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Team for Stoke? 16:36 - Jan 14 with 12307 views

Have we had updates on Saito and Dembele?

Would be good to get back to winnings ways and build a bit of momentum again, but really tough game.

Walsh
Mbengue-Dunne-Ronnie-RND (hopefully available?)
Bennie?-Field/Hayden-Madsen-Smyth
Kone-Kolli

Id actually like to see Bennie brought on up front when Kolli runs out of puff, but we might need him in place of Dembele?

Off on a tangent but I found Dave Mc's take on WLS interesting, about how we should be looking to try 433 a go again, with Kone as the the striker - basically "yes Burrell has been great but as a team we would be stronger with Kone as the main striker".

I don't think we will, but this could be a good time to experiment

Walsh
Mbengue-Dunne-Ronnie-RND
Morgan/Hayden-Madsen-Field
Kolli-Kone-Smyth

Edit. Formatting

[Post edited 14 Jan 16:39]

Team for Stoke? on 15:09 - Jan 16 with 1617 views

Beckenhamhoop

Team for Stoke? on 13:46 - Jan 16 by Padulas_Shampoo
He's not from Beckenham way is he?

I can confirm I am not Matt Winton although I can also confirm that, like him, I’m rather sick and tired of the constant negativity, bleating, group think and occasional derangement syndrome that affects some on here which is why I have been posting a lot less lately.

[Post edited 16 Jan 15:20]

Team for Stoke? on 15:10 - Jan 16 with 1538 views

stainrods_elbow

Team for Stoke? on 12:11 - Jan 16 by wombat
we have the same issue we always have with wingers, playing on the wrong side to get behind a defender and being able to deliver a decent cross as they are on the wrong foot so usually cut in and deliver an in swinger , its the fashionable way to play wingers this way but boils my pi$$

There's no point in just picking on Dembele - our final ball/crossing quality has been lamentable all season, and JS needs to do something about it.

Poll:

What d'ya expect from our last 3 holiday games (WBA(A), Norwich(H), Sheff W(H))?

Team for Stoke? on 15:12 - Jan 16 with 1588 views

7374Ranger

Team for Stoke? on 14:48 - Jan 15 by Northernr
But we don't have a fitness problem, remember.

I think the U17s and Women's have a fit squad though, so Ben Williams and his staff are doing a stellar job after all.

Team for Stoke? on 15:19 - Jan 16 with 1527 views

wombat

Team for Stoke? on 15:09 - Jan 16 by Beckenhamhoop
I can confirm I am not Matt Winton although I can also confirm that, like him, I’m rather sick and tired of the constant negativity, bleating, group think and occasional derangement syndrome that affects some on here which is why I have been posting a lot less lately. [Post edited 16 Jan 15:20]

oh beckenham im so hurt , dont think ive ever said a word to you so not sure where thats come from but each to there own mate .
as ill say to anyone face to face if you dont t like what people say , jog on its a decent way of keeping fit as well i hear .

but glad to hear the numerous impact injuires isnt worth talking about .

Poll:

which is your favouite foot

Team for Stoke? on 15:22 - Jan 16 with 1499 views

Padulas_Shampoo

Team for Stoke? on 15:09 - Jan 16 by Beckenhamhoop
I can confirm I am not Matt Winton although I can also confirm that, like him, I’m rather sick and tired of the constant negativity, bleating, group think and occasional derangement syndrome that affects some on here which is why I have been posting a lot less lately. [Post edited 16 Jan 15:20]

Thanks for confirming.

Is having ten outfield first team players out this weekend actually good news? It would be cool if you could clarify because the deranged group think is only telling me it's probably suboptimal. Thanks in advance.

Team for Stoke? on 15:24 - Jan 16 with 1482 views

7374Ranger

Team for Stoke? on 09:42 - Jan 16 by FDC

I'd like to see Bennie given a go up front - where those that have seen him in the DS say he's looked good - if / when Kolli needs to come off.

So, Morgan move in to replace him at RM... wait, that leaves an empty RB space... Dunne moves to RB?... Edwards in at CB?

It's like a rubrics cube this.

Edit. I do like the idea of the board going up and it being a substitution of Edwards on for Kolli though, should get the natives scratching their heads.

[Post edited 16 Jan 9:43]

The problem with looking god for the DS team is he is competing against kids. He needs to be on loan in L2 or the National League to compete against men.

I would ship out as many of these 1st team hopefuls as possible on loan to these leagues in January where they can learn and come back ready for a place in the QPR squad or a loan to a League 1 squad next autumn.

Team for Stoke? on 15:30 - Jan 16 with 1440 views

7374Ranger

Team for Stoke? on 10:44 - Jan 16 by TheChef
Well done him. I can't stand the guy, his attitude stinks.

I'm not a fan of Dembele either.

Occasionally he does something good, but for the most part, I haven't seen him do enough in games to convince me he is good enough for the Championship.

I'd sell him if any decent bids were submitted and get someone else in.

QPR could always get a % of a sell on fee should he turn out to be a better player than I think he is.

Team for Stoke? on 15:33 - Jan 16 with 1420 views

TheChef

Team for Stoke? on 15:10 - Jan 16 by stainrods_elbow
There's no point in just picking on Dembele - our final ball/crossing quality has been lamentable all season, and JS needs to do something about it.

Agreed.

But at least the likes of Saito and Smyth do more off the ball to help their team mates. Dembele usually just isn't bothered.

The age old chestnut, "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard."

Poll:

How old is everyone on here?

Team for Stoke? on 15:36 - Jan 16 with 1392 views

7374Ranger

Team for Stoke? on 13:13 - Jan 16 by Padulas_Shampoo

So... Just to clarify. With Dembele, Vale and Mbengue having tests, if none of those are fit enough, the list of players unavailable is:

Morrison
Clarke Salter
Mbengue
Dembele
Chair
Saito
Poku
Vale
Varane
Burrell

Which leaves of the established first team players:

Dunne
Cook
RND
Edwards
Field
Smyth
Hayden
Madsen
Morgan
Kone
Kolli

That's 48% of our outfield players that are injured. Someone make this make sense. That cannot be a coincidence. I have no idea how you pick a team to be competitive over 90 mins.

I read that Hull only have 12 fit players for their game at Southampton tomorrow.

Don't know who is in charge of the fitness & training there, but must have learnt from the same place as Ben Williams.

Team for Stoke? on 15:39 - Jan 16 with 1367 views

Northernr

Team for Stoke? on 15:36 - Jan 16 by 7374Ranger
I read that Hull only have 12 fit players for their game at Southampton tomorrow. Don't know who is in charge of the fitness & training there, but must have learnt from the same place as Ben Williams.

In defence of our club, there are lots struggling at the moment. Stoke tomorrow included.

The Christmas schedule isn't right.

Team for Stoke? on 15:40 - Jan 16 with 1357 views

OakR

Team for Stoke? on 13:13 - Jan 16 by Padulas_Shampoo

Fairly horrific injury list when you lay it out like that.

I guess you always have some inuries, but when it's this high I wonder how many are preventable, and how many are out of our control? Hard to know if we are Spurs last season loads of injuries, players overworked, bad pitch, cold weather, bad tackles etc and bad conditioning training or a combination of several factors.

You'd hope when they injury list is this high some sort of internal review would be happening to see if there is a pattern and to reduce the chance of it happening again.

Poll:

Will we stay up?

Team for Stoke? on 15:41 - Jan 16 with 1349 views

daveB

Team for Stoke? on 13:44 - Jan 16 by wombat

Honeslty no idea very very unlike him thats for sure , ive had way to many lets say battles with him on x so muich ssy i had to block him as it was his way or no way . no matter whats been said it was negative and ur not supporting the club . yep get up stupid oclock most weeks pay for my tickets and travel to watch us do then same as we have done the previous 10 times away from home which hasnt worked then and wont work this time . dare mention the same mistakes as the previous games , I have a feeling he also posts on here under a obv diff name

He's been odd for a while there and always accuses me of being anti QPR at the slightest hint of criticism which is always a bit annoying considering how much I spend watching the team all over the copuntry and how many hours a day I put into my website and youtube channel, if I was anti QPR i'm pretty sure I could find something better to do with my time.He's blocked me now for saying that our fitness and player availability could be improved, all a bit over the top really.I find it bizarre how his Dad would always question those in charge but he seems to be dead against anyone questioning what goes on.

Team for Stoke? on 15:43 - Jan 16 with 1331 views

daveB

Team for Stoke? on 15:39 - Jan 16 by Northernr
In defence of our club, there are lots struggling at the moment. Stoke tomorrow included. The Christmas schedule isn't right.

it is inevitable this time of year to get injuries, those 4 games in 9 days was ridiculous but we didn't help ourselves playing Poku in all 4 games when he has clear hamstring issues.

Team for Stoke? on 15:48 - Jan 16 with 1295 views

Northernr

Team for Stoke? on 15:43 - Jan 16 by daveB
it is inevitable this time of year to get injuries, those 4 games in 9 days was ridiculous but we didn't help ourselves playing Poku in all 4 games when he has clear hamstring issues.

No, I don't think we've helped ourselves at all, and the amount of muscle, soft tissue and hamstring injuries we're picking up is not right at all.

We lost four players before half time in that Sheff Wed game. That's not normal. I can't ever recall that happening before in my time watching Rangers. Three more at West Ham is seven in a week.

And like I say the schedule won't be any different next year, so take the criticism on board and work out how we can be better and improve next year. Don't try and double down using all sorts of spurious stats to back yourself up.

Team for Stoke? on 15:53 - Jan 16 with 1270 views

daveB

Team for Stoke? on 15:48 - Jan 16 by Northernr

yeah I don't think it's a bad thing to look to identify things that haven't gone well and do them better.

There is lots we can improve on from set pieces to away form and also to our fitness issues. I don't particularly want heads to roll and I'm sure everyone invovled will be looking for ways to do better next season and again the year after that. Pretending it's not an issue is not going to help us.

Team for Stoke? on 15:54 - Jan 16 with 1262 views

Markofthegrove

Team for Stoke? on 12:08 - Jan 16 by nick_hammersmith
Can sometimes veer into SWP territory. I'd hate to be the fullback on his side, or the #9 making runs to get on the end of his "crosses" For the West Ham game he only delivered the one decent ball, which Kone converted, but other forwards might have stopped making the runs earlier after the ball was kicked into touch again.

That free kick he skied over the bar from a brilliant crossing position infuriated me.

"Oh look im playing a premiership club, let me shoot and try and score a worldy instead if crossing and giving the team a chance"

Prick.

Team for Stoke? on 16:07 - Jan 16 with 1183 views

Northernr

Team for Stoke? on 15:41 - Jan 16 by daveB

That's a shame to hear mate. I don't always agree with what you say, and I'm sure likewise with me, but I always know it's coming from a genuine, good place of QPR support and wanting the best for the club. It's also always delivered thoughtfully and respectfully.

I made sure we had Matt on as one of our first guests on the podcast this season because I think it's important to hear all sides of opinions and arguments (the only site/podcast that's done this so far I believe), but I did say to him on that show it feels a little bit odd to be told that we should not criticise, just trust the people running the club and treat QPR as a nice day out with the kids by somebody whose family have been just about the most prominent and vocal critics of multiple QPR regimes over the last 30+ years.

Team for Stoke? on 16:10 - Jan 16 with 1159 views

francisbowles

Team for Stoke? on 15:10 - Jan 16 by stainrods_elbow
There's no point in just picking on Dembele - our final ball/crossing quality has been lamentable all season, and JS needs to do something about it.

I'm not convinced he could do much better and which wing would he play on?

Team for Stoke? on 16:11 - Jan 16 with 1154 views

TheChef

Team for Stoke? on 16:07 - Jan 16 by Northernr

Just bizarre what he's trying to get out from having this stance. Is it financial (not sure how)? Does he just want to be on the right side of history?

Poll:

How old is everyone on here?

Team for Stoke? on 16:24 - Jan 16 with 1118 views

daveB

Team for Stoke? on 16:07 - Jan 16 by Northernr

Yeah it would be weird if we all agreed on everything and this forum would be a bit dull.

It's amplified on social media now but ultimately everyone thinks they are right, no matter what the subject.
You'll get some people just saying stuff for attention but I've always found whatever the subject stuff people can have wildly different opinions on the same thing.

I actually find Matt and others point of view on everything being near perfect quite interesting as it's different to how I see it but I'm very open to the fact I could well be wrong and i really hope I am.

I've gone hot and heavy on many players, manager and ceo in the past and sometimes been right and quite often wrong. I wrote a glowing AKUTRS article about Mike Rigg once and I remember years ago on the QPR list getting very angry about the idea of Ian Holloway being manager and he turned out to be one of my favourite ever managers.

Anyway on the team news for tomorrow I think he'll go same as last week with Smyth in for Saito and I reckon if Dembele is out he'll start Bennie

Team for Stoke? on 17:00 - Jan 16 with 981 views

nick_hammersmith

Team for Stoke? on 16:11 - Jan 16 by TheChef
Just bizarre what he's trying to get out from having this stance. Is it financial (not sure how)? Does he just want to be on the right side of history?

Didn't they pay for the Shittu transfer and wages back in the day?
Thats got to be a free pass for an element of nonsense on social media...

It's QPR, of course we are going to buy someone, and there is always something good to moan about! ;D

Team for Stoke? on 17:08 - Jan 16 with 952 views

TK1

Team for Stoke? on 16:24 - Jan 16 by daveB

1/ I can't believe he's blocked you. That's very snowflake of someone resolutely anti-snowflake. He's always seemed a good sort. Blocking is quite violent, really, it's a message. Muting is sufficient unless you're blocking actual personal abuse, racism, etc.

2/ I remember the Holloway post on the list! Ironically, Dave Mc wrote a very long piece then about how Holloway could turn out to be the equivalent of Martin O'Neil at Leicester for QPR (almost true, really). By the end, Dave Mc was pulling his hair about Olly, quite down on him (and vice versa!) and you were his biggest fan. You'd swapped positions.

That's why blocking someone over an opinion on QPR is mental.We all change our minds all the time based on...results. It's a fickle business. Get on with it.

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Team for Stoke? on 17:34 - Jan 16 with 885 views

terryb

Was Alfie Lloyd recalled in time for him to be a sub tomorrow?

Team for Stoke? on 19:41 - Jan 16 with 722 views

daveB

Team for Stoke? on 17:08 - Jan 16 by TK1

[Post edited 16 Jan 17:09]

He was probably just having a bad day, I am quite annoying at times so I don't blame him

Team for Stoke? on 21:47 - Jan 16 with 558 views

wombat

Team for Stoke? on 15:10 - Jan 16 by stainrods_elbow
There's no point in just picking on Dembele - our final ball/crossing quality has been lamentable all season, and JS needs to do something about it.

Have I singled him out ?NO
It’s been a problem since the latest fad of playing wingers on the wrong side so they can cut in on the stronger foot

Poll:

which is your favouite foot

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