| Just back 17:49 - Jan 24 with 4514 views | BlackCrowe |
Aaargh...sooooo disappointing.
Game should have been put to bed at half time, we played very very well and then a couple of our players went a bit quiet in the second half. Mbenge red changed the game but to be honest, he really doesn't look suited to right back position and hasn't done for a few games. Wrexham were good value though, helped by a ridiculously lenient ref, and certainly know how to rifle shots on target from distance.
But overall a great game and we played well enough i reckon...very disappoiting. |  |
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| Just back on 19:19 - Jan 24 with 1201 views | 7374Ranger |
| Just back on 18:00 - Jan 24 by ted_hendrix |
That's the bit about playing too deep. |
I was saying the same thing to the fan next to me and then bang bang they scored twice because there wasn't an out ball anymore. Prior to the added time, QPR had Kolli and Kone as focal points to hit the ball to and the latter forced a corner and the former a shot that was narrowly wide.
That all changed when the 4 minutes were added. Suddenly they all sat deep with no outlet.
I will add that Wrexham know how to shoot. 3 goals , a couple of good saves from Walsh and another blocked. Why can't QPR players shoot on target?
As for the ref, he was shocking. He rarely gave QPR a free kick, couldn't wait to award them to Wrexham and how he never booked the no.12 or even the one who pushed Smyth in the 1st half when all the usual jostling at set pieces , I will never understand. Anywhere else that happens , it's a free kick and a booking.
I couldn't see along the touchline clearly from the SAR stand, but Mbengue was booked for his 1st foul yet the Wrexham no.12 had committed at least 3 fouls and constant holding and only received a talking to. Of course, he then sent Mbenge off for his reckless push which probably proved crucial in Wrexham's win. |  | | |
| Just back on 19:21 - Jan 24 with 1189 views | Stanisgod |
| Just back on 17:54 - Jan 24 by ted_hendrix |
92 minutes gone and we're leading 2-1 at home, seriously you shouldn't be losing that game 3-2.
No excuse for It, none at all. |
Correct. I could except the equaliser but not the winner. We kicked off at 2-2 with a minute to go and couldn't get the ball up the other end at all. |  |
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| Just back on 19:21 - Jan 24 with 1189 views | Paddyhoops |
| Just back on 18:55 - Jan 24 by CLAREMAN1995 |
They did not deserve that win but once we took the lead their Manager went all out and they pulled it off.Took a lot of help from us of course as all mentioned here and other threads.
Wrexham's manager just said this is probably the worst pitch in the division btw not exactly helping our mood |
He should have seen the pitch last home game. He really would have something to moan about then . | | | |
| Just back on 19:23 - Jan 24 with 1172 views | themodfather |
why did JS not sub Mbengue , he was on a yellow, weak ref, we had options, manage the game, secure the win and we blew it. stupid effing needless tackle and to conceded 2 in mins? not good enough, we caved | | | |
| Just back on 19:27 - Jan 24 with 1139 views | connell10 |
Seriously, are we actually OK with that result???? Bloody awful is all I can say , no if ,buts or maybes we should have won that game as for Wrexham despite all the money they have spent were very, very average! The sending off was the turning point!@: |  |
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| Just back on 19:31 - Jan 24 with 1088 views | R_from_afar |
| Just back on 19:19 - Jan 24 by 7374Ranger |
I was saying the same thing to the fan next to me and then bang bang they scored twice because there wasn't an out ball anymore. Prior to the added time, QPR had Kolli and Kone as focal points to hit the ball to and the latter forced a corner and the former a shot that was narrowly wide.
That all changed when the 4 minutes were added. Suddenly they all sat deep with no outlet.
I will add that Wrexham know how to shoot. 3 goals , a couple of good saves from Walsh and another blocked. Why can't QPR players shoot on target?
As for the ref, he was shocking. He rarely gave QPR a free kick, couldn't wait to award them to Wrexham and how he never booked the no.12 or even the one who pushed Smyth in the 1st half when all the usual jostling at set pieces , I will never understand. Anywhere else that happens , it's a free kick and a booking.
I couldn't see along the touchline clearly from the SAR stand, but Mbengue was booked for his 1st foul yet the Wrexham no.12 had committed at least 3 fouls and constant holding and only received a talking to. Of course, he then sent Mbenge off for his reckless push which probably proved crucial in Wrexham's win. |
"Why can't QPR players shoot on target?"
Why indeed. For some reason, this seems to have been a problem for a long while now.
Perhaps the coaches and players think shooting practice is just too dull to work on, even though it's one of the basics you really must get right.
Who knows, though, I'm depressed and am just guessing  . |  |
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| Just back on 19:37 - Jan 24 with 1045 views | 7374Ranger |
| Just back on 19:21 - Jan 24 by Stanisgod |
Correct. I could except the equaliser but not the winner. We kicked off at 2-2 with a minute to go and couldn't get the ball up the other end at all. |
That really annoyed me too. How on Earth do you kick off and give the ball back to the opposition?
QPR have become almost useless at retaining possession and struggle to string 3 passes together. Can't blame it on the pitch as it us the same or worse at away games.
Stephan needs to work better with them to coach passing, set pieces and shooting.
As for the other coaching staff like Steve Bould, what do they do? Our set pieces are terrible (apart from the corner today for Cook's goal). Free kicks and throw ins look like hit and hope rather than something that is worked on. | | | |
| Just back on 19:38 - Jan 24 with 1045 views | ozexile |
I genuinely wonder if any other fans go on about tiredness as much as our fans. These are young athletes. Maybe we're just not very good. | | | |
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| Just back on 19:45 - Jan 24 with 1010 views | NW5Hoop |
| Just back on 19:19 - Jan 24 by 7374Ranger |
I was saying the same thing to the fan next to me and then bang bang they scored twice because there wasn't an out ball anymore. Prior to the added time, QPR had Kolli and Kone as focal points to hit the ball to and the latter forced a corner and the former a shot that was narrowly wide.
That all changed when the 4 minutes were added. Suddenly they all sat deep with no outlet.
I will add that Wrexham know how to shoot. 3 goals , a couple of good saves from Walsh and another blocked. Why can't QPR players shoot on target?
As for the ref, he was shocking. He rarely gave QPR a free kick, couldn't wait to award them to Wrexham and how he never booked the no.12 or even the one who pushed Smyth in the 1st half when all the usual jostling at set pieces , I will never understand. Anywhere else that happens , it's a free kick and a booking.
I couldn't see along the touchline clearly from the SAR stand, but Mbengue was booked for his 1st foul yet the Wrexham no.12 had committed at least 3 fouls and constant holding and only received a talking to. Of course, he then sent Mbenge off for his reckless push which probably proved crucial in Wrexham's win. |
Mbengue's first yellow was for a scythe so vicious that had it made contact the fella wouldn't have walked again – it was right in front of me. Fortunately, he was just too late to make contact. Obvious yellow and would have been red had he made any contact. | | | |
| Just back on 19:52 - Jan 24 with 955 views | Damo1962 |
| Just back on 18:33 - Jan 24 by ManinBlack |
If you are not fit then the team will look tired the longer the game goes on for. If the manager and players know they are going to wilt then it is imperative we take the opportunities in the first half. We should have been three up at half time but a tired team will start sitting back as the game wears on when only leading by a goal. If we had done our homework we would have known Wrexham score a number of stoppage time goals so we should have played more sensibly in the dying embers.
The frustration I have with us is that when the opponents go down to 10 men we can't score against them even when we have an hour still to play. All we had to do was see out 5 minutes but we ship two just 60 seconds apart. We can make excuses about tiredness but why do other clubs cope better? Wrexham won all four games between Christmas and the New Year. Today Middlesbrough blew Preston away 4-0, this after winning at West Brom and Stoke in the past week. Why are they not tired and sitting back at home like us? We have mentally weak players who are unfit and it never changes over the seasons. Until someone at the club shakes us out of this apathy and changes the dynamics we will still be in this same place in twenty years time.
Perhaps people have forgotten past nightmares but we have been here before. The famous City game 2-1 up on 90 minutes only to lose after 95 minutes. Or how about Hull? One up after 90 minutes only to lose two goals in stoppage time. The only difference today is that we were at home. [Post edited 24 Jan 18:36]
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This is it in a nutshell. So obvious...but seemingly never addressed. | | | |
| Just back on 19:52 - Jan 24 with 970 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Just back on 19:45 - Jan 24 by NW5Hoop |
Mbengue's first yellow was for a scythe so vicious that had it made contact the fella wouldn't have walked again – it was right in front of me. Fortunately, he was just too late to make contact. Obvious yellow and would have been red had he made any contact. |
Really?
From the TV angle, it looked (at least to me) like he changed his mind and pulled out of the challenge. |  |
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| Just back on 19:54 - Jan 24 with 965 views | StreathamRanger |
| Just back on 19:38 - Jan 24 by ozexile |
I genuinely wonder if any other fans go on about tiredness as much as our fans. These are young athletes. Maybe we're just not very good. |
This is a definite possibility. Midtable squad with midtable players. We'll win some and we'll lose some. Enough not to go down but not enough to go up. | | | |
| Just back on 20:05 - Jan 24 with 917 views | dmm |
Stephan commented in his post match interview that we should have been 2 up at HT. I agree. We dominated the first 45 and should have capitalised more than we did.
Then in the second 45 we saw an increasingly familiar drop in momentum. Stephan must 'find a solution', as he'd say, to this horrible habit we have of being worse in the second half than the first. It's killing us. |  | | |
| Just back on 20:10 - Jan 24 with 896 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Just back on 19:00 - Jan 24 by stainrods_elbow |
What are some of the other plusses in your view? |
Booooooooooooooooooooooring. | |
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| Just back on 20:11 - Jan 24 with 896 views | Paddyhoops |
| Just back on 18:16 - Jan 24 by ted_hendrix |
Parkinson must have thought he'd died and gone to Heaven In the 93rd and 94th minute. |
I died and went to hell . That train ride back to West Ruislip was like a morgue.
4 minutes away from a superb win . Gutted | | | |
| Just back on 20:14 - Jan 24 with 872 views | RuislipHoop |
| Just back on 19:37 - Jan 24 by 7374Ranger |
That really annoyed me too. How on Earth do you kick off and give the ball back to the opposition?
QPR have become almost useless at retaining possession and struggle to string 3 passes together. Can't blame it on the pitch as it us the same or worse at away games.
Stephan needs to work better with them to coach passing, set pieces and shooting.
As for the other coaching staff like Steve Bould, what do they do? Our set pieces are terrible (apart from the corner today for Cook's goal). Free kicks and throw ins look like hit and hope rather than something that is worked on. |
The players have limited ability,there has been poor recruitment over the last 4 years,JCS for one,why have they not paid him off.Poku,hasn’t played a full game yet and it’s nearly February,Saito and Dembele are bit part players,today was probably Kone,s best game for us but he’s no CF.Not quite sure about JS,obviously he has players injured but ????? | | | |
| Just back on 20:31 - Jan 24 with 802 views | BlackCrowe |
I don't know what he's written but if he can read this, can you just fck off from any thread i've started (which aren't many, so not a big ask). | |
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| Just back on 21:06 - Jan 24 with 709 views | MrSheen |
| Just back on 18:19 - Jan 24 by andrew1302 |
For me after the sending off Field moved into the back four and a hole was left open and that is where both goals came from. Why did Stefan take of one of 2 upfront or move someone to fill that gap. The 3rd goal came as therewas no one there and the guy had the freedom of the park to line up his shot. |
After no-one initially at right back they rushed Bennie in there and he clearly didn’t know what he was doing. Field at centre back and Jimmy on the right would have made more sense.
Mbengue might gave got away with it if he wasn’t so near the wall. Disappointing that iutright violence from Wrexham players had been waved off so often. |  | | |
| Just back on 21:55 - Jan 24 with 603 views | NW5Hoop |
| Just back on 19:52 - Jan 24 by BrianMcCarthy |
Really?
From the TV angle, it looked (at least to me) like he changed his mind and pulled out of the challenge. |
If he was pulling out, I hate to see what following through would look like. You're probably right, but it was an obvious yellow from 10 feet away. | | | |
| Just back on 21:56 - Jan 24 with 598 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Just back on 21:55 - Jan 24 by NW5Hoop |
If he was pulling out, I hate to see what following through would look like. You're probably right, but it was an obvious yellow from 10 feet away. |
Ok, thanks NW5. | |
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| Just back on 23:06 - Jan 24 with 429 views | Discodroids |
| Just back on 19:21 - Jan 24 by Stanisgod |
Correct. I could except the equaliser but not the winner. We kicked off at 2-2 with a minute to go and couldn't get the ball up the other end at all. |
6 hours later and i'm still at a loss to comprehend this. My frontal synapse will not absorb it.
To lose in this fashion assaults my 5 known senses. It was a petri dish of F troop and mike and bernie winters. About as far away from a professional football as you can be.
it would be comical if it wasn't so fkn risible... Just madness. Beyond the twightlight zone.
the outer limits of pure shite in totality. [Post edited 24 Jan 23:11]
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| Just back on 23:10 - Jan 24 with 403 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Just back on 20:05 - Jan 24 by dmm |
Stephan commented in his post match interview that we should have been 2 up at HT. I agree. We dominated the first 45 and should have capitalised more than we did.
Then in the second 45 we saw an increasingly familiar drop in momentum. Stephan must 'find a solution', as he'd say, to this horrible habit we have of being worse in the second half than the first. It's killing us. |
He's very good at talking about 'finding solutions' (increasingly, in other words, stating the bleedin' obvious), but, unfortunately, not very good at actually finding them. |  |
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| Just back on 23:25 - Jan 24 with 350 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Just back on 20:31 - Jan 24 by BlackCrowe |
I don't know what he's written but if he can read this, can you just fck off from any thread i've started (which aren't many, so not a big ask). |
Here's another idea - you go away and wash your mouth out, eh? Then perhaps we'll talk. | |
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| Just back on 23:46 - Jan 24 with 287 views | EN_Ranger |
Whenever we look mildly comfortable (like the first half today), i feel worried. We don’t yet know how to manage games when we’re ahead or in control.
Loads of good performances today and although I’m a Julien fan, the defeat was on him. The subs were too late (Smyth, Vale, Morgan couldn’t run for at least 15 minutes before coming off and the lack of activity after the red (ffs Mbengue) killed us. Could see the players trying to work out what to do amongst themselves and failing. The direct football we all prefer doesn’t work with just Kone on his own in the opposition half and the tactics need to be tweaked.
For Cook and Dunne to be that dominant at the back, for Madsen to play that well in midfield
and to still concede three is crazy, which is why I don’t feel too depressed after a disappointing defeat.
We’re a mid-table team and I’ve accepted it (for this season) as slight progress | | | |
| Just back on 00:09 - Jan 25 with 228 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Just back on 21:55 - Jan 24 by NW5Hoop |
If he was pulling out, I hate to see what following through would look like. You're probably right, but it was an obvious yellow from 10 feet away. |
From my couch it looked like he comitted,tried to pull out which only made the lunge worse and withour question a straight red only for the Wrexham player dodged the worst of it.
Not too angry about that but the second one it looked like Mbengue targeted him a player not going to kill us with a ball from there just stand your ground man dont lunge in.
Such a shame I thought he was good today and nearly scored a stunning goal .
Scoring the equalizer after the red card was bad enough but giving up the winner cruel really |  | | |
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