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The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil 08:30 - Mar 12 with 2078 viewsrbee

From the BBC website

A new four-lane highway cutting through tens of thousands of acres of protected Amazon rainforest is being built for the COP30 climate summit in the Brazilian city of Belém.
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The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 16:28 - Mar 12 with 494 viewsR_from_afar

The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 12:17 - Mar 12 by Lblock

Amen my brother, Amen.

Rubbish and it's contamination of the sea in general is my one and only climate concern.
That is the one thing we can control and that we are the main source of.

Mother Earth's climate will change.
It always has, always will.
She may decide it's time for humanity to do one and re-invent herself yet again.... if so there is not one thing the human race can do to stop her.


"Mother Earth's climate will change.
It always has, always will.
She may decide it's time for humanity to do one and re-invent herself yet again.... if so there is not one thing the human race can do to stop her."

Yes, there is natural climate change, but multiple, independent, unrelated and peer reviewed scientific studies have taken into account natural climate variability and concluded that the warming and changes to our climate can only be down to man-made GHG emissions.

That said, you are correct that Mother Nature could throw a catastrophic level of change at us.

In the meantime, we need to keep global temperature rises below 1.5 degrees or we are in for a whole world of hurt, a nightmare which no amount of money and effort will be able to fix.

The major advances in human civilisation have all taken place against a backdrop of stable climate. If climate tipping points are passed, large swathes of the planet will become uninhabitable and migration will go off the scale Over 200 million people live in coastal areas...

"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."

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The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 17:22 - Mar 12 with 427 viewsPunteR

The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 15:08 - Mar 12 by kensalriser

I already said - because it's working the way it's designed and it allows people time to transition without more draconian measures.

Would you prefer it if your vehicle was banned?


What's the congestion charge for then?

If you want to stop people having to drive into London, stop building offices , shops etc in London.

If I have to work in London, in my diesel van, it's about £27 for ULEZ and CC, I then have to pay almost double then other petrol/ electric cars to park. I'm looking around £60 spent before I've even started.
I think most are concerned with the environment, but I think the stumbling block, for me anyway, is it feels like a rip off. It's just seems like the solutions are just scratching the surface. Its just fund raising.
Recycle plastics another con. Just gets sent out to Malaysia or somewhere and they just dump it in the sea anyway.
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The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 17:41 - Mar 12 with 402 viewsGaryHaddock

The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 15:17 - Mar 12 by kensalriser

They should go much further in my opinion. There are way too many cars on the road in London. I have no idea why there are so many single occupancy vehicles crawling around during rush hour, I detest driving in London and only do so when there's no other reasonable choice (ie heavy loads, disabled passenger etc). I'd support more measures to charge vehicles, especially heavy ones, and fund improving public transport.

TfL is doing fine by the way - passenger demand is rising and there's an operating surplus. https://board.tfl.gov.uk/documents/s22122/fc-20240313-item06b-budget-part1-appx1


You are 100% correct.

With one caveat (and a huge generalisation), encouraging non Londoners to get public transport into London is a difficult ask as long as public transport is more expensive than driving.
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The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 20:57 - Mar 12 with 299 viewsGloucs_R

The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 17:41 - Mar 12 by GaryHaddock

You are 100% correct.

With one caveat (and a huge generalisation), encouraging non Londoners to get public transport into London is a difficult ask as long as public transport is more expensive than driving.
[Post edited 12 Mar 17:46]


It can cost me £180 for a return into London now. Utter madness.

Poll: Are we staying up?

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The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 21:42 - Mar 12 with 263 viewsMatch82

The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 20:57 - Mar 12 by Gloucs_R

It can cost me £180 for a return into London now. Utter madness.


I know subsidies are a part of this, but it's $7 (so about 5 quid) for me to get a return train ticket from the suburbs into downtown Chicago, that's about a 25 minute train ride each way, on comparable quality trains. It's another $5 for unlimited bus and "el" (tube equivalent) rides when I'm downtown.

It's not quite the scope and network of London but it's not a million miles away. I simply can't wrap my head around Public transport in London being so expensive now, it's crazy.
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The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 21:54 - Mar 12 with 253 viewsUPPERLOFTNZ

is Remi available for the playoffs?

Football is Faith
Poll: OK.. Next season. Where do you think we will finish?

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The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 22:18 - Mar 12 with 218 viewsted_hendrix

For me to use the train Saturday I have to drive 8 miles to Didcot parkway station, pay for car parking, return ticket to Paddington £37.80. get from Paddington to White City and then do the return journey hoping that the goddam train hasn't been cancelled.
Or.
I can jump In my very economical Honda Civic and providing I leave earlier enough drive and park up very near the ground with the added benefit of getting away sharpish and back on the M40.
It's life, It's how we are.
I'll use my car, It's how I'm programmed.
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My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 10:09 - Mar 13 with 51 viewsplasmahoop

The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 14:43 - Mar 12 by GaryHaddock

No fan of Sadiq Khan, but why does he get grief for Boris Johnson’s project? Is the answer as obvious as I think it is?


Sadiq Khan has written a book called 'breathe', so ulez is basically about promoting his book
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The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 10:12 - Mar 13 with 46 viewsGaryHaddock

The Upcoming COP30 climate summit in Brazil on 10:09 - Mar 13 by plasmahoop

Sadiq Khan has written a book called 'breathe', so ulez is basically about promoting his book


Incredible foresight to get his predecessor and political rival to launch a clean air scheme just so he can get £6k on a book.
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