| Team for Stoke? 16:36 - Jan 14 with 12308 views | FDC |
Have we had updates on Saito and Dembele?
Would be good to get back to winnings ways and build a bit of momentum again, but really tough game.
Walsh
Mbengue-Dunne-Ronnie-RND (hopefully available?)
Bennie?-Field/Hayden-Madsen-Smyth
Kone-Kolli
Id actually like to see Bennie brought on up front when Kolli runs out of puff, but we might need him in place of Dembele?
Off on a tangent but I found Dave Mc's take on WLS interesting, about how we should be looking to try 433 a go again, with Kone as the the striker - basically "yes Burrell has been great but as a team we would be stronger with Kone as the main striker".
I don't think we will, but this could be a good time to experiment
Walsh
Mbengue-Dunne-Ronnie-RND
Morgan/Hayden-Madsen-Field
Kolli-Kone-Smyth
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| Team for Stoke? on 11:12 - Jan 16 with 1683 views | TheChef |
| Team for Stoke? on 10:54 - Jan 16 by Watford_Ranger |
His body language sometimes isn’t the best but I’m not reading that much into it. Some players can just be that way. For sure there are games where it feels like he’s not putting the yards in defensively but I’ve seen others where that’s been improved. Think he’s more wildly inconsistent than having a bad attitude. |
Only game he's done that was when Leicester visited and he had a point to prove to the ex manager.
Otherwise he's a dangerous combination of half-arsed with poor end product.
Compare to Smyth who also usually has poor end product but at least puts in a decent shift.
Get rid. |  |
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| Team for Stoke? on 11:47 - Jan 16 with 1525 views | TK1 |
| Team for Stoke? on 15:46 - Jan 15 by daveB |
The data clearly shows they are all fit and anyone who doesn't agree has an agenda against the club |
And Matt Winton will send you a detailed report why. |  | | |
| Team for Stoke? on 11:53 - Jan 16 with 1494 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Team for Stoke? on 16:26 - Jan 15 by BAWHoops |
I think Saturday is going to be a massacre. Likely lose at Oxford and maybe 1 point from the two home games.
Literally no bodies
.................Walsh...........
Morgan.....Dunne...Edwards...RND
Bennie.....Hayden....Madsen...Smyth
..............Kone....Kolli...............
Some of those kids that played v Plymouth may be getting a run out, as may Emmerson Sutton! |
This seems wildly pessimistic.
Yes we have a lot of players out but I think we all agree our squad depth is better than it’s been for years so there is no reason to panic just yet.
Think we’ll lose at Stoke though. |  | | |
| Team for Stoke? on 11:56 - Jan 16 with 1488 views | TheChef |
| Team for Stoke? on 11:47 - Jan 16 by TK1 |
And Matt Winton will send you a detailed report why. |
A detailed report without any data  | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 12:06 - Jan 16 with 1417 views | wombat |
| Team for Stoke? on 11:47 - Jan 16 by TK1 |
And Matt Winton will send you a detailed report why. |
lol thats made me spit my tea out , sad thing matt had been a friend for way to many years , ive no idea why hes suddenly turned into what he presently is online so much so ive had to block him . and this was the person who while on my coach to cardiff for the play off final banged hard on the coach window id hired to get the attention of a certain nick blackburn and then gave him a very large w@anker sign for the next half a mile on the M4 .while stuck in traffic coming out of the services. |  |
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| Team for Stoke? on 12:08 - Jan 16 with 1397 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Team for Stoke? on 11:12 - Jan 16 by TheChef |
Only game he's done that was when Leicester visited and he had a point to prove to the ex manager.
Otherwise he's a dangerous combination of half-arsed with poor end product.
Compare to Smyth who also usually has poor end product but at least puts in a decent shift.
Get rid. |
Can sometimes veer into SWP territory. I'd hate to be the fullback on his side, or the #9 making runs to get on the end of his "crosses"
For the West Ham game he only delivered the one decent ball, which Kone converted, but other forwards might have stopped making the runs earlier after the ball was kicked into touch again. |  | | |
| Team for Stoke? on 12:11 - Jan 16 with 1378 views | wombat |
| Team for Stoke? on 12:08 - Jan 16 by nick_hammersmith |
Can sometimes veer into SWP territory. I'd hate to be the fullback on his side, or the #9 making runs to get on the end of his "crosses"
For the West Ham game he only delivered the one decent ball, which Kone converted, but other forwards might have stopped making the runs earlier after the ball was kicked into touch again. |
we have the same issue we always have with wingers, playing on the wrong side to get behind a defender and being able to deliver a decent cross as they are on the wrong foot so usually cut in and deliver an in swinger , its the fashionable way to play wingers this way but boils my pi$$ | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 12:36 - Jan 16 with 1267 views | francisbowles |
I think this is a game for a 451
Walsh
Mbengue or Morgan, Dunne, Cooke, RND
Smyth, Hayden, Madsen, Field, Kolli
Kone
Bench: Hamer, Adamson, Edwards, Esquerdinha, Smith, Bennie, Aoraha, Morgan or ?,
Sutton | | | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 12:59 - Jan 16 with 1173 views | Dorse |
We start putting shillings into drunks' beer, rounding them up from the boozer, sticking them in hoops and aiming them at the opposition. To be fair, that might explain a few of the more confusing selections over the years. |  |
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| Team for Stoke? on 13:13 - Jan 16 with 1121 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
So... Just to clarify. With Dembele, Vale and Mbengue having tests, if none of those are fit enough, the list of players unavailable is:
Morrison
Clarke Salter
Mbengue
Dembele
Chair
Saito
Poku
Vale
Varane
Burrell
Which leaves of the established first team players:
Dunne
Cook
RND
Edwards
Field
Smyth
Hayden
Madsen
Morgan
Kone
Kolli
That's 48% of our outfield players that are injured. Someone make this make sense. That cannot be a coincidence. I have no idea how you pick a team to be competitive over 90 mins. |  | | |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:15 - Jan 16 with 1120 views | TheChef |
| Team for Stoke? on 12:06 - Jan 16 by wombat |
lol thats made me spit my tea out , sad thing matt had been a friend for way to many years , ive no idea why hes suddenly turned into what he presently is online so much so ive had to block him . and this was the person who while on my coach to cardiff for the play off final banged hard on the coach window id hired to get the attention of a certain nick blackburn and then gave him a very large w@anker sign for the next half a mile on the M4 .while stuck in traffic coming out of the services. |
Yeah I'm not entirely sure what he's trying to get out of cosying up to Nourry and co. | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 13:24 - Jan 16 with 1080 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Team for Stoke? on 11:12 - Jan 16 by TheChef |
Only game he's done that was when Leicester visited and he had a point to prove to the ex manager.
Otherwise he's a dangerous combination of half-arsed with poor end product.
Compare to Smyth who also usually has poor end product but at least puts in a decent shift.
Get rid. |
I’m not a big fan either but presumably he’s on a long-ish contract, he’s young and we’ve had glimpses of something. Lots to improve but, for me, there’s something to work with. We’re not getting enough out of any of the wide players for a variety of reasons so they’ve all got an opportunity to be a nailed on starter.
I remain chairman of the unofficial Paul Smyth fan club. | | | |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:26 - Jan 16 with 1077 views | FDC |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:13 - Jan 16 by Padulas_Shampoo |
So... Just to clarify. With Dembele, Vale and Mbengue having tests, if none of those are fit enough, the list of players unavailable is:
Morrison
Clarke Salter
Mbengue
Dembele
Chair
Saito
Poku
Vale
Varane
Burrell
Which leaves of the established first team players:
Dunne
Cook
RND
Edwards
Field
Smyth
Hayden
Madsen
Morgan
Kone
Kolli
That's 48% of our outfield players that are injured. Someone make this make sense. That cannot be a coincidence. I have no idea how you pick a team to be competitive over 90 mins. |
Jesus, when you set it out like that... It's insane! | | | |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:33 - Jan 16 with 1049 views | TheChef |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:24 - Jan 16 by Watford_Ranger |
I’m not a big fan either but presumably he’s on a long-ish contract, he’s young and we’ve had glimpses of something. Lots to improve but, for me, there’s something to work with. We’re not getting enough out of any of the wide players for a variety of reasons so they’ve all got an opportunity to be a nailed on starter.
I remain chairman of the unofficial Paul Smyth fan club. |
There's a lot of questions around the effectiveness of our coaching, but equally each player needs to want to improve too. Rather than just settle on whatever has got them to this stage in their career.
Unfortunately I don't get that impression with Dembele. | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 13:44 - Jan 16 with 981 views | wombat |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:15 - Jan 16 by TheChef |
Yeah I'm not entirely sure what he's trying to get out of cosying up to Nourry and co. |
Honeslty no idea very very unlike him thats for sure , ive had way to many lets say battles with him on x so muich ssy i had to block him as it was his way or no way . no matter whats been said it was negative and ur not supporting the club . yep get up stupid oclock most weeks pay for my tickets and travel to watch us do then same as we have done the previous 10 times away from home which hasnt worked then and wont work this time . dare mention the same mistakes as the previous games , I have a feeling he also posts on here under a obv diff name | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 13:46 - Jan 16 with 958 views | wombat |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:33 - Jan 16 by TheChef |
There's a lot of questions around the effectiveness of our coaching, but equally each player needs to want to improve too. Rather than just settle on whatever has got them to this stage in their career.
Unfortunately I don't get that impression with Dembele. |
honesrtly from his body language and his just demeaner he dosnt seem to want to be here , hopefully im wrong i usually am but he just dosnt seem happy when he plays. yes hes in and out of the team but thats down to him nuckling down and just getting on with it . if we got an offer id grab it to be honest. | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 13:46 - Jan 16 with 955 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:44 - Jan 16 by wombat |
Honeslty no idea very very unlike him thats for sure , ive had way to many lets say battles with him on x so muich ssy i had to block him as it was his way or no way . no matter whats been said it was negative and ur not supporting the club . yep get up stupid oclock most weeks pay for my tickets and travel to watch us do then same as we have done the previous 10 times away from home which hasnt worked then and wont work this time . dare mention the same mistakes as the previous games , I have a feeling he also posts on here under a obv diff name |
He's not from Beckenham way is he? | | | |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:51 - Jan 16 with 939 views | TheChef |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:44 - Jan 16 by wombat |
Honeslty no idea very very unlike him thats for sure , ive had way to many lets say battles with him on x so muich ssy i had to block him as it was his way or no way . no matter whats been said it was negative and ur not supporting the club . yep get up stupid oclock most weeks pay for my tickets and travel to watch us do then same as we have done the previous 10 times away from home which hasnt worked then and wont work this time . dare mention the same mistakes as the previous games , I have a feeling he also posts on here under a obv diff name |
I think one of the Christmas games, Clive's report mentioned him having a strop on the sidelines and Dunne had to calm him down?
Don't doubt that he has talent, just the wrong attitude sadly. | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 14:04 - Jan 16 with 905 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Team for Stoke? on 12:36 - Jan 16 by francisbowles |
I think this is a game for a 451
Walsh
Mbengue or Morgan, Dunne, Cooke, RND
Smyth, Hayden, Madsen, Field, Kolli
Kone
Bench: Hamer, Adamson, Edwards, Esquerdinha, Smith, Bennie, Aoraha, Morgan or ?,
Sutton |
Bench: Hamer, Nardi, Cooper, Halliday, Salaman, Warren, Fittall, and Edwards |  |
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| Team for Stoke? on 14:15 - Jan 16 with 880 views | wombat |
| Team for Stoke? on 13:46 - Jan 16 by Padulas_Shampoo |
He's not from Beckenham way is he? |
no but can see your angle | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 14:31 - Jan 16 with 817 views | OakR |
I think we might go:
Walsh
Adamson Dunne Cook RND
Morgan Madsen Hayden Smyth
Kone Kolli
Subs - Bennie for Kollie, Field for RND, Edwards for Cook.
I like Morgan, but don't really like him at RB, I feel he's better further forward and errors giving the ball away less problematic there whilst he is developing.
I wouldn't mind starting Kolli on the left and having Bennie up front, if we think Kolli can last the whole game, but that seems a risk at the moment, especially with all our other injuries.
Adamson is definitely a risk, but thought he did ok at West Ham and would rather Dunne stayed in the middle - happy to see how he does with a solid back 3 next to him. | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 14:45 - Jan 16 with 725 views | kensalriser |
| Team for Stoke? on 14:31 - Jan 16 by OakR |
I think we might go:
Walsh
Adamson Dunne Cook RND
Morgan Madsen Hayden Smyth
Kone Kolli
Subs - Bennie for Kollie, Field for RND, Edwards for Cook.
I like Morgan, but don't really like him at RB, I feel he's better further forward and errors giving the ball away less problematic there whilst he is developing.
I wouldn't mind starting Kolli on the left and having Bennie up front, if we think Kolli can last the whole game, but that seems a risk at the moment, especially with all our other injuries.
Adamson is definitely a risk, but thought he did ok at West Ham and would rather Dunne stayed in the middle - happy to see how he does with a solid back 3 next to him. |
I'd be very surprised if he starts Adamson ahead of Field. |  |
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| Team for Stoke? on 14:47 - Jan 16 with 714 views | Jeff |
| Team for Stoke? on 11:56 - Jan 16 by TheChef |
A detailed report without any data |
not only is the report entirely devoid of data, it's also completely, totally, 100% written by AI.
We ran it through an AI checker and it came out 100% AI, 0% human written |  |
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| Team for Stoke? on 14:49 - Jan 16 with 697 views | OakR |
| Team for Stoke? on 14:45 - Jan 16 by kensalriser |
I'd be very surprised if he starts Adamson ahead of Field. |
I think you are right, but think he will play Morgan instead of Field if not Adamson. | |
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| Team for Stoke? on 15:08 - Jan 16 with 627 views | aston_hoop |
| Team for Stoke? on 14:45 - Jan 16 by kensalriser |
I'd be very surprised if he starts Adamson ahead of Field. |
Yeah, would say playing Dunne, Mbengue, Morgan and Hayden at RB at various points ahead of Adamson tells the full story about what Julien thinks of that signing. |  |
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