| Major FFP Reforms coming 11:36 - Mar 12 with 13140 views | QPRConor2000 |
Not sure if anyone has seen this, but the PL are replacing the current PSR rules in the PL with new rules based on UEFAs new squad cost ratio.
This new rule would basically mean teams not competing in Europe are limited to spending 85% of their income on player wages, transfers along with agents fees, those in Europe will be limited to 70 percent.
I expect we will see these changes in the Championship as well. |  | | |  |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 16:35 - Mar 12 with 3508 views | Juzzie |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 15:38 - Mar 12 by Welsh_Ranger |
This is where our academy needs to start producing. It's a topic done to death(i'm aware) but if the first team has a competitive mix of youth, senior pros and some up and coming lower league players you have a great balance and will ultimately reduce your payroll.
Possibly changing the structure of the players contracts could help as well - a bit FM/CM but weighting the contracts more to appearances/goals/assists/clean sheets.
I'm hoping our fresh new CEO is doing a root and branch study of the club and the behind the scenes is identifying ways to streamline and structure us better off the pitch. As Clive has said on countless occasions we are behind the curve on the money we can generate from sponsorship, see Stoke/BET365 for example.
Also, if we have a smaller 1st team we supplement it with the best young Pros coming through from the youth team. |
BET365 effectively own Stoke so it's more than just a normal sponsorship but I get where you're coming from though I'm not sure what we meaningfully have left to sponsor. The ground and all four stands are now done. |  | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 17:24 - Mar 12 with 3380 views | GaryT |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 13:32 - Mar 12 by TheChef |
Don't understand why they just don't let them go and get on it. Not as if they're sharing their wealth down for the greater good, what is there to lose? Fck em! |
Yeah, a breakaway super-league will take a lot of the TV money with it and with less money for the remaining Premier League teams, this would close the gap between the divisions and give everyone a better shot at winning the league.
I won't be too sad to see the Bertie big bollox clubs bugger off and it might also reignite some interest in the League and FA Cup. [Post edited 12 Mar 17:27]
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| Major FFP Reforms coming on 18:01 - Mar 12 with 3299 views | R_from_afar |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 14:23 - Mar 12 by TheChef |
Exactly. I can't see any downside of letting the Top 6 (or whoever) bugger off to their European Super League and let the rest of us enjoy a decent competitive domestic league. |
Look, I personally wouldn't care if the top six joined a European super league - the Prem would be more interesting without them - but my point is that the Premier League and its overseas counterparts aren't going to let their crown jewels join a rival league, taking all those juicy revenue streams with them, without a real fight.
I would be happy for it to happen, the existing football authorities will fight it, though. That's my position. |  |
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| Major FFP Reforms coming on 18:41 - Mar 12 with 3210 views | switchingcode |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 17:24 - Mar 12 by GaryT |
Yeah, a breakaway super-league will take a lot of the TV money with it and with less money for the remaining Premier League teams, this would close the gap between the divisions and give everyone a better shot at winning the league.
I won't be too sad to see the Bertie big bollox clubs bugger off and it might also reignite some interest in the League and FA Cup. [Post edited 12 Mar 17:27]
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I never lose sight of the fact my club gets over 120 mill a season from the TV revenue that the Premier league are able to pay due to the attraction of the top teams like City Liverpool ect.Doubt if Brentford v Bournmouth attracts much interest around the world but then again without us peasants they wouldn’t have a league to play in and win.
I would love the so called elite clubs and players piss off and play with the European
League but sadly won’t happen and the new rules the PL will be introducing next season will make the rich clubs even more secure in the league and the rest of the clubs in the Efl and PL will just have to wait their turn to have a stint in this most boring league in the world. | | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 18:49 - Mar 12 with 3201 views | derbyhoop |
Championship clubs, just like PL, are over dependent on TV revenues. The revenue is largely driven by the bog name clubs and tricles down the Leagues.
If the top 6 broke away every club in the league would need to adjust its finances. A 90% salary cap, dropping to 70% might mean EFL clubs would be more sustainable. |  |
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| Major FFP Reforms coming on 19:11 - Mar 12 with 3148 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 12:27 - Mar 12 by sprocket |
Players, agents, club staff get paid too much and need to rein it in. That will result in big clubs dominating, getting more revenue and ultimately become profitable. It will mean that clubs like QPR, who have rich owners are unable to spend and will ultimately continue to lose money hand over fist and eventually walk away. We have been extremely lucky to have owners who are willing to spend 3-400m to keep QPR going. Mad. |
Yeah but we lose money because of our owners incompetence over the past decade…. |  |
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| Major FFP Reforms coming on 07:29 - Mar 13 with 2914 views | Paddyhoops |
Peter Risdale putting the case for the EFL on 5 live this morning.
The man who nearly bankrupted Leeds . F**k me . Is that the best they can do ! | | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 08:05 - Mar 13 with 2865 views | daveB |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 19:11 - Mar 12 by Northolt_Rs |
Yeah but we lose money because of our owners incompetence over the past decade…. |
They certainly did but a lot of luck involved in all this, never an exact science
Villa got very lucky after spending a fortune on lots of crap after going up, just about survived after goal line technology failed in a game and now in the champions league places
Several of those signings in both prem spells could have gone the other way. Likes of Mbia, Wright-Phillips, Caulker, Isla, Vargas, Fer etc all looked very good signings on paper and at the time but never really worked out
Win at Spurs under Hughes when on top we take a different path, hold on against Swansea under Redknapp and open up a gap to the bottom, loads of factors
Owners obviously incompetent but also very unlucky |  | | |
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| Major FFP Reforms coming on 09:37 - Mar 14 with 2496 views | JacksonQPR |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 14:23 - Mar 12 by TheChef |
Exactly. I can't see any downside of letting the Top 6 (or whoever) bugger off to their European Super League and let the rest of us enjoy a decent competitive domestic league. |
Bunch of waffle this mate. If people just want a competitive domestic league, league 2 would be the most popular league in England. The premier league is so popular because its the best players and teams in the world and England competing. Who would care about the prem if Brighton and Bournemouth were fighting for the title? I personally couldn't give a shit if we came 10th in a washed up, post big 6, premier league. Why do you think you want us to get promoted, for away days at luton? The allure of the prem is it being the best league in the world, why ruin that for some greedy bastards. [Post edited 14 Mar 9:42]
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| Major FFP Reforms coming on 09:57 - Mar 14 with 2458 views | dmm |
The greedy bastards are the Premier League chiefs who make sure their product is protected and promoted to the detriment of the leagues below them. They've presided over the worst changes in football history.
I, and a great many other football supporters, are quite happy to stay out of it. |  | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 10:15 - Mar 14 with 2420 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
It was revealing who the ten clubs voting against the EFL funding deal were - including Liverpool (while complaining about the Tories being selfish bastards), Arsenal (pulling the ladder up after their dodgy promotion in 1919), Chelsea (obviously) and the likes of Palace and Bournemouth, which is just beyond parody. Fair play to Brentford for not being one of them. [Post edited 14 Mar 10:16]
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| Major FFP Reforms coming on 10:34 - Mar 14 with 2402 views | daveB |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 10:15 - Mar 14 by Wegerles_Stairs |
It was revealing who the ten clubs voting against the EFL funding deal were - including Liverpool (while complaining about the Tories being selfish bastards), Arsenal (pulling the ladder up after their dodgy promotion in 1919), Chelsea (obviously) and the likes of Palace and Bournemouth, which is just beyond parody. Fair play to Brentford for not being one of them. [Post edited 14 Mar 10:16]
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Part of it was no more parachute payments which is why Forest and Bournemouth said no as they will need those one day | | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 10:40 - Mar 14 with 2385 views | Northernr |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 10:15 - Mar 14 by Wegerles_Stairs |
It was revealing who the ten clubs voting against the EFL funding deal were - including Liverpool (while complaining about the Tories being selfish bastards), Arsenal (pulling the ladder up after their dodgy promotion in 1919), Chelsea (obviously) and the likes of Palace and Bournemouth, which is just beyond parody. Fair play to Brentford for not being one of them. [Post edited 14 Mar 10:16]
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Liverpool are absolutely shameless aren't they?
I enjoyed Klopp bitching and moaning about the midweek FA Cup round, which is only midweek because he bitched and moaned about having a poxy winter break so they can go play friendlies in Dubai. |  | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 11:10 - Mar 14 with 2331 views | rbee |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 12:48 - Mar 12 by PlanetHonneywood |
Without wishing to reignite a well worn debate, we've also been very unlucky to have owners on two occasions who've spunked large and comparable sums respectively,
and been effing useless to boot!
That's ultimately why we are where we are. |
Owner John, owner, Tony Fernandes.
We should judge Ruben Gnanalingam and his father from the moment they became majority shareholders not before. |  | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 11:46 - Mar 14 with 2254 views | switchingcode |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 10:34 - Mar 14 by daveB |
Part of it was no more parachute payments which is why Forest and Bournemouth said no as they will need those one day |
Almost certainly Brentford will too. | | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 13:09 - Mar 14 with 2137 views | TheChef |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 09:37 - Mar 14 by JacksonQPR |
Bunch of waffle this mate. If people just want a competitive domestic league, league 2 would be the most popular league in England. The premier league is so popular because its the best players and teams in the world and England competing. Who would care about the prem if Brighton and Bournemouth were fighting for the title? I personally couldn't give a shit if we came 10th in a washed up, post big 6, premier league. Why do you think you want us to get promoted, for away days at luton? The allure of the prem is it being the best league in the world, why ruin that for some greedy bastards. [Post edited 14 Mar 9:42]
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Sorry mate I don't agree.
You sound like someone who only knows of football since 1992.
I'm just asking for a relatively level playing field. I'm not living in thrall to plucky little QPR getting the chance to play at oh so mighty City, United, Liverpool etc. Honestly couldn't give a fck. |  |
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| Major FFP Reforms coming on 14:50 - Mar 14 with 2008 views | richpr |
Ridiculous that PL don't pay more to the EFL.
If they don't, it will end up with a super league with mid-table PL teams left out of it.
Scrap the parachute payments - always thought this was a ludicrous idea. It has led to what we have now - the 3 teams that get promoted, get relegated the next year. Eventually, it will be the same 6 teams every year.
EFL should ban loans from PL clubs - EFL clubs just giving PL youth players a platform to get better while at the same time paying some/all of their wages. Eventually the youth or decent squad players will have to leave if the PL continue to just play.
Force PL teams to pay a levy % on any players signed from EFL which goes to all EFL clubs (maybe wighted in favour of lower EFL teams).
EFL introduce wage cap and make ticket prices the same at all grounds (relative to league).
EFL arrange their own TV deal + have deal with Terrestial TV
I would love to watch the EFL on MotD while PL are all playing to their corporate and mega-rich audience in Saudi.
Having spouted all the above rubbish, I have enjoyed the MC games. Rs attendances, support and atmosphere at LR has been better this year than the last 4/5 years. | | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 15:25 - Mar 14 with 1972 views | QPRConor2000 |
I dont see Parachute Payments being scrapped, but maybe instead of it being over 3 years, they could do it so they only get it for a year.
Whilst its not perfect, it would be a big improvement.
Also I expect there will be new FFP rules in the Championship in the not too distant future to align with the PL. | | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 20:00 - Mar 14 with 1877 views | TGRRRSSS |
Am I right in thinking most of the 10 have american ownership in some form, besides Spurs |  | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 20:17 - Mar 14 with 1850 views | Tonto |
A sig if can't part of the issue is the distribution of the money when it comes es in... the palywrs. Player wages are absolutely obscene. Look I get that a football career is short but £100k a week? And that's the bang average players in the premiership
And why? The big clubs drive up the wages becuase other big clubs are scared that other teams may nick their players? But it filters down into the lower leagues.
There should be a maximum wage IMO. Or wages should be 50% of the average income of the whole league or a salary cap.like in The NFL.. plenty of examples better than the unfettered bollocks we have now. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 09:13 - Mar 15 with 1703 views | BostonR |
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| Major FFP Reforms coming on 10:02 - Mar 15 with 1609 views | BostonR |
The Championship clubs should refuse to play the three relegated PL clubs. Football is eating itself. | | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 10:22 - Mar 15 with 1570 views | lassel |
Shocking news from the Shires, where self proclaimed ‘socialist’ club Liverpool who insist ‘you’ll never walk alone’ have decided to let the FL walk alike by voting against proposals to increase funding from the PL to FL.
Manchester City who are ‘ruining football’ noticeable voting for the proposal… | | | |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 15:29 - Mar 15 with 1421 views | kensalriser |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 10:22 - Mar 15 by lassel |
Shocking news from the Shires, where self proclaimed ‘socialist’ club Liverpool who insist ‘you’ll never walk alone’ have decided to let the FL walk alike by voting against proposals to increase funding from the PL to FL.
Manchester City who are ‘ruining football’ noticeable voting for the proposal… |
When did LFC declare themselves socialist? |  |
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| Major FFP Reforms coming on 15:49 - Mar 15 with 1386 views | dmm |
| Major FFP Reforms coming on 15:29 - Mar 15 by kensalriser |
When did LFC declare themselves socialist? |
I've never seen Liverpool declare itself to be socialist but the great Bill Shankly certainly was. | | | |
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