and as someone who tries to write, it was increasingly bothering me.
Absolutely.
Whilst we are on topic, it is the letter 'H'
Aitch not Haitch.
Chlorinated chicken eating w ankers. [Post edited 3 Sep 2020 13:18]
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| Grammar on 13:21 - Sep 3 with 1596 views | A40Bosh |
| Grammar on 12:56 - Sep 3 by Nov77 |
Was on a bus once sitting behind an American couple for whom speaking seemed to trigger chronic fatigue syndrome.
The conversation, such as it was, went roughly as follows....
That was like.....
And she was like.....
And then at the end I was like....
I never found out what any of it was ‘like’ as that was where their sentences ended.
Didn’t know if they’d been for a meal, or to the theatre, all I know is it was like..... |
If they had chronic fatigue syndrome they would not have been on the bus.
They would likely be in bed - let's not trivialise a VERY debilitating illness
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| Grammar on 13:54 - Sep 3 with 1558 views | R_from_afar |
Fear not, I will keep you *across* any poor uses of the English language 
Have you noticed the epidemic of unnecessary prepositions? e.g. "Change it up" 
No, just "change it". |  |
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| Grammar on 13:57 - Sep 3 with 1547 views | eghamranger |
100%..... 😡 |  | | |
| Grammar on 14:00 - Sep 3 with 1539 views | stowmarketrange |
Yeah no.Everybody interviewed now seems to start every sentence with this nonsense. |  | | |
| Grammar on 14:02 - Sep 3 with 1532 views | derbyhoop |
Using of instead of have.
I would of thought its easy to get right. |  |
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| Grammar on 14:04 - Sep 3 with 1529 views | loftboy |
| Grammar on 14:00 - Sep 3 by stowmarketrange |
Yeah no.Everybody interviewed now seems to start every sentence with this nonsense. |
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| Grammar on 14:19 - Sep 3 with 1501 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Grammar on 12:12 - Sep 3 by A40Bosh |
"I'm goin' Uxbridge this afternoon"
"No, you are goinG TO Uxbridge this afternoon" |
Fun (alleged) fact:
Apparently the "g" at the end of "ing" used to be silent. Then dictionaries were invented and the middle classes saw that there was a g at the end and started pronouncing it. Working class people didn't have dictionaries so didn't, which made middle class people all the more careful to pronounce it and avoid being common. But the aristocracy didn't give a toss what anyone thought and carried on saying huntin', shootin' and fishin'.
No idea if that's actually true (and my guess is that the g was pronounced at one time or it wouldn't have been there) but it does seem like the way the English class system works! | | | |
| Grammar on 14:26 - Sep 3 with 1491 views | Newhopphoops |
| Grammar on 14:19 - Sep 3 by CiderwithRsie |
Fun (alleged) fact:
Apparently the "g" at the end of "ing" used to be silent. Then dictionaries were invented and the middle classes saw that there was a g at the end and started pronouncing it. Working class people didn't have dictionaries so didn't, which made middle class people all the more careful to pronounce it and avoid being common. But the aristocracy didn't give a toss what anyone thought and carried on saying huntin', shootin' and fishin'.
No idea if that's actually true (and my guess is that the g was pronounced at one time or it wouldn't have been there) but it does seem like the way the English class system works! |
That's why people use slither when they mean sliver, they're scared of sounding like an oik. |  | | |
| Grammar on 14:26 - Sep 3 with 1490 views | CiderwithRsie |
The one that niggles me with sports teams is the use of the noun in the team name as an adjective, or more accurately a refusal to use the adjective - e.g. "the England fielding has been poor" is used but never "the English fielding has been poor."
I've noticed that overseas commentators have no problem with "English" - I actually think it is due to embarrassment at talking about "the English" when KP and Jonathon Trott were batting together. | | | |
| Grammar on 14:28 - Sep 3 with 1489 views | kernowhoop |
| Grammar on 12:31 - Sep 3 by BrianMcCarthy |
The modern Americanism "speaks to".
The amount of goals conceded speaks to how poor our defence was last year.
Whatever happened to "shows" or "demonstrates". |
'Amount'?
Isn't it the 'number' of goals? They can be counted.
While we are on the subject of goals, do you get irritated when certain commentators name the goalkeeper and say that he is 'in goals'. I also heard Hoddle say 'He's cut it across goals'. What is that all about? | | | |
| Grammar on 14:44 - Sep 3 with 1479 views | MickS |
| Grammar on 14:04 - Sep 3 by loftboy |
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Wrong thread mate   | | | |
| Grammar on 14:44 - Sep 3 with 1476 views | flynnbo |
How are you?
I'm good.
A good what?
Should be an adverb such as "well" instead of an adjective. I'm well.
However, language is always evolving. | | | |
| Grammar on 15:02 - Sep 3 with 1457 views | 18StoneOfHoop |
Can we unpick and double down on the narrative?
Most common grammar mistake on these boards?
Should HAVE is correct
Should OF is not FFS! |  |
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Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please. |
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| Grammar on 15:06 - Sep 3 with 1453 views | DiggertheMole |
| Grammar on 11:28 - Sep 3 by eghamranger |
“ can I get a ??????”
NO.....“ please can I have a ??????”
My bad |
Always "May I have a ...?".
Never "Can I get a ... ?" | | | |
| Grammar on 15:13 - Sep 3 with 1436 views | Boston |
| Grammar on 11:00 - Sep 3 by BklynRanger |
Don't think that is an Americanism tbh - speaking as a non American who spent years avoiding certain phrases I never came across that one.
They might say 'Phoenix travel to Wichita in the first round of the Glen Campbell Classic' or 'Phoenix are at South Bend in the Semi-Final of the Toilet Bowl' but never came across much of that 'is' stuff used in the way you deeescribe. |
Correctomundo sir. Americans would not use those words in that manner. | |
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| Grammar on 15:23 - Sep 3 with 1415 views | EmpireStateRanger |
You guys would hate chatting with me in person!
On the subject, I was taught in journalism classes to refer as single entities aside from nicknames.
Ex. “New York takes on Dallas” vs. “The Giants take on the Cowboys” | | | |
| Grammar on 15:27 - Sep 3 with 1410 views | Boston |
The English language, as used in the United States, is heavily influenced by the vast numbers of people who have come to the country from places which speak a different tongue. That scenario is now playing out in Britain. I’m not overly concerned myself as long as it’s intelligible, though I have found that a greater command of English usually equates with a greater return of money. | |
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| Grammar on 15:46 - Sep 3 with 1381 views | 100percent |
| Grammar on 12:29 - Sep 3 by DavieQPR |
I used to live in Borehamstiff. If you entered from one end the roadsign said Borehamwood but if you entered from the other side it said Boreham Wood. It was originally known as Boreham Wood Common. Also the football team is known as Boreham Wood. The two word spelling is still used by the older folk. The one word spelling goes back to the 70's. |
I live at the edge of Borehamwood in a place call Well End. My kids like to call it Bell End. Not sure if that's one word or two words - bellend or bell end.
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