| Field to Norwich 16:41 - Feb 2 with 12934 views | stevenagehoop |
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| Field to Norwich on 22:22 - Feb 2 with 1922 views | daveinmelbourne |
He’s been a terrific player for us however I do feel he struggles with what Stephan wants from this side, ie turning and attacking quickly. I’ve just noticed on Twitter/X (so it could be utter nonsense) a a Rhys Walters from Port Vale is having a medical with us? Young dynamic defensive midfielder? |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 22:24 - Feb 2 with 1906 views | A40Bosh |
| Field to Norwich on 21:58 - Feb 2 by daveB |
I'm sure given the choice of you are not wanted here and a chance to play football he was very happy to go but I'm not really sure thats the best thing for QPR at the moment |
I think ‘not wanted’ is maybe a bit unfair.
He has made 19 appearances this season and as far as I can remember he has not been left out of the squad on a match day unless injured.
Fairer to say has dropped down the pecking order this season and used as 3rd or 4th starting choice but can be relied upon to fill in.
If he feels he cannot fight his way past a fit Hayden or Varane probably feels he will have to move on to find regular first team starts. It will be interesting to see how he gets on with Norwich.
Wish him the very best and still welcome to marry one of my daughters- the right sort. |  |
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| Field to Norwich on 22:25 - Feb 2 with 1876 views | mart_Goblin |
| Field to Norwich on 22:21 - Feb 2 by Ned_Kennedys |
Most of us would’ve been happy with him in the squad but I can’t remember a clamour of people wanting him to play every week. Stéphan rates Varane and Hayden ahead of him plus we have Morgan and Edwards as cover.
Field has clearly stated he wants to play as much as possible which we cannot offer so it seems respectful to a decent servant of the club to give him that opportunity at a team who are not our rivals this season. Would expect Norwich are paying his wages in full and hopefully we’ve got a loan fee as well.
The deal makes sense to me. |
Fair points .
I can see us pushing Alemayehu into the team towards the back end of the season too |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 22:26 - Feb 2 with 1849 views | stevec |
Sounds like the loan is tied directly into Norwich buying Field in the summer, probably an FFP thing.
Done us proud for four years, good luck to him. |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 22:30 - Feb 2 with 1755 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Field to Norwich on 22:26 - Feb 2 by stevec |
Sounds like the loan is tied directly into Norwich buying Field in the summer, probably an FFP thing.
Done us proud for four years, good luck to him. |
On this note, Steve, WLS have now edited their article saying there's no clause obliging them to buy. |  |
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| Field to Norwich on 22:34 - Feb 2 with 1704 views | daveB |
| Field to Norwich on 22:21 - Feb 2 by Ned_Kennedys |
Most of us would’ve been happy with him in the squad but I can’t remember a clamour of people wanting him to play every week. Stéphan rates Varane and Hayden ahead of him plus we have Morgan and Edwards as cover.
Field has clearly stated he wants to play as much as possible which we cannot offer so it seems respectful to a decent servant of the club to give him that opportunity at a team who are not our rivals this season. Would expect Norwich are paying his wages in full and hopefully we’ve got a loan fee as well.
The deal makes sense to me. |
We're one injury away from it being a daft decsion though. I can see why they've done it but as I said for me I'd have loaned out Morgan and kept Field for now. |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 22:45 - Feb 2 with 1580 views | rbee |
I wonder if there is an option to recall him?
Mr Sam Field, Captain, Player Of the Year and shot stopper extraordinaire West London is going to miss you. Wishing you all the best for the remainder of the season. |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 22:45 - Feb 2 with 1577 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Field to Norwich on 22:30 - Feb 2 by BrianMcCarthy |
On this note, Steve, WLS have now edited their article saying there's no clause obliging them to buy. |
Which is interesting seeing as Derby had made a bid to buy Field, but he decided to go to Norwich on loan. That implies the bid from Derby was accepted but QPR left it to Field as to what he wanted to do.
Think the club have done alright by him as they could have blocked the loan, but he'll be sold in the summer anyway. | |
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| Field to Norwich on 22:49 - Feb 2 with 1550 views | ozexile |
He's been a fantastic player for us. All the very best to him. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 22:50 - Feb 2 with 1534 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Field to Norwich on 22:45 - Feb 2 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Which is interesting seeing as Derby had made a bid to buy Field, but he decided to go to Norwich on loan. That implies the bid from Derby was accepted but QPR left it to Field as to what he wanted to do.
Think the club have done alright by him as they could have blocked the loan, but he'll be sold in the summer anyway. |
Or that Derby's bid was just too low? | |
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| Field to Norwich on 23:04 - Feb 2 with 1413 views | Myke |
| Field to Norwich on 22:50 - Feb 2 by BrianMcCarthy |
Or that Derby's bid was just too low? |
I actually think Saturday’s result has impacted on this decision. Just as the 7-1 hammering brought in a plethora of players, so too perhaps the positivity around the 2-1 win, allows them to slip one of our ‘favourite players’ out the door without too much fuss.
Really disappointed by this. I feel he could have played a lot more this season. Varane has rarely hit the heights this season and with Field in midfield we would have been a lot less open in some games. Anyway wish him all the best - a proper pro. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 23:07 - Feb 2 with 1391 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Field to Norwich on 22:34 - Feb 2 by daveB |
We're one injury away from it being a daft decsion though. I can see why they've done it but as I said for me I'd have loaned out Morgan and kept Field for now. |
Perhaps no decent loan offers came in for Morgan.
We have cover for central midfield if necessary: we have a stronger squad nowadays and we can’t justify stacking and racking players just in case. |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 23:11 - Feb 2 with 1370 views | mylot50years |
It's quite possible with the type of injuries we are dealing with at present when they eventually return the possibility of breaking down again are high
With that in mind this is a very risky and poor decision and hopefully does not come back to bite us in the arse | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 23:18 - Feb 2 with 1327 views | baz_qpr |
| Field to Norwich on 23:07 - Feb 2 by Ned_Kennedys |
Perhaps no decent loan offers came in for Morgan.
We have cover for central midfield if necessary: we have a stronger squad nowadays and we can’t justify stacking and racking players just in case. |
We turned down Luton for Morgan loan, Stephen said at the beginning of the window there were a couple of players who were looking for moves because they wanted more minutes. Good luck to Sam I'm not sure he will get many more at Norwich though |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 23:20 - Feb 2 with 1312 views | daveB |
| Field to Norwich on 22:24 - Feb 2 by A40Bosh |
I think ‘not wanted’ is maybe a bit unfair.
He has made 19 appearances this season and as far as I can remember he has not been left out of the squad on a match day unless injured.
Fairer to say has dropped down the pecking order this season and used as 3rd or 4th starting choice but can be relied upon to fill in.
If he feels he cannot fight his way past a fit Hayden or Varane probably feels he will have to move on to find regular first team starts. It will be interesting to see how he gets on with Norwich.
Wish him the very best and still welcome to marry one of my daughters- the right sort. |
The club told him to find a new club last August so I don't think he is wanted, whether thats the manager not fancying him or something else I don't know. He's looked very downbeat at the end of games all season, on the fringes of it all rather than how he has looked in previous seasons.
He was poor in pre season and the first few games so the manager may well have had a look and said he's not for me which can happen. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 00:13 - Feb 3 with 1104 views | simmo |
| Field to Norwich on 19:51 - Feb 2 by Hunterhoop |
£6m of player sales a year to net out on what we have already spent an amortised. More if we want to continue to spend over the next couple of seasons.
I think it’s a real shame to let Field go.
Fantastic servant to the club. Kept the club afloat during that disastrous Beale-Critchley-Ainsworth season when every around him was sitting down lame. Burnley away winner kept us up.
The season and a half before, he was a big part of that play off push and phenomenal calendar year we had under Warburton.
Then he was at the heart of the Cifuentes side that miraculously stayed up. Important goals in the run in against WBA (2), Leeds and Plymouth. Started the last 10 games.
Always available. Always worked hard. Never hid. Never stopped running. And some of the best performances over the prior 4 seasons were with him at the core of the side, somewhat undermining the idea we couldn’t play good football with him in the side. Warburton and Cifuentes managed it.
Overall though, I just don’t like seeing characters like his leave the dressing room. Cook will almost certainly leave at the end of the season too. Losing both worries me.
And assuming we will only get a couple of million for him, we’re still going to need to sell. Varane for 4-5m seems the obvious candidate. Perhaps we might get an offer for Madsen we can’t turn down.
But if either went, with Hayden turning 32, I think, we’ll need to sign another two central midfielders. Good ones cost. No guarantees we sign well or that they don’t need a whole season to bed in. Keeping Field would have made that transition much easier.
I think it’s the wrong decision strategically and culturally, and doesn’t solve the financial requirements.
All that said, if it’s done, it’s done. Good luck to him. Should always get a good reception back at LR. Players’ Player of the Year, Fans’ Player of the Year (different seasons). A really good servant. But we move on. [Post edited 2 Feb 22:37]
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Great post, mate.
Part of me hopes this is him pushing for playing time and us letting that happen, but the truth feels more like a one-sided club decision, and on that basis I can't say I agree with it.
As Hunter says, he's been at the heart of so much good - and stood up to be counted even more when those around him were tossing off performances, calling in sick, and generally standing by while the team was sinking.
I said it a few times... Beware hubris... The Fields in this division are the sharp sand in the cement, the joists under the nice wooden flooring. When things start to go against you it's these kind of players that keep you upright... Let's hope this isn't one we come to regret. [Post edited 3 Feb 0:17]
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| Field to Norwich on 00:28 - Feb 3 with 1034 views | QPR_Pro_Max |
| Field to Norwich on 21:38 - Feb 2 by QPR_John |
Never given a chance by this manager. |
Because the manager has better options. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 00:35 - Feb 3 with 1012 views | nix |
I love Sam and I’d ideally want the Sam of the last couple of seasons playing for us. However he’s not a bench player. He’s wholehearted and passionate. He deserves to play. For whatever reasons it clearly isn’t happening for him this season. He certainly didn’t start well and maybe doesn’t fit in the system. Like Rob Dickie a couple of seasons ago sometimes it’s better for a player to move on however much the fans like him and however well he started with the club. I think that might also be the case with Sam.
If we get some money for him that might be good for club and player. |  | | |
| Field to Norwich on 00:43 - Feb 3 with 991 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Field to Norwich on 00:13 - Feb 3 by simmo |
Great post, mate.
Part of me hopes this is him pushing for playing time and us letting that happen, but the truth feels more like a one-sided club decision, and on that basis I can't say I agree with it.
As Hunter says, he's been at the heart of so much good - and stood up to be counted even more when those around him were tossing off performances, calling in sick, and generally standing by while the team was sinking.
I said it a few times... Beware hubris... The Fields in this division are the sharp sand in the cement, the joists under the nice wooden flooring. When things start to go against you it's these kind of players that keep you upright... Let's hope this isn't one we come to regret. [Post edited 3 Feb 0:17]
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Would you have given Field what he clearly and justifiably wanted and has stated in his interview with Norwich: to play regularly? Cannot recall anyone having a major problem with Varane or Hayden being preferred as our DM.
Not sure why virtually every decision needs to be seen as a possible negative on the club. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 01:36 - Feb 3 with 896 views | simmo |
| Field to Norwich on 00:43 - Feb 3 by Ned_Kennedys |
Would you have given Field what he clearly and justifiably wanted and has stated in his interview with Norwich: to play regularly? Cannot recall anyone having a major problem with Varane or Hayden being preferred as our DM.
Not sure why virtually every decision needs to be seen as a possible negative on the club. |
So because he doesn't start in our best 11 I should be fine that he's going? He's also one RND injury away from being in my starting 11 btw.
As I said, if it's about giving him game time that he requested and deserves that's fair enough, otherwise I think it's a risk to allow characters like Field to leave your squad. Reliable, covers multiple positions, consummate pro, experienced, commited, etc. He's never given anything less than 100% for every minute he's ever played and I personally think players like that are undervalued, especially in this league, although seemingly not by multiple other clubs.
Every decision is not a possible negative, it's my opinion based on my feeling on the player. Frey went too, I happened to think that was a complete positive. Do you see how nuance works? | |
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| Field to Norwich on 01:37 - Feb 3 with 897 views | Match82 |
| Field to Norwich on 00:43 - Feb 3 by Ned_Kennedys |
Would you have given Field what he clearly and justifiably wanted and has stated in his interview with Norwich: to play regularly? Cannot recall anyone having a major problem with Varane or Hayden being preferred as our DM.
Not sure why virtually every decision needs to be seen as a possible negative on the club. |
I'd have Field ahead of Varane or Hayden personally, appreciate others may differ from this opinion [Post edited 3 Feb 1:37]
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| Field to Norwich on 02:32 - Feb 3 with 836 views | VancouverHoop |
It's tough. I guess there's no premium on club loyalty these days. Nevertheless Field is three years younger, and more versatile, than Hayden. Which, you'd think, ought to be a plus. Certainly, on both counts, he's more so than Varanne who, AFAICS, still has to prove he can make it at this level. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 02:45 - Feb 3 with 823 views | EuroRanger |
From the BBC article on the subject:
""I'm desperate to play football. The first half of the year hasn't gone the way I'd like it to and Norwich expressed an interest. It was an opportunity that sounded perfect for me," said Field, who has also played for West Brom and Charlton."
Sounds like maybe the club allowed him to move? I know the ITK's have been talking about him moving since the summer, mind. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 02:57 - Feb 3 with 788 views | Blue_Castello |
| Field to Norwich on 01:36 - Feb 3 by simmo |
So because he doesn't start in our best 11 I should be fine that he's going? He's also one RND injury away from being in my starting 11 btw.
As I said, if it's about giving him game time that he requested and deserves that's fair enough, otherwise I think it's a risk to allow characters like Field to leave your squad. Reliable, covers multiple positions, consummate pro, experienced, commited, etc. He's never given anything less than 100% for every minute he's ever played and I personally think players like that are undervalued, especially in this league, although seemingly not by multiple other clubs.
Every decision is not a possible negative, it's my opinion based on my feeling on the player. Frey went too, I happened to think that was a complete positive. Do you see how nuance works? |
Agreed he's not been given a chance by Stephan, everything I've seen from the stands this year makes me think he's a better player than Varane, we've seen his quality over the years we know what he brings to the side, he has his limitations but then Varane definitely does as well.
I always thought Varane was being selected as first choice to raise his profile, aid his development and put him in the shop window, if we want to get a decent transfer fee for him then that won't happen if he's always on the bench.
Varane is younger than Sam so can potentially generate a higher transfer fee, we need to generate some decent income and Varane has the potential for that although these mythical transfer bids have never materialised.
It's a real shame Sam's going but he wants to play regularly or at the least be in contention for the starting eleven, it could well be that Norwich showed some interest and that Sam was keen to take the opportunity as he knows he's not in contention with Stephan to start games.
If the club think we have a chance at the play offs then we should have kept him but again it's down to what Sam wants to do, it's no good an unhappy player within the squad, it's only a loan with no obligation to buy, people saying he could never play for us again now, I tend to disagree Field comes across as a person who will give 100% wherever he is playing, good luck Sam and Thanks. | | | |
| Field to Norwich on 03:48 - Feb 3 with 737 views | derbyhoop |
Given what he said on the BBC site, it sounds like it was down to him as much as the club.
From a commercial POV, it does make sense. He'll.be 28 in May, he's probably a little bit beyond his peak transfer value, which is only going to fall. Although its disappointing that Norwich don't have an option to buy, there seems to be plenty of suitors for a perm deal in the Summer.
The downsides are availability; that he accepts the responsibility of being 1 of the.more senior players in the squad; and his flexibility. He can play LB, DCM and even left sided CB.
Sadly, if QPR want/need to run a trading model, you do have to trade. |  |
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