| Four minutes of madness – Report on 23:09 - Jan 25 with 3427 views | E17hoop |
I don't like blaming referees for players' decisions but you are SO right about Langford - Refereed different players to different standards in the same match. [Post edited 25 Jan 23:09]
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| Four minutes of madness – Report on 23:18 - Jan 25 with 3353 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Thanks Clive. |  |
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| Four minutes of madness – Report on 23:21 - Jan 25 with 3341 views | mart_Goblin |
Well done Clive .
Even by our standards , that was quite a thing .
All a bit Barnstoneworth …the useless…useless b*stards! |  | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 23:31 - Jan 25 with 3290 views | nix |
Sums it up Clive. |  | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 00:16 - Jan 26 with 3063 views | stainrods_elbow |
Just about covers it, though I don't necessarily agree we deserved to win. A draw would have been about right from what I've seen and read.
This manager is all ifs and buts and shrugs and excuses. He said if we'd got to h/t at 2-0, it might have been a different game, but we didn't, and it wasn't. Even at 2-0, though, I think we could still have found a way to f*ck it up. For me, the second half showing was pusillanimous, lacked pride, and really showed up our lack of confidence. |  |
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| Four minutes of madness – Report on 00:51 - Jan 26 with 3068 views | cuppahoop |
From the School end, the moment the equaliser went in & they’re player raced to pick the ball out of the net to get play restarted told me they knew we were there for the taking & so it proved regardless we were down to 10..poor game management is the only conclusion.. |  | | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 03:00 - Jan 26 with 2919 views | JAPRANGERS |
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Best comment on the match I have seen!  |  | | |
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| Four minutes of madness – Report on 03:12 - Jan 26 with 2899 views | JAPRANGERS |
Frightening to think about what Coventry are going to do to us on Saturday.  | | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 04:37 - Jan 26 with 2815 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 03:12 - Jan 26 by JAPRANGERS |
Frightening to think about what Coventry are going to do to us on Saturday. |
Dont think for 1 second this sickening collapse wont burn these players and managment knowing we were a few minutes away from 3 points now the QPR world is on fire.
A full week to get it out of their system and hopefully a body or 2 back from injury they could actually beat Coventry IMO.
Not real Madrid or Barca just a good team with good strikers we can handle that . |  | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 06:54 - Jan 26 with 2657 views | Philothesuperhoop |
Great report, thanks Clive
A couple of thoughts, one of which I intended to mention to you in the boozer, but forgot; it hasn’t really been commented on that the style of football JS has us playing doesn’t help with the injuries or the apparent lack of fitness. We always have less possession than the oppo, which means by definition we spend more time chasing around after the ball. We are therefore bound to look more knackered at the end, even if we were equally fit, which I don’t think we are. Plus that style of play must contribute to soft tissue injuries.
Onto Mbengue, is there a chance that he was trying to get sent off? It was so stupid, it does make you wonder. He knew he was on a two game ban for his 10th yellow - did he assume that would be trumped by a red card one game ban?! |  | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 07:10 - Jan 26 with 2617 views | Paddyhoops |
That one is going to hurt for a long time. Just hope we have mental fortitude to come up with a performance against Coventry.
They were some great performances in there . Vale, Dembele and Madsen in particular.
Honestly thought when just four minutes came up on the board? We had this .
Never assume anything with Rangers.
One thing I would say though is that it was a cracking game of football. Sadly with a Hollywood ending. | | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 07:32 - Jan 26 with 2538 views | Lblock |
Huge test for the Frenchman and the club now.
A traditional QPR death spiral this season would not be acceptable in any way shape or form.
My opinion is the club has been totally mismanaged all season but nothing unusual there.
We’ve found ourselves on the cusp of the play offs purely by accident and didn’t have a clue what to do and are too much of a mess on and off the pitch to capitalise.
Seeing Millwall and PNE up there is particularly galling
Let’s see if they can get back on the tracks or if JS will be waving the second flag of his home nation in upcoming games |  |
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| Four minutes of madness – Report on 08:10 - Jan 26 with 2410 views | derbyhoop |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 23:09 - Jan 25 by E17hoop |
I don't like blaming referees for players' decisions but you are SO right about Langford - Refereed different players to different standards in the same match. [Post edited 25 Jan 23:09]
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Given the grappling and fouling by Kabore at EVERY corner, is there anything to prevent a ref from calling it what it surely is - a foul and a penalty?
OK give the defender a warning first. But after the 3rd/4th time, draw a line and blow up. I believe the ball would need to be in play, but that shouldnt cause a major issue, as the wrestling always continues. |  |
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| Four minutes of madness – Report on 08:18 - Jan 26 with 2360 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 07:32 - Jan 26 by Lblock |
Huge test for the Frenchman and the club now.
A traditional QPR death spiral this season would not be acceptable in any way shape or form.
My opinion is the club has been totally mismanaged all season but nothing unusual there.
We’ve found ourselves on the cusp of the play offs purely by accident and didn’t have a clue what to do and are too much of a mess on and off the pitch to capitalise.
Seeing Millwall and PNE up there is particularly galling
Let’s see if they can get back on the tracks or if JS will be waving the second flag of his home nation in upcoming games |
Hull are under a transfer embargo ffs. | | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 08:24 - Jan 26 with 2339 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Hayden, Field, Dunne, RND and Cook. All on the pitch and not one took control or showed a slither of leadership to the youngsters. Where was the bloke putting his hand up or stepping forward?
These guys were given contract extensions or signed for moments like Saturday and they didn't do it.
Well, three of them at least will be gone in the summer anyway.
The plus point was in 40 years this one was a new way for me to be QPR'd. One to tick off the list. | |
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| Four minutes of madness – Report on 08:25 - Jan 26 with 2329 views | Rsole |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 08:18 - Jan 26 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Hull are under a transfer embargo ffs. |
Is Mbargo as mad as Mbengue ? |  |
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| Four minutes of madness – Report on 08:37 - Jan 26 with 2256 views | colinallcars |
Tremendous shot by Ollie Rathbone-if his brother Basil had been playing, things could have been even worse. |  | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 08:58 - Jan 26 with 2132 views | Dorse |
For me, the most irritating thing about Saturday's fun for all the family / shit-the-bed-fest was that we looked more than half decent for long periods of the game. If we'd been as streaky as a daredevil's underpants, then losing at the death would still be awful but, at least, it would have been understandable.
In response to the 'ten fcks and five cnts' statement in Clive's piece, I propose that this should now become the official measurement by which game / result shitness should be judged. For example: 7-1 vs Coventry is at least a Category 10F/5C, whereas the 0-0 vs Oxford is roughly a 2F/0C. Any game, past or present, involving John Terry is a ?F/650C. You get the idea. |  |
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| Four minutes of madness – Report on 09:17 - Jan 26 with 2009 views | FDC |
I really resonated with Clive's description of people staring blankly at the pitch at FT, someone had also posted about it on the message board. It's more than just disbelief I think, it's processing the terrible meaning of what's just unfolded. I was only watching on the stream, so didn't even have to deal with the full force of it in my face. Mind you, i watched a funeral of a friend via a stream last year because I was overseas, and then the stream ended and i was on my own, when all i wanted was to go and have a cry in the pub with my mates. But anyway.
This is daft and overblown I know (it's never stopped me before) but there's a genuine trauma response to stuff like the injury time fiasco on Saturday. It kind of confirms and validates the internalized fears and beliefs that there is just something wrong with this stupid club - The Curse ((c) Bruce).
All supporters of every club think theirs has perfected the art of ruining their life, but we know that the awful truth is that no other club is as bewitched by farce and humiliation as ours.
Someone should actually do some kind of analysis to see where on the frequency distribution of inexplicable implosions QPR sit - I'd love to see it - but it doesn't have any bearing on the reality of the trauma because trauma doesn't deal in statistics, and the trauma is real. |  | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 09:21 - Jan 26 with 1979 views | stevec |
Only just watched it back and didn’t realise at the game what a terrible error the keeper made for their equaliser.
Puts a different perspective on it now. At any level you can’t be flapping at that sort of cross. |  | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 09:31 - Jan 26 with 1938 views | francisbowles |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 06:54 - Jan 26 by Philothesuperhoop |
Great report, thanks Clive
A couple of thoughts, one of which I intended to mention to you in the boozer, but forgot; it hasn’t really been commented on that the style of football JS has us playing doesn’t help with the injuries or the apparent lack of fitness. We always have less possession than the oppo, which means by definition we spend more time chasing around after the ball. We are therefore bound to look more knackered at the end, even if we were equally fit, which I don’t think we are. Plus that style of play must contribute to soft tissue injuries.
Onto Mbengue, is there a chance that he was trying to get sent off? It was so stupid, it does make you wonder. He knew he was on a two game ban for his 10th yellow - did he assume that would be trumped by a red card one game ban?! |
Good theory on the style v injuries and fitness scenario. Some truth in that for me.
I think they may need a longer preseason to build up stamina, if we are going to continue with that methodology.
On Mbengue, he's just a quick and very aggressive player who gets stuck into every challenge.
Take that aggression away and he would be ineffective. I really like him but we need to get an expert in football psychology or something to attempt to teach him some game management and control. His disciplinary record seems to have made him an easy target for referees.
Sadly, before yesterday he had been doing better as he hadn't had a league yellow card, for a tackle, since Sheffield United on the 8th November. Incidentally, that was the first time he'd played right back. | | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 09:32 - Jan 26 with 1931 views | thehat |
Thanks Clive - Captured the emotions of the four minute disaster perfectly.
The last minute winner away at Coventry last season stayed with me for while this one may linger even longer.
I keep telling myself to look at the bigger picture - Not in a relegation scrap, club moving in the right direction etc but those moments still take the wind out of your sail.
A real shame as I thought we played really well. | | | |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 09:33 - Jan 26 with 1925 views | TheChef |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 04:37 - Jan 26 by CLAREMAN1995 |
Dont think for 1 second this sickening collapse wont burn these players and managment knowing we were a few minutes away from 3 points now the QPR world is on fire.
A full week to get it out of their system and hopefully a body or 2 back from injury they could actually beat Coventry IMO.
Not real Madrid or Barca just a good team with good strikers we can handle that . |
Cheers Clive. Great game for the neutral...and at least we did our bit for more exposure on the TV show. 
Of course the result was bloody annoying. But looking back it's one game out of 46, as mentioned before we're not consistently good enough to bother the top ten (or top half?) of the table, so I don't think it's massively going to affect where we end up come May. Hint - it's probably 16th.
I'll try and focus on the positives from the first half; it was great having Vale start, Madsen was very good throughout, Morgan's energy was a definite bonus (just needs to improve with the ball). Hell even Dembele did alright for once.
Coventry next. Assuming that Dunne will go to RB and we can only hope Edwards is fit enough to start with Cook. |  |
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| Four minutes of madness – Report on 09:34 - Jan 26 with 1919 views | mart_Goblin |
| Four minutes of madness – Report on 09:21 - Jan 26 by stevec |
Only just watched it back and didn’t realise at the game what a terrible error the keeper made for their equaliser.
Puts a different perspective on it now. At any level you can’t be flapping at that sort of cross. |
Yes likewise Steve. I didn’t realise until I caught a clip of it in the Forever R’s bar afterwards .
Really poor.
However the few left in the bar were all blaming him for the 3rd goal much more .
I take slight issue with that . I think he needs to move his feet quicker for sure . But sometimes a goal keeper is just beaten by pure pace . And I think we should be looking at the 3 or 4 hooped shirts standing off of Rathbone and not stopping that source before we look at Walsh .
Once again only my opinion as I know others disagree . | | | |
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